Tucker's attempt to normalize Nick Fuentes

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Mothra said:

When groyper-aligned or strongly anti-Israel candidates have challenged establishment-backed Republicans, they've lost every single time, in most cases, badly.


When anti-Israel, America First candidates have challenged establishment-backed, Israel First Republicans, the Israel First Republican always, without fail dodge debates. With both Fishback and Massie, their opponents refused to debate them. If your policies are so wonderful why are you guys so afraid of defending them in a public forum?
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Mothra
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The_barBEARian said:

Mothra said:

The DSA has existed for decades, had a surge of attention after Bernie's 2016 campaign, and has won some local and state-level races. Yet the Democratic Party is still overwhelmingly led by mainstream Democrats, not democratic socialists. Winning city council or mayoral races is a far cry from "taking over a party," IMO.

The same is true here. Having influence on social media, performing well on a few college campuses, or attracting younger activists does not demonstrate a path to controlling the Republican Party. National elections are won by broad coalitions, and the electorate looks very different from X, Telegram, podcasts, and college campuses.

And of course, as pointed out in my previous post, recent Republican primaries have shown the opposite of what you're predicting. When groyper-aligned or strongly anti-Israel candidates have challenged establishment-backed Republicans, they've lost every single time, in most cases, badly. The movement consistently generates more attention online than votes at the ballot box. That's why I'd be cautious about confusing a trend with a takeover.


Recent primaries - where I'll conveniently leave out that jews spent record breaking amounts of money in Massie's congressional race to replace him with a Boomer who can barely string a sentence together.

I cant wait for the dopamine hit I'll receive in a couple of months watching Mothra's Israel-First Republican party getting curb stomped by the dems... you delusional old men cant win a general election without America First conservatives.

I'm not "Israel First." I am simply not a Neo-Nazi like yourself, and therefore don't have a seething hatred and prejudice toward the Jews as you do. Having a disagreement with anti-Semitism doesn't makes someone loyal to a foreign country.

Beyond that, you're making a lot of assumptions about future elections. If Republicans lose seats, it won't automatically prove that any one faction was decisive. Elections are influenced by a long list of factors, and no small group gets to take sole credit for victories or blame for losses. There is a long history in this country of the party in power losing the midterms. Happens almost every single time.
Mothra
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The_barBEARian said:

Mothra said:

When groyper-aligned or strongly anti-Israel candidates have challenged establishment-backed Republicans, they've lost every single time, in most cases, badly.


When anti-Israel, America First candidates have challenged establishment-backed, Israel First Republicans, the Israel First Republican always, without fail dodge debates. With both Fishback and Massie, their opponents refused to debate them. If your policies are so wonderful why are you guys so afraid of defending them in a public forum?

Not sure who you are referencing. I didn't support any of those candidates. Have no clue what their policy positions are.

Massie lost because he's a contrarian who bucked Trump at every turn.
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Mothra said:

The_barBEARian said:

Mothra said:

The DSA has existed for decades, had a surge of attention after Bernie's 2016 campaign, and has won some local and state-level races. Yet the Democratic Party is still overwhelmingly led by mainstream Democrats, not democratic socialists. Winning city council or mayoral races is a far cry from "taking over a party," IMO.

The same is true here. Having influence on social media, performing well on a few college campuses, or attracting younger activists does not demonstrate a path to controlling the Republican Party. National elections are won by broad coalitions, and the electorate looks very different from X, Telegram, podcasts, and college campuses.

And of course, as pointed out in my previous post, recent Republican primaries have shown the opposite of what you're predicting. When groyper-aligned or strongly anti-Israel candidates have challenged establishment-backed Republicans, they've lost every single time, in most cases, badly. The movement consistently generates more attention online than votes at the ballot box. That's why I'd be cautious about confusing a trend with a takeover.


Recent primaries - where I'll conveniently leave out that jews spent record breaking amounts of money in Massie's congressional race to replace him with a Boomer who can barely string a sentence together.

