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I would expect what is happening in DC is temporary and soon it will be turned over to a reformed local police dept that will be given the tools & support to go their jobs.

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When Trump gets the place cleaned up I have a monument on the National Mall to sell you.

You must not have heard: DC is already cleaned up greatly. The few honest Dems are admitting that and gif people there are thanking him.

They had a stretch of almost 2 weeks with no murders when before it was one every other day.

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Sam is tooYou must not have heard: DC is already cleaned up greatly. The few honest Dems are admitting that and gif people there are thanking him.

They had a stretch of almost 2 weeks with no murders when before it was one every other day.

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It's Sam being Sam.

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You must not have heard: DC is already cleaned up greatly. The few honest Dems are admitting that and gif people there are thanking him.

They had a stretch of almost 2 weeks with no murders when before it was one every other day.

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The same thing happened a few months ago, but don't let facts get in the way of a good old goose march.

Only someone with severe TDS wants more crime. That kind of hatred takes evil to a new level.

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Only someone with severe TDS wants more crime. That kind of hatred takes evil to a new level.

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I don't know if you're into history at all, but...you should try reading up on it some time.

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VZ has declared war* on us....... 'bout time we fought back.

Along w/ China.

- el KKM

D!

Torpedo the Dams!!

Suelten los perros, amigos!!!

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Turning law enforcement into a war zone? Fund the Coast Guard, put more Federal offices in place, give HSA the tools they need. But the US military is not for law enforcement. Sorry, this is not Ike making sure kids go to school.

NM

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Only someone with severe TDS wants more crime. That kind of hatred takes evil to a new level.

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I get your point. But, this ends justifies the means has never ended well for Nations. It never stops with the initial item that got people on board. Look at the Administration

1 - Immigration - we all applauded. Then it rolled into:
2- DOGE - we all agreed that the Govt got too big. So DOGE was considered ok. Look at the savings. So,
3 - Tariffs - We all agreed that the trade imbalance needs to be addressed so let Executive do it = Liberation Day
4 - DC - Crime is horrible so lets use the National Guard. DC is now occupied with federal troops. So.
5 - Chicago - we are sending Federal troops there.
6 - Drug - we are now blowing up boats with Hellfired and sent 10 fighter planes
7 - Portland?

Where does it stop? Every one in and of itself is a just reason. But, we are slowly giving 1 person the ability to declare an emergency on anything and do whatever he wants. That is not the job of the President. There is more, but you get the point. Where is the Rubicon?

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What Trump did in DC is not "ends justifies means" situation. It was an appropriate and totally constitutional way to address a crisis the local govt was ignoring.

Even the DC mayor belatedly recognized that it was a good idea.

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Like I said, each and every one when looked at individually justifies the action. Look at the cumulative effect.

Come on, you are a historian. Any similarities? We are now bringing WAR to Chicago?

FLBear5630 said:

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historian said:

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What Trump did in DC is not "ends justifies means" situation. It was an appropriate and totally constitutional way to address a crisis the local govt was ignoring.

Even the DC mayor belatedly recognized that it was a good idea.

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Like I said, each and every one when looked at individually justifies the action. Look at the cumulative effect.

Come on, you are a historian. Any similarities? We are now bringing WAR to Chicago?

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Should have been done years ago.

I made a few revisions to my statement.

My recommendation is to ignore the situation in blue cities in blue states entirely. Let them live the full consequnces of what they vote for.

However, hit blue cities in red states *hard*. Dallas, Houston, New Orleans, Atlanta, Nashville, Charlotte, Memphis, Saint Louis, Kansas City, and so on.

The criminals can self deport to New York, Minneapolis, Denver, Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, and LA for easier pickings.

Trump is a boomer, and so is subject to certain boomer era misconceptions. Chicago is no longer truly an "American" city.

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FLBear5630 said:

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historian said:

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What Trump did in DC is not "ends justifies means" situation. It was an appropriate and totally constitutional way to address a crisis the local govt was ignoring.

Even the DC mayor belatedly recognized that it was a good idea.

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Like I said, each and every one when looked at individually justifies the action. Look at the cumulative effect.

Come on, you are a historian. Any similarities? We are now bringing WAR to Chicago?

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Should have been done years ago.

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Unless it was done under a Blue Administration. Then, it would be fascism, Federal overreach, Government is too big. Backed up by my rights, 2A, and freedom. Maybe throw in the Federalist and Anti-Federalist to make it look like it is unbiased.


You would go nuts if Obama or Biden did this. That is what drives me nuts, watching the MAGA/Pro-Trump at any cost crowd rubberstamp stuff they complained about Clinton, Obama and Biden doing. Either you are for something or against, who brings the idea forward should be irrelevant.

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Not really. We all want the crime wave to end and would applaud anyone taking decisive steps to do it.

The reality is that neither Obama nor Biden would ever have done it. They are the ones he created the crime wave in the first place with open borders & bringing in 10+ million criminals, including large numbers of rapists, murders, sex traffickers, gang bangers, terrorists, etc. And their fascist allies cheered on the BLM & antifa riots and defunded police forces across the country while blue prosecutors (bought by Soros) encouraged more crime with cashless bail & refusing to prosecute.

The crime wave was a Dem creation. They own it and they still want it, opposing all efforts to stop it. It's one reason their popularity is tanking. They deserve every electoral shellacking they get from their insane policies.

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Of all the people on this Board, you would have been screaming the loudest. Mr "More Government is never the answer". Now, you are all for Federalizing National Guard and sending them into cities? All because Trump is doing it. If it was Biden, you would go nuts.

Here is a quote from Kristi...

