* * WNBA wants new CBA... Despite Losing $50 mil a year

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nein51
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Mitch Blood Green said:

In the end, they still need a CBA.

You mean a new CBA. If they keep holding out for 50% revenue sharing I think the odds are about 100% there is a strike.

Thats a super tenuous position because the league would make more under a strike. The league isn't going to be hurt by a strike. The players may be.
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4th and Inches said:

Porteroso said:

Assassin said:

Porteroso said:

LMAO they "want" a new CBA... Yeah it's called having a job.

And what would you guys do in their shoes? Say "hmmmm, so our business loses money every year, huh... Why dont we just play for free?" No of course they want money. You do too. We all want a slice of the pie.

We should make Tshirts!

You already post dumb stuff for free. You dont need the T-shirt.

put porteroso down for a no on the tshirt oder form

I was just ready to order his XX Small
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Assassin said:

4th and Inches said:

Porteroso said:

Assassin said:

Porteroso said:

LMAO they "want" a new CBA... Yeah it's called having a job.

And what would you guys do in their shoes? Say "hmmmm, so our business loses money every year, huh... Why dont we just play for free?" No of course they want money. You do too. We all want a slice of the pie.

We should make Tshirts!

You already post dumb stuff for free. You dont need the T-shirt.

put porteroso down for a no on the tshirt oder form

I was just ready to order his XX Small

Hahahaha. Where's Thee University to call him a pencil neck?
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nein51 said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

In the end, they still need a CBA.

You mean a new CBA. If they keep holding out for 50% revenue sharing I think the odds are about 100% there is a strike.

Thats a super tenuous position because the league would make more under a strike. The league isn't going to be hurt by a strike. The players may be.

Oh man. A WBNA strike would be pure comedy. Count me in for really hoping that happens just to view the ensuing hilarity.
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FormerFlash said:

nein51 said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

In the end, they still need a CBA.

You mean a new CBA. If they keep holding out for 50% revenue sharing I think the odds are about 100% there is a strike.

Thats a super tenuous position because the league would make more under a strike. The league isn't going to be hurt by a strike. The players may be.

Oh man. A WBNA strike would be pure comedy. Count me in for really hoping that happens just to view the ensuing hilarity.

The old "if a tree falls in the forest" question could finally be answered though
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FormerFlash said:

nein51 said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

In the end, they still need a CBA.

You mean a new CBA. If they keep holding out for 50% revenue sharing I think the odds are about 100% there is a strike.

Thats a super tenuous position because the league would make more under a strike. The league isn't going to be hurt by a strike. The players may be.

Oh man. A WBNA strike would be pure comedy. Count me in for really hoping that happens just to view the ensuing hilarity.


I thought about the adage from my college time: "What if they gave a war and no one showed up?"

What I've seen, WNBA has devolved into a mild MMA gathering, with absent officiating.
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nein51 said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

In the end, they still need a CBA.

You mean a new CBA. If they keep holding out for 50% revenue sharing I think the odds are about 100% there is a strike.

Thats a super tenuous position because the league would make more under a strike. The league isn't going to be hurt by a strike. The players may be.


I'm ok with that. Adults can overplay their hand.
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nein51 said:

Fever ticket sales are up 319%


Those 42 more tickets nearly broke the office inkjet printer, hehe.
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FormerFlash said:

nein51 said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

In the end, they still need a CBA.

You mean a new CBA. If they keep holding out for 50% revenue sharing I think the odds are about 100% there is a strike.

Thats a super tenuous position because the league would make more under a strike. The league isn't going to be hurt by a strike. The players may be.

Oh man. A WBNA strike would be pure comedy. Count me in for really hoping that happens just to view the ensuing hilarity.

