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The Left's accusations against Charlie were all lies. None of them had an iota of truth.

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That may be. I didn't really follow his work and haven't accused him of anything.

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True conservatives dont support cancel culture.

We also believe in second chances bcs we are the good guys.

There is room for nuance.... the guy wasn't posting videos of Charlie's death and saying he wish he had been the one to do it.

"Giggles" is inappropriate and he should receive disciplinary action, but not extreme enough to ruin someone's life.

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Sorry your friend AJ has got to go. He can have his second chance at another institution. That nuance is why Charlie is dead. Such an individual is a threat to everyone around him. Baylor needs to be made safe and Baylor admins need to show such behavior is not acceptable conduct for students. The fact that an ordinary high school knows this better than the Baylor admins is scary.

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You are making a lot of assumptions and projections based on a "giggles" post.

I'll shoot down one of your lies right now... I am not friends with AJ nor have I ever met the guy before.

You are taking a very hardline position and when you are inevitably on the receiving end of your political opponents mis-framing, lying, and projecting things onto you over a mistake you will inevitably make, you'll want people to show some perspective and nuance.

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You are the one making assumptions that Midway High School didn't exercise due diligence in their decision. Do you have any evidence to support this claim? If not, you are doing the very thing you are accusing me of.

And if you don't want to be seen as AJ's friend, stop defending his evil behavior. This is not a mistake or a lapse in judgement. This is a willful celebration of the murder of a good Christian man that AJ purposely chose to make public on social media for all to see. He was not ashamed of his words. And even now, I have no evidence showing he has made a public apology. Nor do I see this man making himself available for questions or taking accountability. Instead, I see that his Instagram account was made private and the deletion of his Linkedin account and apparently his Facebook as well. You want to pretend there is some justification here and entertain anything to give some kind of plausible deniability. Yet, you can't point to a single piece of evidence supporting such things. Sorry but you are the one with the unreasonable position here.

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Seems like some want to treat cheering the assassination the same as if he accidentally parked in the wrong parking space. "Aw, let's hear his side of him cheering on the murder of an innocent man! Maybe it was an oopsy! Maybe he fell asleep on his keyboard and his face just randomly mashed out the posts! YoU jUsT cAnT kNoW!!!"

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I like you Wang despite the fact that you seem to have become a hater.

I didn't argue what he did was right... I just argued that we've literally all done something similar at one time or another and the punishment should fit the crime.

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I suspect I speak for a lot of people when I say that things I have never done include posting approval of someone's murder because I did not like his politics, or something similar.

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If that's true I suspect you're in a distinct minority on this board. Politically extreme acts such as being an Arab and residing in Israeli-occupied territory are considered capital offenses here.

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So THAT is what the Israeli Palestine war is about? Some Arabs hanging out in Israel are being murdered for just hanging out? Just like the US civil war was about southern democrats wanting to hang out with Africans who were just hanging out in America?

Let me explain this to the leftists suddenly deeply concerned about cancel culture.

Digging up decade old tweets of jokes or hacking a political donation to get someone fired is cancel culture.

People getting fired for currently, openly cheering murder is not cancel culture.

— Bonchie (@bonchieredstate) September 13, 2025

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The_barBEARian said:

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True conservatives dont support cancel culture.

We also believe in second chances bcs we are the good guys.

There is room for nuance.... the guy wasn't posting videos of Charlie's death and saying he wish he had been the one to do it.

"Giggles" is inappropriate and he should receive disciplinary action, but not extreme enough to ruin someone's life.

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Sorry your friend AJ has got to go. He can have his second chance at another institution. That nuance is why Charlie is dead. Such an individual is a threat to everyone around him. Baylor needs to be made safe and Baylor admins need to show such behavior is not acceptable conduct for students. The fact that an ordinary high school knows this better than the Baylor admins is scary.

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You are making a lot of assumptions and projections based on a "giggles" post.

I'll shoot down one of your lies right now... I am not friends with AJ nor have I ever met the guy before.

You are taking a very hardline position and when you are inevitably on the receiving end of your political opponents mis-framing, lying, and projecting things onto you over a mistake you will inevitably make, you'll want people to show some perspective and nuance.

