Pressure Needs To Be Put On Baylor Admin To Remove AJ Barber

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The_barBEARian
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BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

True conservatives dont support cancel culture.

We also believe in second chances bcs we are the good guys.

There is room for nuance.... the guy wasn't posting videos of Charlie's death and saying he wish he had been the one to do it.

"Giggles" is inappropriate and he should receive disciplinary action, but not extreme enough to ruin someone's life.



Sorry your friend AJ has got to go. He can have his second chance at another institution. That nuance is why Charlie is dead. Such an individual is a threat to everyone around him. Baylor needs to be made safe and Baylor admins need to show such behavior is not acceptable conduct for students. The fact that an ordinary high school knows this better than the Baylor admins is scary.


You are making a lot of assumptions and projections based on a "giggles" post.

I'll shoot down one of your lies right now... I am not friends with AJ nor have I ever met the guy before.

You are taking a very hardline position and when you are inevitably on the receiving end of your political opponents mis-framing, lying, and projecting things onto you over a mistake you will inevitably make, you'll want people to show some perspective and nuance.

You are the one making assumptions that Midway High School didn't exercise due diligence in their decision. Do you have any evidence to support this claim? If not, you are doing the very thing you are accusing me of.

And if you don't want to be seen as AJ's friend, stop defending his evil behavior. This is not a mistake or a lapse in judgement. This is a willful celebration of the murder of a good Christian man that AJ purposely chose to make public on social media for all to see. He was not ashamed of his words. And even now, I have no evidence showing he has made a public apology. Nor do I see this man making himself available for questions or taking accountability. Instead, I see that his Instagram account was made private and the deletion of his Linkedin account and apparently his Facebook as well. You want to pretend there is some justification here and entertain anything to give some kind of plausible deniability. Yet, you can't point to a single piece of evidence supporting such things. Sorry but you are the one with the unreasonable position here.



I didn't pretend there was justification.

I said he did something wrong and should receive disciplinary action.
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Wangchung said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

True conservatives dont support cancel culture.

We also believe in second chances bcs we are the good guys.

There is room for nuance.... the guy wasn't posting videos of Charlie's death and saying he wish he had been the one to do it.

"Giggles" is inappropriate and he should receive disciplinary action, but not extreme enough to ruin someone's life.



Sorry your friend AJ has got to go. He can have his second chance at another institution. That nuance is why Charlie is dead. Such an individual is a threat to everyone around him. Baylor needs to be made safe and Baylor admins need to show such behavior is not acceptable conduct for students. The fact that an ordinary high school knows this better than the Baylor admins is scary.


You are making a lot of assumptions and projections based on a "giggles" post.

I'll shoot down one of your lies right now... I am not friends with AJ nor have I ever met the guy before.

You are taking a very hardline position and when you are inevitably on the receiving end of your political opponents mis-framing, lying, and projecting things onto you over a mistake you will inevitably make, you'll want people to show some perspective and nuance.

You are the one making assumptions that Midway High School didn't exercise due diligence in their decision. Do you have any evidence to support this claim? If not, you are doing the very thing you are accusing me of.

And if you don't want to be seen as AJ's friend, stop defending his evil behavior. This is not a mistake or a lapse in judgement. This is a willful celebration of the murder of a good Christian man that AJ purposely chose to make public on social media for all to see. He was not ashamed of his words. And even now, I have no evidence showing he has made a public apology. Nor do I see this man making himself available for questions or taking accountability. Instead, I see that his Instagram account was made private and the deletion of his Linkedin account and apparently his Facebook as well. You want to pretend there is some justification here and entertain anything to give some kind of plausible deniability. Yet, you can't point to a single piece of evidence supporting such things. Sorry but you are the one with the unreasonable position here.









Seems like some want to treat cheering the assassination the same as if he accidentally parked in the wrong parking space. "Aw, let's hear his side of him cheering on the murder of an innocent man! Maybe it was an oopsy! Maybe he fell asleep on his keyboard and his face just randomly mashed out the posts! YoU jUsT cAnT kNoW!!!"


I like you Wang despite the fact that you seem to have become a hater.

I didn't argue what he did was right... I just argued that we've literally all done something similar at one time or another and the punishment should fit the crime.


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The_barBEARian said:

Wangchung said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

True conservatives dont support cancel culture.

We also believe in second chances bcs we are the good guys.

There is room for nuance.... the guy wasn't posting videos of Charlie's death and saying he wish he had been the one to do it.

"Giggles" is inappropriate and he should receive disciplinary action, but not extreme enough to ruin someone's life.



Sorry your friend AJ has got to go. He can have his second chance at another institution. That nuance is why Charlie is dead. Such an individual is a threat to everyone around him. Baylor needs to be made safe and Baylor admins need to show such behavior is not acceptable conduct for students. The fact that an ordinary high school knows this better than the Baylor admins is scary.


You are making a lot of assumptions and projections based on a "giggles" post.

I'll shoot down one of your lies right now... I am not friends with AJ nor have I ever met the guy before.

You are taking a very hardline position and when you are inevitably on the receiving end of your political opponents mis-framing, lying, and projecting things onto you over a mistake you will inevitably make, you'll want people to show some perspective and nuance.

You are the one making assumptions that Midway High School didn't exercise due diligence in their decision. Do you have any evidence to support this claim? If not, you are doing the very thing you are accusing me of.

And if you don't want to be seen as AJ's friend, stop defending his evil behavior. This is not a mistake or a lapse in judgement. This is a willful celebration of the murder of a good Christian man that AJ purposely chose to make public on social media for all to see. He was not ashamed of his words. And even now, I have no evidence showing he has made a public apology. Nor do I see this man making himself available for questions or taking accountability. Instead, I see that his Instagram account was made private and the deletion of his Linkedin account and apparently his Facebook as well. You want to pretend there is some justification here and entertain anything to give some kind of plausible deniability. Yet, you can't point to a single piece of evidence supporting such things. Sorry but you are the one with the unreasonable position here.









Seems like some want to treat cheering the assassination the same as if he accidentally parked in the wrong parking space. "Aw, let's hear his side of him cheering on the murder of an innocent man! Maybe it was an oopsy! Maybe he fell asleep on his keyboard and his face just randomly mashed out the posts! YoU jUsT cAnT kNoW!!!"


I like you Wang despite the fact that you seem to have become a hater.

I didn't argue what he did was right... I just argued that we've literally all done something similar at one time or another and the punishment should fit the crime.





I suspect I speak for a lot of people when I say that things I have never done include posting approval of someone's murder because I did not like his politics, or something similar.
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New Rule: I don't believe Lady Elaine Fairchilde should be able to come from the land of make believe and go after Mr. Rogers livelihood. If you're gonna post that this kid should lose his scholarship and be expelled, sharing contact information on who to call, you should do it under your real name.




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D. C. Bear said:

The_barBEARian said:

Wangchung said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

True conservatives dont support cancel culture.

We also believe in second chances bcs we are the good guys.

There is room for nuance.... the guy wasn't posting videos of Charlie's death and saying he wish he had been the one to do it.

"Giggles" is inappropriate and he should receive disciplinary action, but not extreme enough to ruin someone's life.



Sorry your friend AJ has got to go. He can have his second chance at another institution. That nuance is why Charlie is dead. Such an individual is a threat to everyone around him. Baylor needs to be made safe and Baylor admins need to show such behavior is not acceptable conduct for students. The fact that an ordinary high school knows this better than the Baylor admins is scary.


You are making a lot of assumptions and projections based on a "giggles" post.

I'll shoot down one of your lies right now... I am not friends with AJ nor have I ever met the guy before.

You are taking a very hardline position and when you are inevitably on the receiving end of your political opponents mis-framing, lying, and projecting things onto you over a mistake you will inevitably make, you'll want people to show some perspective and nuance.

You are the one making assumptions that Midway High School didn't exercise due diligence in their decision. Do you have any evidence to support this claim? If not, you are doing the very thing you are accusing me of.

And if you don't want to be seen as AJ's friend, stop defending his evil behavior. This is not a mistake or a lapse in judgement. This is a willful celebration of the murder of a good Christian man that AJ purposely chose to make public on social media for all to see. He was not ashamed of his words. And even now, I have no evidence showing he has made a public apology. Nor do I see this man making himself available for questions or taking accountability. Instead, I see that his Instagram account was made private and the deletion of his Linkedin account and apparently his Facebook as well. You want to pretend there is some justification here and entertain anything to give some kind of plausible deniability. Yet, you can't point to a single piece of evidence supporting such things. Sorry but you are the one with the unreasonable position here.









Seems like some want to treat cheering the assassination the same as if he accidentally parked in the wrong parking space. "Aw, let's hear his side of him cheering on the murder of an innocent man! Maybe it was an oopsy! Maybe he fell asleep on his keyboard and his face just randomly mashed out the posts! YoU jUsT cAnT kNoW!!!"


I like you Wang despite the fact that you seem to have become a hater.

I didn't argue what he did was right... I just argued that we've literally all done something similar at one time or another and the punishment should fit the crime.





I suspect I speak for a lot of people when I say that things I have never done include posting approval of someone's murder because I did not like his politics, or something similar.