I cant wait for the dopamine hit I'll receive in a couple of months watching Mothra's Israel-First Republican party getting curb stomped by the dems... you delusional old men cant win a general election without America First conservatives.

I'm not "Israel First." I am simply not a Neo-Nazi like yourself, and therefore don't have a seething hatred and prejudice toward the Jews as you do. Having a disagreement with anti-Semitism doesn't makes someone loyal to a foreign country.

Beyond that, you're making a lot of assumptions about future elections. If Republicans lose seats, it won't automatically prove that any one faction was decisive. Elections are influenced by a long list of factors, and no small group gets to take sole credit for victories or blame for losses. There is a long history in this country of the party in power losing the midterms. Happens almost every single time.


This phenotype is literally Mothra:

muddybrazos
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Mothra said:

The_barBEARian said:

Mothra said:

When groyper-aligned or strongly anti-Israel candidates have challenged establishment-backed Republicans, they've lost every single time, in most cases, badly.


When anti-Israel, America First candidates have challenged establishment-backed, Israel First Republicans, the Israel First Republican always, without fail dodge debates. With both Fishback and Massie, their opponents refused to debate them. If your policies are so wonderful why are you guys so afraid of defending them in a public forum?

Not sure who you are referencing. I didn't support any of those candidates. Have no clue what their policy positions are.

Massie lost because he's a contrarian who bucked Trump at every turn.

So AIPAC and the ZOA, Miriam Adelson and Paul Singer had nothing to do with it even though they are bragging about getting him defeated? I guess it was just him being a contrarian and not the most expensive house race ever.
Mothra
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The_barBEARian said:

Mothra said:

The_barBEARian said:

Mothra said:

The DSA has existed for decades, had a surge of attention after Bernie's 2016 campaign, and has won some local and state-level races. Yet the Democratic Party is still overwhelmingly led by mainstream Democrats, not democratic socialists. Winning city council or mayoral races is a far cry from "taking over a party," IMO.

The same is true here. Having influence on social media, performing well on a few college campuses, or attracting younger activists does not demonstrate a path to controlling the Republican Party. National elections are won by broad coalitions, and the electorate looks very different from X, Telegram, podcasts, and college campuses.

And of course, as pointed out in my previous post, recent Republican primaries have shown the opposite of what you're predicting. When groyper-aligned or strongly anti-Israel candidates have challenged establishment-backed Republicans, they've lost every single time, in most cases, badly. The movement consistently generates more attention online than votes at the ballot box. That's why I'd be cautious about confusing a trend with a takeover.


Recent primaries - where I'll conveniently leave out that jews spent record breaking amounts of money in Massie's congressional race to replace him with a Boomer who can barely string a sentence together.

I cant wait for the dopamine hit I'll receive in a couple of months watching Mothra's Israel-First Republican party getting curb stomped by the dems... you delusional old men cant win a general election without America First conservatives.

I'm not "Israel First." I am simply not a Neo-Nazi like yourself, and therefore don't have a seething hatred and prejudice toward the Jews as you do. Having a disagreement with anti-Semitism doesn't makes someone loyal to a foreign country.

Beyond that, you're making a lot of assumptions about future elections. If Republicans lose seats, it won't automatically prove that any one faction was decisive. Elections are influenced by a long list of factors, and no small group gets to take sole credit for victories or blame for losses. There is a long history in this country of the party in power losing the midterms. Happens almost every single time.


This phenotype is literally Mothra:





I love that my crippled, old, White, boomer ass lives, rent free in your head. Thank God, I am not a snowflake millennial.

Thanks for the guilty pleasure.
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muddybrazos said:

Mothra said:

The_barBEARian said:

Mothra said:

When groyper-aligned or strongly anti-Israel candidates have challenged establishment-backed Republicans, they've lost every single time, in most cases, badly.


When anti-Israel, America First candidates have challenged establishment-backed, Israel First Republicans, the Israel First Republican always, without fail dodge debates. With both Fishback and Massie, their opponents refused to debate them. If your policies are so wonderful why are you guys so afraid of defending them in a public forum?

