This has the feel of someone who wishes to ignore the Constitution and become a dictator.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-third-term-constitution-22nd-amendment-efba31be02ee96b0ef68b17fe89b7578

By CHRIS MEGERIAN
Updated 7:06 PM CDT, March 30, 2025

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. (AP) President Donald Trump said Sunday that "I'm not joking" about trying to serve a third term, the clearest indication he is considering ways to breach a constitutional barrier against continuing to lead the country after his second term ends at the beginning of 2029.
"There are methods which you could do it," Trump said in a telephone interview with NBC News from Mar-a-Lago, his private club.
He elaborated later to reporters on Air Force One from Florida to Washington that "I have had more people ask me to have a third term, which in a way is a fourth term because the other election, the 2020 election was totally rigged." Trump lost that election to Democrat Joe Biden.
Still, Trump added: "I don't want to talk about a third term now because no matter how you look at it, we've got a long time to go."
The 22nd Amendment, added to the Constitution in 1951 after President Franklin D. Roosevelt was elected four times in a row, says "no person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice."
Any attempt to remain in office would be legally suspect and it is unclear how seriously Trump might pursue the idea. The comments nonetheless were an extraordinary reflection of the desire to maintain power by a president who had violated democratic traditions four years ago when he tried to overturn the election he lost to Biden.

"This is yet another escalation in his clear effort to take over the government and dismantle our democracy," said a statement from Rep. Daniel Goldman, a New York Democrat who served as lead counsel for Trump's first impeachment. "If Congressional Republicans believe in the Constitution, they will go on the record opposing Trump's ambitions for a third term."


Steve Bannon, a former Trump strategist who runs the right-wing "War Room" podcast, called for the president to run again during a speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference last month.
"We want Trump in '28," he said.
Kayla Thompson, a 30-year-old former paralegal in Wisconsin, said she would "absolutely" like Trump to serve another term.
"America needs him. America is headed in the right direction and, if he doesn't do it, we're probably headed backwards," said Thompson, who was attending a campaign event Sunday with Elon Musk in Green Bay for a state Supreme Court race.
Jeremy Paul, a constitutional law professor at Boston's Northeastern University, said "there are no credible legal arguments for him to run for a third term."
NBC's Kristen Welker asked Trump if one potential avenue to a third term was having Vice President JD Vance run for the top job and "then pass the baton to you."
"Well, that's one," Trump responded. "But there are others too. There are others."
"Can you tell me another?" Welker asked.
"No," Trump replied.
Vance's office did not immediately respond to a request for comment from The Associated Press.
Derek Muller, a professor of election law at Notre Dame, noted that the 12th Amendment, which was ratified in 1804, says "no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."
Muller said that indicates that if Trump is not eligible to run for president again because of the 22nd Amendment, he is not eligible to run for vice president, either.
"I don't think there's any 'one weird trick' to getting around presidential term limits," Muller said.
In addition, pursuing a third term would require extraordinary acquiescence by federal and state officials, not to mention the courts and voters themselves.
He suggested that Trump is talking about a third term for political reasons to "show as much strength as possible."
"A lame-duck president like Donald Trump has every incentive in the world to make it seem like he's not a lame duck," he said.
Trump, who would be 82 at the end of his second term, was asked whether he would want to keep serving in "the toughest job in the country" at that point.
"Well, I like working," the president said.
Trump suggested that Americans would go along with a third term because of his popularity. He falsely claimed to have "the highest poll numbers of any Republican for the last 100 years."
Gallup data shows President George W. Bush reaching a 90% approval rating after the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001. His father, President George H.W. Bush, hit 89% following the Gulf War in 1991.
Trump has maxed out at 47% in Gallup data during his second term, despite claiming to be "in the high 70s in many polls, in the real polls."
Trump has mused before about serving longer than two terms before, generally with jokes to friendly audiences.
"Am I allowed to run again?" he said during a House Republican retreat in January.

Representatives for the congressional leadership House Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., House Democratic leader Hakeem Jeffries of New York, Senate Majority Leader John Thune, R-S.D., and Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer of New York did not immediately respond to requests for comment from the AP.
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Associated Press writers Tom Beaumont in Green Bay, Wisconsin, and Gary Fields in Washington contributed to this report.

This is just a Trump troll to melt the brains of people like you.

Trump loves to chum the waters with red herring for the blowfish to chase.

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Trump loves to chum the waters with red herring for the blowfish to chase.

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It is an alarming thing to say, especially after the Jan 6th incident.
He is not unifying the country by making such statements.

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Trump loves to chum the waters with red herring for the blowfish to chase.

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It is an alarming thing to say due to the number of people opposed to him, especially after the Jan 6th incident.
He is not unifying the country by making such statements.

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Agreed. I voted for Trump 3 times but am ready for him to move along in 2028. The magic from his first term seems to have all but vanished. I think the world this time has grown tired of his 800 lb. gorilla act and is not afraid to push back.

Guy Noir said:

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ABC BEAR said:

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Trump loves to chum the waters with red herring for the blowfish to chase.

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It is an alarming thing to say due to the number of people opposed to him, especially after the Jan 6th incident.
He is not unifying the country by making such statements.