Did the guy you are tarring and feathering post that?
D. C. Bear
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The_barBEARian said:

D. C. Bear said:

The_barBEARian said:

Wangchung said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

True conservatives dont support cancel culture.

We also believe in second chances bcs we are the good guys.

There is room for nuance.... the guy wasn't posting videos of Charlie's death and saying he wish he had been the one to do it.

"Giggles" is inappropriate and he should receive disciplinary action, but not extreme enough to ruin someone's life.



Sorry your friend AJ has got to go. He can have his second chance at another institution. That nuance is why Charlie is dead. Such an individual is a threat to everyone around him. Baylor needs to be made safe and Baylor admins need to show such behavior is not acceptable conduct for students. The fact that an ordinary high school knows this better than the Baylor admins is scary.


You are making a lot of assumptions and projections based on a "giggles" post.

I'll shoot down one of your lies right now... I am not friends with AJ nor have I ever met the guy before.

You are taking a very hardline position and when you are inevitably on the receiving end of your political opponents mis-framing, lying, and projecting things onto you over a mistake you will inevitably make, you'll want people to show some perspective and nuance.

You are the one making assumptions that Midway High School didn't exercise due diligence in their decision. Do you have any evidence to support this claim? If not, you are doing the very thing you are accusing me of.

And if you don't want to be seen as AJ's friend, stop defending his evil behavior. This is not a mistake or a lapse in judgement. This is a willful celebration of the murder of a good Christian man that AJ purposely chose to make public on social media for all to see. He was not ashamed of his words. And even now, I have no evidence showing he has made a public apology. Nor do I see this man making himself available for questions or taking accountability. Instead, I see that his Instagram account was made private and the deletion of his Linkedin account and apparently his Facebook as well. You want to pretend there is some justification here and entertain anything to give some kind of plausible deniability. Yet, you can't point to a single piece of evidence supporting such things. Sorry but you are the one with the unreasonable position here.









Seems like some want to treat cheering the assassination the same as if he accidentally parked in the wrong parking space. "Aw, let's hear his side of him cheering on the murder of an innocent man! Maybe it was an oopsy! Maybe he fell asleep on his keyboard and his face just randomly mashed out the posts! YoU jUsT cAnT kNoW!!!"


I like you Wang despite the fact that you seem to have become a hater.

I didn't argue what he did was right... I just argued that we've literally all done something similar at one time or another and the punishment should fit the crime.





I suspect I speak for a lot of people when I say that things I have never done include posting approval of someone's murder because I did not like his politics, or something similar.


Did the guy you are tarring and feathering post that?


I'm "giggling" at someone's murder? Yes, I'd say that's "approving" of it, or something similar.

Wangchung
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The_barBEARian said:

Wangchung said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

True conservatives dont support cancel culture.

We also believe in second chances bcs we are the good guys.

There is room for nuance.... the guy wasn't posting videos of Charlie's death and saying he wish he had been the one to do it.

"Giggles" is inappropriate and he should receive disciplinary action, but not extreme enough to ruin someone's life.



Sorry your friend AJ has got to go. He can have his second chance at another institution. That nuance is why Charlie is dead. Such an individual is a threat to everyone around him. Baylor needs to be made safe and Baylor admins need to show such behavior is not acceptable conduct for students. The fact that an ordinary high school knows this better than the Baylor admins is scary.


You are making a lot of assumptions and projections based on a "giggles" post.

I'll shoot down one of your lies right now... I am not friends with AJ nor have I ever met the guy before.

You are taking a very hardline position and when you are inevitably on the receiving end of your political opponents mis-framing, lying, and projecting things onto you over a mistake you will inevitably make, you'll want people to show some perspective and nuance.

You are the one making assumptions that Midway High School didn't exercise due diligence in their decision. Do you have any evidence to support this claim? If not, you are doing the very thing you are accusing me of.

And if you don't want to be seen as AJ's friend, stop defending his evil behavior. This is not a mistake or a lapse in judgement. This is a willful celebration of the murder of a good Christian man that AJ purposely chose to make public on social media for all to see. He was not ashamed of his words. And even now, I have no evidence showing he has made a public apology. Nor do I see this man making himself available for questions or taking accountability. Instead, I see that his Instagram account was made private and the deletion of his Linkedin account and apparently his Facebook as well. You want to pretend there is some justification here and entertain anything to give some kind of plausible deniability. Yet, you can't point to a single piece of evidence supporting such things. Sorry but you are the one with the unreasonable position here.









Seems like some want to treat cheering the assassination the same as if he accidentally parked in the wrong parking space. "Aw, let's hear his side of him cheering on the murder of an innocent man! Maybe it was an oopsy! Maybe he fell asleep on his keyboard and his face just randomly mashed out the posts! YoU jUsT cAnT kNoW!!!"


I like you Wang despite the fact that you seem to have become a hater.

I didn't argue what he did was right... I just argued that we've literally all done something similar at one time or another and the punishment should fit the crime.



Not a hater, I'm just exhausted by all the second, third, fourth etc chances those who state they literally want us dead seem to get. Outside our circle of influence? Okay, let it go. But this creep is representing Baylor. That matters. That is definitely within our circle of influence and we should all be acting to cut that cancer out.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

BaylorFTW
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The_barBEARian said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

True conservatives dont support cancel culture.

We also believe in second chances bcs we are the good guys.

There is room for nuance.... the guy wasn't posting videos of Charlie's death and saying he wish he had been the one to do it.

"Giggles" is inappropriate and he should receive disciplinary action, but not extreme enough to ruin someone's life.



Sorry your friend AJ has got to go. He can have his second chance at another institution. That nuance is why Charlie is dead. Such an individual is a threat to everyone around him. Baylor needs to be made safe and Baylor admins need to show such behavior is not acceptable conduct for students. The fact that an ordinary high school knows this better than the Baylor admins is scary.


You are making a lot of assumptions and projections based on a "giggles" post.

I'll shoot down one of your lies right now... I am not friends with AJ nor have I ever met the guy before.

You are taking a very hardline position and when you are inevitably on the receiving end of your political opponents mis-framing, lying, and projecting things onto you over a mistake you will inevitably make, you'll want people to show some perspective and nuance.

You are the one making assumptions that Midway High School didn't exercise due diligence in their decision. Do you have any evidence to support this claim? If not, you are doing the very thing you are accusing me of.

And if you don't want to be seen as AJ's friend, stop defending his evil behavior. This is not a mistake or a lapse in judgement. This is a willful celebration of the murder of a good Christian man that AJ purposely chose to make public on social media for all to see. He was not ashamed of his words. And even now, I have no evidence showing he has made a public apology. Nor do I see this man making himself available for questions or taking accountability. Instead, I see that his Instagram account was made private and the deletion of his Linkedin account and apparently his Facebook as well. You want to pretend there is some justification here and entertain anything to give some kind of plausible deniability. Yet, you can't point to a single piece of evidence supporting such things. Sorry but you are the one with the unreasonable position here.



I didn't pretend there was justification.

I said he did something wrong and should receive disciplinary action.

Sorry that is just not good enough. You are taking this issue way, way too lightly and not appreciating the seriousness of the radicalization effect on students. The shooting happened at UVU but could have just as easily happened on the Baylor campus. The Baylor admins need to be extremely concerned about the safety of the students and ensure there is no occurrence at Baylor. That starts by taking strong action here so everyone sees it is not to be tolerated. They must get the snakes out of the garden.
Mitch Blood Green
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D. C. Bear said:

The_barBEARian said:

D. C. Bear said:

The_barBEARian said:

Wangchung said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

True conservatives dont support cancel culture.

We also believe in second chances bcs we are the good guys.

There is room for nuance.... the guy wasn't posting videos of Charlie's death and saying he wish he had been the one to do it.

"Giggles" is inappropriate and he should receive disciplinary action, but not extreme enough to ruin someone's life.



Sorry your friend AJ has got to go. He can have his second chance at another institution. That nuance is why Charlie is dead. Such an individual is a threat to everyone around him. Baylor needs to be made safe and Baylor admins need to show such behavior is not acceptable conduct for students. The fact that an ordinary high school knows this better than the Baylor admins is scary.


You are making a lot of assumptions and projections based on a "giggles" post.

I'll shoot down one of your lies right now... I am not friends with AJ nor have I ever met the guy before.

You are taking a very hardline position and when you are inevitably on the receiving end of your political opponents mis-framing, lying, and projecting things onto you over a mistake you will inevitably make, you'll want people to show some perspective and nuance.

You are the one making assumptions that Midway High School didn't exercise due diligence in their decision. Do you have any evidence to support this claim? If not, you are doing the very thing you are accusing me of.

And if you don't want to be seen as AJ's friend, stop defending his evil behavior. This is not a mistake or a lapse in judgement. This is a willful celebration of the murder of a good Christian man that AJ purposely chose to make public on social media for all to see. He was not ashamed of his words. And even now, I have no evidence showing he has made a public apology. Nor do I see this man making himself available for questions or taking accountability. Instead, I see that his Instagram account was made private and the deletion of his Linkedin account and apparently his Facebook as well. You want to pretend there is some justification here and entertain anything to give some kind of plausible deniability. Yet, you can't point to a single piece of evidence supporting such things. Sorry but you are the one with the unreasonable position here.









