Trans women (or men) have been around forever

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Harrison Bergeron said:

1. It's not happening
2. lIt's only a few instances
3. it's happening and it's a good thing
4. HATE

5. Serena Williams could beat some men in tennis so that proves there is no biological advantage
Jack Bauer
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Assassin said:



We need scientific studies to prove men are stronger than women!!!!

Study:
Harrison Bergeron
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Jack Bauer said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

1. It's not happening
2. lIt's only a few instances
3. it's happening and it's a good thing
4. HATE

5. Serena Williams could beat some men in tennis so that proves there is no biological advantage


Me or you but not pro.
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Jack Bauer said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

1. It's not happening
2. lIt's only a few instances
3. it's happening and it's a good thing
4. HATE

5. Serena Williams could beat some men in tennis so that proves there is no biological advantage


Me or you but not pro.

#5 is actually an argument made by the Human Rights Chairman on the Senate Testimony. If you disagree, then you are hateful.



Jack Bauer
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Harrison Bergeron said:

1. It's not happening
2. lIt's only a few instances
3. it's happening and it's a good thing
4. HATE

Exactly..it only happened in 5 HS State track championships.




Jack Bauer
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Harrison Bergeron said:

1. It's not happening
2. lIt's only a few instances
3. it's happening and it's a good thing
4. HATE

#4

Harrison Bergeron
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I'll say it for the 1,000 time ... such a weird hill for the LWNJs to die on.
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I think this is what the blue states are going to try to do to get around Trump's threat...

let the boys compete but reflect the girls standings without him...

Jack Bauer
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This is a WNBA superstar vs some random kid.

Harrison Bergeron
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Jack Bauer said:

This is a WNBA superstar vs some random kid.


A buddy and I constantly joke that we cannot believe some WNBA team has not signed a bunch of dudes and just dominate the league.
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Jack Bauer said:





Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Jack Bauer said:

This is a WNBA superstar vs some random kid.


A buddy and I constantly joke that we cannot believe some WNBA team has not signed a bunch of dudes and just dominate the league.
I can't wait to see what the WNBA does when some dude who is about a D3 level basketball player identifies as a woman and wants to play. He would absolutely wreck shop. It would be the beginning of the end of a women's league. But they're all so woke they won't want to stop it. Surely it's only a matter of time.
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Robert Wilson said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Jack Bauer said:

This is a WNBA superstar vs some random kid.


A buddy and I constantly joke that we cannot believe some WNBA team has not signed a bunch of dudes and just dominate the league.
I can't wait to see what the WNBA does when some dude who is about a D3 level basketball player identifies as a woman and wants to play. He would absolutely wreck shop. It would be the beginning of the end of a women's league. But they're all so woke they won't want to stop it. Surely it's only a matter of time.
That's ultimately what it will take. Right now, the dudes in college and high school sports does not impact powerful enough people - the Gaystapo is maybe the most powerful special interest group. Get some dudes beating the crap out of WNBA women, tennis, golf, etc., and the anti-science crowd will be forced to pay attention.
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Jack Bauer said:

Assassin said:



Left - "It's only a miniscule number compared to the total number of athletes"

Translation - Tough ****, girls.



It doesn't matter how many there are, every single cheater should be prevented from cheating & punished for trying. No women or girls should ever be put in a position in which their physical well being is clearly threatened by someone competing against her. No one should lie about anything, especially something that is hired and always has been, especially people in positions of authority when their lies will place some people under their responsibility in serious jeopardy. The leaders of these sports leagues, including the NCAA & Olympic committee, should be imprisoned for their crimes too.

