whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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Assassin said:

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whiterock said:

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Porteroso said:

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Tariff revenue seemingly plateaued. $27.9bn for December, down from the low 30s.

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One month doesn't mean much. Look at the trend line. (which should track with GDP).

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Also Trump relaxed some of the tariffs. That probably had a bit to do with it

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….and, of course, the better the trade balance gets, the harder it will be to sustain tariff revenue.

Every time production is moved here to make previously imported goods, the tariff revenue on those goods is lost.

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Well, we also have policies working against each other. Alienating our trading partners is not helping and not going to make it better.
LOL we haven't alienated them. We've signed massive trade deals with them.
This Greenland crap has the EU moving closed to China and other markets. Canada has inked new deals with China. As well as stronger deals in Africa and Asia.
Posturing by a Liberal government desperately trying to look strong when it is weak. Canada is not going to become a Chinese ally. It's going to elect a Conservative government who will be quite a bit more cooperative.

"Economists expect China to continue gaining global market share this year, helped by Chinese firms setting up overseas production hubs that provide lower-tariff access to the United States and the European Union, as well as by strong demand for lower-grade chips and other electronics."

China's trade ends 2025 with record $1.2 trillion surplus despite Trump tariff jolt | Reuters

All TDS aside, we have to be careful here as a Nation. Too much too soon, we are creating what we feared. You have a stronger world share China, the EU stating it is going independent, and our traditional domestic partners looking toward China.

Are we going to conquer them all? Is that the plan?

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but the piece' de resistance is your reference to China's record $1.2T trade surplus. That's China's overall trade balance. It's deficit with the USA was down by 28%. (huge success).

All our trade partners are investing trillions of dollars abroad. Mostly in the USA. Almost none of it in China.

Again, we see you crafting a worldview to satisfy your emotions rather than reality.

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I am not crafting anything, that is why I put a source article.
And it did not say what your post clamed.

I also know human nature, you cannot keep beating people up, telling them they have no choice and threatening without them looking for an alternative. It may take time, but it will happen. Every time. But, that is something bullies never seem to get.
Uh, no. Their feelings are going to conform to reality: They're going to make money and be happy because they are allied with the strongest, wealthiest country in the world.

By the way, the trade deficit is down now. We caught the world by surprise, so they had no choice but to sign initial deals. That will not hold.
So a US trade deficit is now the natural order of things?
We have no hope of ever having a trade surplus?

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You are too sensitive to be playing this game.

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Game? I am not in the game. I am not part of the Trade delegation or on any international committees. I don't have a dog in the fight. My career is pretty much on the downstroke. What I am seeing is disturbing. It bothers me that people like you pick on or two metrics to benchmark and believe that is the whole picture. Also, there is gut feelings. My gut tells me we are sacrificing the forest for several trees with the whole picture.
LOL "cherry picking" metrics is a rather ironic statement.

Read the Brookings report. Don't just say Brookings doesn't count on this...

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Brookings is a Democrat think tank sprinkled with a small number of centrist Republicans, a center-left idea machine arguing for neoConservative and Globalist policies. Some would add it's the brainiac portion of "the swamp." It is philosophically opposed to everything Trump is doing. As are you. So it's no surprise you find their ideas compelling.

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Of course it is. They don't agree with you, so it must be a flawed or biased analysis.

Assassin said:

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Bessent - very unlikely Supreme Court will overturn tariffs

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They found a way to let Obamacare stand, despite obvious and ample grounds to overturn it.

There is an easy way for them to justify letting the tariffs stand, by simply defining them as negotiated rather than imposed. That puts them squarely in Article II territory.

Trump did unilaterally impose tariffs, claiming existing statutory authority. Regardless whether or not that statutory authority was properly exercised, the issue is now moot - our trade partners did negotiate and sign formal agreements to make investments and pay reduced tariffs. So, technically, they negotiated for a tariff in lieu of other restrictions on their access to our markets. THAT is a clear Article II action. Key is: is it unconstitutional for negotiations to touch the issue of tariffs (eliminating, temporarily waiving or imposing them) at all. I.E. does it violate the Constitution if if allies offer or agree to pay a tariff? I think not.

If SCOTUS lets the trade agreements stand, I think we will see that kind of rationale.

If they let them stand, it will be because Congress has the authority to override them at any time. Not because they were improper but then made proper through negotiation.

FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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Assassin said:

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whiterock said:

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Porteroso said:

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Tariff revenue seemingly plateaued. $27.9bn for December, down from the low 30s.

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One month doesn't mean much. Look at the trend line. (which should track with GDP).

---

Also Trump relaxed some of the tariffs. That probably had a bit to do with it

---

….and, of course, the better the trade balance gets, the harder it will be to sustain tariff revenue.

Every time production is moved here to make previously imported goods, the tariff revenue on those goods is lost.

---

Well, we also have policies working against each other. Alienating our trading partners is not helping and not going to make it better.
LOL we haven't alienated them. We've signed massive trade deals with them.
This Greenland crap has the EU moving closed to China and other markets. Canada has inked new deals with China. As well as stronger deals in Africa and Asia.
Posturing by a Liberal government desperately trying to look strong when it is weak. Canada is not going to become a Chinese ally. It's going to elect a Conservative government who will be quite a bit more cooperative.

"Economists expect China to continue gaining global market share this year, helped by Chinese firms setting up overseas production hubs that provide lower-tariff access to the United States and the European Union, as well as by strong demand for lower-grade chips and other electronics."

China's trade ends 2025 with record $1.2 trillion surplus despite Trump tariff jolt | Reuters

All TDS aside, we have to be careful here as a Nation. Too much too soon, we are creating what we feared. You have a stronger world share China, the EU stating it is going independent, and our traditional domestic partners looking toward China.

Are we going to conquer them all? Is that the plan?

---

but the piece' de resistance is your reference to China's record $1.2T trade surplus. That's China's overall trade balance. It's deficit with the USA was down by 28%. (huge success).

All our trade partners are investing trillions of dollars abroad. Mostly in the USA. Almost none of it in China.

Again, we see you crafting a worldview to satisfy your emotions rather than reality.

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I am not crafting anything, that is why I put a source article.
And it did not say what your post clamed.

I also know human nature, you cannot keep beating people up, telling them they have no choice and threatening without them looking for an alternative. It may take time, but it will happen. Every time. But, that is something bullies never seem to get.
Uh, no. Their feelings are going to conform to reality: They're going to make money and be happy because they are allied with the strongest, wealthiest country in the world.

By the way, the trade deficit is down now. We caught the world by surprise, so they had no choice but to sign initial deals. That will not hold.
So a US trade deficit is now the natural order of things?
We have no hope of ever having a trade surplus?

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You are too sensitive to be playing this game.

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Game? I am not in the game. I am not part of the Trade delegation or on any international committees. I don't have a dog in the fight. My career is pretty much on the downstroke. What I am seeing is disturbing. It bothers me that people like you pick on or two metrics to benchmark and believe that is the whole picture. Also, there is gut feelings. My gut tells me we are sacrificing the forest for several trees with the whole picture.
LOL "cherry picking" metrics is a rather ironic statement.

Read the Brookings report. Don't just say Brookings doesn't count on this...

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Brookings is a Democrat think tank sprinkled with a small number of centrist Republicans, a center-left idea machine arguing for neoConservative and Globalist policies. Some would add it's the brainiac portion of "the swamp." It is philosophically opposed to everything Trump is doing. As are you. So it's no surprise you find their ideas compelling.

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Of course it is. They don't agree with you, so it must be a flawed or biased analysis.

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Didn't say that. Noted reality exactly. You never see Manhattan Institute small government arguments from Brookings. Oh no. It's always an advocate of activist government. And its no surprise, either. Just look at the roster of past Chairmen. Mostly Democrat appointees. Some GOP appointees. All of them patently creatures of the clerisy (FOMC, Council of Foreign Relations, endowed professorships, etc....). That was the establishment structure of my day. It served us well at the time. But all institutional cycles come to an end - they solve the problems they were created to solve but become increasingly less effective over time, eventually requiring the creation of new institutions to better address modern problems which are unresponsive to the old policies. That's where we are at this point in time. The policy regime Brookings helped build and run is at an end. A new one is being formed. And it is past time such occurs.

The dynamic I'm talking about is not at all radical. George Friedman, himself a swamp creature for his entire career, writes about it in his excellent book "The Storm Before the Calm" in which he describes "institutional cycles" pretty much as I alluded to above. We happen to be at the end of the globalist cycle. That doesn't mean globalism was bad. Quite the opposite. It was very successful. Then. Not so much now. New policy regimes must be built And they are. What we see here from you (emotionally) and from ATL (logically) is a defense of the old policy regime. an old policy regime headed for the scrap heap. Those whose worldview were formed by the old regime see what Trump is doing as irrational and destructive, an attack on the only reality they can understand. They see no need for the kind of transformation underway, and cannot envision a scenario that the changes they see happening might actually be better than the status quo.

whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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Assassin said:

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whiterock said:

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Porteroso said:

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Tariff revenue seemingly plateaued. $27.9bn for December, down from the low 30s.

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One month doesn't mean much. Look at the trend line. (which should track with GDP).

---

Also Trump relaxed some of the tariffs. That probably had a bit to do with it

---

….and, of course, the better the trade balance gets, the harder it will be to sustain tariff revenue.

Every time production is moved here to make previously imported goods, the tariff revenue on those goods is lost.

---

Well, we also have policies working against each other. Alienating our trading partners is not helping and not going to make it better.
LOL we haven't alienated them. We've signed massive trade deals with them.
This Greenland crap has the EU moving closed to China and other markets. Canada has inked new deals with China. As well as stronger deals in Africa and Asia.
Posturing by a Liberal government desperately trying to look strong when it is weak. Canada is not going to become a Chinese ally. It's going to elect a Conservative government who will be quite a bit more cooperative.