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Fortunately millions more support him than are against him and he's deporting millions of those that are against him so the gap widens daily praise God

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Guy Noir said:

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ABC BEAR said:

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Trump loves to chum the waters with red herring for the blowfish to chase.

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It is an alarming thing to say due to the number of people opposed to him, especially after the Jan 6th incident.
He is not unifying the country by making such statements.

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Agreed. I voted for Trump 3 times but am ready for him to move along in 2028. The magic from his first term seems to have all but vanished. I think the world this time has grown tired of his 800 lb. gorilla act and is not afraid to push back.

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Shame you can't vote for Harris as an afterthought.

What's the troll? That he's not joking about pursuing a third term, or that lots of people are for it?

KaiBear said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Guy Noir said:

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ABC BEAR said:

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Trump loves to chum the waters with red herring for the blowfish to chase.

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It is an alarming thing to say due to the number of people opposed to him, especially after the Jan 6th incident.
He is not unifying the country by making such statements.

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Agreed. I voted for Trump 3 times but am ready for him to move along in 2028. The magic from his first term seems to have all but vanished. I think the world this time has grown tired of his 800 lb. gorilla act and is not afraid to push back.

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Shame you can't vote for Harris as an afterthought.

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Sadly, Harris, it appears would have done a much better job with the economy by doing nothing. I did not sign up for a world trade war or a President focused on annexation of sovereign nations.

So yeah, I am having some serious buyer's remorse. Would never have voted for Harris but probably would have stayed at home. But you just keep shaking those red, white, and blue pom poms and saying the word YES when it comes to anything Trump.

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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KaiBear said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Guy Noir said:

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ABC BEAR said:

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Trump loves to chum the waters with red herring for the blowfish to chase.

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It is an alarming thing to say due to the number of people opposed to him, especially after the Jan 6th incident.
He is not unifying the country by making such statements.

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Agreed. I voted for Trump 3 times but am ready for him to move along in 2028. The magic from his first term seems to have all but vanished. I think the world this time has grown tired of his 800 lb. gorilla act and is not afraid to push back.

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Shame you can't vote for Harris as an afterthought.

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Sadly, Harris, it appears would have done a much better job with the economy by doing nothing. I did not sign up for a world trade war or a President focused on annexation of sovereign nations.

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I would still vote Trump, but I am with you on the above. There's so much good he has done, that focusing on silly things like the above seem counter-productive.

The last thing I want to do is annex f'ing Canada. No thanks.

Zero chance Trump is serious about annexing Canada.

Zero chance Harris would have been a better president regardless of the issue.

Retaliatory tariffs are necessary as the United States economy can no longer afford to supplement the economic development of the rest of the world.

If costs temporarily go up on cars, Fruit Loops , or anything else it's a necessary evil.

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What's the troll? That he's not joking about pursuing a third term, or that lots of people are for it?

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I think the troll is he's just throwing that out there as bait. I have seen talk that he would run as VP to Vance and then Vance would allow him to basically the shadow president. I'm not sure why Vance would wanna do that but this all seems like conpiracy and trolling imo.

Long live the king.

Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss

Constitution means nothing anymore

KaiBear said:

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Zero chance Trump is serious about annexing Canada.

Zero chance Harris would have been a better president regardless of the issue.

Retaliatory tariffs are necessary as the United States economy can no longer afford to supplement the economic development of the rest of the world.

If costs temporarily go up on cars, Fruit Loops , or anything else it's a necessary evil.

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Except that the tariffs on vehicles are not retaliatory. They are instead designed to bring manufacturing jobs to the US.

And if they do go through, rest assured the costs will not be "temporary."

Mothra said:

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KaiBear said:

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Zero chance Trump is serious about annexing Canada.

Zero chance Harris would have been a better president regardless of the issue.

Retaliatory tariffs are necessary as the United States economy can no longer afford to supplement the economic development of the rest of the world.

If costs temporarily go up on cars, Fruit Loops , or anything else it's a necessary evil.

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Except that the tariffs on vehicles are not retaliatory. They are instead designed to bring manufacturing jobs to the US.

And if they do go through, rest assured the costs will not be "temporary."

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Yes sir I understand your position.

I WANT more good paying manufacturing jobs for Americans.

Not everyone can be a successful attorney or entrepreneur.

And I am willing to pay more for a car to bring this about.

KaiBear said:

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Mothra said:

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KaiBear said:

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Zero chance Trump is serious about annexing Canada.

Zero chance Harris would have been a better president regardless of the issue.

Retaliatory tariffs are necessary as the United States economy can no longer afford to supplement the economic development of the rest of the world.

If costs temporarily go up on cars, Fruit Loops , or anything else it's a necessary evil.

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Except that the tariffs on vehicles are not retaliatory. They are instead designed to bring manufacturing jobs to the US.

And if they do go through, rest assured the costs will not be "temporary."

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Yes sir I understand your position.

I WANT more good paying manufacturing jobs for Americans.

Not everyone can be a successful attorney or entrepreneur.

And I am willing to pay more for a car to bring this about.

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Glad you can pay more for items that most families need. Problem is, the vast majority of people won't be able to. New car sales are about to plummet, and dealerships will go out of business or start firing employees. Is having more manufacturing jobs in Detroit worth that cost?

Hey but at least we will have more people in the UAW, who are already ridiculously overpaid, making more money. Detroit will be happy and the unions ecstatic. Problem is, the rest of the country will suffer.