Why do the fascists have so much difficulty understanding something that's blatantly obvious? It's because they cannot deal with reality.
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Is woke dead?

https://notthebee.com/article/is-woke-officially-dead-check-out-all-these-corporations-that-havent-done-their-duty-to-the-gays-this-pride-month
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Harrison Bergeron said:

I'll say it for the 1,000 time ... such a weird hill for the LWNJs to die on.
The enemy is the great deceiver.
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J.R. said:

I have a very good friend who would be referred to as Trans. Anatomically female , but identifies as "they". No surgeries . One of the best hearted human you can meet. Why some of you sweat the small stuff is baffling to me. (fear) If people would actually take the time to meet and have discussions with someone who identifies as Trans you may have a better understanding of their situation. It changed my perception. Not all Trans folks want their pecker cut off and wants to participate in women's sport (which I'm aginn). We have bigger fish to fry in this country.


Perfect example of a luxury belief. You believe your "tolerance" on this confers elite status, and can afford to do so because you are completely insulated from the costs of the belief. It doesn't affect you, so pfft to anyone who is. "Let them eat cake."

You would feel differently if your daughter was injured competing against a biological male pretending to be a woman, or missed out on a scholarship due to a loss to a biological male pretending to be a woman, etc….

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/luxury-beliefs-that-only-the-privileged-can-afford-7f6b8a16?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=ASWzDAhd5CanmIiiB3CyUGwqMGOWlriPtfHpCq4KERHmsBdfVbCWi36kmQws&gaa_ts=683e236c&gaa_sig=mojBRfosch182AhLOWdauIy0WmXf-Sp29-dsyNSmg52MTEg9WorCkbTqAFvXxYy9nV5rWzfVY1D0AjEzvB9Fsw%3D%3D

We do not have "bigger fish to fry" than this. The trans agenda does harm to trans folks. Real women are harmed as well. And all of us are harmed when we are compelled to engage in delusions of others or risk cancellation & worse.

The trans agenda is Lysenkoism at grand scale.
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whiterock said:

J.R. said:

I have a very good friend who would be referred to as Trans. Anatomically female , but identifies as "they". No surgeries . One of the best hearted human you can meet. Why some of you sweat the small stuff is baffling to me. (fear) If people would actually take the time to meet and have discussions with someone who identifies as Trans you may have a better understanding of their situation. It changed my perception. Not all Trans folks want their pecker cut off and wants to participate in women's sport (which I'm aginn). We have bigger fish to fry in this country.


Perfect example of a luxury belief. You believe your "tolerance" on this confers elite status, and can afford to do so because you are completely insulated from the costs of the belief. It doesn't affect you, so pfft to anyone who is. "Let them eat cake."

You would feel differently if your daughter was injured competing against a biological male pretending to be a woman, or missed out on a scholarship due to a loss to a biological male pretending to be a woman, etc….

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/luxury-beliefs-that-only-the-privileged-can-afford-7f6b8a16?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=ASWzDAhd5CanmIiiB3CyUGwqMGOWlriPtfHpCq4KERHmsBdfVbCWi36kmQws&gaa_ts=683e236c&gaa_sig=mojBRfosch182AhLOWdauIy0WmXf-Sp29-dsyNSmg52MTEg9WorCkbTqAFvXxYy9nV5rWzfVY1D0AjEzvB9Fsw%3D%3D

We do not have "bigger fish to fry" than this. The trans agenda does harm to trans folks. Real women are harmed as well. And all of us are harmed when we are compelled to engage in delusions of others or risk cancellation & worse.

The trans agenda is Lysenkoism at grand scale.
Had to look that one up...
"An unexamined life is not worth living." - Socrates
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whiterock said:

J.R. said:

I have a very good friend who would be referred to as Trans. Anatomically female , but identifies as "they". No surgeries . One of the best hearted human you can meet. Why some of you sweat the small stuff is baffling to me. (fear) If people would actually take the time to meet and have discussions with someone who identifies as Trans you may have a better understanding of their situation. It changed my perception. Not all Trans folks want their pecker cut off and wants to participate in women's sport (which I'm aginn). We have bigger fish to fry in this country.


Perfect example of a luxury belief. You believe your "tolerance" on this confers elite status, and can afford to do so because you are completely insulated from the costs of the belief. It doesn't affect you, so pfft to anyone who is. "Let them eat cake."