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You are the one making assumptions that Midway High School didn't exercise due diligence in their decision. Do you have any evidence to support this claim? If not, you are doing the very thing you are accusing me of.

And if you don't want to be seen as AJ's friend, stop defending his evil behavior. This is not a mistake or a lapse in judgement. This is a willful celebration of the murder of a good Christian man that AJ purposely chose to make public on social media for all to see. He was not ashamed of his words. And even now, I have no evidence showing he has made a public apology. Nor do I see this man making himself available for questions or taking accountability. Instead, I see that his Instagram account was made private and the deletion of his Linkedin account and apparently his Facebook as well. You want to pretend there is some justification here and entertain anything to give some kind of plausible deniability. Yet, you can't point to a single piece of evidence supporting such things. Sorry but you are the one with the unreasonable position here.

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Seems like some want to treat cheering the assassination the same as if he accidentally parked in the wrong parking space. "Aw, let's hear his side of him cheering on the murder of an innocent man! Maybe it was an oopsy! Maybe he fell asleep on his keyboard and his face just randomly mashed out the posts! YoU jUsT cAnT kNoW!!!"

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I like you Wang despite the fact that you seem to have become a hater.

I didn't argue what he did was right... I just argued that we've literally all done something similar at one time or another and the punishment should fit the crime.

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I suspect I speak for a lot of people when I say that things I have never done include posting approval of someone's murder because I did not like his politics, or something similar.

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If that's true I suspect you're in a distinct minority on this board. Politically extreme acts such as being an Arab and residing in Israeli-occupied territory are considered capital offenses here.

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Disturbing how even in the middle of a historic tragedy you remain compelled to troll this little message board.

Suspect retirement is far more restrictive than you anticipated.

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The Left's accusations against Charlie were all lies. None of them had an iota of truth.

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That may be. I didn't really follow his work and haven't accused him of anything.

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You have a fantastic opportunity to view his videos and come "back" (per your stance that you were conservative) from the dark, liberal stances you have taken here.

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The_barBEARian said:

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Wangchung said:

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BaylorFTW said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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True conservatives dont support cancel culture.

We also believe in second chances bcs we are the good guys.

There is room for nuance.... the guy wasn't posting videos of Charlie's death and saying he wish he had been the one to do it.

"Giggles" is inappropriate and he should receive disciplinary action, but not extreme enough to ruin someone's life.

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Sorry your friend AJ has got to go. He can have his second chance at another institution. That nuance is why Charlie is dead. Such an individual is a threat to everyone around him. Baylor needs to be made safe and Baylor admins need to show such behavior is not acceptable conduct for students. The fact that an ordinary high school knows this better than the Baylor admins is scary.

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You are making a lot of assumptions and projections based on a "giggles" post.

I'll shoot down one of your lies right now... I am not friends with AJ nor have I ever met the guy before.

You are taking a very hardline position and when you are inevitably on the receiving end of your political opponents mis-framing, lying, and projecting things onto you over a mistake you will inevitably make, you'll want people to show some perspective and nuance.

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You are the one making assumptions that Midway High School didn't exercise due diligence in their decision. Do you have any evidence to support this claim? If not, you are doing the very thing you are accusing me of.

And if you don't want to be seen as AJ's friend, stop defending his evil behavior. This is not a mistake or a lapse in judgement. This is a willful celebration of the murder of a good Christian man that AJ purposely chose to make public on social media for all to see. He was not ashamed of his words. And even now, I have no evidence showing he has made a public apology. Nor do I see this man making himself available for questions or taking accountability. Instead, I see that his Instagram account was made private and the deletion of his Linkedin account and apparently his Facebook as well. You want to pretend there is some justification here and entertain anything to give some kind of plausible deniability. Yet, you can't point to a single piece of evidence supporting such things. Sorry but you are the one with the unreasonable position here.

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Seems like some want to treat cheering the assassination the same as if he accidentally parked in the wrong parking space. "Aw, let's hear his side of him cheering on the murder of an innocent man! Maybe it was an oopsy! Maybe he fell asleep on his keyboard and his face just randomly mashed out the posts! YoU jUsT cAnT kNoW!!!"

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I like you Wang despite the fact that you seem to have become a hater.

I didn't argue what he did was right... I just argued that we've literally all done something similar at one time or another and the punishment should fit the crime.