That's just not my position. Those are the facts.

I am curiously watching the economic information to see if the cuts by DOGE will significantly reduce the deficit. I realize that this will take some time to work through the system. I was disappointed that Congress required another continuing resolution to keep the government going. Hopefully the President and Congress will start to operate in a fiscally responsible manner sometime in the future.

KaiBear said:

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Mothra said:

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KaiBear said:

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Zero chance Trump is serious about annexing Canada.

Zero chance Harris would have been a better president regardless of the issue.

Retaliatory tariffs are necessary as the United States economy can no longer afford to supplement the economic development of the rest of the world.

If costs temporarily go up on cars, Fruit Loops , or anything else it's a necessary evil.

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Except that the tariffs on vehicles are not retaliatory. They are instead designed to bring manufacturing jobs to the US.

And if they do go through, rest assured the costs will not be "temporary."

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Yes sir I understand your position.

I WANT more good paying manufacturing jobs for Americans.

Not everyone can be a successful attorney or entrepreneur.

And I am willing to pay more for a car to bring this about.

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Thats great. How much extra did you voluntarily overpay for your last vehicle? You sir are a great American. I bet the dealer waa shocked when you threw in a couple thousand. Sounds like a great story.

Mothra said:

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KaiBear said:

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Mothra said:

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KaiBear said:

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Zero chance Trump is serious about annexing Canada.

Zero chance Harris would have been a better president regardless of the issue.

Retaliatory tariffs are necessary as the United States economy can no longer afford to supplement the economic development of the rest of the world.

If costs temporarily go up on cars, Fruit Loops , or anything else it's a necessary evil.

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Except that the tariffs on vehicles are not retaliatory. They are instead designed to bring manufacturing jobs to the US.

And if they do go through, rest assured the costs will not be "temporary."

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Yes sir I understand your position.

I WANT more good paying manufacturing jobs for Americans.

Not everyone can be a successful attorney or entrepreneur.

And I am willing to pay more for a car to bring this about.

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Glad you can pay more for items that most families need. Problem is, the vast majority of people won't be able to. New car sales are about to plummet, and dealerships will go out of business or start firing employees. Is having more manufacturing jobs in Detroit worth that cost?

Hey but at least we will have more people in the UAW, who are already ridiculously overpaid, making more money. Detroit will be happy and the unions ecstatic. Problem is, the rest of the country will suffer.

That's just not my position. Those are the facts.

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Yes sir.

Each and every poster on this free internet message board believes his opinions are factual. Even those who want open borders and legalized LSD.

Time will tell if Trump is correct.

However in the short term times will be tougher.
But we simply cannot continue ignoring economic, employment, and federal debt realities.

KaiBear said:

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Mothra said:

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KaiBear said:

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Mothra said:

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KaiBear said:

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Zero chance Trump is serious about annexing Canada.

Zero chance Harris would have been a better president regardless of the issue.

Retaliatory tariffs are necessary as the United States economy can no longer afford to supplement the economic development of the rest of the world.

If costs temporarily go up on cars, Fruit Loops , or anything else it's a necessary evil.

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Except that the tariffs on vehicles are not retaliatory. They are instead designed to bring manufacturing jobs to the US.

And if they do go through, rest assured the costs will not be "temporary."

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Yes sir I understand your position.

I WANT more good paying manufacturing jobs for Americans.

Not everyone can be a successful attorney or entrepreneur.

And I am willing to pay more for a car to bring this about.

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Glad you can pay more for items that most families need. Problem is, the vast majority of people won't be able to. New car sales are about to plummet, and dealerships will go out of business or start firing employees. Is having more manufacturing jobs in Detroit worth that cost?

Hey but at least we will have more people in the UAW, who are already ridiculously overpaid, making more money. Detroit will be happy and the unions ecstatic. Problem is, the rest of the country will suffer.

That's just not my position. Those are the facts.

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Yes sir.

Each and every poster on this free internet message board believes his opinions are factual. Even those who want open borders and legalized LSD.

Time will tell if Trump is correct.

However in the short term times will be tougher.
But we simply cannot continue ignoring economic, employment, and federal debt realities.

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I don't claim to be smarter than anyone. I just paid attention during my first year economics course at Baylor.

Trump isn't always right. This is one of those issues.

Tariffs on cars aren't going to solve any issue except making the unions richer. They will hurt economic, employment and federal debt realities.

Mothra said:

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KaiBear said:

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Mothra said:

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KaiBear said:

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Mothra said:

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KaiBear said:

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Zero chance Trump is serious about annexing Canada.

Zero chance Harris would have been a better president regardless of the issue.

Retaliatory tariffs are necessary as the United States economy can no longer afford to supplement the economic development of the rest of the world.

If costs temporarily go up on cars, Fruit Loops , or anything else it's a necessary evil.

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Except that the tariffs on vehicles are not retaliatory. They are instead designed to bring manufacturing jobs to the US.

And if they do go through, rest assured the costs will not be "temporary."

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Yes sir I understand your position.

I WANT more good paying manufacturing jobs for Americans.

Not everyone can be a successful attorney or entrepreneur.

And I am willing to pay more for a car to bring this about.