Seems like some want to treat cheering the assassination the same as if he accidentally parked in the wrong parking space. "Aw, let's hear his side of him cheering on the murder of an innocent man! Maybe it was an oopsy! Maybe he fell asleep on his keyboard and his face just randomly mashed out the posts! YoU jUsT cAnT kNoW!!!"


I like you Wang despite the fact that you seem to have become a hater.

I didn't argue what he did was right... I just argued that we've literally all done something similar at one time or another and the punishment should fit the crime.





I suspect I speak for a lot of people when I say that things I have never done include posting approval of someone's murder because I did not like his politics, or something similar.


Did the guy you are tarring and feathering post that?


I'm "giggling" at someone's murder? Yes, I'd say that's "approving" of it, or something similar.




How did you handle George Floyd, including demanding that someone be fired?

The thing I know about me is that I've been dumb. I'd hate to have been derailed for something I did at 22.
The_barBEARian
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D. C. Bear said:

The_barBEARian said:

D. C. Bear said:

The_barBEARian said:

Wangchung said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

True conservatives dont support cancel culture.

We also believe in second chances bcs we are the good guys.

There is room for nuance.... the guy wasn't posting videos of Charlie's death and saying he wish he had been the one to do it.

"Giggles" is inappropriate and he should receive disciplinary action, but not extreme enough to ruin someone's life.



Sorry your friend AJ has got to go. He can have his second chance at another institution. That nuance is why Charlie is dead. Such an individual is a threat to everyone around him. Baylor needs to be made safe and Baylor admins need to show such behavior is not acceptable conduct for students. The fact that an ordinary high school knows this better than the Baylor admins is scary.


You are making a lot of assumptions and projections based on a "giggles" post.

I'll shoot down one of your lies right now... I am not friends with AJ nor have I ever met the guy before.

You are taking a very hardline position and when you are inevitably on the receiving end of your political opponents mis-framing, lying, and projecting things onto you over a mistake you will inevitably make, you'll want people to show some perspective and nuance.

You are the one making assumptions that Midway High School didn't exercise due diligence in their decision. Do you have any evidence to support this claim? If not, you are doing the very thing you are accusing me of.

And if you don't want to be seen as AJ's friend, stop defending his evil behavior. This is not a mistake or a lapse in judgement. This is a willful celebration of the murder of a good Christian man that AJ purposely chose to make public on social media for all to see. He was not ashamed of his words. And even now, I have no evidence showing he has made a public apology. Nor do I see this man making himself available for questions or taking accountability. Instead, I see that his Instagram account was made private and the deletion of his Linkedin account and apparently his Facebook as well. You want to pretend there is some justification here and entertain anything to give some kind of plausible deniability. Yet, you can't point to a single piece of evidence supporting such things. Sorry but you are the one with the unreasonable position here.









Seems like some want to treat cheering the assassination the same as if he accidentally parked in the wrong parking space. "Aw, let's hear his side of him cheering on the murder of an innocent man! Maybe it was an oopsy! Maybe he fell asleep on his keyboard and his face just randomly mashed out the posts! YoU jUsT cAnT kNoW!!!"


I like you Wang despite the fact that you seem to have become a hater.

I didn't argue what he did was right... I just argued that we've literally all done something similar at one time or another and the punishment should fit the crime.





I suspect I speak for a lot of people when I say that things I have never done include posting approval of someone's murder because I did not like his politics, or something similar.


Did the guy you are tarring and feathering post that?


I'm "giggling" at someone's murder? Yes, I'd say that's "approving" of it, or something similar.




This is exhausting... alright go ahead and take the guy's scalp.

This is why Derek Chauvin is in jail right now.
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BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

True conservatives dont support cancel culture.

We also believe in second chances bcs we are the good guys.

There is room for nuance.... the guy wasn't posting videos of Charlie's death and saying he wish he had been the one to do it.

"Giggles" is inappropriate and he should receive disciplinary action, but not extreme enough to ruin someone's life.



Sorry your friend AJ has got to go. He can have his second chance at another institution. That nuance is why Charlie is dead. Such an individual is a threat to everyone around him. Baylor needs to be made safe and Baylor admins need to show such behavior is not acceptable conduct for students. The fact that an ordinary high school knows this better than the Baylor admins is scary.


You are making a lot of assumptions and projections based on a "giggles" post.

I'll shoot down one of your lies right now... I am not friends with AJ nor have I ever met the guy before.

You are taking a very hardline position and when you are inevitably on the receiving end of your political opponents mis-framing, lying, and projecting things onto you over a mistake you will inevitably make, you'll want people to show some perspective and nuance.

You are the one making assumptions that Midway High School didn't exercise due diligence in their decision. Do you have any evidence to support this claim? If not, you are doing the very thing you are accusing me of.

And if you don't want to be seen as AJ's friend, stop defending his evil behavior. This is not a mistake or a lapse in judgement. This is a willful celebration of the murder of a good Christian man that AJ purposely chose to make public on social media for all to see. He was not ashamed of his words. And even now, I have no evidence showing he has made a public apology. Nor do I see this man making himself available for questions or taking accountability. Instead, I see that his Instagram account was made private and the deletion of his Linkedin account and apparently his Facebook as well. You want to pretend there is some justification here and entertain anything to give some kind of plausible deniability. Yet, you can't point to a single piece of evidence supporting such things. Sorry but you are the one with the unreasonable position here.



I didn't pretend there was justification.

I said he did something wrong and should receive disciplinary action.

Sorry that is just not good enough. You are taking this issue way, way too lightly and not appreciating the seriousness of the radicalization effect on students. The shooting happened at UVU but could have just as easily happened on the Baylor campus. The Baylor admins need to be extremely concerned about the safety of the students and ensure there is no occurrence at Baylor. That starts by taking strong action here so everyone sees it is not to be tolerated. They must get the snakes out of the garden.


Would you give the grad student an opportunity to present his side?
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Mitch Blood Green said:

D. C. Bear said:

The_barBEARian said:

D. C. Bear said:

The_barBEARian said:

Wangchung said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

inkTrue conservatives dont support cancel culture.

We also believe in second chances bcs we are the good guys.

There is room for nuance.... the guy wasn't posting videos of Charlie's death and saying he wish he had been the one to do it.

"Giggles" is inappropriate and he should receive disciplinary action, but not extreme enough to ruin someone's life.



Sorry your friend AJ has got to go. He can have his second chance at another institution. That nuance is why Charlie is dead. Such an individual is a threat to everyone around him. Baylor needs to be made safe and Baylor admins need to show such behavior is not acceptable conduct for students. The fact that an ordinary high school knows this better than the Baylor admins is scary.


You are making a lot of assumptions and projections based on a "giggles" post.

I'll shoot down one of your lies right now... I am not friends with AJ nor have I ever met the guy before.

You are taking a very hardline position and when you are inevitably on the receiving end of your political opponents mis-framing, lying, and projecting things onto you over a mistake you will inevitably make, you'll want people to show some perspective and nuance.

You are the one making assumptions that Midway High School didn't exercise due diligence in their decision. Do you have any evidence to support this claim? If not, you are doing the very thing you are accusing me of.

And if you don't want to be seen as AJ's friend, stop defending his evil behavior. This is not a mistake or a lapse in judgement. This is a willful celebration of the murder of a good Christian man that AJ purposely chose to make public on social media for all to see. He was not ashamed of his words. And even now, I have no evidence showing he has made a public apology. Nor do I see this man making himself available for questions or taking accountability. Instead, I see that his Instagram account was made private and the deletion of his Linkedin account and apparently his Facebook as well. You want to pretend there is some justification here and entertain anything to give some kind of plausible deniability. Yet, you can't point to a single piece of evidence supporting such things. Sorry but you are the one with the unreasonable position here.










Seems like some want to treat cheering the assassination the same as if he accidentally parked in the wrong parking space. "Aw, let's hear his side of him cheering on the murder of an innocent man! Maybe it was an oopsy! Maybe he fell asleep on his keyboard and his face just randomly mashed out the posts! YoU jUsT cAnT kNoW!!!"


I like you Wang despite the fact that you seem to have become a hater.

I didn't argue what he did was right... I just argued that we've literally all done something similar at one time or another and the punishment should fit the crime.





I suspect I speak for a lot of people when I say that things I have never done include posting approval of someone's murder because I did not like his politics, or something similar.


Did the guy you are tarring and feathering post that?


I'm "giggling" at someone's murder? Yes, I'd say that's "approving" of it, or something similar.


How did you handle George Floyd, including demanding that someone be fired?

The thing I know about me is that I've been dumb. I'd hate to have been derailed for something I did at 22.

So, in your opinion, we should let Kirk's assassin walk? He just did something wrong at 21-22? And his life shouldnt be derailed?
"All assassins had a full-length mirror in their rooms, because it would be a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you were badly dressed."
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Osodecentx said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

True conservatives dont support cancel culture.

We also believe in second chances bcs we are the good guys.

There is room for nuance.... the guy wasn't posting videos of Charlie's death and saying he wish he had been the one to do it.

"Giggles" is inappropriate and he should receive disciplinary action, but not extreme enough to ruin someone's life.