Only AFL CIO regular protestors will be there. You know, Bob, Don, Carol and Jackie. The same ones you see at each union protest
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Women's sports where in order to excel the more you have to resemble a man will always have a hard time being popular and making money. Those types of women just aren't role models for the vast majority of women, so most women don't support them. In order to make money, you need male eyeballs. To get those, you need to present a show they'll watch. The women's skills at basketball isn't going to be a draw for them at all. Some male NBA players suggested a good idea - lower the rim to 9 feet and then we might see women dunk on each other and get into fights. For some reason, men are intrigued by the odd spectacle of women being violent to each other in shows of dominance (i.e. why women's MMA is popular). It's why men like cat fights (Kramer: "Ye-ye-yeeaaah CAT FIGHT!!"). The other draw would be hot-looking women, obviously. The problem is, basketball doesn't generally select for women with a high degree of femininity, and the most skilled women players tend to be of a, umm... certain persuasion.
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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

Women's sports where in order to excel the more you have to resemble a man will always have a hard time being popular and making money. Those types of women just aren't role models for the vast majority of women, so most women don't support them. In order to make money, you need male eyeballs. To get those, you need to present a show they'll watch. The women's skills at basketball isn't going to be a draw for them at all. Some male NBA players suggested a good idea - lower the rim to 9 feet and then we might see women dunk on each other and get into fights. For some reason, men are intrigued by the odd spectacle of women being violent to each other in shows of dominance (i.e. why women's MMA is popular). It's why men like cat fights (Kramer: "Ye-ye-yeeaaah CAT FIGHT!!"). The other draw would be hot-looking women, obviously. The problem is, basketball doesn't generally select for women with a high degree of femininity, and the most skilled women players tend to be of a, umm... certain persuasion.

Ugly?
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I've always said the game should be modified to fit women's play style and athletic ability. Determine the ratio of average height and vertical jump across the nba and their correlation to the 10 foot rim, then recreate that with the height of the rim in the women's game. Do it scientifically, not just picking an arbitrary height like 9 ft. They use a smaller ball. Why not a lower rim? I also think they should try and maintain the appropriate level of difficulty. The rim in the men's game is the perfect width to allow two basketballs through at once side by side. The women's rim should be adjusted to a smaller width to match their smaller ball with 2 fitting perfectly side by side.

Just rescale the game to meet their needs. Women on average aren't as tall as men. Women on average aren't as athletic as men. Make these adjustments and you bring their product closer to the men's product people obviously enjoy more.
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cowboycwr said:

historian said:

It also applies to road games: opposing teams have increased ticket sales but only when she is playing the local team. It is only because of Clark. The fans don't care much about anyone else.


Other than the few Baylor players in the league and some of the top names from college like Diana T (from UConn), sue Bird, etc I couldn't even name players. And I actually could not tell you what teams they play for or even if they are still playing.

Like Sophia young. I did not know she had retired until I saw something in a Baylor email about her being recognized at a BU game and the email talked about her having retired.

Agreed. To be fair, I don't pay much attention to the NBA either. OTOH, if the Spurs could win more gamesโ€ฆ.
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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

nein51 said:

Fever ticket sales are up 319%


Those 42 more tickets nearly broke the office inkjet printer, hehe.
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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

nein51 said:

Fever ticket sales are up 319%


Those 42 more tickets nearly broke the office inkjet printer, hehe.

I mean that's quippy but they are having to play in 20,000 seat venues now so no. Thats how much effect she's having.
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FormerFlash said:

I've always said the game should be modified to fit women's play style and athletic ability. Determine the ratio of average height and vertical jump across the nba and their correlation to the 10 foot rim, then recreate that with the height of the rim in the women's game. Do it scientifically, not just picking an arbitrary height like 9 ft. They use a smaller ball. Why not a lower rim? I also think they should try and maintain the appropriate level of difficulty. The rim in the men's game is the perfect width to allow two basketballs through at once side by side. The women's rim should be adjusted to a smaller width to match their smaller ball with 2 fitting perfectly side by side.

Just rescale the game to meet their needs. Women on average aren't as tall as men. Women on average aren't as athletic as men. Make these adjustments and you bring their product closer to the men's product people obviously enjoy more.