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Glad you can pay more for items that most families need. Problem is, the vast majority of people won't be able to. New car sales are about to plummet, and dealerships will go out of business or start firing employees. Is having more manufacturing jobs in Detroit worth that cost?

Hey but at least we will have more people in the UAW, who are already ridiculously overpaid, making more money. Detroit will be happy and the unions ecstatic. Problem is, the rest of the country will suffer.

That's just not my position. Those are the facts.

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Yes sir.

Each and every poster on this free internet message board believes his opinions are factual. Even those who want open borders and legalized LSD.

Time will tell if Trump is correct.

However in the short term times will be tougher.
But we simply cannot continue ignoring economic, employment, and federal debt realities.

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I don't claim to be smarter than anyone. I just paid attention during my first year economics course at Baylor.

Trump isn't always right. This is one of those issues.

Tariffs on cars aren't going to solve any issue except making the unions richer. They will hurt economic, employment and federal debt realities.

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Sincerely believe you are smarter than me.

However also believe I understand what Trump is trying to do.

Good paying manufacturing jobs have to return to the United States or our middle class is doomed.

We all can't attend university, we all can't own farms or businesses.

KaiBear said:

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Mothra said:

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KaiBear said:

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Zero chance Trump is serious about annexing Canada.

Zero chance Harris would have been a better president regardless of the issue.

Retaliatory tariffs are necessary as the United States economy can no longer afford to supplement the economic development of the rest of the world.

If costs temporarily go up on cars, Fruit Loops , or anything else it's a necessary evil.

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Except that the tariffs on vehicles are not retaliatory. They are instead designed to bring manufacturing jobs to the US.

And if they do go through, rest assured the costs will not be "temporary."

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Yes sir I understand your position.

I WANT more good paying manufacturing jobs for Americans.

Not everyone can be a successful attorney or entrepreneur.

And I am willing to pay more for a car to bring this about.

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Nice in theory, but at 4 percent unemployment, the only people in the U.S. that don't have a job don't want a job. The government layoffs at some point very soon will be reflected in the unemployment numbers.

If Trump brings back these tens of millions of manufacturing jobs, who is going to fill those positions? I would think the very first thing a manufacturer would do before spending $billions on new plants would be to make sure there is a viable workforce in place. I think this is a huge concern for most companies.

Mothra said:

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KaiBear said:

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Zero chance Trump is serious about annexing Canada.

Zero chance Harris would have been a better president regardless of the issue.

Retaliatory tariffs are necessary as the United States economy can no longer afford to supplement the economic development of the rest of the world.

If costs temporarily go up on cars, Fruit Loops , or anything else it's a necessary evil.

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Except that the tariffs on vehicles are not retaliatory. They are instead designed to bring manufacturing jobs to the US.

And if they do go through, rest assured the costs will not be "temporary."

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Oddly, manufacturing jobs keep coming to the IS because of NAFTA and exchange rates. Sure, not 100% but MB, BMW, Honda, Toyota and soon Hyundai are all here.

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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KaiBear said:

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Mothra said:

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KaiBear said:

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Zero chance Trump is serious about annexing Canada.

Zero chance Harris would have been a better president regardless of the issue.

Retaliatory tariffs are necessary as the United States economy can no longer afford to supplement the economic development of the rest of the world.

If costs temporarily go up on cars, Fruit Loops , or anything else it's a necessary evil.

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Except that the tariffs on vehicles are not retaliatory. They are instead designed to bring manufacturing jobs to the US.

And if they do go through, rest assured the costs will not be "temporary."

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Yes sir I understand your position.

I WANT more good paying manufacturing jobs for Americans.

Not everyone can be a successful attorney or entrepreneur.

And I am willing to pay more for a car to bring this about.

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Nice in theory, but at 4 percent unemployment, the only people in the U.S. that don't have a job don't want a job. The government layoffs at some point very soon will be reflected in the unemployment numbers.

If Trump brings back these tens of millions of manufacturing jobs, who is going to fill those positions? I would think the very first thing a manufacturer would do before spending $billions on new plants would be to make sure there is a viable workforce in place. I think this is a huge concern for most companies.

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All you care about is your pocketbook.

Your early comments were the most accurate and revealing.

Tariffs work.

Historically they always have.

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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KaiBear said:

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Mothra said:

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KaiBear said:

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Zero chance Trump is serious about annexing Canada.

Zero chance Harris would have been a better president regardless of the issue.

Retaliatory tariffs are necessary as the United States economy can no longer afford to supplement the economic development of the rest of the world.

If costs temporarily go up on cars, Fruit Loops , or anything else it's a necessary evil.

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Except that the tariffs on vehicles are not retaliatory. They are instead designed to bring manufacturing jobs to the US.

And if they do go through, rest assured the costs will not be "temporary."

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Yes sir I understand your position.

I WANT more good paying manufacturing jobs for Americans.

Not everyone can be a successful attorney or entrepreneur.

And I am willing to pay more for a car to bring this about.

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Nice in theory, but at 4 percent unemployment, the only people in the U.S. that don't have a job don't want a job. The government layoffs at some point very soon will be reflected in the unemployment numbers.

If Trump brings back these tens of millions of manufacturing jobs, who is going to fill those positions? I would think the very first thing a manufacturer would do before spending $billions on new plants would be to make sure there is a viable workforce in place. I think this is a huge concern for most companies.