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I've never done anything near what he did nor do I know anyone that has.

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If you really believe you've never written something online that you shouldnt have you are lying to yourself.

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nothing anywhere near what these idiots have done. It's worrisome that you have. You need need help.

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No. I am honest. You arent.

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wow, you really think the average person has done something on the internet as bad as these people that are laughing and celebrating a murder. You need help.

Baylor Track and Field Head Coach Michael Ford makes clear AJ Barber is not a coach or on staff for Baylor Athletics. Thank you Mr. Ford for speaking up. We call for others working at Baylor to speak up and call for the removal of AJ Barber from school.

I am truly saddened by another senseless killing yesterday. I wish to clear the air, AJ Barber isn’t on my staff or a coach @BaylorTrack, he has never been a staff member at Baylor Athletics either. My prayers are with Charlie’s family 🙏🏿. pic.twitter.com/pX6YBinwYM

— Michael Ford (@MichaelFordBU) September 11, 2025

That AJ kid looks psycho. A little like the joker.

Former Baylor grad student wants AJ gone.

@Baylor
AJ Barber needs to be terminated. As a Baylor graduate I am sickened by this callous comment. Baylor was founded as a Christian university. There is no place at @Baylor for someone like this. https://t.co/NoiMvUjVnK

— I love salt... (@bigsisterhill) September 11, 2025

Baylor's reputation is being tarnished further by not taking swift action with AJ Barber.

AJ Barber looks like such a fucking pathetic little weiner. And holy shit is he ever ugly.

Baylor does hire propagandists and activists instead of educators so can’t say I’m surprised this creepy pedo-looking ginger would work there.

— GF (@DarkCanuck1980) September 12, 2025

Doc Holliday said:

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Let me explain this to the leftists suddenly deeply concerned about cancel culture.

Digging up decade old tweets of jokes or hacking a political donation to get someone fired is cancel culture.

People getting fired for currently, openly cheering murder is not cancel culture.

— Bonchie (@bonchieredstate) September 13, 2025

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Where was their mercy and compassion for Charlie?

I was reading Proverbs 13 today as I have been in the habit of reading a chapter each day of the month. I felt its words in Pro 13:2-3 were fitting:

2 From the fruit of his mouth a man eats what is good,
but the desire of the treacherous is for violence.
3 Whoever guards his mouth preserves his life;
he who opens wide his lips comes to ruin.

The_barBEARian said:

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Wangchung said:

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BaylorFTW said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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BaylorFTW said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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True conservatives dont support cancel culture.

We also believe in second chances bcs we are the good guys.

There is room for nuance.... the guy wasn't posting videos of Charlie's death and saying he wish he had been the one to do it.

"Giggles" is inappropriate and he should receive disciplinary action, but not extreme enough to ruin someone's life.

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Sorry your friend AJ has got to go. He can have his second chance at another institution. That nuance is why Charlie is dead. Such an individual is a threat to everyone around him. Baylor needs to be made safe and Baylor admins need to show such behavior is not acceptable conduct for students. The fact that an ordinary high school knows this better than the Baylor admins is scary.

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You are making a lot of assumptions and projections based on a "giggles" post.

I'll shoot down one of your lies right now... I am not friends with AJ nor have I ever met the guy before.

You are taking a very hardline position and when you are inevitably on the receiving end of your political opponents mis-framing, lying, and projecting things onto you over a mistake you will inevitably make, you'll want people to show some perspective and nuance.

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You are the one making assumptions that Midway High School didn't exercise due diligence in their decision. Do you have any evidence to support this claim? If not, you are doing the very thing you are accusing me of.

And if you don't want to be seen as AJ's friend, stop defending his evil behavior. This is not a mistake or a lapse in judgement. This is a willful celebration of the murder of a good Christian man that AJ purposely chose to make public on social media for all to see. He was not ashamed of his words. And even now, I have no evidence showing he has made a public apology. Nor do I see this man making himself available for questions or taking accountability. Instead, I see that his Instagram account was made private and the deletion of his Linkedin account and apparently his Facebook as well. You want to pretend there is some justification here and entertain anything to give some kind of plausible deniability. Yet, you can't point to a single piece of evidence supporting such things. Sorry but you are the one with the unreasonable position here.