"Economists expect China to continue gaining global market share this year, helped by Chinese firms setting up overseas production hubs that provide lower-tariff access to the United States and the European Union, as well as by strong demand for lower-grade chips and other electronics."

China's trade ends 2025 with record $1.2 trillion surplus despite Trump tariff jolt | Reuters

All TDS aside, we have to be careful here as a Nation. Too much too soon, we are creating what we feared. You have a stronger world share China, the EU stating it is going independent, and our traditional domestic partners looking toward China.

Are we going to conquer them all? Is that the plan?

---

but the piece' de resistance is your reference to China's record $1.2T trade surplus. That's China's overall trade balance. It's deficit with the USA was down by 28%. (huge success).

All our trade partners are investing trillions of dollars abroad. Mostly in the USA. Almost none of it in China.

Again, we see you crafting a worldview to satisfy your emotions rather than reality.

---

I am not crafting anything, that is why I put a source article.
And it did not say what your post clamed.

I also know human nature, you cannot keep beating people up, telling them they have no choice and threatening without them looking for an alternative. It may take time, but it will happen. Every time. But, that is something bullies never seem to get.
Uh, no. Their feelings are going to conform to reality: They're going to make money and be happy because they are allied with the strongest, wealthiest country in the world.

By the way, the trade deficit is down now. We caught the world by surprise, so they had no choice but to sign initial deals. That will not hold.
So a US trade deficit is now the natural order of things?
We have no hope of ever having a trade surplus?

---

You are too sensitive to be playing this game.

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Game? I am not in the game. I am not part of the Trade delegation or on any international committees. I don't have a dog in the fight. My career is pretty much on the downstroke. What I am seeing is disturbing. It bothers me that people like you pick on or two metrics to benchmark and believe that is the whole picture. Also, there is gut feelings. My gut tells me we are sacrificing the forest for several trees with the whole picture.
LOL "cherry picking" metrics is a rather ironic statement.

Read the Brookings report. Don't just say Brookings doesn't count on this...

---

Brookings is a Democrat think tank sprinkled with a small number of centrist Republicans, a center-left idea machine arguing for neoConservative and Globalist policies. Some would add it's the brainiac portion of "the swamp." It is philosophically opposed to everything Trump is doing. As are you. So it's no surprise you find their ideas compelling.

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Of course it is. They don't agree with you, so it must be a flawed or biased analysis.

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Didn't say that. Noted reality exactly. You never see Manhattan Institute small government arguments from Brookings. Oh no. It's always an advocate of activist government. And its no surprise, either. Just look at the roster of past Chairmen. Mostly Democrat appointees. Some GOP appointees. All of them patently creatures of the clerisy (FOMC, Council of Foreign Relations, endowed professorships, etc....). That was the establishment structure of my day. It served us well at the time. But all institutional cycles come to an end - they solve the problems they were created to solve but become increasingly less effective over time, eventually requiring the creation of new institutions to better address modern problems which are unresponsive to the old policies. That's where we are at this point in time. The policy regime Brookings helped build and run is at an end. A new one is being formed. And it is past time such occurs.

The dynamic I'm talking about is not at all radical. George Friedman, himself a swamp creature for his entire career, writes about it in his excellent book "The Storm Before the Calm" in which he describes "institutional cycles" pretty much as I alluded to above. We happen to be at the end of the globalist cycle. That doesn't mean globalism was bad. Quite the opposite. It was very successful. Then. Not so much now. New policy regimes must be built And they are. What we see here from you (emotionally) and from ATL (logically) is a defense of the old policy regime. an old policy regime headed for the scrap heap. Those whose worldview were formed by the old regime see what Trump is doing as irrational and destructive, an attack on the only reality they can understand. They see no need for the kind of transformation underway, and cannot envision a scenario that the changes they see happening might actually be better than the status quo.

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The disruption is not being balanced, it is in all directions, all the time. I get the rationale, he has to do it before he is stopped. But their is only so much a system can take being disrupted before it shuts down.

On top of that we are coming off the Biden fiasco, so not only are we disrupting everything at once under Trump, it is a whiplash effect from the Biden idiocy with the Green New Deal and the Energy disruption.

I get it, no one is more about paradigm shifts than I am. I have spent my entire career on paradigm shifts. I love looking for that next shift. But, we are creating too much shifting in too many directions at once. This latest issue with Greenland is not needed while we are doing tariffs, ICE, border, Venezuela, DOGE, and what else???

Upsetting the apple cart in foreign policy and domestic is a dangerous game with China looming. By the way, Google "Tidalwave". THAT is something I would really like yours, Nein, and Atl Bear's view on. We have a problem there and I hope it is being addressed, not just redacted...

Trump speaks in Davos about how he was thinking when he put 39% tariffs on Switzerland.

He says that the President of Switzerland Karin Keller-Sutter really "rubbed him the wrong way" pic.twitter.com/xuCkJG6ssE

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) January 21, 2026

Yup. I’m a Reagan Republican who knows tariffs are a tax on American consumers. Article One in the Constitution gives this authority to Congress and we need to reclaim it. https://t.co/caUtJfMFN8

— Rep. Don Bacon 🇺🇸✈️🏍️⭐️🎖️ (@RepDonBacon) January 21, 2026

FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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Assassin said:

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whiterock said:

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Porteroso said:

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Tariff revenue seemingly plateaued. $27.9bn for December, down from the low 30s.

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One month doesn't mean much. Look at the trend line. (which should track with GDP).

---

Also Trump relaxed some of the tariffs. That probably had a bit to do with it

---

….and, of course, the better the trade balance gets, the harder it will be to sustain tariff revenue.

Every time production is moved here to make previously imported goods, the tariff revenue on those goods is lost.

---

Well, we also have policies working against each other. Alienating our trading partners is not helping and not going to make it better.
LOL we haven't alienated them. We've signed massive trade deals with them.
This Greenland crap has the EU moving closed to China and other markets. Canada has inked new deals with China. As well as stronger deals in Africa and Asia.
Posturing by a Liberal government desperately trying to look strong when it is weak. Canada is not going to become a Chinese ally. It's going to elect a Conservative government who will be quite a bit more cooperative.

"Economists expect China to continue gaining global market share this year, helped by Chinese firms setting up overseas production hubs that provide lower-tariff access to the United States and the European Union, as well as by strong demand for lower-grade chips and other electronics."

China's trade ends 2025 with record $1.2 trillion surplus despite Trump tariff jolt | Reuters

All TDS aside, we have to be careful here as a Nation. Too much too soon, we are creating what we feared. You have a stronger world share China, the EU stating it is going independent, and our traditional domestic partners looking toward China.

Are we going to conquer them all? Is that the plan?

---

but the piece' de resistance is your reference to China's record $1.2T trade surplus. That's China's overall trade balance. It's deficit with the USA was down by 28%. (huge success).

All our trade partners are investing trillions of dollars abroad. Mostly in the USA. Almost none of it in China.

Again, we see you crafting a worldview to satisfy your emotions rather than reality.

---

I am not crafting anything, that is why I put a source article.
And it did not say what your post clamed.

I also know human nature, you cannot keep beating people up, telling them they have no choice and threatening without them looking for an alternative. It may take time, but it will happen. Every time. But, that is something bullies never seem to get.
Uh, no. Their feelings are going to conform to reality: They're going to make money and be happy because they are allied with the strongest, wealthiest country in the world.

By the way, the trade deficit is down now. We caught the world by surprise, so they had no choice but to sign initial deals. That will not hold.
So a US trade deficit is now the natural order of things?
We have no hope of ever having a trade surplus?

---

You are too sensitive to be playing this game.

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Game? I am not in the game. I am not part of the Trade delegation or on any international committees. I don't have a dog in the fight. My career is pretty much on the downstroke. What I am seeing is disturbing. It bothers me that people like you pick on or two metrics to benchmark and believe that is the whole picture. Also, there is gut feelings. My gut tells me we are sacrificing the forest for several trees with the whole picture.
LOL "cherry picking" metrics is a rather ironic statement.

Read the Brookings report. Don't just say Brookings doesn't count on this...

---

Brookings is a Democrat think tank sprinkled with a small number of centrist Republicans, a center-left idea machine arguing for neoConservative and Globalist policies. Some would add it's the brainiac portion of "the swamp." It is philosophically opposed to everything Trump is doing. As are you. So it's no surprise you find their ideas compelling.

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Of course it is. They don't agree with you, so it must be a flawed or biased analysis.

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Didn't say that. Noted reality exactly. You never see Manhattan Institute small government arguments from Brookings. Oh no. It's always an advocate of activist government. And its no surprise, either. Just look at the roster of past Chairmen. Mostly Democrat appointees. Some GOP appointees. All of them patently creatures of the clerisy (FOMC, Council of Foreign Relations, endowed professorships, etc....). That was the establishment structure of my day. It served us well at the time. But all institutional cycles come to an end - they solve the problems they were created to solve but become increasingly less effective over time, eventually requiring the creation of new institutions to better address modern problems which are unresponsive to the old policies. That's where we are at this point in time. The policy regime Brookings helped build and run is at an end. A new one is being formed. And it is past time such occurs.

The dynamic I'm talking about is not at all radical. George Friedman, himself a swamp creature for his entire career, writes about it in his excellent book "The Storm Before the Calm" in which he describes "institutional cycles" pretty much as I alluded to above. We happen to be at the end of the globalist cycle. That doesn't mean globalism was bad. Quite the opposite. It was very successful. Then. Not so much now. New policy regimes must be built And they are. What we see here from you (emotionally) and from ATL (logically) is a defense of the old policy regime. an old policy regime headed for the scrap heap. Those whose worldview were formed by the old regime see what Trump is doing as irrational and destructive, an attack on the only reality they can understand. They see no need for the kind of transformation underway, and cannot envision a scenario that the changes they see happening might actually be better than the status quo.