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If all these manufacturing jobs come back, the simple fact is that things that are essentially household necessities today - like cell phones, computers, TV's, cars, etc. - will become completely unaffordable, and more akin to luxury items. The unintended consequences will be a lot less manufacturing jobs, as the demand simply will not be there.

KaiBear said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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KaiBear said:

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Mothra said:

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KaiBear said:

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Zero chance Trump is serious about annexing Canada.

Zero chance Harris would have been a better president regardless of the issue.

Retaliatory tariffs are necessary as the United States economy can no longer afford to supplement the economic development of the rest of the world.

If costs temporarily go up on cars, Fruit Loops , or anything else it's a necessary evil.

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Except that the tariffs on vehicles are not retaliatory. They are instead designed to bring manufacturing jobs to the US.

And if they do go through, rest assured the costs will not be "temporary."

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Yes sir I understand your position.

I WANT more good paying manufacturing jobs for Americans.

Not everyone can be a successful attorney or entrepreneur.

And I am willing to pay more for a car to bring this about.

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Nice in theory, but at 4 percent unemployment, the only people in the U.S. that don't have a job don't want a job. The government layoffs at some point very soon will be reflected in the unemployment numbers.

If Trump brings back these tens of millions of manufacturing jobs, who is going to fill those positions? I would think the very first thing a manufacturer would do before spending $billions on new plants would be to make sure there is a viable workforce in place. I think this is a huge concern for most companies.

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All you care about is your pocketbook.

Your early comments were the most accurate and revealing.

Tariffs work.

Historically they always have.

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I care about putting food on the table for my family, paying my bills, and hopefully leaving a little something for my offspring. If that makes me a greedy, bad man, then so be it. Guilty as charged. I have watched more than three years of retirement funds disappear these last eight weeks. Forgive me if I am not giddy and doing a happy dance.

Yeah, I heard one of Trump's cheerleaders talk about how great the tariffs worked right after the Revolutionary War. Back when you had to take a horse & buggy to town. Medical care was just fifty miles away. Filling up the tank was feeding the horse some oats. Cotton was king. Electricity and indoor plumbing was not a thing. Maybe Trump wants to go back there, but hard pass for me.

It's funny. I have heard people say tariffs are a good idea but I haven't heard anyone say they would voluntarily pay them. Of a man really thinks they a good thing they should go ahead and do it. Throw in an extra 25% next time you buy a car. Do it for America.

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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KaiBear said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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KaiBear said:

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Mothra said:

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KaiBear said:

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Zero chance Trump is serious about annexing Canada.

Zero chance Harris would have been a better president regardless of the issue.

Retaliatory tariffs are necessary as the United States economy can no longer afford to supplement the economic development of the rest of the world.

If costs temporarily go up on cars, Fruit Loops , or anything else it's a necessary evil.

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Except that the tariffs on vehicles are not retaliatory. They are instead designed to bring manufacturing jobs to the US.

And if they do go through, rest assured the costs will not be "temporary."

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Yes sir I understand your position.

I WANT more good paying manufacturing jobs for Americans.

Not everyone can be a successful attorney or entrepreneur.

And I am willing to pay more for a car to bring this about.

---

Nice in theory, but at 4 percent unemployment, the only people in the U.S. that don't have a job don't want a job. The government layoffs at some point very soon will be reflected in the unemployment numbers.

If Trump brings back these tens of millions of manufacturing jobs, who is going to fill those positions? I would think the very first thing a manufacturer would do before spending $billions on new plants would be to make sure there is a viable workforce in place. I think this is a huge concern for most companies.

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All you care about is your pocketbook.

Your early comments were the most accurate and revealing.

Tariffs work.

Historically they always have.

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I care about putting food on the table for my family, paying my bills, and hopefully leaving a little something for my offspring. If that makes me a greedy, bad man, then so be it. Guilty as charged. I have watched more than three years of retirement funds disappear these last eight weeks. Forgive me if I am not giddy and doing a happy dance.

Yeah, I heard one of Trump's cheerleaders talk about how great the tariffs worked right after the Revolutionary War. Back when you had to take a horse & buggy to town. Medical care was just fifty miles away. Filling up the tank was feeding the horse some oats. Cotton was king. Electricity and indoor plumbing was not a thing. Maybe Trump wants to go back there, but hard pass for me.

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You have been one of Trumps cheerleaders for years.

Stock market goes down a little and you panic.

Common behavior.

Feel free to help support the unions by paying 25% extra. Wouldnt that make you feel all fuzzy inside or do you need to force other to do it despite their unwillingness? How did the Smoot Hawley tariffs work for our country?

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It's funny. I have heard people say tariffs are a good idea but I haven't heard anyone say they would voluntarily pay them. Of a man really thinks they a good thing they should go ahead and do it. Throw in an extra 25% next time you buy a car. Do it for America.

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The current downturn of the market has cost me approximately 125k …..on paper.

Doesn't bother me at all.

I understand the need and the plan.


No go back to Cambodia searching for your next 'true love' while pretending you give a flip about anyone else.

KaiBear said:

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KaiBear said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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KaiBear said:

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Mothra said:

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KaiBear said:

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Zero chance Trump is serious about annexing Canada.