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Seems like some want to treat cheering the assassination the same as if he accidentally parked in the wrong parking space. "Aw, let's hear his side of him cheering on the murder of an innocent man! Maybe it was an oopsy! Maybe he fell asleep on his keyboard and his face just randomly mashed out the posts! YoU jUsT cAnT kNoW!!!"

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I like you Wang despite the fact that you seem to have become a hater.

I didn't argue what he did was right... I just argued that we've literally all done something similar at one time or another and the punishment should fit the crime.

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what did you do similar?

The closest thing I can think of that I did was laugh when Israel blew the nuts off a bunch of terrorist with pagers.

Maybe you equate death of terrorist to the death of a conservative public speaker. I don't.

LIB,MR BEARS said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Wangchung said:

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BaylorFTW said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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BaylorFTW said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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True conservatives dont support cancel culture.

We also believe in second chances bcs we are the good guys.

There is room for nuance.... the guy wasn't posting videos of Charlie's death and saying he wish he had been the one to do it.

"Giggles" is inappropriate and he should receive disciplinary action, but not extreme enough to ruin someone's life.

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Sorry your friend AJ has got to go. He can have his second chance at another institution. That nuance is why Charlie is dead. Such an individual is a threat to everyone around him. Baylor needs to be made safe and Baylor admins need to show such behavior is not acceptable conduct for students. The fact that an ordinary high school knows this better than the Baylor admins is scary.

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You are making a lot of assumptions and projections based on a "giggles" post.

I'll shoot down one of your lies right now... I am not friends with AJ nor have I ever met the guy before.

You are taking a very hardline position and when you are inevitably on the receiving end of your political opponents mis-framing, lying, and projecting things onto you over a mistake you will inevitably make, you'll want people to show some perspective and nuance.

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You are the one making assumptions that Midway High School didn't exercise due diligence in their decision. Do you have any evidence to support this claim? If not, you are doing the very thing you are accusing me of.

And if you don't want to be seen as AJ's friend, stop defending his evil behavior. This is not a mistake or a lapse in judgement. This is a willful celebration of the murder of a good Christian man that AJ purposely chose to make public on social media for all to see. He was not ashamed of his words. And even now, I have no evidence showing he has made a public apology. Nor do I see this man making himself available for questions or taking accountability. Instead, I see that his Instagram account was made private and the deletion of his Linkedin account and apparently his Facebook as well. You want to pretend there is some justification here and entertain anything to give some kind of plausible deniability. Yet, you can't point to a single piece of evidence supporting such things. Sorry but you are the one with the unreasonable position here.

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Seems like some want to treat cheering the assassination the same as if he accidentally parked in the wrong parking space. "Aw, let's hear his side of him cheering on the murder of an innocent man! Maybe it was an oopsy! Maybe he fell asleep on his keyboard and his face just randomly mashed out the posts! YoU jUsT cAnT kNoW!!!"

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I like you Wang despite the fact that you seem to have become a hater.

I didn't argue what he did was right... I just argued that we've literally all done something similar at one time or another and the punishment should fit the crime.

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what did you do similar?

The closest thing I can think of that I did was laugh when Israel blew the nuts off a bunch of terrorist with pagers.

Maybe you equate death of terrorist to the death of a conservative public speaker. I don't.

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Well there were innocent kids injured in that attack too... so yes you've done something similar.

At least you are honest about it.

So has Baylor gotten rid of him yet?

Perhaps redirecting any $ earmarked for Baylor to TPUSA is an appropriate response if they have not.

I started last night by making a monthly $ commitment to TPUSA.

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That AJ kid looks psycho. A little like the joker.

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He has Bryan Kohberger psycho vibes

Baylor would do well to get him far away from campus as soon as possible

Another Student Visa opening is happening...

Meet Serena Luciano. She is here on a student visa from Argentina. She currently works as a college recruiter for the University of Illinois College of Architecture, Design, and the Arts @uicsoa where she is also pursuing her masters in Urban Higher Education.

Her words: Charlie… pic.twitter.com/Ki3rGvq7T2

— Bad Hombre (@joma_gc) September 14, 2025

Bye, Felicia.

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Another Student Visa opening is happening...