Sorry your friend AJ has got to go. He can have his second chance at another institution. That nuance is why Charlie is dead. Such an individual is a threat to everyone around him. Baylor needs to be made safe and Baylor admins need to show such behavior is not acceptable conduct for students. The fact that an ordinary high school knows this better than the Baylor admins is scary.


You are making a lot of assumptions and projections based on a "giggles" post.

I'll shoot down one of your lies right now... I am not friends with AJ nor have I ever met the guy before.

You are taking a very hardline position and when you are inevitably on the receiving end of your political opponents mis-framing, lying, and projecting things onto you over a mistake you will inevitably make, you'll want people to show some perspective and nuance.

You are the one making assumptions that Midway High School didn't exercise due diligence in their decision. Do you have any evidence to support this claim? If not, you are doing the very thing you are accusing me of.

And if you don't want to be seen as AJ's friend, stop defending his evil behavior. This is not a mistake or a lapse in judgement. This is a willful celebration of the murder of a good Christian man that AJ purposely chose to make public on social media for all to see. He was not ashamed of his words. And even now, I have no evidence showing he has made a public apology. Nor do I see this man making himself available for questions or taking accountability. Instead, I see that his Instagram account was made private and the deletion of his Linkedin account and apparently his Facebook as well. You want to pretend there is some justification here and entertain anything to give some kind of plausible deniability. Yet, you can't point to a single piece of evidence supporting such things. Sorry but you are the one with the unreasonable position here.



I didn't pretend there was justification.

I said he did something wrong and should receive disciplinary action.

Sorry that is just not good enough. You are taking this issue way, way too lightly and not appreciating the seriousness of the radicalization effect on students. The shooting happened at UVU but could have just as easily happened on the Baylor campus. The Baylor admins need to be extremely concerned about the safety of the students and ensure there is no occurrence at Baylor. That starts by taking strong action here so everyone sees it is not to be tolerated. They must get the snakes out of the garden.


Would you give the grad student an opportunity to present his side?

Do you have any evidence that Midway High School did not do so?
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Assassin said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

D. C. Bear said:

The_barBEARian said:

D. C. Bear said:

The_barBEARian said:

Wangchung said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

inkTrue conservatives dont support cancel culture.

We also believe in second chances bcs we are the good guys.

There is room for nuance.... the guy wasn't posting videos of Charlie's death and saying he wish he had been the one to do it.

"Giggles" is inappropriate and he should receive disciplinary action, but not extreme enough to ruin someone's life.



Sorry your friend AJ has got to go. He can have his second chance at another institution. That nuance is why Charlie is dead. Such an individual is a threat to everyone around him. Baylor needs to be made safe and Baylor admins need to show such behavior is not acceptable conduct for students. The fact that an ordinary high school knows this better than the Baylor admins is scary.


You are making a lot of assumptions and projections based on a "giggles" post.

I'll shoot down one of your lies right now... I am not friends with AJ nor have I ever met the guy before.

You are taking a very hardline position and when you are inevitably on the receiving end of your political opponents mis-framing, lying, and projecting things onto you over a mistake you will inevitably make, you'll want people to show some perspective and nuance.

You are the one making assumptions that Midway High School didn't exercise due diligence in their decision. Do you have any evidence to support this claim? If not, you are doing the very thing you are accusing me of.

And if you don't want to be seen as AJ's friend, stop defending his evil behavior. This is not a mistake or a lapse in judgement. This is a willful celebration of the murder of a good Christian man that AJ purposely chose to make public on social media for all to see. He was not ashamed of his words. And even now, I have no evidence showing he has made a public apology. Nor do I see this man making himself available for questions or taking accountability. Instead, I see that his Instagram account was made private and the deletion of his Linkedin account and apparently his Facebook as well. You want to pretend there is some justification here and entertain anything to give some kind of plausible deniability. Yet, you can't point to a single piece of evidence supporting such things. Sorry but you are the one with the unreasonable position here.










Seems like some want to treat cheering the assassination the same as if he accidentally parked in the wrong parking space. "Aw, let's hear his side of him cheering on the murder of an innocent man! Maybe it was an oopsy! Maybe he fell asleep on his keyboard and his face just randomly mashed out the posts! YoU jUsT cAnT kNoW!!!"


I like you Wang despite the fact that you seem to have become a hater.

I didn't argue what he did was right... I just argued that we've literally all done something similar at one time or another and the punishment should fit the crime.





I suspect I speak for a lot of people when I say that things I have never done include posting approval of someone's murder because I did not like his politics, or something similar.


Did the guy you are tarring and feathering post that?


I'm "giggling" at someone's murder? Yes, I'd say that's "approving" of it, or something similar.


How did you handle George Floyd, including demanding that someone be fired?

The thing I know about me is that I've been dumb. I'd hate to have been derailed for something I did at 22.

So, in your opinion, we should let Kirk's assassin walk? He just did something wrong at 21-22?


Argh!
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Osodecentx said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

True conservatives dont support cancel culture.

We also believe in second chances bcs we are the good guys.

There is room for nuance.... the guy wasn't posting videos of Charlie's death and saying he wish he had been the one to do it.

"Giggles" is inappropriate and he should receive disciplinary action, but not extreme enough to ruin someone's life.



Sorry your friend AJ has got to go. He can have his second chance at another institution. That nuance is why Charlie is dead. Such an individual is a threat to everyone around him. Baylor needs to be made safe and Baylor admins need to show such behavior is not acceptable conduct for students. The fact that an ordinary high school knows this better than the Baylor admins is scary.


You are making a lot of assumptions and projections based on a "giggles" post.

I'll shoot down one of your lies right now... I am not friends with AJ nor have I ever met the guy before.

You are taking a very hardline position and when you are inevitably on the receiving end of your political opponents mis-framing, lying, and projecting things onto you over a mistake you will inevitably make, you'll want people to show some perspective and nuance.

You are the one making assumptions that Midway High School didn't exercise due diligence in their decision. Do you have any evidence to support this claim? If not, you are doing the very thing you are accusing me of.

And if you don't want to be seen as AJ's friend, stop defending his evil behavior. This is not a mistake or a lapse in judgement. This is a willful celebration of the murder of a good Christian man that AJ purposely chose to make public on social media for all to see. He was not ashamed of his words. And even now, I have no evidence showing he has made a public apology. Nor do I see this man making himself available for questions or taking accountability. Instead, I see that his Instagram account was made private and the deletion of his Linkedin account and apparently his Facebook as well. You want to pretend there is some justification here and entertain anything to give some kind of plausible deniability. Yet, you can't point to a single piece of evidence supporting such things. Sorry but you are the one with the unreasonable position here.



I didn't pretend there was justification.

I said he did something wrong and should receive disciplinary action.

Sorry that is just not good enough. You are taking this issue way, way too lightly and not appreciating the seriousness of the radicalization effect on students. The shooting happened at UVU but could have just as easily happened on the Baylor campus. The Baylor admins need to be extremely concerned about the safety of the students and ensure there is no occurrence at Baylor. That starts by taking strong action here so everyone sees it is not to be tolerated. They must get the snakes out of the garden.


Would you give the grad student an opportunity to present his side?
He already presented his side. That's what we are all talking about.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

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BaylorFTW said:

Osodecentx said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

True conservatives dont support cancel culture.

We also believe in second chances bcs we are the good guys.

There is room for nuance.... the guy wasn't posting videos of Charlie's death and saying he wish he had been the one to do it.

"Giggles" is inappropriate and he should receive disciplinary action, but not extreme enough to ruin someone's life.



Sorry your friend AJ has got to go. He can have his second chance at another institution. That nuance is why Charlie is dead. Such an individual is a threat to everyone around him. Baylor needs to be made safe and Baylor admins need to show such behavior is not acceptable conduct for students. The fact that an ordinary high school knows this better than the Baylor admins is scary.


You are making a lot of assumptions and projections based on a "giggles" post.

I'll shoot down one of your lies right now... I am not friends with AJ nor have I ever met the guy before.

You are taking a very hardline position and when you are inevitably on the receiving end of your political opponents mis-framing, lying, and projecting things onto you over a mistake you will inevitably make, you'll want people to show some perspective and nuance.

You are the one making assumptions that Midway High School didn't exercise due diligence in their decision. Do you have any evidence to support this claim? If not, you are doing the very thing you are accusing me of.

And if you don't want to be seen as AJ's friend, stop defending his evil behavior. This is not a mistake or a lapse in judgement. This is a willful celebration of the murder of a good Christian man that AJ purposely chose to make public on social media for all to see. He was not ashamed of his words. And even now, I have no evidence showing he has made a public apology. Nor do I see this man making himself available for questions or taking accountability. Instead, I see that his Instagram account was made private and the deletion of his Linkedin account and apparently his Facebook as well. You want to pretend there is some justification here and entertain anything to give some kind of plausible deniability. Yet, you can't point to a single piece of evidence supporting such things. Sorry but you are the one with the unreasonable position here.



I didn't pretend there was justification.

I said he did something wrong and should receive disciplinary action.

Sorry that is just not good enough. You are taking this issue way, way too lightly and not appreciating the seriousness of the radicalization effect on students. The shooting happened at UVU but could have just as easily happened on the Baylor campus. The Baylor admins need to be extremely concerned about the safety of the students and ensure there is no occurrence at Baylor. That starts by taking strong action here so everyone sees it is not to be tolerated. They must get the snakes out of the garden.