Zero chance Harris would have been a better president regardless of the issue.

Retaliatory tariffs are necessary as the United States economy can no longer afford to supplement the economic development of the rest of the world.

If costs temporarily go up on cars, Fruit Loops , or anything else it's a necessary evil.

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Except that the tariffs on vehicles are not retaliatory. They are instead designed to bring manufacturing jobs to the US.

And if they do go through, rest assured the costs will not be "temporary."

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Yes sir I understand your position.

I WANT more good paying manufacturing jobs for Americans.

Not everyone can be a successful attorney or entrepreneur.

And I am willing to pay more for a car to bring this about.

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Nice in theory, but at 4 percent unemployment, the only people in the U.S. that don't have a job don't want a job. The government layoffs at some point very soon will be reflected in the unemployment numbers.

If Trump brings back these tens of millions of manufacturing jobs, who is going to fill those positions? I would think the very first thing a manufacturer would do before spending $billions on new plants would be to make sure there is a viable workforce in place. I think this is a huge concern for most companies.

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All you care about is your pocketbook.

Your early comments were the most accurate and revealing.

Tariffs work.

Historically they always have.

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I care about putting food on the table for my family, paying my bills, and hopefully leaving a little something for my offspring. If that makes me a greedy, bad man, then so be it. Guilty as charged. I have watched more than three years of retirement funds disappear these last eight weeks. Forgive me if I am not giddy and doing a happy dance.

Yeah, I heard one of Trump's cheerleaders talk about how great the tariffs worked right after the Revolutionary War. Back when you had to take a horse & buggy to town. Medical care was just fifty miles away. Filling up the tank was feeding the horse some oats. Cotton was king. Electricity and indoor plumbing was not a thing. Maybe Trump wants to go back there, but hard pass for me.

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You have been one of Trumps cheerleaders for years.

Stock market goes down a little and you panic.

Common behavior.

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I voted for Trump 3 times. Unlike you, I am willing to call him out when I think he is going down the wrong path. The top concern of Americans going into the election was the economy. So far, Trump has failed miserably on the economy. Just calling balls and strikes as I see them.

I can see Trump's next "bold move" to be the firing of FED Chairman Jerome Powell. That way us little people (the middle and lower classes) can borrow money at a lower interest rate to buy more stuff they can't afford. What could possibly go wrong?

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KaiBear said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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KaiBear said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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KaiBear said:

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Mothra said:

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KaiBear said:

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Zero chance Trump is serious about annexing Canada.

Zero chance Harris would have been a better president regardless of the issue.

Retaliatory tariffs are necessary as the United States economy can no longer afford to supplement the economic development of the rest of the world.

If costs temporarily go up on cars, Fruit Loops , or anything else it's a necessary evil.

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Except that the tariffs on vehicles are not retaliatory. They are instead designed to bring manufacturing jobs to the US.

And if they do go through, rest assured the costs will not be "temporary."

---

Yes sir I understand your position.

I WANT more good paying manufacturing jobs for Americans.

Not everyone can be a successful attorney or entrepreneur.

And I am willing to pay more for a car to bring this about.

---

Nice in theory, but at 4 percent unemployment, the only people in the U.S. that don't have a job don't want a job. The government layoffs at some point very soon will be reflected in the unemployment numbers.

If Trump brings back these tens of millions of manufacturing jobs, who is going to fill those positions? I would think the very first thing a manufacturer would do before spending $billions on new plants would be to make sure there is a viable workforce in place. I think this is a huge concern for most companies.

---

All you care about is your pocketbook.

Your early comments were the most accurate and revealing.

Tariffs work.

Historically they always have.

---

I care about putting food on the table for my family, paying my bills, and hopefully leaving a little something for my offspring. If that makes me a greedy, bad man, then so be it. Guilty as charged. I have watched more than three years of retirement funds disappear these last eight weeks. Forgive me if I am not giddy and doing a happy dance.

Yeah, I heard one of Trump's cheerleaders talk about how great the tariffs worked right after the Revolutionary War. Back when you had to take a horse & buggy to town. Medical care was just fifty miles away. Filling up the tank was feeding the horse some oats. Cotton was king. Electricity and indoor plumbing was not a thing. Maybe Trump wants to go back there, but hard pass for me.

---

You have been one of Trumps cheerleaders for years.

Stock market goes down a little and you panic.

Common behavior.

---

I voted for Trump 3 times. Unlike you, I am willing to call him out when I think he is going down the wrong path. The top concern of Americans going into the election was the economy. So far, Trump has failed miserably on the economy. Just calling balls and strikes as I see them.

I can see Trump's next "bold move" to be the firing of FED Chairman Jerome Powell. That way us little people (the middle and lower classes) can borrow money at a lower interest rate to buy more stuff they can't afford. What could possibly go wrong?

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A. Trump ca not fire the Fed Chairman
B. Trump can only extend his term or not when it runs out.
C. You chose early retirement. That is on you …not the president of the United States.
D. You chose to invest in the stock market. That is on you ….not the president of the United States.

We are all responsible for our own monetary decisions.
No one else.

KaiBear said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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KaiBear said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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KaiBear said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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KaiBear said:

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Mothra said:

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KaiBear said:

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Zero chance Trump is serious about annexing Canada.