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The disruption is not being balanced, it is in all directions, all the time. I get the rationale, he has to do it before he is stopped. But their is only so much a system can take being disrupted before it shuts down.
Change offends sensibilities. Yours are incredibly brittle.

On top of that we are coming off the Biden fiasco, so not only are we disrupting everything at once under Trump, it is a whiplash effect from the Biden idiocy with the Green New Deal and the Energy disruption.
LOL..no. We end the decades of feckless federal energy policy (and many others) and put good polices in place. Doing that is going to meet resistance. Finally, we have a POTUS who will not be deterred by the resistance. No president has met the kind of resistance this one has, yet no one has accomplished more. Your take is that if he'd just been nicer, he would not be getting all the resistance. The proper take is that the change we needed was always going to meet a ton of resistance and we need a tough SOB who didn't care how much resistance he got and just bore thru it to get the job done. We have the right guy on the job. And he is doing it. No matter how much you ***** about it.

I get it, no one is more about paradigm shifts than I am. I have spent my entire career on paradigm shifts. I love looking for that next shift. But, we are creating too much shifting in too many directions at once. This latest issue with Greenland is not needed while we are doing tariffs, ICE, border, Venezuela, DOGE, and what else???
Absolutely nothing about your posting here supports the notion that you are Mr. Paradigm Shift. Quite the opposite.

Upsetting the apple cart in foreign policy and domestic is a dangerous game with China looming. By the way, Google "Tidalwave". THAT is something I would really like yours, Nein, and Atl Bear's view on. We have a problem there and I hope it is being addressed, not just redacted..
Could why Trump is talking about an 50% increase in military spending.

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Pandering to sensibilities is exactly why we are in the situation we are in. I don't care if he hurts your feelings. I want the damned job done. I very much appreciate how much he has accomplished. You should too.

boognish_bear said:

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Yup. I’m a Reagan Republican who knows tariffs are a tax on American consumers. Article One in the Constitution gives this authority to Congress and we need to reclaim it. https://t.co/caUtJfMFN8

— Rep. Don Bacon 🇺🇸✈️🏍️⭐️🎖️ (@RepDonBacon) January 21, 2026

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he is correct and has some stones, unlike the rest of the R's meows. disgusting. There is NO Republican Party anymore, just a bunch of Redneck Magaturds.

J.R. said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Yup. I’m a Reagan Republican who knows tariffs are a tax on American consumers. Article One in the Constitution gives this authority to Congress and we need to reclaim it. https://t.co/caUtJfMFN8

— Rep. Don Bacon 🇺🇸✈️🏍️⭐️🎖️ (@RepDonBacon) January 21, 2026

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he is correct and has some stones, unlike the rest of the R's meows. disgusting. There is NO Republican Party anymore, just a bunch of Redneck Magaturds.

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Oh Donald, there you go trolling everyone again.

Back to the topic of the thread.... The purpose of tariffs is to protect jobs and strategic industries from unfair competition. When properly done, it looks like this:

🚨 BREAKING: NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang just revealed he's manufacturing HALF A TRILLION DOLLARS worth of AI computing systems inside the United States of America, crediting President Trump

"I'm really grateful for his policies."

This is HUGE! 🔥🇺🇸pic.twitter.com/MXMiBXqorK

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) January 21, 2026

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whiterock said:

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whiterock said:

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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Assassin said:

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whiterock said:

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Porteroso said:

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Tariff revenue seemingly plateaued. $27.9bn for December, down from the low 30s.

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One month doesn't mean much. Look at the trend line. (which should track with GDP).

---

Also Trump relaxed some of the tariffs. That probably had a bit to do with it

---

….and, of course, the better the trade balance gets, the harder it will be to sustain tariff revenue.

Every time production is moved here to make previously imported goods, the tariff revenue on those goods is lost.

---

Well, we also have policies working against each other. Alienating our trading partners is not helping and not going to make it better.
LOL we haven't alienated them. We've signed massive trade deals with them.
This Greenland crap has the EU moving closed to China and other markets. Canada has inked new deals with China. As well as stronger deals in Africa and Asia.
Posturing by a Liberal government desperately trying to look strong when it is weak. Canada is not going to become a Chinese ally. It's going to elect a Conservative government who will be quite a bit more cooperative.

"Economists expect China to continue gaining global market share this year, helped by Chinese firms setting up overseas production hubs that provide lower-tariff access to the United States and the European Union, as well as by strong demand for lower-grade chips and other electronics."

China's trade ends 2025 with record $1.2 trillion surplus despite Trump tariff jolt | Reuters

All TDS aside, we have to be careful here as a Nation. Too much too soon, we are creating what we feared. You have a stronger world share China, the EU stating it is going independent, and our traditional domestic partners looking toward China.

Are we going to conquer them all? Is that the plan?

---

but the piece' de resistance is your reference to China's record $1.2T trade surplus. That's China's overall trade balance. It's deficit with the USA was down by 28%. (huge success).

All our trade partners are investing trillions of dollars abroad. Mostly in the USA. Almost none of it in China.

Again, we see you crafting a worldview to satisfy your emotions rather than reality.

---

I am not crafting anything, that is why I put a source article.
And it did not say what your post clamed.

I also know human nature, you cannot keep beating people up, telling them they have no choice and threatening without them looking for an alternative. It may take time, but it will happen. Every time. But, that is something bullies never seem to get.
Uh, no. Their feelings are going to conform to reality: They're going to make money and be happy because they are allied with the strongest, wealthiest country in the world.

By the way, the trade deficit is down now. We caught the world by surprise, so they had no choice but to sign initial deals. That will not hold.
So a US trade deficit is now the natural order of things?
We have no hope of ever having a trade surplus?

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You are too sensitive to be playing this game.

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Game? I am not in the game. I am not part of the Trade delegation or on any international committees. I don't have a dog in the fight. My career is pretty much on the downstroke. What I am seeing is disturbing. It bothers me that people like you pick on or two metrics to benchmark and believe that is the whole picture. Also, there is gut feelings. My gut tells me we are sacrificing the forest for several trees with the whole picture.
LOL "cherry picking" metrics is a rather ironic statement.

Read the Brookings report. Don't just say Brookings doesn't count on this...

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Brookings is a Democrat think tank sprinkled with a small number of centrist Republicans, a center-left idea machine arguing for neoConservative and Globalist policies. Some would add it's the brainiac portion of "the swamp." It is philosophically opposed to everything Trump is doing. As are you. So it's no surprise you find their ideas compelling.

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Of course it is. They don't agree with you, so it must be a flawed or biased analysis.

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Didn't say that. Noted reality exactly. You never see Manhattan Institute small government arguments from Brookings. Oh no. It's always an advocate of activist government. And its no surprise, either. Just look at the roster of past Chairmen. Mostly Democrat appointees. Some GOP appointees. All of them patently creatures of the clerisy (FOMC, Council of Foreign Relations, endowed professorships, etc....). That was the establishment structure of my day. It served us well at the time. But all institutional cycles come to an end - they solve the problems they were created to solve but become increasingly less effective over time, eventually requiring the creation of new institutions to better address modern problems which are unresponsive to the old policies. That's where we are at this point in time. The policy regime Brookings helped build and run is at an end. A new one is being formed. And it is past time such occurs.

The dynamic I'm talking about is not at all radical. George Friedman, himself a swamp creature for his entire career, writes about it in his excellent book "The Storm Before the Calm" in which he describes "institutional cycles" pretty much as I alluded to above. We happen to be at the end of the globalist cycle. That doesn't mean globalism was bad. Quite the opposite. It was very successful. Then. Not so much now. New policy regimes must be built And they are. What we see here from you (emotionally) and from ATL (logically) is a defense of the old policy regime. an old policy regime headed for the scrap heap. Those whose worldview were formed by the old regime see what Trump is doing as irrational and destructive, an attack on the only reality they can understand. They see no need for the kind of transformation underway, and cannot envision a scenario that the changes they see happening might actually be better than the status quo.

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The disruption is not being balanced, it is in all directions, all the time. I get the rationale, he has to do it before he is stopped. But their is only so much a system can take being disrupted before it shuts down.
Change offends sensibilities. Yours are incredibly brittle.

On top of that we are coming off the Biden fiasco, so not only are we disrupting everything at once under Trump, it is a whiplash effect from the Biden idiocy with the Green New Deal and the Energy disruption.
LOL..no. We end the decades of feckless federal energy policy (and many others) and put good polices in place. Doing that is going to meet resistance. Finally, we have a POTUS who will not be deterred by the resistance. No president has met the kind of resistance this one has, yet no one has accomplished more. Your take is that if he'd just been nicer, he would not be getting all the resistance. The proper take is that the change we needed was always going to meet a ton of resistance and we need a tough SOB who didn't care how much resistance he got and just bore thru it to get the job done. We have the right guy on the job. And he is doing it. No matter how much you ***** about it.

I get it, no one is more about paradigm shifts than I am. I have spent my entire career on paradigm shifts. I love looking for that next shift. But, we are creating too much shifting in too many directions at once. This latest issue with Greenland is not needed while we are doing tariffs, ICE, border, Venezuela, DOGE, and what else???
Absolutely nothing about your posting here supports the notion that you are Mr. Paradigm Shift. Quite the opposite.

Upsetting the apple cart in foreign policy and domestic is a dangerous game with China looming. By the way, Google "Tidalwave". THAT is something I would really like yours, Nein, and Atl Bear's view on. We have a problem there and I hope it is being addressed, not just redacted..
Could why Trump is talking about an 50% increase in military spending.

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Pandering to sensibilities is exactly why we are in the situation we are in. I don't care if he hurts your feelings. I want the damned job done. I very much appreciate how much he has accomplished. You should too.