Would you give the grad student an opportunity to present his side?

Do you have any evidence that Midway High School did not do so?


I assume MISD did. Their actions weigh heavily against the young man
We were discussing what Baylor should do
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Wangchung said:

Osodecentx said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

True conservatives dont support cancel culture.

We also believe in second chances bcs we are the good guys.

There is room for nuance.... the guy wasn't posting videos of Charlie's death and saying he wish he had been the one to do it.

"Giggles" is inappropriate and he should receive disciplinary action, but not extreme enough to ruin someone's life.



Sorry your friend AJ has got to go. He can have his second chance at another institution. That nuance is why Charlie is dead. Such an individual is a threat to everyone around him. Baylor needs to be made safe and Baylor admins need to show such behavior is not acceptable conduct for students. The fact that an ordinary high school knows this better than the Baylor admins is scary.


You are making a lot of assumptions and projections based on a "giggles" post.

I'll shoot down one of your lies right now... I am not friends with AJ nor have I ever met the guy before.

You are taking a very hardline position and when you are inevitably on the receiving end of your political opponents mis-framing, lying, and projecting things onto you over a mistake you will inevitably make, you'll want people to show some perspective and nuance.

You are the one making assumptions that Midway High School didn't exercise due diligence in their decision. Do you have any evidence to support this claim? If not, you are doing the very thing you are accusing me of.

And if you don't want to be seen as AJ's friend, stop defending his evil behavior. This is not a mistake or a lapse in judgement. This is a willful celebration of the murder of a good Christian man that AJ purposely chose to make public on social media for all to see. He was not ashamed of his words. And even now, I have no evidence showing he has made a public apology. Nor do I see this man making himself available for questions or taking accountability. Instead, I see that his Instagram account was made private and the deletion of his Linkedin account and apparently his Facebook as well. You want to pretend there is some justification here and entertain anything to give some kind of plausible deniability. Yet, you can't point to a single piece of evidence supporting such things. Sorry but you are the one with the unreasonable position here.



I didn't pretend there was justification.

I said he did something wrong and should receive disciplinary action.

Sorry that is just not good enough. You are taking this issue way, way too lightly and not appreciating the seriousness of the radicalization effect on students. The shooting happened at UVU but could have just as easily happened on the Baylor campus. The Baylor admins need to be extremely concerned about the safety of the students and ensure there is no occurrence at Baylor. That starts by taking strong action here so everyone sees it is not to be tolerated. They must get the snakes out of the garden.


Would you give the grad student an opportunity to present his side?

He already presented his side. That's what we are all talking about.

Yes, that is a good point.
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Wangchung said:

Osodecentx said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

True conservatives dont support cancel culture.

We also believe in second chances bcs we are the good guys.

There is room for nuance.... the guy wasn't posting videos of Charlie's death and saying he wish he had been the one to do it.

"Giggles" is inappropriate and he should receive disciplinary action, but not extreme enough to ruin someone's life.



Sorry your friend AJ has got to go. He can have his second chance at another institution. That nuance is why Charlie is dead. Such an individual is a threat to everyone around him. Baylor needs to be made safe and Baylor admins need to show such behavior is not acceptable conduct for students. The fact that an ordinary high school knows this better than the Baylor admins is scary.


You are making a lot of assumptions and projections based on a "giggles" post.

I'll shoot down one of your lies right now... I am not friends with AJ nor have I ever met the guy before.

You are taking a very hardline position and when you are inevitably on the receiving end of your political opponents mis-framing, lying, and projecting things onto you over a mistake you will inevitably make, you'll want people to show some perspective and nuance.

You are the one making assumptions that Midway High School didn't exercise due diligence in their decision. Do you have any evidence to support this claim? If not, you are doing the very thing you are accusing me of.

And if you don't want to be seen as AJ's friend, stop defending his evil behavior. This is not a mistake or a lapse in judgement. This is a willful celebration of the murder of a good Christian man that AJ purposely chose to make public on social media for all to see. He was not ashamed of his words. And even now, I have no evidence showing he has made a public apology. Nor do I see this man making himself available for questions or taking accountability. Instead, I see that his Instagram account was made private and the deletion of his Linkedin account and apparently his Facebook as well. You want to pretend there is some justification here and entertain anything to give some kind of plausible deniability. Yet, you can't point to a single piece of evidence supporting such things. Sorry but you are the one with the unreasonable position here.



I didn't pretend there was justification.

I said he did something wrong and should receive disciplinary action.

Sorry that is just not good enough. You are taking this issue way, way too lightly and not appreciating the seriousness of the radicalization effect on students. The shooting happened at UVU but could have just as easily happened on the Baylor campus. The Baylor admins need to be extremely concerned about the safety of the students and ensure there is no occurrence at Baylor. That starts by taking strong action here so everyone sees it is not to be tolerated. They must get the snakes out of the garden.


Would you give the grad student an opportunity to present his side?
He already presented his side. That's what we are all talking about.

He presented his side to Baylor?
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Osodecentx said:

Wangchung said:

Osodecentx said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

True conservatives dont support cancel culture.

We also believe in second chances bcs we are the good guys.

There is room for nuance.... the guy wasn't posting videos of Charlie's death and saying he wish he had been the one to do it.

"Giggles" is inappropriate and he should receive disciplinary action, but not extreme enough to ruin someone's life.



Sorry your friend AJ has got to go. He can have his second chance at another institution. That nuance is why Charlie is dead. Such an individual is a threat to everyone around him. Baylor needs to be made safe and Baylor admins need to show such behavior is not acceptable conduct for students. The fact that an ordinary high school knows this better than the Baylor admins is scary.


You are making a lot of assumptions and projections based on a "giggles" post.

I'll shoot down one of your lies right now... I am not friends with AJ nor have I ever met the guy before.

You are taking a very hardline position and when you are inevitably on the receiving end of your political opponents mis-framing, lying, and projecting things onto you over a mistake you will inevitably make, you'll want people to show some perspective and nuance.

You are the one making assumptions that Midway High School didn't exercise due diligence in their decision. Do you have any evidence to support this claim? If not, you are doing the very thing you are accusing me of.

And if you don't want to be seen as AJ's friend, stop defending his evil behavior. This is not a mistake or a lapse in judgement. This is a willful celebration of the murder of a good Christian man that AJ purposely chose to make public on social media for all to see. He was not ashamed of his words. And even now, I have no evidence showing he has made a public apology. Nor do I see this man making himself available for questions or taking accountability. Instead, I see that his Instagram account was made private and the deletion of his Linkedin account and apparently his Facebook as well. You want to pretend there is some justification here and entertain anything to give some kind of plausible deniability. Yet, you can't point to a single piece of evidence supporting such things. Sorry but you are the one with the unreasonable position here.



I didn't pretend there was justification.

I said he did something wrong and should receive disciplinary action.

Sorry that is just not good enough. You are taking this issue way, way too lightly and not appreciating the seriousness of the radicalization effect on students. The shooting happened at UVU but could have just as easily happened on the Baylor campus. The Baylor admins need to be extremely concerned about the safety of the students and ensure there is no occurrence at Baylor. That starts by taking strong action here so everyone sees it is not to be tolerated. They must get the snakes out of the garden.


Would you give the grad student an opportunity to present his side?
He already presented his side. That's what we are all talking about.

He presented his side to Baylor?
I assume Baylor admin have access to social media to see his words. His words that he shared that stated "his side".
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

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Osodecentx said:

Wangchung said:

Osodecentx said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

True conservatives dont support cancel culture.

We also believe in second chances bcs we are the good guys.

There is room for nuance.... the guy wasn't posting videos of Charlie's death and saying he wish he had been the one to do it.

"Giggles" is inappropriate and he should receive disciplinary action, but not extreme enough to ruin someone's life.



Sorry your friend AJ has got to go. He can have his second chance at another institution. That nuance is why Charlie is dead. Such an individual is a threat to everyone around him. Baylor needs to be made safe and Baylor admins need to show such behavior is not acceptable conduct for students. The fact that an ordinary high school knows this better than the Baylor admins is scary.


You are making a lot of assumptions and projections based on a "giggles" post.

I'll shoot down one of your lies right now... I am not friends with AJ nor have I ever met the guy before.

You are taking a very hardline position and when you are inevitably on the receiving end of your political opponents mis-framing, lying, and projecting things onto you over a mistake you will inevitably make, you'll want people to show some perspective and nuance.

You are the one making assumptions that Midway High School didn't exercise due diligence in their decision. Do you have any evidence to support this claim? If not, you are doing the very thing you are accusing me of.

And if you don't want to be seen as AJ's friend, stop defending his evil behavior. This is not a mistake or a lapse in judgement. This is a willful celebration of the murder of a good Christian man that AJ purposely chose to make public on social media for all to see. He was not ashamed of his words. And even now, I have no evidence showing he has made a public apology. Nor do I see this man making himself available for questions or taking accountability. Instead, I see that his Instagram account was made private and the deletion of his Linkedin account and apparently his Facebook as well. You want to pretend there is some justification here and entertain anything to give some kind of plausible deniability. Yet, you can't point to a single piece of evidence supporting such things. Sorry but you are the one with the unreasonable position here.



I didn't pretend there was justification.