Zero chance Harris would have been a better president regardless of the issue.

Retaliatory tariffs are necessary as the United States economy can no longer afford to supplement the economic development of the rest of the world.

If costs temporarily go up on cars, Fruit Loops , or anything else it's a necessary evil.

---

Except that the tariffs on vehicles are not retaliatory. They are instead designed to bring manufacturing jobs to the US.

And if they do go through, rest assured the costs will not be "temporary."

---

Yes sir I understand your position.

I WANT more good paying manufacturing jobs for Americans.

Not everyone can be a successful attorney or entrepreneur.

And I am willing to pay more for a car to bring this about.

---

Nice in theory, but at 4 percent unemployment, the only people in the U.S. that don't have a job don't want a job. The government layoffs at some point very soon will be reflected in the unemployment numbers.

If Trump brings back these tens of millions of manufacturing jobs, who is going to fill those positions? I would think the very first thing a manufacturer would do before spending $billions on new plants would be to make sure there is a viable workforce in place. I think this is a huge concern for most companies.

---

All you care about is your pocketbook.

Your early comments were the most accurate and revealing.

Tariffs work.

Historically they always have.

---

I care about putting food on the table for my family, paying my bills, and hopefully leaving a little something for my offspring. If that makes me a greedy, bad man, then so be it. Guilty as charged. I have watched more than three years of retirement funds disappear these last eight weeks. Forgive me if I am not giddy and doing a happy dance.

Yeah, I heard one of Trump's cheerleaders talk about how great the tariffs worked right after the Revolutionary War. Back when you had to take a horse & buggy to town. Medical care was just fifty miles away. Filling up the tank was feeding the horse some oats. Cotton was king. Electricity and indoor plumbing was not a thing. Maybe Trump wants to go back there, but hard pass for me.

---

You have been one of Trumps cheerleaders for years.

Stock market goes down a little and you panic.

Common behavior.

---

I voted for Trump 3 times. Unlike you, I am willing to call him out when I think he is going down the wrong path. The top concern of Americans going into the election was the economy. So far, Trump has failed miserably on the economy. Just calling balls and strikes as I see them.

I can see Trump's next "bold move" to be the firing of FED Chairman Jerome Powell. That way us little people (the middle and lower classes) can borrow money at a lower interest rate to buy more stuff they can't afford. What could possibly go wrong?

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A. Trump ca not fire the Fed Chairman
B. Trump can only extend his term or not when it runs out.
C. You chose early retirement. That is on you …not the president of the United States.
D. You chose to invest in the stock market. That is on you ….not the president of the United States.

We are all responsible for our own monetary decisions.
No one else.

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A. You don't think Trump can fire Powell? Do you think he cares? Just watch him. We'll see what the courts decide.
B. I think Trump should extend Powell's term, but he won't.
C. I have no regrets about retiring early. One of the best decisions I ever made. Unfortunately, I'm not sure if I will die at 64 or 100.
D. Yep, investing heavily in the stock market under a volatile Donald Trump was a piss poor decision on my part. We live and learn.

You said, "We are all responsible for our own monetary decisions." Truer words were never spoken.

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I am sure I am not the only retired American that has been gut-punched by Trump's foreign policy. I would bet there are millions just like me that are less than pleased by Trump's adversarial approach to all of the world. This includes many longstanding allies.

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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KaiBear said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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KaiBear said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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KaiBear said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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KaiBear said:

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Mothra said:

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KaiBear said:

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Zero chance Trump is serious about annexing Canada.

Zero chance Harris would have been a better president regardless of the issue.

Retaliatory tariffs are necessary as the United States economy can no longer afford to supplement the economic development of the rest of the world.

If costs temporarily go up on cars, Fruit Loops , or anything else it's a necessary evil.

---

Except that the tariffs on vehicles are not retaliatory. They are instead designed to bring manufacturing jobs to the US.

And if they do go through, rest assured the costs will not be "temporary."

---

Yes sir I understand your position.

I WANT more good paying manufacturing jobs for Americans.

Not everyone can be a successful attorney or entrepreneur.

And I am willing to pay more for a car to bring this about.

---

Nice in theory, but at 4 percent unemployment, the only people in the U.S. that don't have a job don't want a job. The government layoffs at some point very soon will be reflected in the unemployment numbers.

If Trump brings back these tens of millions of manufacturing jobs, who is going to fill those positions? I would think the very first thing a manufacturer would do before spending $billions on new plants would be to make sure there is a viable workforce in place. I think this is a huge concern for most companies.

---

All you care about is your pocketbook.

Your early comments were the most accurate and revealing.

Tariffs work.

Historically they always have.

---

I care about putting food on the table for my family, paying my bills, and hopefully leaving a little something for my offspring. If that makes me a greedy, bad man, then so be it. Guilty as charged. I have watched more than three years of retirement funds disappear these last eight weeks. Forgive me if I am not giddy and doing a happy dance.

Yeah, I heard one of Trump's cheerleaders talk about how great the tariffs worked right after the Revolutionary War. Back when you had to take a horse & buggy to town. Medical care was just fifty miles away. Filling up the tank was feeding the horse some oats. Cotton was king. Electricity and indoor plumbing was not a thing. Maybe Trump wants to go back there, but hard pass for me.