You would feel differently if your daughter was injured competing against a biological male pretending to be a woman, or missed out on a scholarship due to a loss to a biological male pretending to be a woman, etc….

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/luxury-beliefs-that-only-the-privileged-can-afford-7f6b8a16?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=ASWzDAhd5CanmIiiB3CyUGwqMGOWlriPtfHpCq4KERHmsBdfVbCWi36kmQws&gaa_ts=683e236c&gaa_sig=mojBRfosch182AhLOWdauIy0WmXf-Sp29-dsyNSmg52MTEg9WorCkbTqAFvXxYy9nV5rWzfVY1D0AjEzvB9Fsw%3D%3D

We do not have "bigger fish to fry" than this. The trans agenda does harm to trans folks. Real women are harmed as well. And all of us are harmed when we are compelled to engage in delusions of others or risk cancellation & worse.

The trans agenda is Lysenkoism at grand scale.

"These girls have been training their whole lives only to be beaten by a man...but screw them because I have a trans friend!"
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jbbear said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

I'll say it for the 1,000 time ... such a weird hill for the LWNJs to die on.
The enemy is the great deceiver.

The "Father of lies"
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whiterock said:

J.R. said:

I have a very good friend who would be referred to as Trans. Anatomically female , but identifies as "they". No surgeries . One of the best hearted human you can meet. Why some of you sweat the small stuff is baffling to me. (fear) If people would actually take the time to meet and have discussions with someone who identifies as Trans you may have a better understanding of their situation. It changed my perception. Not all Trans folks want their pecker cut off and wants to participate in women's sport (which I'm aginn). We have bigger fish to fry in this country.


Perfect example of a luxury belief. You believe your "tolerance" on this confers elite status, and can afford to do so because you are completely insulated from the costs of the belief. It doesn't affect you, so pfft to anyone who is. "Let them eat cake."

You would feel differently if your daughter was injured competing against a biological male pretending to be a woman, or missed out on a scholarship due to a loss to a biological male pretending to be a woman, etc….

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/luxury-beliefs-that-only-the-privileged-can-afford-7f6b8a16?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=ASWzDAhd5CanmIiiB3CyUGwqMGOWlriPtfHpCq4KERHmsBdfVbCWi36kmQws&gaa_ts=683e236c&gaa_sig=mojBRfosch182AhLOWdauIy0WmXf-Sp29-dsyNSmg52MTEg9WorCkbTqAFvXxYy9nV5rWzfVY1D0AjEzvB9Fsw%3D%3D

We do not have "bigger fish to fry" than this. The trans agenda does harm to trans folks. Real women are harmed as well. And all of us are harmed when we are compelled to engage in delusions of others or risk cancellation & worse.

The trans agenda is Lysenkoism at grand scale.

Any agenda, movement, etc based upon lies is by definition fraudulent and harmful to everyone. They cannot be justified on any level and are doomed to failure. But many innocents will be harmed or even killed along the way. That clearly shows how evil they are.

Ruthless dictators pushing some form of socialism killed well over 100 million people in the 20th century. The trans cult & climate cult are two modern versions of cultural Marxism along the same lines.
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Assassin said:

whiterock said:

J.R. said:

I have a very good friend who would be referred to as Trans. Anatomically female , but identifies as "they". No surgeries . One of the best hearted human you can meet. Why some of you sweat the small stuff is baffling to me. (fear) If people would actually take the time to meet and have discussions with someone who identifies as Trans you may have a better understanding of their situation. It changed my perception. Not all Trans folks want their pecker cut off and wants to participate in women's sport (which I'm aginn). We have bigger fish to fry in this country.


Perfect example of a luxury belief. You believe your "tolerance" on this confers elite status, and can afford to do so because you are completely insulated from the costs of the belief. It doesn't affect you, so pfft to anyone who is. "Let them eat cake."

You would feel differently if your daughter was injured competing against a biological male pretending to be a woman, or missed out on a scholarship due to a loss to a biological male pretending to be a woman, etc….