"If (Biden) is willing to do that, and to take away my authority as governor as commander in chief of those National Guard (troops), boy, we do have a war on our hands," Noem said Feb. 4, 2024, on Fox News.

How about from Donald himself...

Trump tells George Stephanopoulos, "We have to go by the laws. We can't move in the National Guard. I can call insurrection but there's no reason to ever do that, even in a Portland case," referring to the then-current Portland, Oregon protests over the murder of George Floyd.


Now, it is the preferred way to handle Cities? DC was a trial, he has authority to do that, no doubt. Watch...

Megyn Kelly says that Trump shouldn’t send the National Guard into Chicago..

Thoughts?? pic.twitter.com/QErTxfeIHh

— American AF 🇺🇸 (@iAnonPatriot) September 7, 2025

Lawyer Who Helped Trump Try To Overturn Election Says He May Use 'Emergency Powers' To Take Control of Elections

https://www.mediaite.com/media/tv/lawyer-who-helped-trump-try-to-overturn-election-says-he-may-use-emergency-powers-to-take-control-of-elections/

Mike Johnson: "I cannot for the life of me understand how the Democrats think this is some kind of winning political message. Yield man! Let the troops come into your city and show how crime can be reduced." pic.twitter.com/NZ9JXkSn4y

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) September 9, 2025

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boognish_bear said:

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Megyn Kelly says that Trump shouldn’t send the National Guard into Chicago..

Thoughts?? pic.twitter.com/QErTxfeIHh

— American AF 🇺🇸 (@iAnonPatriot) September 7, 2025

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Did not listen but agree - National Guard should not be sent to cities without a request from the state or emergency.

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Actually both Noem and Trump are quoted as saying the Fed has no right unless asked by Gov.
Actually she said Biden would have a war on his hands.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dakotanewsnow.com/2025/06/12/was-kristi-noem-against-federal-control-south-dakotas-national-guard-during-biden-administration/%3foutputType=ampk

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Megyn Kelly says that Trump shouldn’t send the National Guard into Chicago..

Thoughts?? pic.twitter.com/QErTxfeIHh

— American AF 🇺🇸 (@iAnonPatriot) September 7, 2025

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Did not listen but agree - National Guard should not be sent to cities without a request from the state or emergency.

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Actually both Noem and Trump are quoted as saying the Fed has no right unless asked by Gov.

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I think each state's National Guard should be trained by the Federals as to how to go into a city and restore order, break up gangs, stop illegal protests and so forth. Set this up, then first in the future, the state and city officials can call for their own troops; if they fail to do that, the Feds come in at their own discretion

Would that conflict with the 10th amendment?

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Would that conflict with the 10th amendment?

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That would be something for the lawyers and probably SCOTUS to decide, but with the left not taking care of their own cities, there has to be a change to protect US Citizens

Ingraham: Fox News alert—Donald Trump is out on the town, dinner with members of his cabinet in D.C. Showing it’s safe to walk around the city pic.twitter.com/TctBiiRzCa

— Acyn (@Acyn) September 9, 2025

Trumps success in DC would not be duplicated in Chicago.

He needs to focus only on the cities that request federal assistance.

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Megyn Kelly says that Trump shouldn’t send the National Guard into Chicago..

Thoughts?? pic.twitter.com/QErTxfeIHh

— American AF 🇺🇸 (@iAnonPatriot) September 7, 2025

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Did not listen but agree - National Guard should not be sent to cities without a request from the state or emergency.

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Actually both Noem and Trump are quoted as saying the Fed has no right unless asked by Gov.

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I think each state's National Guard should be trained by the Federals as to how to go into a city and restore order, break up gangs, stop illegal protests and so forth. Set this up, then first in the future, the state and city officials can call for their own troops; if they fail to do that, the Feds come in at their own discretion

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But it is up to the Governor to use the National Guard and then ASK for Federal assistance. Unless there is a specific Federal law that is being enforced, like segregation under Eisenhower, Feds need to stay out of States. Both Noem and Trump have stated that in the past, before this Administration. DC is different, no issues.

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Not really. We all want the crime wave to end and would applaud anyone taking decisive steps to do it.

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The only wave Trump is trying to end is the blue one he sees coming in the elections.

Trump is sending ICE to enforce immigration laws. They have full constitutional authority to do so. Like in LA, they experience fascist mobs and violence hindering those efforts, Trump will have the authority to send in the military as support.

Unfortunately, the incompetent mayor of Chicago & governor of Illinois might want to create such a crisis for political reasons. The fascists repeatedly demonstrate that they don't care about public safety or how many lives might be lost because of their irresponsible and incompetent actions. To make matters worse, most of the people harmed in these situations are usually minorities.

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Trump is sending ICE to enforce immigration laws. They have full constitutional authority to do so. Like in LA, they experience fascist mobs and violence hindering those efforts, Trump will have the authority to send in the military as support.

Unfortunately, the incompetent mayor of Chicago & governor of Illinois might want to create such a crisis for political reasons. The fascists repeatedly demonstrate that they don't care about public safety or how many lives might be lost because of their irresponsible and incompetent actions. To make matters worse, most of the people harmed in these situations are usually minorities.

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I think Trump has mishandled politically. I would do all immigration enforcement on the border and in pro-legal immigration states. I would ignore pro-human trafficking states and continue to ship human traffickers and gang members to NYC, Chicago, LA, Denver, etc. Let them have what they want - let them and their schools and police deal with it. Let the people have what they want good and hard.

All Trump has to do is keep the democrat leaders denying help to make cities safer. He doesn't need to actually send in the guard without consent. Voters who want safer and cleaner cities will take note. It's a real shame that more Americans will have to die violent deaths before the problems in big cities are taken seriously.