---

You have been one of Trumps cheerleaders for years.

Stock market goes down a little and you panic.

Common behavior.

---

I voted for Trump 3 times. Unlike you, I am willing to call him out when I think he is going down the wrong path. The top concern of Americans going into the election was the economy. So far, Trump has failed miserably on the economy. Just calling balls and strikes as I see them.

I can see Trump's next "bold move" to be the firing of FED Chairman Jerome Powell. That way us little people (the middle and lower classes) can borrow money at a lower interest rate to buy more stuff they can't afford. What could possibly go wrong?

---

A. Trump ca not fire the Fed Chairman
B. Trump can only extend his term or not when it runs out.
C. You chose early retirement. That is on you …not the president of the United States.
D. You chose to invest in the stock market. That is on you ….not the president of the United States.

We are all responsible for our own monetary decisions.
No one else.

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A. You don't think Trump can fire Powell? Do you think he cares? Just watch him. We'll see what the courts decide.
B. I think Trump should extend Powell's term, but he won't.
C. I have no regrets about retiring early. One of the best decisions I ever made. Unfortunately, I'm not sure if I will die at 64 or 100.
D. Yep, investing heavily in the stock market under a volatile Donald Trump was a piss poor decision on my part. We live and learn.

You said, "We are all responsible for our own monetary decisions." Truer words were never spoken.

=========================================

I am sure I am not the only retired American that has been gut-punched by Trump's foreign policy. I would bet there are millions just like me that are less than pleased by Trump's adversarial approach to all of the world. This includes many longstanding allies.

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My advice to you is just relax.

Strongly suspect the economy will be stronger than ever within 18 months.

KaiBear said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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KaiBear said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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KaiBear said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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KaiBear said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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KaiBear said:

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Mothra said:

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KaiBear said:

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Zero chance Trump is serious about annexing Canada.

Zero chance Harris would have been a better president regardless of the issue.

Retaliatory tariffs are necessary as the United States economy can no longer afford to supplement the economic development of the rest of the world.

If costs temporarily go up on cars, Fruit Loops , or anything else it's a necessary evil.

---

Except that the tariffs on vehicles are not retaliatory. They are instead designed to bring manufacturing jobs to the US.

And if they do go through, rest assured the costs will not be "temporary."

---

Yes sir I understand your position.

I WANT more good paying manufacturing jobs for Americans.

Not everyone can be a successful attorney or entrepreneur.

And I am willing to pay more for a car to bring this about.

---

Nice in theory, but at 4 percent unemployment, the only people in the U.S. that don't have a job don't want a job. The government layoffs at some point very soon will be reflected in the unemployment numbers.

If Trump brings back these tens of millions of manufacturing jobs, who is going to fill those positions? I would think the very first thing a manufacturer would do before spending $billions on new plants would be to make sure there is a viable workforce in place. I think this is a huge concern for most companies.

---

All you care about is your pocketbook.

Your early comments were the most accurate and revealing.

Tariffs work.

Historically they always have.

---

I care about putting food on the table for my family, paying my bills, and hopefully leaving a little something for my offspring. If that makes me a greedy, bad man, then so be it. Guilty as charged. I have watched more than three years of retirement funds disappear these last eight weeks. Forgive me if I am not giddy and doing a happy dance.

Yeah, I heard one of Trump's cheerleaders talk about how great the tariffs worked right after the Revolutionary War. Back when you had to take a horse & buggy to town. Medical care was just fifty miles away. Filling up the tank was feeding the horse some oats. Cotton was king. Electricity and indoor plumbing was not a thing. Maybe Trump wants to go back there, but hard pass for me.

---

You have been one of Trumps cheerleaders for years.

Stock market goes down a little and you panic.

Common behavior.

---

I voted for Trump 3 times. Unlike you, I am willing to call him out when I think he is going down the wrong path. The top concern of Americans going into the election was the economy. So far, Trump has failed miserably on the economy. Just calling balls and strikes as I see them.

I can see Trump's next "bold move" to be the firing of FED Chairman Jerome Powell. That way us little people (the middle and lower classes) can borrow money at a lower interest rate to buy more stuff they can't afford. What could possibly go wrong?

---

A. Trump ca not fire the Fed Chairman
B. Trump can only extend his term or not when it runs out.
C. You chose early retirement. That is on you …not the president of the United States.
D. You chose to invest in the stock market. That is on you ….not the president of the United States.

We are all responsible for our own monetary decisions.
No one else.

---

A. You don't think Trump can fire Powell? Do you think he cares? Just watch him. We'll see what the courts decide.
B. I think Trump should extend Powell's term, but he won't.
C. I have no regrets about retiring early. One of the best decisions I ever made. Unfortunately, I'm not sure if I will die at 64 or 100.
D. Yep, investing heavily in the stock market under a volatile Donald Trump was a piss poor decision on my part. We live and learn.

You said, "We are all responsible for our own monetary decisions." Truer words were never spoken.

=========================================

I am sure I am not the only retired American that has been gut-punched by Trump's foreign policy. I would bet there are millions just like me that are less than pleased by Trump's adversarial approach to all of the world. This includes many longstanding allies.

---

My advice to you is just relax.

Strongly suspect the economy will be stronger than ever within 18 months.

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Liberals have told me the opposite.