They don't want that. Doing that means they aren't the same as the men. It makes perfect sense but they just aren't interested.
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FormerFlash said:

I've always said the game should be modified to fit women's play style and athletic ability. Determine the ratio of average height and vertical jump across the nba and their correlation to the 10 foot rim, then recreate that with the height of the rim in the women's game. Do it scientifically, not just picking an arbitrary height like 9 ft. They use a smaller ball. Why not a lower rim? I also think they should try and maintain the appropriate level of difficulty. The rim in the men's game is the perfect width to allow two basketballs through at once side by side. The women's rim should be adjusted to a smaller width to match their smaller ball with 2 fitting perfectly side by side.

Just rescale the game to meet their needs. Women on average aren't as tall as men. Women on average aren't as athletic as men. Make these adjustments and you bring their product closer to the men's product people obviously enjoy more.

Why didn't you just post women's basketball should be cancelled.
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In an honest business environment, that's exactly what would happen.
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nein51 said:

BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

nein51 said:

Fever ticket sales are up 319%


Those 42 more tickets nearly broke the office inkjet printer, hehe.

I mean that's quippy but they are having to play in 20,000 seat venues now so no. Thats how much effect she's having.

It was there, I had to take it.

Clark is the golden goose, but her feathers are white, not black. So that goose is cooked.
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I'll be honest, I have never watched the WNBA, so I hadn't ever really thought of the rim being 10 feet high... I do think lowering it to 9.5 feet would be a good idea. The average height in the WNBA is 6 feet, and in the NBA 6'3. So accounting for athleticism, 6 inches seems prudent.
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That's what she said.
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Porteroso said:

I'll be honest, I have never watched the WNBA, so I hadn't ever really thought of the rim being 10 feet high... I do think lowering it to 9.5 feet would be a good idea. The average height in the WNBA is 6 feet, and in the NBA 6'3. So accounting for athleticism, 6 inches seems prudent.

Again, it's not going to happen. I'm not guessing at the logic, the reason they don't do it. It's been discussed a million times.
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Assassin said:

This seem more like the right place for this more than Womens BBall...



Says the guy living off the dole.
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They could hire Colbert to be a referee.
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And they ejected a fan for laughing about lol
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Porteroso said:

LMAO they "want" a new CBA... Yeah it's called having a job.

And what would you guys do in their shoes? Say "hmmmm, so our business loses money every year, huh... Why dont we just play for free?" No of course they want money. You do too. We all want a slice of the pie.

They already are eating a large chunk, not slice, of the pie baked by the NBA, while bringing little, if any, ingredients to the mixture.
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https://sicem365.com/forums/4/topics/152597

Great write up about it in the article.
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nein51 said:



And they ejected a fan for laughing about lol

I've had my wig split in a football game.
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Denton man pleads guilty, sentenced for stalking WNBA star Caitlin Clark
Michael Thomas Lewis, 55, sent dozens of vulgar messages to the star athlete through X, according to authorities
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Jul. 28, 2025
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Michael Thomas Lewis, 55, sent dozens of vulgar messages to Indiana Fever star Caitlin Clark through X, according to authorities. (Michael Dwyer / AP)

INDIANAPOLIS A 55-year-old North Texas man who told police he was in "an imaginary relationship" with WNBA star Caitlin Clark was sentenced to 2 years in prison Monday after pleading guilty to stalking and harassing the Indiana Fever guard.

Michael Lewis, of Denton, reached a deal with Marion County prosecutors in which he pleaded guilty to one felony count of stalking and one misdemeanor count of harassment. He will get credit for time served.














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The Marion County Prosecutor's Office did not immediately respond to The Dallas Morning News' request for comment.
Lewis also was ordered to stay away from Gainbridge Fieldhouse, Hinkle Fieldhouse, Fever events and Indiana Pacers organization events, as well as to have no contact with Clark. He also will not be allowed internet access during his sentence.

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