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What has he accomplished? Seriously, a lot of turmoil, lots of insults, alienated alliances. He got nothing on the Greenland mess, DOGE has proven to be a joke, ICE is going to cost them the midterms, and the tariffs have raised prices to where affordability is going to be front and center for the midterms.

Beside Leavitt screaming that we are kicking ass and Bannon cheering on the base, What has he actually gotten done? Seeing smoke and yelling....

By the way, you and MAGA are not about paradigm shifting- disruption, corrective action, reuse of past tactics, yearning for the past and bullying? Yes, most definitely. Paradigm shifts? No. There is nothing new in what Trump is doing, actually he is trying to go back to 1960.

If you like I can post a video on paradigm shifts using Xerox that is quite good if you would like to learn about it.

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….and, of course, the better the trade balance gets, the harder it will be to sustain tariff revenue.

Every time production is moved here to make previously imported goods, the tariff revenue on those goods is lost.

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Well, we also have policies working against each other. Alienating our trading partners is not helping and not going to make it better.
LOL we haven't alienated them. We've signed massive trade deals with them.
This Greenland crap has the EU moving closed to China and other markets. Canada has inked new deals with China. As well as stronger deals in Africa and Asia.
Posturing by a Liberal government desperately trying to look strong when it is weak. Canada is not going to become a Chinese ally. It's going to elect a Conservative government who will be quite a bit more cooperative.

"Economists expect China to continue gaining global market share this year, helped by Chinese firms setting up overseas production hubs that provide lower-tariff access to the United States and the European Union, as well as by strong demand for lower-grade chips and other electronics."

China's trade ends 2025 with record $1.2 trillion surplus despite Trump tariff jolt | Reuters

All TDS aside, we have to be careful here as a Nation. Too much too soon, we are creating what we feared. You have a stronger world share China, the EU stating it is going independent, and our traditional domestic partners looking toward China.

Are we going to conquer them all? Is that the plan?

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but the piece' de resistance is your reference to China's record $1.2T trade surplus. That's China's overall trade balance. It's deficit with the USA was down by 28%. (huge success).

All our trade partners are investing trillions of dollars abroad. Mostly in the USA. Almost none of it in China.

Again, we see you crafting a worldview to satisfy your emotions rather than reality.

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I am not crafting anything, that is why I put a source article.
And it did not say what your post clamed.

I also know human nature, you cannot keep beating people up, telling them they have no choice and threatening without them looking for an alternative. It may take time, but it will happen. Every time. But, that is something bullies never seem to get.
Uh, no. Their feelings are going to conform to reality: They're going to make money and be happy because they are allied with the strongest, wealthiest country in the world.

By the way, the trade deficit is down now. We caught the world by surprise, so they had no choice but to sign initial deals. That will not hold.
So a US trade deficit is now the natural order of things?
We have no hope of ever having a trade surplus?

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You are too sensitive to be playing this game.

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Game? I am not in the game. I am not part of the Trade delegation or on any international committees. I don't have a dog in the fight. My career is pretty much on the downstroke. What I am seeing is disturbing. It bothers me that people like you pick on or two metrics to benchmark and believe that is the whole picture. Also, there is gut feelings. My gut tells me we are sacrificing the forest for several trees with the whole picture.
LOL "cherry picking" metrics is a rather ironic statement.

Read the Brookings report. Don't just say Brookings doesn't count on this...

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Brookings is a Democrat think tank sprinkled with a small number of centrist Republicans, a center-left idea machine arguing for neoConservative and Globalist policies. Some would add it's the brainiac portion of "the swamp." It is philosophically opposed to everything Trump is doing. As are you. So it's no surprise you find their ideas compelling.

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Of course it is. They don't agree with you, so it must be a flawed or biased analysis.

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Didn't say that. Noted reality exactly. You never see Manhattan Institute small government arguments from Brookings. Oh no. It's always an advocate of activist government. And its no surprise, either. Just look at the roster of past Chairmen. Mostly Democrat appointees. Some GOP appointees. All of them patently creatures of the clerisy (FOMC, Council of Foreign Relations, endowed professorships, etc....). That was the establishment structure of my day. It served us well at the time. But all institutional cycles come to an end - they solve the problems they were created to solve but become increasingly less effective over time, eventually requiring the creation of new institutions to better address modern problems which are unresponsive to the old policies. That's where we are at this point in time. The policy regime Brookings helped build and run is at an end. A new one is being formed. And it is past time such occurs.

The dynamic I'm talking about is not at all radical. George Friedman, himself a swamp creature for his entire career, writes about it in his excellent book "The Storm Before the Calm" in which he describes "institutional cycles" pretty much as I alluded to above. We happen to be at the end of the globalist cycle. That doesn't mean globalism was bad. Quite the opposite. It was very successful. Then. Not so much now. New policy regimes must be built And they are. What we see here from you (emotionally) and from ATL (logically) is a defense of the old policy regime. an old policy regime headed for the scrap heap. Those whose worldview were formed by the old regime see what Trump is doing as irrational and destructive, an attack on the only reality they can understand. They see no need for the kind of transformation underway, and cannot envision a scenario that the changes they see happening might actually be better than the status quo.

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The disruption is not being balanced, it is in all directions, all the time. I get the rationale, he has to do it before he is stopped. But their is only so much a system can take being disrupted before it shuts down.
Change offends sensibilities. Yours are incredibly brittle.

On top of that we are coming off the Biden fiasco, so not only are we disrupting everything at once under Trump, it is a whiplash effect from the Biden idiocy with the Green New Deal and the Energy disruption.
LOL..no. We end the decades of feckless federal energy policy (and many others) and put good polices in place. Doing that is going to meet resistance. Finally, we have a POTUS who will not be deterred by the resistance. No president has met the kind of resistance this one has, yet no one has accomplished more. Your take is that if he'd just been nicer, he would not be getting all the resistance. The proper take is that the change we needed was always going to meet a ton of resistance and we need a tough SOB who didn't care how much resistance he got and just bore thru it to get the job done. We have the right guy on the job. And he is doing it. No matter how much you ***** about it.

I get it, no one is more about paradigm shifts than I am. I have spent my entire career on paradigm shifts. I love looking for that next shift. But, we are creating too much shifting in too many directions at once. This latest issue with Greenland is not needed while we are doing tariffs, ICE, border, Venezuela, DOGE, and what else???
Absolutely nothing about your posting here supports the notion that you are Mr. Paradigm Shift. Quite the opposite.

Upsetting the apple cart in foreign policy and domestic is a dangerous game with China looming. By the way, Google "Tidalwave". THAT is something I would really like yours, Nein, and Atl Bear's view on. We have a problem there and I hope it is being addressed, not just redacted..
Could why Trump is talking about an 50% increase in military spending.

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Pandering to sensibilities is exactly why we are in the situation we are in. I don't care if he hurts your feelings. I want the damned job done. I very much appreciate how much he has accomplished. You should too.

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What has he accomplished? Seriously, a lot of turmoil, lots of insults, alienated alliances. He got nothing on the Greenland mess, DOGE has proven to be a joke, ICE is going to cost them the midterms, and the tariffs have raised prices to where affordability is going to be front and center for the midterms.

Beside Leavitt screaming that we are kicking ass and Bannon cheering on the base, What has he actually gotten done? Seeing smoke and yelling....

By the way, you and MAGA are not about paradigm shifting- disruption, corrective action, reuse of past tactics, yearning for the past and bullying? Yes, most definitely. Paradigm shifts? No. There is nothing new in what Trump is doing, actually he is trying to go back to 1960.

If you like I can post a video on paradigm shifts using Xerox that is quite good if you would like to learn about it.

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thank you for pointing out how willfully obtuse you are.

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whiterock said:

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whiterock said:

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whiterock said:

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….and, of course, the better the trade balance gets, the harder it will be to sustain tariff revenue.

Every time production is moved here to make previously imported goods, the tariff revenue on those goods is lost.

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Well, we also have policies working against each other. Alienating our trading partners is not helping and not going to make it better.
LOL we haven't alienated them. We've signed massive trade deals with them.
This Greenland crap has the EU moving closed to China and other markets. Canada has inked new deals with China. As well as stronger deals in Africa and Asia.
Posturing by a Liberal government desperately trying to look strong when it is weak. Canada is not going to become a Chinese ally. It's going to elect a Conservative government who will be quite a bit more cooperative.

"Economists expect China to continue gaining global market share this year, helped by Chinese firms setting up overseas production hubs that provide lower-tariff access to the United States and the European Union, as well as by strong demand for lower-grade chips and other electronics."

China's trade ends 2025 with record $1.2 trillion surplus despite Trump tariff jolt | Reuters

All TDS aside, we have to be careful here as a Nation. Too much too soon, we are creating what we feared. You have a stronger world share China, the EU stating it is going independent, and our traditional domestic partners looking toward China.

Are we going to conquer them all? Is that the plan?

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but the piece' de resistance is your reference to China's record $1.2T trade surplus. That's China's overall trade balance. It's deficit with the USA was down by 28%. (huge success).

All our trade partners are investing trillions of dollars abroad. Mostly in the USA. Almost none of it in China.

Again, we see you crafting a worldview to satisfy your emotions rather than reality.

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I am not crafting anything, that is why I put a source article.
And it did not say what your post clamed.

I also know human nature, you cannot keep beating people up, telling them they have no choice and threatening without them looking for an alternative. It may take time, but it will happen. Every time. But, that is something bullies never seem to get.
Uh, no. Their feelings are going to conform to reality: They're going to make money and be happy because they are allied with the strongest, wealthiest country in the world.

By the way, the trade deficit is down now. We caught the world by surprise, so they had no choice but to sign initial deals. That will not hold.
So a US trade deficit is now the natural order of things?
We have no hope of ever having a trade surplus?

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You are too sensitive to be playing this game.