I said he did something wrong and should receive disciplinary action.

Sorry that is just not good enough. You are taking this issue way, way too lightly and not appreciating the seriousness of the radicalization effect on students. The shooting happened at UVU but could have just as easily happened on the Baylor campus. The Baylor admins need to be extremely concerned about the safety of the students and ensure there is no occurrence at Baylor. That starts by taking strong action here so everyone sees it is not to be tolerated. They must get the snakes out of the garden.


Would you give the grad student an opportunity to present his side?

He already presented his side. That's what we are all talking about.

He presented his side to Baylor?

It sounds like he presented his side to the world. Doubtful he will ever get a job in the real world again
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The_barBEARian said:

D. C. Bear said:

The_barBEARian said:

D. C. Bear said:

The_barBEARian said:

Wangchung said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

True conservatives dont support cancel culture.

We also believe in second chances bcs we are the good guys.

There is room for nuance.... the guy wasn't posting videos of Charlie's death and saying he wish he had been the one to do it.

"Giggles" is inappropriate and he should receive disciplinary action, but not extreme enough to ruin someone's life.



Sorry your friend AJ has got to go. He can have his second chance at another institution. That nuance is why Charlie is dead. Such an individual is a threat to everyone around him. Baylor needs to be made safe and Baylor admins need to show such behavior is not acceptable conduct for students. The fact that an ordinary high school knows this better than the Baylor admins is scary.


You are making a lot of assumptions and projections based on a "giggles" post.

I'll shoot down one of your lies right now... I am not friends with AJ nor have I ever met the guy before.

You are taking a very hardline position and when you are inevitably on the receiving end of your political opponents mis-framing, lying, and projecting things onto you over a mistake you will inevitably make, you'll want people to show some perspective and nuance.

You are the one making assumptions that Midway High School didn't exercise due diligence in their decision. Do you have any evidence to support this claim? If not, you are doing the very thing you are accusing me of.

And if you don't want to be seen as AJ's friend, stop defending his evil behavior. This is not a mistake or a lapse in judgement. This is a willful celebration of the murder of a good Christian man that AJ purposely chose to make public on social media for all to see. He was not ashamed of his words. And even now, I have no evidence showing he has made a public apology. Nor do I see this man making himself available for questions or taking accountability. Instead, I see that his Instagram account was made private and the deletion of his Linkedin account and apparently his Facebook as well. You want to pretend there is some justification here and entertain anything to give some kind of plausible deniability. Yet, you can't point to a single piece of evidence supporting such things. Sorry but you are the one with the unreasonable position here.









Seems like some want to treat cheering the assassination the same as if he accidentally parked in the wrong parking space. "Aw, let's hear his side of him cheering on the murder of an innocent man! Maybe it was an oopsy! Maybe he fell asleep on his keyboard and his face just randomly mashed out the posts! YoU jUsT cAnT kNoW!!!"


I like you Wang despite the fact that you seem to have become a hater.

I didn't argue what he did was right... I just argued that we've literally all done something similar at one time or another and the punishment should fit the crime.





I suspect I speak for a lot of people when I say that things I have never done include posting approval of someone's murder because I did not like his politics, or something similar.


Did the guy you are tarring and feathering post that?


I'm "giggling" at someone's murder? Yes, I'd say that's "approving" of it, or something similar.




This is exhausting... alright go ahead and take the guy's scalp.

This is why Derek Chauvin is in jail right now.


Not taking his scalp, making a determination as to whether he's more of an asset or liability.
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Assassin said:

Osodecentx said:

Wangchung said:

Osodecentx said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

True conservatives dont support cancel culture.

We also believe in second chances bcs we are the good guys.

There is room for nuance.... the guy wasn't posting videos of Charlie's death and saying he wish he had been the one to do it.

"Giggles" is inappropriate and he should receive disciplinary action, but not extreme enough to ruin someone's life.



Sorry your friend AJ has got to go. He can have his second chance at another institution. That nuance is why Charlie is dead. Such an individual is a threat to everyone around him. Baylor needs to be made safe and Baylor admins need to show such behavior is not acceptable conduct for students. The fact that an ordinary high school knows this better than the Baylor admins is scary.


You are making a lot of assumptions and projections based on a "giggles" post.

I'll shoot down one of your lies right now... I am not friends with AJ nor have I ever met the guy before.

You are taking a very hardline position and when you are inevitably on the receiving end of your political opponents mis-framing, lying, and projecting things onto you over a mistake you will inevitably make, you'll want people to show some perspective and nuance.

You are the one making assumptions that Midway High School didn't exercise due diligence in their decision. Do you have any evidence to support this claim? If not, you are doing the very thing you are accusing me of.

And if you don't want to be seen as AJ's friend, stop defending his evil behavior. This is not a mistake or a lapse in judgement. This is a willful celebration of the murder of a good Christian man that AJ purposely chose to make public on social media for all to see. He was not ashamed of his words. And even now, I have no evidence showing he has made a public apology. Nor do I see this man making himself available for questions or taking accountability. Instead, I see that his Instagram account was made private and the deletion of his Linkedin account and apparently his Facebook as well. You want to pretend there is some justification here and entertain anything to give some kind of plausible deniability. Yet, you can't point to a single piece of evidence supporting such things. Sorry but you are the one with the unreasonable position here.



I didn't pretend there was justification.

I said he did something wrong and should receive disciplinary action.

Sorry that is just not good enough. You are taking this issue way, way too lightly and not appreciating the seriousness of the radicalization effect on students. The shooting happened at UVU but could have just as easily happened on the Baylor campus. The Baylor admins need to be extremely concerned about the safety of the students and ensure there is no occurrence at Baylor. That starts by taking strong action here so everyone sees it is not to be tolerated. They must get the snakes out of the garden.


Would you give the grad student an opportunity to present his side?

He already presented his side. That's what we are all talking about.

He presented his side to Baylor?

It sounds like he presented his side to the world. Doubtful he will ever get a job in the real world again


If he posted that and meant to, he wouldn't work for me. I would want to hear his side before taking action
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Osodecentx said:

Assassin said:

Osodecentx said:

Wangchung said:

Osodecentx said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

True conservatives dont support cancel culture.

We also believe in second chances bcs we are the good guys.

There is room for nuance.... the guy wasn't posting videos of Charlie's death and saying he wish he had been the one to do it.

"Giggles" is inappropriate and he should receive disciplinary action, but not extreme enough to ruin someone's life.



Sorry your friend AJ has got to go. He can have his second chance at another institution. That nuance is why Charlie is dead. Such an individual is a threat to everyone around him. Baylor needs to be made safe and Baylor admins need to show such behavior is not acceptable conduct for students. The fact that an ordinary high school knows this better than the Baylor admins is scary.


You are making a lot of assumptions and projections based on a "giggles" post.

I'll shoot down one of your lies right now... I am not friends with AJ nor have I ever met the guy before.

You are taking a very hardline position and when you are inevitably on the receiving end of your political opponents mis-framing, lying, and projecting things onto you over a mistake you will inevitably make, you'll want people to show some perspective and nuance.

You are the one making assumptions that Midway High School didn't exercise due diligence in their decision. Do you have any evidence to support this claim? If not, you are doing the very thing you are accusing me of.

And if you don't want to be seen as AJ's friend, stop defending his evil behavior. This is not a mistake or a lapse in judgement. This is a willful celebration of the murder of a good Christian man that AJ purposely chose to make public on social media for all to see. He was not ashamed of his words. And even now, I have no evidence showing he has made a public apology. Nor do I see this man making himself available for questions or taking accountability. Instead, I see that his Instagram account was made private and the deletion of his Linkedin account and apparently his Facebook as well. You want to pretend there is some justification here and entertain anything to give some kind of plausible deniability. Yet, you can't point to a single piece of evidence supporting such things. Sorry but you are the one with the unreasonable position here.



I didn't pretend there was justification.

I said he did something wrong and should receive disciplinary action.

Sorry that is just not good enough. You are taking this issue way, way too lightly and not appreciating the seriousness of the radicalization effect on students. The shooting happened at UVU but could have just as easily happened on the Baylor campus. The Baylor admins need to be extremely concerned about the safety of the students and ensure there is no occurrence at Baylor. That starts by taking strong action here so everyone sees it is not to be tolerated. They must get the snakes out of the garden.


Would you give the grad student an opportunity to present his side?

He already presented his side. That's what we are all talking about.

He presented his side to Baylor?

It sounds like he presented his side to the world. Doubtful he will ever get a job in the real world again


If he posted that and meant to, he wouldn't work for me. I would want to hear his side before taking action


I'd let him tell me whatever he wanted in the meeting where I planned to fire him. Hard to imagine he'd change my mind, but he'd get his allocution.
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Osodecentx said:

Assassin said:

Osodecentx said:

Wangchung said:

Osodecentx said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

True conservatives dont support cancel culture.

We also believe in second chances bcs we are the good guys.

There is room for nuance.... the guy wasn't posting videos of Charlie's death and saying he wish he had been the one to do it.

"Giggles" is inappropriate and he should receive disciplinary action, but not extreme enough to ruin someone's life.