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/luxury-beliefs-that-only-the-privileged-can-afford-7f6b8a16?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=ASWzDAhd5CanmIiiB3CyUGwqMGOWlriPtfHpCq4KERHmsBdfVbCWi36kmQws&gaa_ts=683e236c&gaa_sig=mojBRfosch182AhLOWdauIy0WmXf-Sp29-dsyNSmg52MTEg9WorCkbTqAFvXxYy9nV5rWzfVY1D0AjEzvB9Fsw%3D%3D

We do not have "bigger fish to fry" than this. The trans agenda does harm to trans folks. Real women are harmed as well. And all of us are harmed when we are compelled to engage in delusions of others or risk cancellation & worse.

The trans agenda is Lysenkoism at grand scale.
Had to look that one up...
He had a theory and put it into policy. It failed. So he blamed the Kulaks, and tweaked the policy to punish them. It failed. So he blamed the wholesalers, and tweaked the policy to punish them. It failed. So he blamed......

Collectivists never blame their ideology. They always blame something else for sabotaging the ideology.
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The Leftists are too arrogant to admit they are wrong although they are almost always wrong. On everything. Do they became more bitter & angry & tyrannical. In the 20th century they killed over 100 million innocent people.

And some still pretend that socialism is not evil!
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historian said:

The Leftists are too arrogant to admit they are wrong although they are almost always wrong. On everything. Do they became more bitter & angry & tyrannical. In the 20th century they killed over 100 million innocent people.

And some still pretend that socialism is not evil!



They pretend that empathy, or professed empathy, for some particular "oppressed" person is the highest and best value, and is not to be weighed against anything else. So, even if their policies do not work or worse, create a lot of damage, they still believe that they are a good person who was right anyway. They're not as concerned with actual aggregate results as they are being able to profess empathy for fill-in-the-blank.
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Yes, everything with the Left is fake: fake news, fake president, fake pardons, fake men, fake women, fake marriages, fake peace, fake budget cuts, fake justice, fake rights, fake citizens, fake votes, etc. They even had a fake impeachment!
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J.R. said:

I have a very good friend who would be referred to as Trans. Anatomically female , but identifies as "they". No surgeries . One of the best hearted human you can meet. Why some of you sweat the small stuff is baffling to me. (fear) If people would actually take the time to meet and have discussions with someone who identifies as Trans you may have a better understanding of their situation. It changed my perception. Not all Trans folks want their pecker cut off and wants to participate in women's sport (which I'm aginn). We have bigger fish to fry in this country.
One of my best friend's daughter came out as male a few years ago. Sweet girl, who grew up around my children, but was tall, a bit awkward and as such, the boys had little interest. Growing up, I suspected she was lesbian. Ended up at A&M (of all places) a few years ago, and came home to announce she was now male, would be referred to by a male name, and was on hormone therapy and in the process of exploring transitional surgery. Two years ago, she had her breasts removed.

Fast forward to a few months ago, and she ends up trying to kill herself from the regret and remorse she started to experience a few years into living as a man. Thankfully, since then she's found Christ, and is in the process of de-transitioning. Going to require surgeries and hormone therapy, but the damage is irreversible. She will never be the same. This is the end result of the state our society finds itself in. When the anorexic person struggles with an eating disorder, do we tell her to go get her stomach stapled and lipo? Of course not. We treat the mental illness so we can restore the person's mental faculties and save their lives. Yet, when it comes to gender dysphoria, we tell the person experiencing it to mutilate their bodies and do irreversible damage to it. It's bat **** crazy.