Meet Serena Luciano. She is here on a student visa from Argentina. She currently works as a college recruiter for the University of Illinois College of Architecture, Design, and the Arts @uicsoa where she is also pursuing her masters in Urban Higher Education.

Her words: Charlie… pic.twitter.com/Ki3rGvq7T2

— Bad Hombre (@joma_gc) September 14, 2025

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So bored with the constant use of F bombs.

Informs me the user doesn't possess much intelligence and can be ignored.

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So has Baylor gotten rid of him yet?

Perhaps redirecting any $ earmarked for Baylor to TPUSA is an appropriate response if they have not.

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No official statement has been made that I am aware of. I am out of town on a business trip but if time permits will be making inquiries tomorrow or on Tuesday. Regardless, I will be stepping things up next Monday if no action has been taken.

The Texas Education Agency is investigating teachers and staff who have "posted and/or shared reprehensible and inappropriate content on social media" about the assassination of Charlie Kirk. pic.twitter.com/mY2wpK8L3r

— Greg Abbott (@GregAbbott_TX) September 13, 2025

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So has Baylor gotten rid of him yet?

Perhaps redirecting any $ earmarked for Baylor to TPUSA is an appropriate response if they have not.

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No official statement has been made that I am aware of. I am out of town on a business trip but if time permits will be making inquiries tomorrow or on Tuesday. Regardless, I will be stepping things up next Monday if no action has been taken.

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Thanks BaylorFTW

The Baylor administration needs to address this head on and deal with this and alumni need to hold them accountable

Assassin said:

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Another Student Visa opening is happening...

Meet Serena Luciano. She is here on a student visa from Argentina. She currently works as a college recruiter for the University of Illinois College of Architecture, Design, and the Arts @uicsoa where she is also pursuing her masters in Urban Higher Education.

Her words: Charlie… pic.twitter.com/Ki3rGvq7T2

— Bad Hombre (@joma_gc) September 14, 2025

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Did it get revoked or she get fired yet?

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So has Baylor gotten rid of him yet?

Perhaps redirecting any $ earmarked for Baylor to TPUSA is an appropriate response if they have not.

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No official statement has been made that I am aware of. I am out of town on a business trip but if time permits will be making inquiries tomorrow or on Tuesday. Regardless, I will be stepping things up next Monday if no action has been taken.

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Do you want Baylor to expel undergraduates who post material about Kirk that you deem offensive or inappropriate?

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So has Baylor gotten rid of him yet?

Perhaps redirecting any $ earmarked for Baylor to TPUSA is an appropriate response if they have not.

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No official statement has been made that I am aware of. I am out of town on a business trip but if time permits will be making inquiries tomorrow or on Tuesday. Regardless, I will be stepping things up next Monday if no action has been taken.

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That does seem to be the desire of hair on fire posters. Hard to imagine some of these views are from educated individuals. The vendetta to rid anyone with whom you disagree with is damned sure a symbol of intolerance of differing opinions. The word Liberty is losing its value in this nation.

Is this wank trying to fake being a Baylor coach? His profile pic, handle reak of fake wannabe.

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No official statement has been made that I am aware of. I am out of town on a business trip but if time permits will be making inquiries tomorrow or on Tuesday. Regardless, I will be stepping things up next Monday if no action has been taken.

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That does seem to be the desire of hair on fire posters. Hard to imagine some of these views are from educated individuals. The vendetta to rid anyone with whom you disagree with is damned sure a symbol of intolerance of differing opinions. The word Liberty is losing its value in this nation.

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I'm sure you would have to agree that we have to get rid of the liberal scourge that has affected Baylor and most other academia in recent years. What better way to start them getting rid of folks who celebrate the murder of a good man. Those will be some of your "educated individuals"

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The Left's accusations against Charlie were all lies. None of them had an iota of truth.

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That may be. I didn't really follow his work and haven't accused him of anything.

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They are false. When the accusations started racking up, they didn't jibe with the few video clips I had seen of him in the past. But there were a lot of accusations, so I went looking for the longer video clips where they claimed he said stuff they found hateful. In every case so far it turned out the accusations were false. For example, people who hated him would post that he said he didn't believe in empathy. The longer clip showed he said he preferred sympathy, because the focus is on the other person instead of your own empathetic feelings. Completely changed the available rational hermeneutical positions you can take on that statement. In looking for these quotes, I came across one video where he was talking to a guy who said he was trans and having personal difficulties and another with a gay conservative student who asked him what he thought about the presence of gays in the conservative movement. In both cases, he treated them respectfully and did not say anything that could be interpreted as demeaning, even when he acknowledged political/moral differences.