Sorry your friend AJ has got to go. He can have his second chance at another institution. That nuance is why Charlie is dead. Such an individual is a threat to everyone around him. Baylor needs to be made safe and Baylor admins need to show such behavior is not acceptable conduct for students. The fact that an ordinary high school knows this better than the Baylor admins is scary.


You are making a lot of assumptions and projections based on a "giggles" post.

I'll shoot down one of your lies right now... I am not friends with AJ nor have I ever met the guy before.

You are taking a very hardline position and when you are inevitably on the receiving end of your political opponents mis-framing, lying, and projecting things onto you over a mistake you will inevitably make, you'll want people to show some perspective and nuance.

You are the one making assumptions that Midway High School didn't exercise due diligence in their decision. Do you have any evidence to support this claim? If not, you are doing the very thing you are accusing me of.

And if you don't want to be seen as AJ's friend, stop defending his evil behavior. This is not a mistake or a lapse in judgement. This is a willful celebration of the murder of a good Christian man that AJ purposely chose to make public on social media for all to see. He was not ashamed of his words. And even now, I have no evidence showing he has made a public apology. Nor do I see this man making himself available for questions or taking accountability. Instead, I see that his Instagram account was made private and the deletion of his Linkedin account and apparently his Facebook as well. You want to pretend there is some justification here and entertain anything to give some kind of plausible deniability. Yet, you can't point to a single piece of evidence supporting such things. Sorry but you are the one with the unreasonable position here.



I didn't pretend there was justification.

I said he did something wrong and should receive disciplinary action.

Sorry that is just not good enough. You are taking this issue way, way too lightly and not appreciating the seriousness of the radicalization effect on students. The shooting happened at UVU but could have just as easily happened on the Baylor campus. The Baylor admins need to be extremely concerned about the safety of the students and ensure there is no occurrence at Baylor. That starts by taking strong action here so everyone sees it is not to be tolerated. They must get the snakes out of the garden.


Would you give the grad student an opportunity to present his side?

He already presented his side. That's what we are all talking about.

He presented his side to Baylor?

It sounds like he presented his side to the world. Doubtful he will ever get a job in the real world again


If he posted that and meant to, he wouldn't work for me. I would want to hear his side before taking action
Apparently you'd want to hear his side twice, because it's been pointed out he already gave his side. That's why we are discussing him. But I agree with you, he wouldn't be working for me any longer. Especially if I was working at the worlds largest Baptist university.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

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I'd fire him simply on the fact that even a quarter-intelligent person with only a modicum of awareness would have known that such comments should never be made in public. It's the total lack of awareness (or equally as bad, the narcissism and total lack of impulse control) that shows a level of stupidity that should never be associated with an academic institution. That is, if Baylor even cares about it's reputation in that regard.
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Any self-respecting HR person would not give them the time of day. And my guess is that is what is going to happen, the same as the anti-semite Harvard folk. There will be a blackbook somewhere with a list of all these folks who celebrate murder. No top company would hire them simply due to lawsuits as they knew ahead of time their potential to cause problems and the way they represented the company.

Hit them in the financial nutz

Then start on the Universities
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BaylorFTW said:

Youre a clown said:

Oh good grief, you are a drama queen. Who in here is in a lynch mob? No one here is calling for this dude to be murdered. Murdering people who don't agree with you politically is what progressives do, but I haven't seen it in this thread.. First you dropped the word "doxxing" because people looked up publicly available information that's available on Baylor's website, and now we're in a "lynch mob" because we're talking about it on a website?


If by chance you did not know, this is his and Sam's pattern of behavior where they always take the contrarian position. These two posters have been doing this for years and apparently nothing has changed. You see they get their kicks off it and may not even be aware of their behavior as they do it out of habit. Had I started this thread with the opposite opinion, they would have argued against it contradicting their claims in this thread. Once you realize their duplicity, you will not take them seriously. They are trying to make this about themselves which is disgusting given a good Christian man has been slain.





Oh I know. It occurred to me that if the Baylor student had gotten on Facebook and typed up about how he enjoyed watching George Floyd get strangled by police and that his death had made him "giggle", Mitch and this Oso guy would also be calling for their jobs, calling for apologies, etc., and no one would blame them. I think it's easy to feel sympathy for someone who murdered somebody that you didn't like, and that itself is indicative of bitterness
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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

I'd fire him simply on the fact that even a quarter-intelligent person with only a modicum of awareness would have known that such comments should never be made in public. It's the total lack of awareness (or equally as bad, the narcissism and total lack of impulse control) that shows a level of stupidity that should never be associated with an academic institution. That is, if Baylor even cares about it's reputation in that regard.


I knew a guy whose brother had a very lucrative internship rescinded after they searched his social media and saw that he had dropped the hard R N-bomb in a post. If HR will nix your job for that, I think they should also pull it for saying that watching somebody die made you "giggle". I don't particularly want to work with somebody that may fly off the handle and try to murder me for my political beliefs, and that's the impression that I get from somebody who would post something like that on Facebook, especially in today's political climate when more and more people college aged view violence as an appropriate response to opinions that they don't like.
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The_barBEARian said:

Wangchung said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

True conservatives dont support cancel culture.

We also believe in second chances bcs we are the good guys.

There is room for nuance.... the guy wasn't posting videos of Charlie's death and saying he wish he had been the one to do it.

"Giggles" is inappropriate and he should receive disciplinary action, but not extreme enough to ruin someone's life.



Sorry your friend AJ has got to go. He can have his second chance at another institution. That nuance is why Charlie is dead. Such an individual is a threat to everyone around him. Baylor needs to be made safe and Baylor admins need to show such behavior is not acceptable conduct for students. The fact that an ordinary high school knows this better than the Baylor admins is scary.


You are making a lot of assumptions and projections based on a "giggles" post.

I'll shoot down one of your lies right now... I am not friends with AJ nor have I ever met the guy before.

You are taking a very hardline position and when you are inevitably on the receiving end of your political opponents mis-framing, lying, and projecting things onto you over a mistake you will inevitably make, you'll want people to show some perspective and nuance.

You are the one making assumptions that Midway High School didn't exercise due diligence in their decision. Do you have any evidence to support this claim? If not, you are doing the very thing you are accusing me of.

And if you don't want to be seen as AJ's friend, stop defending his evil behavior. This is not a mistake or a lapse in judgement. This is a willful celebration of the murder of a good Christian man that AJ purposely chose to make public on social media for all to see. He was not ashamed of his words. And even now, I have no evidence showing he has made a public apology. Nor do I see this man making himself available for questions or taking accountability. Instead, I see that his Instagram account was made private and the deletion of his Linkedin account and apparently his Facebook as well. You want to pretend there is some justification here and entertain anything to give some kind of plausible deniability. Yet, you can't point to a single piece of evidence supporting such things. Sorry but you are the one with the unreasonable position here.









Seems like some want to treat cheering the assassination the same as if he accidentally parked in the wrong parking space. "Aw, let's hear his side of him cheering on the murder of an innocent man! Maybe it was an oopsy! Maybe he fell asleep on his keyboard and his face just randomly mashed out the posts! YoU jUsT cAnT kNoW!!!"


I like you Wang despite the fact that you seem to have become a hater.

I didn't argue what he did was right... I just argued that we've literally all done something similar at one time or another and the punishment should fit the crime.



I've never done anything near what he did nor do I know anyone that has.
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Youre a clown said:

BaylorFTW said:

Youre a clown said:

Oh good grief, you are a drama queen. Who in here is in a lynch mob? No one here is calling for this dude to be murdered. Murdering people who don't agree with you politically is what progressives do, but I haven't seen it in this thread.. First you dropped the word "doxxing" because people looked up publicly available information that's available on Baylor's website, and now we're in a "lynch mob" because we're talking about it on a website?


If by chance you did not know, this is his and Sam's pattern of behavior where they always take the contrarian position. These two posters have been doing this for years and apparently nothing has changed. You see they get their kicks off it and may not even be aware of their behavior as they do it out of habit. Had I started this thread with the opposite opinion, they would have argued against it contradicting their claims in this thread. Once you realize their duplicity, you will not take them seriously. They are trying to make this about themselves which is disgusting given a good Christian man has been slain.





Oh I know. It occurred to me that if the Baylor student had gotten on Facebook and typed up about how he enjoyed watching George Floyd get strangled by police and that his death had made him "giggle", Mitch and this Oso guy


This Oso guy would want to make sure he actually said or posted the offensive material
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30aBear said:

The_barBEARian said:

Wangchung said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

True conservatives dont support cancel culture.

We also believe in second chances bcs we are the good guys.

There is room for nuance.... the guy wasn't posting videos of Charlie's death and saying he wish he had been the one to do it.

"Giggles" is inappropriate and he should receive disciplinary action, but not extreme enough to ruin someone's life.



Sorry your friend AJ has got to go. He can have his second chance at another institution. That nuance is why Charlie is dead. Such an individual is a threat to everyone around him. Baylor needs to be made safe and Baylor admins need to show such behavior is not acceptable conduct for students. The fact that an ordinary high school knows this better than the Baylor admins is scary.


You are making a lot of assumptions and projections based on a "giggles" post.

I'll shoot down one of your lies right now... I am not friends with AJ nor have I ever met the guy before.

You are taking a very hardline position and when you are inevitably on the receiving end of your political opponents mis-framing, lying, and projecting things onto you over a mistake you will inevitably make, you'll want people to show some perspective and nuance.