For the record, I have nothing but sympathy for people like my friend's daughter. Like your friend, she a nice person, and I hate the damage that has been wrought on her body by the medical community. But it doesn't make what she did any less wrong and immoral.
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Mothra said:

J.R. said:

I have a very good friend who would be referred to as Trans. Anatomically female , but identifies as "they". No surgeries . One of the best hearted human you can meet. Why some of you sweat the small stuff is baffling to me. (fear) If people would actually take the time to meet and have discussions with someone who identifies as Trans you may have a better understanding of their situation. It changed my perception. Not all Trans folks want their pecker cut off and wants to participate in women's sport (which I'm aginn). We have bigger fish to fry in this country.
One of my best friend's daughter came out as male a few years ago. Sweet girl, who grew up around my children, but was tall, a bit awkward and as such, the boys had little interest. Growing up, I suspected she was lesbian. Ended up at A&M (of all places) a few years ago, and came home to announce she was now male, would be referred to by a male name, and was on hormone therapy and in the process of exploring transitional surgery. Two years ago, she had her breasts removed.

Fast forward to a few months ago, and she ends up trying to kill herself from the regret and remorse she started to experience a few years into living as a man. Thankfully, since then she's found Christ, and is in the process of de-transitioning. Going to require surgeries and hormone therapy, but the damage is irreversible. She will never be the same. This is the end result of the state our society finds itself in. When the anorexic person struggles with an eating disorder, do we tell her to go get her stomach stapled and lipo? Of course not. We treat the mental illness so we can restore the person's mental faculties and save their lives. Yet, when it comes to gender dysphoria, we tell the person experiencing it to mutilate their bodies and do irreversible damage to it. It's bat **** crazy.

For the record, I have nothing but sympathy for people like my friend's daughter. Like your friend, she a nice person, and I hate the damage that has been wrought on her body by the medical community. But it doesn't make what she did any less wrong and immoral.


Thanks for sharing. It's amazing how Big Pharma and other special interests have convinced anyone that children should be subjected to elective, irreversible surgery and treatment without proper mental health counseling. There are going to be tens of thousands of stories like this on the coming years. I feel terrible for these kids being used as pawns.
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Mothra said:

J.R. said:

I have a very good friend who would be referred to as Trans. Anatomically female , but identifies as "they". No surgeries . One of the best hearted human you can meet. Why some of you sweat the small stuff is baffling to me. (fear) If people would actually take the time to meet and have discussions with someone who identifies as Trans you may have a better understanding of their situation. It changed my perception. Not all Trans folks want their pecker cut off and wants to participate in women's sport (which I'm aginn). We have bigger fish to fry in this country.
One of my best friend's daughter came out as male a few years ago. Sweet girl, who grew up around my children, but was tall, a bit awkward and as such, the boys had little interest. Growing up, I suspected she was lesbian. Ended up at A&M (of all places) a few years ago, and came home to announce she was now male, would be referred to by a male name, and was on hormone therapy and in the process of exploring transitional surgery. Two years ago, she had her breasts removed.

Fast forward to a few months ago, and she ends up trying to kill herself from the regret and remorse she started to experience a few years into living as a man. Thankfully, since then she's found Christ, and is in the process of de-transitioning. Going to require surgeries and hormone therapy, but the damage is irreversible. She will never be the same. This is the end result of the state our society finds itself in. When the anorexic person struggles with an eating disorder, do we tell her to go get her stomach stapled and lipo? Of course not. We treat the mental illness so we can restore the person's mental faculties and save their lives. Yet, when it comes to gender dysphoria, we tell the person experiencing it to mutilate their bodies and do irreversible damage to it. It's bat **** crazy.

For the record, I have nothing but sympathy for people like my friend's daughter. Like your friend, she a nice person, and I hate the damage that has been wrought on her body by the medical community. But it doesn't make what she did any less wrong and immoral.

Such a sad story but thankfully with a happy ending: she found Christ and is healing. We definitely need to pray for her and others like her.
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J.R. said:

I have a very good friend who would be referred to as Trans. Anatomically female , but identifies as "they". No surgeries . One of the best hearted human you can meet. Why some of you sweat the small stuff is baffling to me. (fear) If people would actually take the time to meet and have discussions with someone who identifies as Trans you may have a better understanding of their situation. It changed my perception. Not all Trans folks want their pecker cut off and wants to participate in women's sport (which I'm aginn). We have bigger fish to fry in this country.