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Game? I am not in the game. I am not part of the Trade delegation or on any international committees. I don't have a dog in the fight. My career is pretty much on the downstroke. What I am seeing is disturbing. It bothers me that people like you pick on or two metrics to benchmark and believe that is the whole picture. Also, there is gut feelings. My gut tells me we are sacrificing the forest for several trees with the whole picture.
LOL "cherry picking" metrics is a rather ironic statement.

Read the Brookings report. Don't just say Brookings doesn't count on this...

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Brookings is a Democrat think tank sprinkled with a small number of centrist Republicans, a center-left idea machine arguing for neoConservative and Globalist policies. Some would add it's the brainiac portion of "the swamp." It is philosophically opposed to everything Trump is doing. As are you. So it's no surprise you find their ideas compelling.

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Of course it is. They don't agree with you, so it must be a flawed or biased analysis.

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Didn't say that. Noted reality exactly. You never see Manhattan Institute small government arguments from Brookings. Oh no. It's always an advocate of activist government. And its no surprise, either. Just look at the roster of past Chairmen. Mostly Democrat appointees. Some GOP appointees. All of them patently creatures of the clerisy (FOMC, Council of Foreign Relations, endowed professorships, etc....). That was the establishment structure of my day. It served us well at the time. But all institutional cycles come to an end - they solve the problems they were created to solve but become increasingly less effective over time, eventually requiring the creation of new institutions to better address modern problems which are unresponsive to the old policies. That's where we are at this point in time. The policy regime Brookings helped build and run is at an end. A new one is being formed. And it is past time such occurs.

The dynamic I'm talking about is not at all radical. George Friedman, himself a swamp creature for his entire career, writes about it in his excellent book "The Storm Before the Calm" in which he describes "institutional cycles" pretty much as I alluded to above. We happen to be at the end of the globalist cycle. That doesn't mean globalism was bad. Quite the opposite. It was very successful. Then. Not so much now. New policy regimes must be built And they are. What we see here from you (emotionally) and from ATL (logically) is a defense of the old policy regime. an old policy regime headed for the scrap heap. Those whose worldview were formed by the old regime see what Trump is doing as irrational and destructive, an attack on the only reality they can understand. They see no need for the kind of transformation underway, and cannot envision a scenario that the changes they see happening might actually be better than the status quo.

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The disruption is not being balanced, it is in all directions, all the time. I get the rationale, he has to do it before he is stopped. But their is only so much a system can take being disrupted before it shuts down.
Change offends sensibilities. Yours are incredibly brittle.

On top of that we are coming off the Biden fiasco, so not only are we disrupting everything at once under Trump, it is a whiplash effect from the Biden idiocy with the Green New Deal and the Energy disruption.
LOL..no. We end the decades of feckless federal energy policy (and many others) and put good polices in place. Doing that is going to meet resistance. Finally, we have a POTUS who will not be deterred by the resistance. No president has met the kind of resistance this one has, yet no one has accomplished more. Your take is that if he'd just been nicer, he would not be getting all the resistance. The proper take is that the change we needed was always going to meet a ton of resistance and we need a tough SOB who didn't care how much resistance he got and just bore thru it to get the job done. We have the right guy on the job. And he is doing it. No matter how much you ***** about it.

I get it, no one is more about paradigm shifts than I am. I have spent my entire career on paradigm shifts. I love looking for that next shift. But, we are creating too much shifting in too many directions at once. This latest issue with Greenland is not needed while we are doing tariffs, ICE, border, Venezuela, DOGE, and what else???
Absolutely nothing about your posting here supports the notion that you are Mr. Paradigm Shift. Quite the opposite.

Upsetting the apple cart in foreign policy and domestic is a dangerous game with China looming. By the way, Google "Tidalwave". THAT is something I would really like yours, Nein, and Atl Bear's view on. We have a problem there and I hope it is being addressed, not just redacted..
Could why Trump is talking about an 50% increase in military spending.

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Pandering to sensibilities is exactly why we are in the situation we are in. I don't care if he hurts your feelings. I want the damned job done. I very much appreciate how much he has accomplished. You should too.

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What has he accomplished? Seriously, a lot of turmoil, lots of insults, alienated alliances. He got nothing on the Greenland mess, DOGE has proven to be a joke, ICE is going to cost them the midterms, and the tariffs have raised prices to where affordability is going to be front and center for the midterms.

Beside Leavitt screaming that we are kicking ass and Bannon cheering on the base, What has he actually gotten done? Seeing smoke and yelling....

By the way, you and MAGA are not about paradigm shifting- disruption, corrective action, reuse of past tactics, yearning for the past and bullying? Yes, most definitely. Paradigm shifts? No. There is nothing new in what Trump is doing, actually he is trying to go back to 1960.

If you like I can post a video on paradigm shifts using Xerox that is quite good if you would like to learn about it.

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thank you for pointing out how willfully obtuse you are.

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Don't have answers, I get it. So far, we have a lot of texts, press releases and nasty comments at those that question, mid-terms are going to be interesting. Don't see it yet, do you...

By the way, you are bugling the Greenland fiasco as a win. Why? We didn't gain anything we didn't already have and we alienated (and insulted) the majority of our ally base. When did you lose your objectivity? OR, was that your goal, to jettison Europe?

By the way, once again, big on what and nothing on how. 50% increase in spending does not answer the question on the situation in the Pacific. Throwing money at things (and insults) doesn't solve problems. We are pulling back from the Pacific to the Western Hemisphere. How do we meet those obligations? OR are they not Binding, so we don't care anymore about Asia?

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Back to the topic of the thread.... The purpose of tariffs is to protect jobs and strategic industries from unfair competition. When properly done, it looks like this:

🚨 BREAKING: NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang just revealed he's manufacturing HALF A TRILLION DOLLARS worth of AI computing systems inside the United States of America, crediting President Trump

"I'm really grateful for his policies."

This is HUGE! 🔥🇺🇸pic.twitter.com/MXMiBXqorK

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) January 21, 2026

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Trillions are on the line every time this businessman speaks. Are you actually thinking he is endorsing Trump's policies in general? Or maybe is he trying to get Trump to ease restrictions on his company?

Reminds me of the time our diplomats were coaching Russian diplomats on how to suck up to Trump. Which exact phrases he likes. Exactly which part of the boot to lick?

And of course Whiterock is all like "See, even the Russians think Trump deserves the Nobel Peace Prize!!!"

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Yup. I’m a Reagan Republican who knows tariffs are a tax on American consumers. Article One in the Constitution gives this authority to Congress and we need to reclaim it. https://t.co/caUtJfMFN8

— Rep. Don Bacon 🇺🇸✈️🏍️⭐️🎖️ (@RepDonBacon) January 21, 2026

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he is correct and has some stones, unlike the rest of the R's meows. disgusting. There is NO Republican Party anymore, just a bunch of Redneck Magaturds.

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Oh Donald, there you go trolling everyone again.

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speaking of non thinking maga turds. making Merca suck on the world's stage. Gold Standard. Hell effing no.

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Back to the topic of the thread.... The purpose of tariffs is to protect jobs and strategic industries from unfair competition. When properly done, it looks like this:

🚨 BREAKING: NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang just revealed he's manufacturing HALF A TRILLION DOLLARS worth of AI computing systems inside the United States of America, crediting President Trump

"I'm really grateful for his policies."

This is HUGE! 🔥🇺🇸pic.twitter.com/MXMiBXqorK

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) January 21, 2026

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Trillions are on the line every time this businessman speaks. Are you actually thinking he is endorsing Trump's policies in general? Or maybe is he trying to get Trump to ease restrictions on his company?

Reminds me of the time our diplomats were coaching Russian diplomats on how to suck up to Trump. Which exact phrases he likes. Exactly which part of the boot to lick?

And of course Whiterock is all like "See, even the Russians think Trump deserves the Nobel Peace Prize!!!"

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TSMC is losing money on their U.S. operations and cannot transition the next gen advanced chip production here due to lack of skill and a limit on their ability to bring Taiwanese workers in to help get it off the ground. NVIDIA has the same issue. At this point they're saying nice things to avoid irrational action, and are moving some dirt around to say it's happening.

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Porteroso said:

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whiterock said:

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Back to the topic of the thread.... The purpose of tariffs is to protect jobs and strategic industries from unfair competition. When properly done, it looks like this:

🚨 BREAKING: NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang just revealed he's manufacturing HALF A TRILLION DOLLARS worth of AI computing systems inside the United States of America, crediting President Trump

"I'm really grateful for his policies."

This is HUGE! 🔥🇺🇸pic.twitter.com/MXMiBXqorK

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) January 21, 2026

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Trillions are on the line every time this businessman speaks. Are you actually thinking he is endorsing Trump's policies in general? Or maybe is he trying to get Trump to ease restrictions on his company?

Reminds me of the time our diplomats were coaching Russian diplomats on how to suck up to Trump. Which exact phrases he likes. Exactly which part of the boot to lick?

And of course Whiterock is all like "See, even the Russians think Trump deserves the Nobel Peace Prize!!!"

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At this point they're saying nice things to avoid irrational action, and are moving some dirt around to say it's happening.

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LOL


And Trump STILL hasn't found a cure for all cancers yet.

Knew I should have voted for Harris.

First you mention cancers, then Harris.

I see what you did there!

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Porteroso said:

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whiterock said:

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Back to the topic of the thread.... The purpose of tariffs is to protect jobs and strategic industries from unfair competition. When properly done, it looks like this:

🚨 BREAKING: NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang just revealed he's manufacturing HALF A TRILLION DOLLARS worth of AI computing systems inside the United States of America, crediting President Trump

"I'm really grateful for his policies."

This is HUGE! 🔥🇺🇸pic.twitter.com/MXMiBXqorK

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) January 21, 2026

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Trillions are on the line every time this businessman speaks. Are you actually thinking he is endorsing Trump's policies in general? Or maybe is he trying to get Trump to ease restrictions on his company?