When the accusations started coming out, I started wondering if where there is smoke there is also fire. That is why I went looking for the videos. What I learned is what I already knew - the Internet is a wonderful machine for spreading lies. The long videos are available for you to judge for yourself. It's fine if you don't care, but this video content has become important because of the large number of people on the left I am seeing justify his murder because he held unacceptable ideas. If the specific accusations they have been making turn out to be false, many people are going to need to move on to another justification for his murder.

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So has Baylor gotten rid of him yet?

Perhaps redirecting any $ earmarked for Baylor to TPUSA is an appropriate response if they have not.

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No official statement has been made that I am aware of. I am out of town on a business trip but if time permits will be making inquiries tomorrow or on Tuesday. Regardless, I will be stepping things up next Monday if no action has been taken.

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I'm okay with quite a bit of stuff I find offensive to be posted. I even say some things I'm sure you find offensive. Big believer in free speech/debate.

It's the advocating or celebrating a murder, that was motivated by bigotry, of a specific individual or group of people that crosses a line in the context of being associated with a corporation or institution. It's a gray area in free speech terms, but Baylor needs to ensure a safe campus. We don't need to become the next Utah Valley State. Tyler Robinson showed that someone expressing such sentiments will sometimes act on them. That is what is putting these people on everyone's radar.

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Realitybites said:

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So has Baylor gotten rid of him yet?

Perhaps redirecting any $ earmarked for Baylor to TPUSA is an appropriate response if they have not.

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No official statement has been made that I am aware of. I am out of town on a business trip but if time permits will be making inquiries tomorrow or on Tuesday. Regardless, I will be stepping things up next Monday if no action has been taken.

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Do you want Baylor to expel undergraduates who post material about Kirk that you deem offensive or inappropriate?

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I'm okay with quite a bit of stuff I find offensive to be posted. I even say some things I'm sure you find offensive. Big believer in free speech/debate.

It's the advocating or celebrating a murder, that was motivated by bigotry, of a specific individual or group of people that crosses a line in the context of being associated with a corporation or institution. It's a gray area in free speech terms, but Baylor needs to ensure a safe campus. We don't need to become the next Utah Valley State. Tyler Robinson showed that someone expressing such sentiments will sometimes act on them. That is what is putting these people on everyone's radar.

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Would you expel a Baylor undergrad for posting things you find offensive?

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Realitybites said:

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So has Baylor gotten rid of him yet?

Perhaps redirecting any $ earmarked for Baylor to TPUSA is an appropriate response if they have not.

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No official statement has been made that I am aware of. I am out of town on a business trip but if time permits will be making inquiries tomorrow or on Tuesday. Regardless, I will be stepping things up next Monday if no action has been taken.

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Do you want Baylor to expel undergraduates who post material about Kirk that you deem offensive or inappropriate?

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I'm okay with quite a bit of stuff I find offensive to be posted. I even say some things I'm sure you find offensive. Big believer in free speech/debate.

It's the advocating or celebrating a murder, that was motivated by bigotry, of a specific individual or group of people that crosses a line in the context of being associated with a corporation or institution. It's a gray area in free speech terms, but Baylor needs to ensure a safe campus. We don't need to become the next Utah Valley State. Tyler Robinson showed that someone expressing such sentiments will sometimes act on them. That is what is putting these people on everyone's radar.

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Would you expel a Baylor undergrad for posting things you find offensive?

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Would you remove a student from student seating for wearing the opposing teams colors?
Suppose that team is the team they grew up supporting?
Does red offend you? Perhaps burnt orange, crimson or maroon? Are those offensive enough to a university that a student shouldn't be allowed to sit in camera view?

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So has Baylor gotten rid of him yet?

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No official statement has been made that I am aware of. I am out of town on a business trip but if time permits will be making inquiries tomorrow or on Tuesday. Regardless, I will be stepping things up next Monday if no action has been taken.