You are the one making assumptions that Midway High School didn't exercise due diligence in their decision. Do you have any evidence to support this claim? If not, you are doing the very thing you are accusing me of.

And if you don't want to be seen as AJ's friend, stop defending his evil behavior. This is not a mistake or a lapse in judgement. This is a willful celebration of the murder of a good Christian man that AJ purposely chose to make public on social media for all to see. He was not ashamed of his words. And even now, I have no evidence showing he has made a public apology. Nor do I see this man making himself available for questions or taking accountability. Instead, I see that his Instagram account was made private and the deletion of his Linkedin account and apparently his Facebook as well. You want to pretend there is some justification here and entertain anything to give some kind of plausible deniability. Yet, you can't point to a single piece of evidence supporting such things. Sorry but you are the one with the unreasonable position here.










Seems like some want to treat cheering the assassination the same as if he accidentally parked in the wrong parking space. "Aw, let's hear his side of him cheering on the murder of an innocent man! Maybe it was an oopsy! Maybe he fell asleep on his keyboard and his face just randomly mashed out the posts! YoU jUsT cAnT kNoW!!!"


I like you Wang despite the fact that you seem to have become a hater.

I didn't argue what he did was right... I just argued that we've literally all done something similar at one time or another and the punishment should fit the crime.




I've never done anything near what he did nor do I know anyone that has.


If you really believe you've never written something online that you shouldnt have you are lying to yourself.
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The Left's accusations against Charlie were all lies. None of them had an iota of truth. The truth was the opposite of what they said which was udually more true about themselves.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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The_barBEARian said:

30aBear said:

The_barBEARian said:

Wangchung said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

True conservatives dont support cancel culture.

We also believe in second chances bcs we are the good guys.

There is room for nuance.... the guy wasn't posting videos of Charlie's death and saying he wish he had been the one to do it.

"Giggles" is inappropriate and he should receive disciplinary action, but not extreme enough to ruin someone's life.



Sorry your friend AJ has got to go. He can have his second chance at another institution. That nuance is why Charlie is dead. Such an individual is a threat to everyone around him. Baylor needs to be made safe and Baylor admins need to show such behavior is not acceptable conduct for students. The fact that an ordinary high school knows this better than the Baylor admins is scary.


You are making a lot of assumptions and projections based on a "giggles" post.

I'll shoot down one of your lies right now... I am not friends with AJ nor have I ever met the guy before.

You are taking a very hardline position and when you are inevitably on the receiving end of your political opponents mis-framing, lying, and projecting things onto you over a mistake you will inevitably make, you'll want people to show some perspective and nuance.

You are the one making assumptions that Midway High School didn't exercise due diligence in their decision. Do you have any evidence to support this claim? If not, you are doing the very thing you are accusing me of.

And if you don't want to be seen as AJ's friend, stop defending his evil behavior. This is not a mistake or a lapse in judgement. This is a willful celebration of the murder of a good Christian man that AJ purposely chose to make public on social media for all to see. He was not ashamed of his words. And even now, I have no evidence showing he has made a public apology. Nor do I see this man making himself available for questions or taking accountability. Instead, I see that his Instagram account was made private and the deletion of his Linkedin account and apparently his Facebook as well. You want to pretend there is some justification here and entertain anything to give some kind of plausible deniability. Yet, you can't point to a single piece of evidence supporting such things. Sorry but you are the one with the unreasonable position here.










Seems like some want to treat cheering the assassination the same as if he accidentally parked in the wrong parking space. "Aw, let's hear his side of him cheering on the murder of an innocent man! Maybe it was an oopsy! Maybe he fell asleep on his keyboard and his face just randomly mashed out the posts! YoU jUsT cAnT kNoW!!!"


I like you Wang despite the fact that you seem to have become a hater.

I didn't argue what he did was right... I just argued that we've literally all done something similar at one time or another and the punishment should fit the crime.




I've never done anything near what he did nor do I know anyone that has.


If you really believe you've never written something online that you shouldnt have you are lying to yourself.
nothing anywhere near what these idiots have done. It's worrisome that you have. You need need help.
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30aBear said:

The_barBEARian said:

30aBear said:

The_barBEARian said:

Wangchung said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

True conservatives dont support cancel culture.

We also believe in second chances bcs we are the good guys.

There is room for nuance.... the guy wasn't posting videos of Charlie's death and saying he wish he had been the one to do it.

"Giggles" is inappropriate and he should receive disciplinary action, but not extreme enough to ruin someone's life.



Sorry your friend AJ has got to go. He can have his second chance at another institution. That nuance is why Charlie is dead. Such an individual is a threat to everyone around him. Baylor needs to be made safe and Baylor admins need to show such behavior is not acceptable conduct for students. The fact that an ordinary high school knows this better than the Baylor admins is scary.


You are making a lot of assumptions and projections based on a "giggles" post.

I'll shoot down one of your lies right now... I am not friends with AJ nor have I ever met the guy before.

You are taking a very hardline position and when you are inevitably on the receiving end of your political opponents mis-framing, lying, and projecting things onto you over a mistake you will inevitably make, you'll want people to show some perspective and nuance.

You are the one making assumptions that Midway High School didn't exercise due diligence in their decision. Do you have any evidence to support this claim? If not, you are doing the very thing you are accusing me of.

And if you don't want to be seen as AJ's friend, stop defending his evil behavior. This is not a mistake or a lapse in judgement. This is a willful celebration of the murder of a good Christian man that AJ purposely chose to make public on social media for all to see. He was not ashamed of his words. And even now, I have no evidence showing he has made a public apology. Nor do I see this man making himself available for questions or taking accountability. Instead, I see that his Instagram account was made private and the deletion of his Linkedin account and apparently his Facebook as well. You want to pretend there is some justification here and entertain anything to give some kind of plausible deniability. Yet, you can't point to a single piece of evidence supporting such things. Sorry but you are the one with the unreasonable position here.










Seems like some want to treat cheering the assassination the same as if he accidentally parked in the wrong parking space. "Aw, let's hear his side of him cheering on the murder of an innocent man! Maybe it was an oopsy! Maybe he fell asleep on his keyboard and his face just randomly mashed out the posts! YoU jUsT cAnT kNoW!!!"


I like you Wang despite the fact that you seem to have become a hater.

I didn't argue what he did was right... I just argued that we've literally all done something similar at one time or another and the punishment should fit the crime.




I've never done anything near what he did nor do I know anyone that has.


If you really believe you've never written something online that you shouldnt have you are lying to yourself.

nothing anywhere near what these idiots have done. It's worrisome that you have. You need need help.


No. I am honest. You arent.
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D. C. Bear said:

The_barBEARian said:

Wangchung said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

BaylorFTW said:

The_barBEARian said:

True conservatives dont support cancel culture.

We also believe in second chances bcs we are the good guys.

There is room for nuance.... the guy wasn't posting videos of Charlie's death and saying he wish he had been the one to do it.

"Giggles" is inappropriate and he should receive disciplinary action, but not extreme enough to ruin someone's life.



Sorry your friend AJ has got to go. He can have his second chance at another institution. That nuance is why Charlie is dead. Such an individual is a threat to everyone around him. Baylor needs to be made safe and Baylor admins need to show such behavior is not acceptable conduct for students. The fact that an ordinary high school knows this better than the Baylor admins is scary.


You are making a lot of assumptions and projections based on a "giggles" post.

I'll shoot down one of your lies right now... I am not friends with AJ nor have I ever met the guy before.

You are taking a very hardline position and when you are inevitably on the receiving end of your political opponents mis-framing, lying, and projecting things onto you over a mistake you will inevitably make, you'll want people to show some perspective and nuance.

You are the one making assumptions that Midway High School didn't exercise due diligence in their decision. Do you have any evidence to support this claim? If not, you are doing the very thing you are accusing me of.

And if you don't want to be seen as AJ's friend, stop defending his evil behavior. This is not a mistake or a lapse in judgement. This is a willful celebration of the murder of a good Christian man that AJ purposely chose to make public on social media for all to see. He was not ashamed of his words. And even now, I have no evidence showing he has made a public apology. Nor do I see this man making himself available for questions or taking accountability. Instead, I see that his Instagram account was made private and the deletion of his Linkedin account and apparently his Facebook as well. You want to pretend there is some justification here and entertain anything to give some kind of plausible deniability. Yet, you can't point to a single piece of evidence supporting such things. Sorry but you are the one with the unreasonable position here.










Seems like some want to treat cheering the assassination the same as if he accidentally parked in the wrong parking space. "Aw, let's hear his side of him cheering on the murder of an innocent man! Maybe it was an oopsy! Maybe he fell asleep on his keyboard and his face just randomly mashed out the posts! YoU jUsT cAnT kNoW!!!"


I like you Wang despite the fact that you seem to have become a hater.

I didn't argue what he did was right... I just argued that we've literally all done something similar at one time or another and the punishment should fit the crime.





I suspect I speak for a lot of people when I say that things I have never done include posting approval of someone's murder because I did not like his politics, or something similar.

If that's true I suspect you're in a distinct minority on this board. Politically extreme acts such as being an Arab and residing in Israeli-occupied territory are considered capital offenses here.
 
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