Reminds me of the time our diplomats were coaching Russian diplomats on how to suck up to Trump. Which exact phrases he likes. Exactly which part of the boot to lick?

And of course Whiterock is all like "See, even the Russians think Trump deserves the Nobel Peace Prize!!!"

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At this point they're saying nice things to avoid irrational action, and are moving some dirt around to say it's happening.

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LOL


And Trump STILL hasn't found a cure for all cancers yet.

Knew I should have voted for Harris.

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I think he already declared that accomplishment. It was on page 64 of the Self Affirmation Treatise.

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Porteroso said:

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whiterock said:

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Back to the topic of the thread.... The purpose of tariffs is to protect jobs and strategic industries from unfair competition. When properly done, it looks like this:

🚨 BREAKING: NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang just revealed he's manufacturing HALF A TRILLION DOLLARS worth of AI computing systems inside the United States of America, crediting President Trump

"I'm really grateful for his policies."

This is HUGE! 🔥🇺🇸pic.twitter.com/MXMiBXqorK

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) January 21, 2026

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Trillions are on the line every time this businessman speaks. Are you actually thinking he is endorsing Trump's policies in general? Or maybe is he trying to get Trump to ease restrictions on his company?

Reminds me of the time our diplomats were coaching Russian diplomats on how to suck up to Trump. Which exact phrases he likes. Exactly which part of the boot to lick?

And of course Whiterock is all like "See, even the Russians think Trump deserves the Nobel Peace Prize!!!"

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At this point they're saying nice things to avoid irrational action, and are moving some dirt around to say it's happening.

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LOL


And Trump STILL hasn't found a cure for all cancers yet.

Knew I should have voted for Harris.

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I think he already declared that accomplishment. It was on page 64 of the Self Affirmation Treatise.

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Doesn't matter.

Harris was the correct choice.

An additional 30 million illegals is just what would benefit this country the most.

KaiBear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Porteroso said:

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whiterock said:

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Back to the topic of the thread.... The purpose of tariffs is to protect jobs and strategic industries from unfair competition. When properly done, it looks like this:

🚨 BREAKING: NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang just revealed he's manufacturing HALF A TRILLION DOLLARS worth of AI computing systems inside the United States of America, crediting President Trump

"I'm really grateful for his policies."

This is HUGE! 🔥🇺🇸pic.twitter.com/MXMiBXqorK

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) January 21, 2026

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Trillions are on the line every time this businessman speaks. Are you actually thinking he is endorsing Trump's policies in general? Or maybe is he trying to get Trump to ease restrictions on his company?

Reminds me of the time our diplomats were coaching Russian diplomats on how to suck up to Trump. Which exact phrases he likes. Exactly which part of the boot to lick?

And of course Whiterock is all like "See, even the Russians think Trump deserves the Nobel Peace Prize!!!"

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At this point they're saying nice things to avoid irrational action, and are moving some dirt around to say it's happening.

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LOL


And Trump STILL hasn't found a cure for all cancers yet.

Knew I should have voted for Harris.

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I think he already declared that accomplishment. It was on page 64 of the Self Affirmation Treatise.

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Doesn't matter.

Harris was the correct choice.

An additional 30 million illegals is just what would benefit this country the most.

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One hit wonder I guess.

J.R. said:

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whiterock said:

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J.R. said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Yup. I’m a Reagan Republican who knows tariffs are a tax on American consumers. Article One in the Constitution gives this authority to Congress and we need to reclaim it. https://t.co/caUtJfMFN8

— Rep. Don Bacon 🇺🇸✈️🏍️⭐️🎖️ (@RepDonBacon) January 21, 2026

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he is correct and has some stones, unlike the rest of the R's meows. disgusting. There is NO Republican Party anymore, just a bunch of Redneck Magaturds.

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Oh Donald, there you go trolling everyone again.

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speaking of non thinking maga turds. making Merca suck on the world's stage. Gold Standard. Hell effing no.

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LOL you just can stand it when he causes good things to happen.

Trump has SLASHED the U.S. trade deficit in half in under a year.

Now, that's an accomplishment!

All we needed was a new president.
pic.twitter.com/3CqqDaUbdn

— Mila Joy (@Milajoy) January 22, 2026

whiterock said:

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J.R. said:

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whiterock said:

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J.R. said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Yup. I’m a Reagan Republican who knows tariffs are a tax on American consumers. Article One in the Constitution gives this authority to Congress and we need to reclaim it. https://t.co/caUtJfMFN8

— Rep. Don Bacon 🇺🇸✈️🏍️⭐️🎖️ (@RepDonBacon) January 21, 2026

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he is correct and has some stones, unlike the rest of the R's meows. disgusting. There is NO Republican Party anymore, just a bunch of Redneck Magaturds.

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Oh Donald, there you go trolling everyone again.

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speaking of non thinking maga turds. making Merca suck on the world's stage. Gold Standard. Hell effing no.

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LOL you just can stand it when he causes good things to happen.

Trump has SLASHED the U.S. trade deficit in half in under a year.

Now, that's an accomplishment!

All we needed was a new president.
pic.twitter.com/3CqqDaUbdn

— Mila Joy (@Milajoy) January 22, 2026

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As long as the rest of the economy holds, it should be a positive.

Can you share with us the other metrics? Such as, Manufacturing levels, Sector reports and overall GDP?

I prefer you to provide the information, if I do it you will just not like the source.

How is the whole picture?

ATL Bear said:

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KaiBear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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KaiBear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Porteroso said:

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whiterock said:

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Back to the topic of the thread.... The purpose of tariffs is to protect jobs and strategic industries from unfair competition. When properly done, it looks like this:

🚨 BREAKING: NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang just revealed he's manufacturing HALF A TRILLION DOLLARS worth of AI computing systems inside the United States of America, crediting President Trump

"I'm really grateful for his policies."

This is HUGE! 🔥🇺🇸pic.twitter.com/MXMiBXqorK

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) January 21, 2026

---

Trillions are on the line every time this businessman speaks. Are you actually thinking he is endorsing Trump's policies in general? Or maybe is he trying to get Trump to ease restrictions on his company?

Reminds me of the time our diplomats were coaching Russian diplomats on how to suck up to Trump. Which exact phrases he likes. Exactly which part of the boot to lick?

And of course Whiterock is all like "See, even the Russians think Trump deserves the Nobel Peace Prize!!!"

---

At this point they're saying nice things to avoid irrational action, and are moving some dirt around to say it's happening.

---

LOL


And Trump STILL hasn't found a cure for all cancers yet.

Knew I should have voted for Harris.

---

I think he already declared that accomplishment. It was on page 64 of the Self Affirmation Treatise.

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Doesn't matter.

Harris was the correct choice.

An additional 30 million illegals is just what would benefit this country the most.

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One hit wonder I guess.

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Harris would have ended more wars
Would have reduced gasoline prices even lower
Reduced inflation to zero
Reduced crime in US cities with her obvious pro police philosophy.
Got NATO countries to spend more money toward their own defense.
Captured the Venezuelan dictator quicker.
Reduced fentanyl overdoses even more sharply
Eliminated lawfare against Christians much faster
And eliminated all the Somalia fraud on her first day in office

A brilliant woman; Harris would have been the much better choice.

Who could possibly doubt it ?.

muddybrazos said:

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KaiBear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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KaiBear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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KaiBear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Porteroso said:

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whiterock said:

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Back to the topic of the thread.... The purpose of tariffs is to protect jobs and strategic industries from unfair competition. When properly done, it looks like this:

🚨 BREAKING: NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang just revealed he's manufacturing HALF A TRILLION DOLLARS worth of AI computing systems inside the United States of America, crediting President Trump

"I'm really grateful for his policies."

This is HUGE! 🔥🇺🇸pic.twitter.com/MXMiBXqorK

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) January 21, 2026

---

Trillions are on the line every time this businessman speaks. Are you actually thinking he is endorsing Trump's policies in general? Or maybe is he trying to get Trump to ease restrictions on his company?

Reminds me of the time our diplomats were coaching Russian diplomats on how to suck up to Trump. Which exact phrases he likes. Exactly which part of the boot to lick?

And of course Whiterock is all like "See, even the Russians think Trump deserves the Nobel Peace Prize!!!"

---

At this point they're saying nice things to avoid irrational action, and are moving some dirt around to say it's happening.

---

LOL


And Trump STILL hasn't found a cure for all cancers yet.

Knew I should have voted for Harris.

---

I think he already declared that accomplishment. It was on page 64 of the Self Affirmation Treatise.

---

Doesn't matter.

Harris was the correct choice.

An additional 30 million illegals is just what would benefit this country the most.

---

One hit wonder I guess.

---

Harris would have ended more wars
Would have reduced gasoline prices even lower
Reduced inflation to zero
Reduced crime in US cities with her obvious pro police philosophy.
Got NATO countries to spend more money toward their own defense.
Captured the Venezuelan dictator quicker.
Reduced fentanyl overdoses even more sharply
Eliminated lawfare against Christians much faster
And eliminated all the Somalia fraud on her first day in office

A brilliant woman; Harris would have been the much better choice.

Who could possibly doubt it ?.

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not to nitpick but did Trump end the Somalian fraud.? the only reason we know about it is bc of a youtuber and I have yet to see any arrests made on that. Trump really needs to get his ass in gear and start arresting people. Bondi is not getting it done, kash patel is awful, bongino was a failure etc. Trump talks a lot but he really is not cleaning up the swamp and meanwhile the rino repubs just passed another $5 billion in aid to migrants to they can do more fraud.

And when we vote against this minibus containing the $5 billion refugee welfare program, some will say “why aren’t you supporting the President?!” https://t.co/ukbHZTjZqC

— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) January 21, 2026

Rand and Massie are two fo the best republicans and Trump wants Massie kicked out of office.