That's an important point: those suffering from gender dysphoria need compassion and understanding. They also need prayers.
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historian said:

J.R. said:

I have a very good friend who would be referred to as Trans. Anatomically female , but identifies as "they". No surgeries . One of the best hearted human you can meet. Why some of you sweat the small stuff is baffling to me. (fear) If people would actually take the time to meet and have discussions with someone who identifies as Trans you may have a better understanding of their situation. It changed my perception. Not all Trans folks want their pecker cut off and wants to participate in women's sport (which I'm aginn). We have bigger fish to fry in this country.

That's an important point: those suffering from gender dysphoria need compassion and understanding. They also need prayers.


And a classic motte and bailey.
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whiterock said:

J.R. said:

I have a very good friend who would be referred to as Trans. Anatomically female , but identifies as "they". No surgeries . One of the best hearted human you can meet. Why some of you sweat the small stuff is baffling to me. (fear) If people would actually take the time to meet and have discussions with someone who identifies as Trans you may have a better understanding of their situation. It changed my perception. Not all Trans folks want their pecker cut off and wants to participate in women's sport (which I'm aginn). We have bigger fish to fry in this country.


Perfect example of a luxury belief. You believe your "tolerance" on this confers elite status, and can afford to do so because you are completely insulated from the costs of the belief. It doesn't affect you, so pfft to anyone who is. "Let them eat cake."

You would feel differently if your daughter was injured competing against a biological male pretending to be a woman, or missed out on a scholarship due to a loss to a biological male pretending to be a woman, etc….

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/luxury-beliefs-that-only-the-privileged-can-afford-7f6b8a16?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=ASWzDAhd5CanmIiiB3CyUGwqMGOWlriPtfHpCq4KERHmsBdfVbCWi36kmQws&gaa_ts=683e236c&gaa_sig=mojBRfosch182AhLOWdauIy0WmXf-Sp29-dsyNSmg52MTEg9WorCkbTqAFvXxYy9nV5rWzfVY1D0AjEzvB9Fsw%3D%3D

We do not have "bigger fish to fry" than this. The trans agenda does harm to trans folks. Real women are harmed as well. And all of us are harmed when we are compelled to engage in delusions of others or risk cancellation & worse.

The trans agenda is Lysenkoism at grand scale.
Luxury belief??? I don't even know what that is. I'm not really sure what you mean by that one. Insulated? I think not. It does affect me as it impacts my friend. My kids played high level sports all through HS and never, ever ran into this problem relative to competing against different sexes. On a percentage basis, we damn sure do have bigger fish to fry in this country. Let's just start with the debt ole Trumpy wants to add to in a severe way and the R's have shown NO balls, no principles as so-called conservatives. Let's start there. watdoyasay. I'm on record hear saying that I'm Fiscally Conservative and Socially Progressive. That's just me and don't try to sway people to my beliefs and do not feel the need to justify my stance. Instead of being a hater, I try to find the good in all people of all racists, creeds, religion , non religious as long as they don't hurt others. I'm not judge or jury as that isn't my job.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxury_belief

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Mothra said:

J.R. said:

I have a very good friend who would be referred to as Trans. Anatomically female , but identifies as "they". No surgeries . One of the best hearted human you can meet. Why some of you sweat the small stuff is baffling to me. (fear) If people would actually take the time to meet and have discussions with someone who identifies as Trans you may have a better understanding of their situation. It changed my perception. Not all Trans folks want their pecker cut off and wants to participate in women's sport (which I'm aginn). We have bigger fish to fry in this country.
One of my best friend's daughter came out as male a few years ago. Sweet girl, who grew up around my children, but was tall, a bit awkward and as such, the boys had little interest. Growing up, I suspected she was lesbian. Ended up at A&M (of all places) a few years ago, and came home to announce she was now male, would be referred to by a male name, and was on hormone therapy and in the process of exploring transitional surgery. Two years ago, she had her breasts removed.