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Do you want Baylor to expel undergraduates who post material about Kirk that you deem offensive or inappropriate?

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I'm okay with quite a bit of stuff I find offensive to be posted. I even say some things I'm sure you find offensive. Big believer in free speech/debate.

It's the advocating or celebrating a murder, that was motivated by bigotry, of a specific individual or group of people that crosses a line in the context of being associated with a corporation or institution. It's a gray area in free speech terms, but Baylor needs to ensure a safe campus. We don't need to become the next Utah Valley State. Tyler Robinson showed that someone expressing such sentiments will sometimes act on them. That is what is putting these people on everyone's radar.

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Would you expel a Baylor undergrad for posting things you find offensive?

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Would you remove a student from student seating for wearing the opposing teams colors?
Suppose that team is the team they grew up supporting?
Does red offend you? Perhaps burnt orange, crimson or maroon? Are those offensive enough to a university that a student shouldn't be allowed to sit in camera view?

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Would you expel the students in your hypothetical?

Osodecentx said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Osodecentx said:

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BearlySpeaking said:

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Realitybites said:

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So has Baylor gotten rid of him yet?

Perhaps redirecting any $ earmarked for Baylor to TPUSA is an appropriate response if they have not.

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No official statement has been made that I am aware of. I am out of town on a business trip but if time permits will be making inquiries tomorrow or on Tuesday. Regardless, I will be stepping things up next Monday if no action has been taken.

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Do you want Baylor to expel undergraduates who post material about Kirk that you deem offensive or inappropriate?

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I'm okay with quite a bit of stuff I find offensive to be posted. I even say some things I'm sure you find offensive. Big believer in free speech/debate.

It's the advocating or celebrating a murder, that was motivated by bigotry, of a specific individual or group of people that crosses a line in the context of being associated with a corporation or institution. It's a gray area in free speech terms, but Baylor needs to ensure a safe campus. We don't need to become the next Utah Valley State. Tyler Robinson showed that someone expressing such sentiments will sometimes act on them. That is what is putting these people on everyone's radar.

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Would you expel a Baylor undergrad for posting things you find offensive?

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Would you remove a student from student seating for wearing the opposing teams colors?
Suppose that team is the team they grew up supporting?
Does red offend you? Perhaps burnt orange, crimson or maroon? Are those offensive enough to a university that a student shouldn't be allowed to sit in camera view?

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Would you expel the students in your hypothetical?

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I'm not a religious leader questioning your authority and you aren't Christ so let's just stick with you answering the question posed first and then I'll answer yours.

Aliceinbubbleland said:

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Osodecentx said:

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BaylorFTW said:

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Realitybites said:

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So has Baylor gotten rid of him yet?

Perhaps redirecting any $ earmarked for Baylor to TPUSA is an appropriate response if they have not.

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No official statement has been made that I am aware of. I am out of town on a business trip but if time permits will be making inquiries tomorrow or on Tuesday. Regardless, I will be stepping things up next Monday if no action has been taken.

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Do you want Baylor to expel undergraduates who post material about Kirk that you deem offensive or inappropriate?

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That does seem to be the desire of hair on fire posters. Hard to imagine some of these views are from educated individuals. The vendetta to rid anyone with whom you disagree with is damned sure a symbol of intolerance of differing opinions. The word Liberty is losing its value in this nation.

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The extent to which you've lost your anchor on this one is kinda funny.

Freedom of speech is at the heart of our democracy and should be at the heart of our educational system.

The murder of Charlie Kirk is a direct affront to that. He made his bones going around publicly debating at universities. People disagreed with him constantly. That was the entire point, done in a context in which universities have more and more become intolerant echo chambers rather than marketplaces of ideas.

Murdering him (and celebrating his murder) are an attack on free speech and the marketplace of ideas - not an exercise of it. They illustrate that you should simply remove people rather than debate them.

So, arguably, educational institutions should take a really hard line on this. This is not like punishing someone for debating political issues. It's the exact opposite.

This is why the Supreme Court long, long ago distinguished between protected political speech and advocacy of violence.

Celebrating a past murder may fall outside of a direct incitement to violence, but it's enough in the ballpark that I wouldn't be inclined to tolerate it as an educational institution. The government shouldn't be able to punish you for it, though.