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I can't understand why he's attacking them. Their viewpoints seem very MAGA friendly. It seemed to start with Massie over the Epstein stuff.

boognish_bear said:

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muddybrazos said:

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KaiBear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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KaiBear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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KaiBear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Porteroso said:

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whiterock said:

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Back to the topic of the thread.... The purpose of tariffs is to protect jobs and strategic industries from unfair competition. When properly done, it looks like this:

🚨 BREAKING: NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang just revealed he's manufacturing HALF A TRILLION DOLLARS worth of AI computing systems inside the United States of America, crediting President Trump

"I'm really grateful for his policies."

This is HUGE! 🔥🇺🇸pic.twitter.com/MXMiBXqorK

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) January 21, 2026

---

Trillions are on the line every time this businessman speaks. Are you actually thinking he is endorsing Trump's policies in general? Or maybe is he trying to get Trump to ease restrictions on his company?

Reminds me of the time our diplomats were coaching Russian diplomats on how to suck up to Trump. Which exact phrases he likes. Exactly which part of the boot to lick?

And of course Whiterock is all like "See, even the Russians think Trump deserves the Nobel Peace Prize!!!"

---

At this point they're saying nice things to avoid irrational action, and are moving some dirt around to say it's happening.

---

LOL


And Trump STILL hasn't found a cure for all cancers yet.

Knew I should have voted for Harris.

---

I think he already declared that accomplishment. It was on page 64 of the Self Affirmation Treatise.

---

Doesn't matter.

Harris was the correct choice.

An additional 30 million illegals is just what would benefit this country the most.

---

One hit wonder I guess.

---

Harris would have ended more wars
Would have reduced gasoline prices even lower
Reduced inflation to zero
Reduced crime in US cities with her obvious pro police philosophy.
Got NATO countries to spend more money toward their own defense.
Captured the Venezuelan dictator quicker.
Reduced fentanyl overdoses even more sharply
Eliminated lawfare against Christians much faster
And eliminated all the Somalia fraud on her first day in office

A brilliant woman; Harris would have been the much better choice.

Who could possibly doubt it ?.

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not to nitpick but did Trump end the Somalian fraud.? the only reason we know about it is bc of a youtuber and I have yet to see any arrests made on that. Trump really needs to get his ass in gear and start arresting people. Bondi is not getting it done, kash patel is awful, bongino was a failure etc. Trump talks a lot but he really is not cleaning up the swamp and meanwhile the rino repubs just passed another $5 billion in aid to migrants to they can do more fraud.

And when we vote against this minibus containing the $5 billion refugee welfare program, some will say “why aren’t you supporting the President?!” https://t.co/ukbHZTjZqC

— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) January 21, 2026

Rand and Massie are two fo the best republicans and Trump wants Massie kicked out of office.

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I can't understand why he's attacking them. Their viewpoints seem very MAGA friendly. It seemed to start with Massie over the Epstein stuff.

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He should attack Thune & Johnson for not getting stuff done. The dems are gonna take back the house at the midterms and its over. He will be a lame duck and nothing that needs to get done will get done.

KaiBear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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KaiBear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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KaiBear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Porteroso said:

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whiterock said:

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Back to the topic of the thread.... The purpose of tariffs is to protect jobs and strategic industries from unfair competition. When properly done, it looks like this:

🚨 BREAKING: NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang just revealed he's manufacturing HALF A TRILLION DOLLARS worth of AI computing systems inside the United States of America, crediting President Trump

"I'm really grateful for his policies."

This is HUGE! 🔥🇺🇸pic.twitter.com/MXMiBXqorK

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) January 21, 2026

---

Trillions are on the line every time this businessman speaks. Are you actually thinking he is endorsing Trump's policies in general? Or maybe is he trying to get Trump to ease restrictions on his company?

Reminds me of the time our diplomats were coaching Russian diplomats on how to suck up to Trump. Which exact phrases he likes. Exactly which part of the boot to lick?

And of course Whiterock is all like "See, even the Russians think Trump deserves the Nobel Peace Prize!!!"

---

At this point they're saying nice things to avoid irrational action, and are moving some dirt around to say it's happening.

---

LOL


And Trump STILL hasn't found a cure for all cancers yet.

Knew I should have voted for Harris.

---

I think he already declared that accomplishment. It was on page 64 of the Self Affirmation Treatise.

---

Doesn't matter.

Harris was the correct choice.

An additional 30 million illegals is just what would benefit this country the most.

---

One hit wonder I guess.

---

Harris would have ended more wars
Would have reduced gasoline prices even lower
Reduced inflation to zero
Reduced crime in US cities with her obvious pro police philosophy.
Got NATO countries to spend more money toward their own defense.
Captured the Venezuelan dictator quicker.
Reduced fentanyl overdoses even more sharply
Eliminated lawfare against Christians much faster
And eliminated all the Somalia fraud on her first day in office

A brilliant woman; Harris would have been the much better choice.

Who could possibly doubt it ?.

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why you talking about Harris. This is the Pig-Man show, period. No value in what ifs, even if it makes you feel better.

KaiBear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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KaiBear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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KaiBear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Porteroso said:

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whiterock said:

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Back to the topic of the thread.... The purpose of tariffs is to protect jobs and strategic industries from unfair competition. When properly done, it looks like this:

🚨 BREAKING: NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang just revealed he's manufacturing HALF A TRILLION DOLLARS worth of AI computing systems inside the United States of America, crediting President Trump

"I'm really grateful for his policies."

This is HUGE! 🔥🇺🇸pic.twitter.com/MXMiBXqorK

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) January 21, 2026

---

Trillions are on the line every time this businessman speaks. Are you actually thinking he is endorsing Trump's policies in general? Or maybe is he trying to get Trump to ease restrictions on his company?

Reminds me of the time our diplomats were coaching Russian diplomats on how to suck up to Trump. Which exact phrases he likes. Exactly which part of the boot to lick?

And of course Whiterock is all like "See, even the Russians think Trump deserves the Nobel Peace Prize!!!"

---

At this point they're saying nice things to avoid irrational action, and are moving some dirt around to say it's happening.

---

LOL


And Trump STILL hasn't found a cure for all cancers yet.

Knew I should have voted for Harris.

---

I think he already declared that accomplishment. It was on page 64 of the Self Affirmation Treatise.

---

Doesn't matter.

Harris was the correct choice.

An additional 30 million illegals is just what would benefit this country the most.

---

One hit wonder I guess.

---

Harris would have ended more wars
Would have reduced gasoline prices even lower
Reduced inflation to zero
Reduced crime in US cities with her obvious pro police philosophy.
Got NATO countries to spend more money toward their own defense.
Captured the Venezuelan dictator quicker.
Reduced fentanyl overdoses even more sharply
Eliminated lawfare against Christians much faster
And eliminated all the Somalia fraud on her first day in office

A brilliant woman; Harris would have been the much better choice.

Who could possibly doubt it ?.

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you forgot eliminations 865 wars and presided over the best economy since the Estustcans!

muddybrazos said:

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KaiBear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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KaiBear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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KaiBear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Porteroso said:

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whiterock said:

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Back to the topic of the thread.... The purpose of tariffs is to protect jobs and strategic industries from unfair competition. When properly done, it looks like this:

🚨 BREAKING: NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang just revealed he's manufacturing HALF A TRILLION DOLLARS worth of AI computing systems inside the United States of America, crediting President Trump

"I'm really grateful for his policies."

This is HUGE! 🔥🇺🇸pic.twitter.com/MXMiBXqorK

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) January 21, 2026

---

Trillions are on the line every time this businessman speaks. Are you actually thinking he is endorsing Trump's policies in general? Or maybe is he trying to get Trump to ease restrictions on his company?

Reminds me of the time our diplomats were coaching Russian diplomats on how to suck up to Trump. Which exact phrases he likes. Exactly which part of the boot to lick?

And of course Whiterock is all like "See, even the Russians think Trump deserves the Nobel Peace Prize!!!"

---

At this point they're saying nice things to avoid irrational action, and are moving some dirt around to say it's happening.

---

LOL


And Trump STILL hasn't found a cure for all cancers yet.

Knew I should have voted for Harris.

---

I think he already declared that accomplishment. It was on page 64 of the Self Affirmation Treatise.

---

Doesn't matter.

Harris was the correct choice.

An additional 30 million illegals is just what would benefit this country the most.

---

One hit wonder I guess.

---

Harris would have ended more wars
Would have reduced gasoline prices even lower
Reduced inflation to zero
Reduced crime in US cities with her obvious pro police philosophy.
Got NATO countries to spend more money toward their own defense.
Captured the Venezuelan dictator quicker.
Reduced fentanyl overdoses even more sharply
Eliminated lawfare against Christians much faster
And eliminated all the Somalia fraud on her first day in office

A brilliant woman; Harris would have been the much better choice.

Who could possibly doubt it ?.

---

not to nitpick but did Trump end the Somalian fraud.? the only reason we know about it is bc of a youtuber and I have yet to see any arrests made on that. Trump really needs to get his ass in gear and start arresting people. Bondi is not getting it done, kash patel is awful, bongino was a failure etc. Trump talks a lot but he really is not cleaning up the swamp and meanwhile the rino repubs just passed another $5 billion in aid to migrants to they can do more fraud.

And when we vote against this minibus containing the $5 billion refugee welfare program, some will say “why aren’t you supporting the President?!” https://t.co/ukbHZTjZqC

— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) January 21, 2026

Rand and Massie are two fo the best republicans and Trump wants Massie kicked out of office.

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They are not Republicans. They are Libertarians who ran for office as Republicans.

Ron and Rand Paul are kooks. Get past the sound bites and into the details.