Fast forward to a few months ago, and she ends up trying to kill herself from the regret and remorse she started to experience a few years into living as a man. Thankfully, since then she's found Christ, and is in the process of de-transitioning. Going to require surgeries and hormone therapy, but the damage is irreversible. She will never be the same. This is the end result of the state our society finds itself in. When the anorexic person struggles with an eating disorder, do we tell her to go get her stomach stapled and lipo? Of course not. We treat the mental illness so we can restore the person's mental faculties and save their lives. Yet, when it comes to gender dysphoria, we tell the person experiencing it to mutilate their bodies and do irreversible damage to it. It's bat **** crazy.

For the record, I have nothing but sympathy for people like my friend's daughter. Like your friend, she a nice person, and I hate the damage that has been wrought on her body by the medical community. But it doesn't make what she did any less wrong and immoral.


Many such cases. Mostly it is kids who are late bloomers, awkward, maybe gay. Fortunately, most of them reverse field before they have done too much damage to their physical self. There is still typically a pretty good trail of damage. But the situations where they've done a lot of hormone therapy or undergone surgical procedures are truly tragic.

A deep irony running through it is that the people promoting this insanity are more harsh in enforcing gender stereotypes than any right wing conservative. A boy is a bit of feminine? Well, he must be a girl. A girl is a little butch or tomboyish? Well, she must be a boy. And now let's send them off on a dangerous wild goose chase.
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J.R. said:

whiterock said:

J.R. said:

I have a very good friend who would be referred to as Trans. Anatomically female , but identifies as "they". No surgeries . One of the best hearted human you can meet. Why some of you sweat the small stuff is baffling to me. (fear) If people would actually take the time to meet and have discussions with someone who identifies as Trans you may have a better understanding of their situation. It changed my perception. Not all Trans folks want their pecker cut off and wants to participate in women's sport (which I'm aginn). We have bigger fish to fry in this country.


Perfect example of a luxury belief. You believe your "tolerance" on this confers elite status, and can afford to do so because you are completely insulated from the costs of the belief. It doesn't affect you, so pfft to anyone who is. "Let them eat cake."

You would feel differently if your daughter was injured competing against a biological male pretending to be a woman, or missed out on a scholarship due to a loss to a biological male pretending to be a woman, etc….

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/luxury-beliefs-that-only-the-privileged-can-afford-7f6b8a16?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=ASWzDAhd5CanmIiiB3CyUGwqMGOWlriPtfHpCq4KERHmsBdfVbCWi36kmQws&gaa_ts=683e236c&gaa_sig=mojBRfosch182AhLOWdauIy0WmXf-Sp29-dsyNSmg52MTEg9WorCkbTqAFvXxYy9nV5rWzfVY1D0AjEzvB9Fsw%3D%3D

We do not have "bigger fish to fry" than this. The trans agenda does harm to trans folks. Real women are harmed as well. And all of us are harmed when we are compelled to engage in delusions of others or risk cancellation & worse.

The trans agenda is Lysenkoism at grand scale.
Luxury belief??? I don't even know what that is. I'm not really sure what you mean by that one. Insulated? I think not. It does affect me as it impacts my friend. My kids played high level sports all through HS and never, ever ran into this problem relative to competing against different sexes. On a percentage basis, we damn sure do have bigger fish to fry in this country. Let's just start with the debt ole Trumpy wants to add to in a severe way and the R's have shown NO balls, no principles as so-called conservatives. Let's start there. watdoyasay. I'm on record hear saying that I'm Fiscally Conservative and Socially Progressive. That's just me and don't try to sway people to my beliefs and do not feel the need to justify my stance. Instead of being a hater, I try to find the good in all people of all racists, creeds, religion , non religious as long as they don't hurt others. I'm not judge or jury as that isn't my job.


Agreed. Since this is an 80-20 issue, why is this a hill Democrats are obsessed with dying on? No one can answer that.
 
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