Most importantly, they throw tantrums because spending bills are "good" getting 85% of what they want and not "great" getting 100%. Of course they ignore that the Great version has 0% chance of passing with Northern Republican Congressional member support. People who throw tantrums about getting good after a long history of bad are a special kind of stupid. No one turns an aircraft carrier on a dime. Maybe take the win and focus on stacking wins.

muddybrazos said:

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KaiBear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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KaiBear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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KaiBear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Porteroso said:

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whiterock said:

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Back to the topic of the thread.... The purpose of tariffs is to protect jobs and strategic industries from unfair competition. When properly done, it looks like this:

🚨 BREAKING: NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang just revealed he's manufacturing HALF A TRILLION DOLLARS worth of AI computing systems inside the United States of America, crediting President Trump

"I'm really grateful for his policies."

This is HUGE! 🔥🇺🇸pic.twitter.com/MXMiBXqorK

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) January 21, 2026

---

Trillions are on the line every time this businessman speaks. Are you actually thinking he is endorsing Trump's policies in general? Or maybe is he trying to get Trump to ease restrictions on his company?

Reminds me of the time our diplomats were coaching Russian diplomats on how to suck up to Trump. Which exact phrases he likes. Exactly which part of the boot to lick?

And of course Whiterock is all like "See, even the Russians think Trump deserves the Nobel Peace Prize!!!"

---

At this point they're saying nice things to avoid irrational action, and are moving some dirt around to say it's happening.

---

LOL


And Trump STILL hasn't found a cure for all cancers yet.

Knew I should have voted for Harris.

---

I think he already declared that accomplishment. It was on page 64 of the Self Affirmation Treatise.

---

Doesn't matter.

Harris was the correct choice.

An additional 30 million illegals is just what would benefit this country the most.

---

One hit wonder I guess.

---

Harris would have ended more wars
Would have reduced gasoline prices even lower
Reduced inflation to zero
Reduced crime in US cities with her obvious pro police philosophy.
Got NATO countries to spend more money toward their own defense.
Captured the Venezuelan dictator quicker.
Reduced fentanyl overdoses even more sharply
Eliminated lawfare against Christians much faster
And eliminated all the Somalia fraud on her first day in office

A brilliant woman; Harris would have been the much better choice.

Who could possibly doubt it ?.

---

not to nitpick but did Trump end the Somalian fraud.? the only reason we know about it is bc of a youtuber and I have yet to see any arrests made on that. Trump really needs to get his ass in gear and start arresting people. Bondi is not getting it done, kash patel is awful, bongino was a failure etc. Trump talks a lot but he really is not cleaning up the swamp and meanwhile the rino repubs just passed another $5 billion in aid to migrants to they can do more fraud.

And when we vote against this minibus containing the $5 billion refugee welfare program, some will say “why aren’t you supporting the President?!” https://t.co/ukbHZTjZqC

— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) January 21, 2026

Rand and Massie are two fo the best republicans and Trump wants Massie kicked out of office.

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LOL

Exactly how many hours in a day are there ? Or does Trump somehow get an additional 12 hours ?

The guy has been multi tasking like no one I have ever seen.

Give him a few weeks…..watch for the arrests and prosecutions to follow.

Dems have been stealing from taxpayers for years…..using the money to reward their constituents. California, Illinois and New York fraud is going to make the Somalia nightmare look like nothing .

Adriacus Peratuun said:

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muddybrazos said:

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KaiBear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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KaiBear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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KaiBear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Porteroso said:

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whiterock said:

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Back to the topic of the thread.... The purpose of tariffs is to protect jobs and strategic industries from unfair competition. When properly done, it looks like this:

🚨 BREAKING: NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang just revealed he's manufacturing HALF A TRILLION DOLLARS worth of AI computing systems inside the United States of America, crediting President Trump

"I'm really grateful for his policies."

This is HUGE! 🔥🇺🇸pic.twitter.com/MXMiBXqorK

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) January 21, 2026

---

Trillions are on the line every time this businessman speaks. Are you actually thinking he is endorsing Trump's policies in general? Or maybe is he trying to get Trump to ease restrictions on his company?

Reminds me of the time our diplomats were coaching Russian diplomats on how to suck up to Trump. Which exact phrases he likes. Exactly which part of the boot to lick?

And of course Whiterock is all like "See, even the Russians think Trump deserves the Nobel Peace Prize!!!"

---

At this point they're saying nice things to avoid irrational action, and are moving some dirt around to say it's happening.

---

LOL


And Trump STILL hasn't found a cure for all cancers yet.

Knew I should have voted for Harris.

---

I think he already declared that accomplishment. It was on page 64 of the Self Affirmation Treatise.

---

Doesn't matter.

Harris was the correct choice.

An additional 30 million illegals is just what would benefit this country the most.

---

One hit wonder I guess.

---

Harris would have ended more wars
Would have reduced gasoline prices even lower
Reduced inflation to zero
Reduced crime in US cities with her obvious pro police philosophy.
Got NATO countries to spend more money toward their own defense.
Captured the Venezuelan dictator quicker.
Reduced fentanyl overdoses even more sharply
Eliminated lawfare against Christians much faster
And eliminated all the Somalia fraud on her first day in office

A brilliant woman; Harris would have been the much better choice.

Who could possibly doubt it ?.

---

not to nitpick but did Trump end the Somalian fraud.? the only reason we know about it is bc of a youtuber and I have yet to see any arrests made on that. Trump really needs to get his ass in gear and start arresting people. Bondi is not getting it done, kash patel is awful, bongino was a failure etc. Trump talks a lot but he really is not cleaning up the swamp and meanwhile the rino repubs just passed another $5 billion in aid to migrants to they can do more fraud.

And when we vote against this minibus containing the $5 billion refugee welfare program, some will say “why aren’t you supporting the President?!” https://t.co/ukbHZTjZqC

— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) January 21, 2026

Rand and Massie are two fo the best republicans and Trump wants Massie kicked out of office.

---

They are not Republicans. They are Libertarians who ran for office as Republicans.

Ron and Rand Paul are kooks. Get past the sound bites and into the details.

Most importantly, they throw tantrums because spending bills are "good" getting 85% of what they want and not "great" getting 100%. Of course they ignore that the Great version has 0% chance of passing with Northern Republican Congressional member support. People who throw tantrums about getting good after a long history of bad are a special kind of stupid. No one turns an aircraft carrier on a dime. Maybe take the win and focus on stacking wins.

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Well, I like Ron and Rand Paul and I want to audit the fed and end income taxes. I hate all of the fraud waste and abuse that goes into these monster spending bills. We are just held hostage by our govt over taxes.

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whiterock said:

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J.R. said:

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whiterock said:

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J.R. said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Yup. I’m a Reagan Republican who knows tariffs are a tax on American consumers. Article One in the Constitution gives this authority to Congress and we need to reclaim it. https://t.co/caUtJfMFN8

— Rep. Don Bacon 🇺🇸✈️🏍️⭐️🎖️ (@RepDonBacon) January 21, 2026

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he is correct and has some stones, unlike the rest of the R's meows. disgusting. There is NO Republican Party anymore, just a bunch of Redneck Magaturds.

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Oh Donald, there you go trolling everyone again.

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speaking of non thinking maga turds. making Merca suck on the world's stage. Gold Standard. Hell effing no.

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LOL you just can stand it when he causes good things to happen.

Trump has SLASHED the U.S. trade deficit in half in under a year.

Now, that's an accomplishment!

All we needed was a new president.
pic.twitter.com/3CqqDaUbdn

— Mila Joy (@Milajoy) January 22, 2026

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As long as the rest of the economy holds, it should be a positive.

Can you share with us the other metrics? Such as, Manufacturing levels, Sector reports and overall GDP?

I prefer you to provide the information, if I do it you will just not like the source.

How is the whole picture?

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That data has been provided piecemeal over and over on multiple threads.

the whole picture is that Trump inherited an economy in recession due to a range of bad economic and fiscal policies of not just his successors, but an old and feeble bi-partisan policy regime (globalism) at the end of its useful life. He did not get his full program in place until August. Almost immediately, we saw incremental improvements in trendlines of federal deficits, trade deficits, wages, and massive investments line up to build new manufacturing facilities. The whole point of it all was to transition away from a trading economy to a production economy. That will not happen in a quarter or three. It takes years to build new manufacturing facilities. The construction phase is just now getting started. So we can expect to see improvement not only continue, but accelerate. We will see stunning GDP numbers due to the massive investments pouring in from abroad. Jobs will follow that. Next, we will see improvement in manufacturing numbers.

Copy & paste that to your screen and lets look at it a year from now.

This is an expectations game. You and ATL and many others just wanted tweaks to the old model. That is not what we need. And it's not what we're going to get. It's an entirely new policy regime from here. Globalism as you have known it is dead. Get over it. Move on. Build a plant. Make something. Sell it, preferably a lot of it abroad. We need trade surpluses for a while. The policies needed for that to happen are in place now. The only question is whether you get on the train or complain about missing it.

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Yup. I’m a Reagan Republican who knows tariffs are a tax on American consumers. Article One in the Constitution gives this authority to Congress and we need to reclaim it. https://t.co/caUtJfMFN8

— Rep. Don Bacon 🇺🇸✈️🏍️⭐️🎖️ (@RepDonBacon) January 21, 2026

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he is correct and has some stones, unlike the rest of the R's meows. disgusting. There is NO Republican Party anymore, just a bunch of Redneck Magaturds.

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Oh Donald, there you go trolling everyone again.

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speaking of non thinking maga turds. making Merca suck on the world's stage. Gold Standard. Hell effing no.

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LOL you just can stand it when he causes good things to happen.

Trump has SLASHED the U.S. trade deficit in half in under a year.

Now, that's an accomplishment!

All we needed was a new president.
pic.twitter.com/3CqqDaUbdn

— Mila Joy (@Milajoy) January 22, 2026

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The deficit went from 2tn to 1.7tn. I was not a math major but I believe you posted more cheerleader BS.