Not sure who you are referencing. I didn't support any of those candidates. Have no clue what their policy positions are.

Massie lost because he's a contrarian who bucked Trump at every turn.

So AIPAC and the ZOA, Miriam Adelson and Paul Singer had nothing to do with it even though they are bragging about getting him defeated? I guess it was just him being a contrarian and not the most expensive house race ever.


I never said that there were no other reasons. The main one is because he sucks.
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Is it antisemitism if you dont want to be ruled over by Israel and give all your taxes to them? and wage wars on their behalf forever?
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muddybrazos
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boognish_bear said:



I prefer the white house not have any funny hat people ever. Nixon wouldnt have allowed it but they framed him. And we all know what they did to Kennedy when he said no to their nukes. Then oddly enough Johnson became president and gave them everything. Weird how that all happened.
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ZZ Top did it better.
muddybrazos
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Oldbear83 said:

ZZ Top did it better.

most definitely, and ZZ top could eat the killer ribs down at the Country Tavern in Kilgore.
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muddybrazos said:

Is it antisemitism if you dont want to be ruled over by Israel and give all your taxes to them? and wage wars on their behalf forever?


Yes! According to Historian
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muddybrazos said:

Is it antisemitism if you dont want to be ruled over by Israel and give all your taxes to them? and wage wars on their behalf forever?

No. Opposition to Israeli policies is not antisemitic.

What is antisemitic is believing that Israel rules over our government, takes all our tax dollars, or secretly controls our policies. Promoting conspiracy theories about some Jewish or Israeli bogeyman that does all of those things is the antisemitism.
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muddybrazos said:

boognish_bear said:



I prefer the white house not have any funny hat people ever. Nixon wouldnt have allowed it but they framed him. And we all know what they did to Kennedy when he said no to their nukes. Then oddly enough Johnson became president and gave them everything. Weird how that all happened.

Ah, so now you believe it is self-evident the Jews killed Kennedy?

Oy vey. That's the antisemitism muddy. There is a great big Jewish bogeyman than exists in your mind, and it's ret@rded. You sound like such an uneducated bumpkin when you say stupid **** like that.
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Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

Is it antisemitism if you dont want to be ruled over by Israel and give all your taxes to them? and wage wars on their behalf forever?

No. Opposition to Israeli policies is not antisemitic.

What is antisemitic is believing that Israel rules over our government, takes all our tax dollars, or secretly controls our policies. Promoting conspiracy theories about some Jewish or Israeli bogeyman that does all of those things is the antisemitism.


Jews refers to practitioners of Judaism.

Judaism is a religion.

Israel is a country.

Anti-semitism is a charge of racism.

That's why your name calling falls flat.
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Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

Is it antisemitism if you dont want to be ruled over by Israel and give all your taxes to them? and wage wars on their behalf forever?

No. Opposition to Israeli policies is not antisemitic.

What is antisemitic is believing that Israel rules over our government, takes all our tax dollars, or secretly controls our policies. Promoting conspiracy theories about some Jewish or Israeli bogeyman that does all of those things is the antisemitism.


Now what if someone says "Israel-aligned" persons have a great deal of influence over policy, and the Republican Party as a whole.

It's hard to say that one is a conspiracy theory.
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Not really. Israel is the world's only Jewish state. The two are inextricably linked. It seems that antisemites often attack Israel as a way to attack Jews, although I think it's probably more complicated. Regardless, attacks on Jews in the US, Europe, and everywhere else is on the rise along with attacks on Israel.

There is no excuse gif anyone supporting or excusing October 7 or any other terror attack or group. But plenty of people do that, often repeating Hamas propaganda about Gaza. Lies are still lies no matter how often they are repeated and by whom.
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Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

Is it antisemitism if you dont want to be ruled over by Israel and give all your taxes to them? and wage wars on their behalf forever?

No. Opposition to Israeli policies is not antisemitic.

What is antisemitic is believing that Israel rules over our government, takes all our tax dollars, or secretly controls our policies. Promoting conspiracy theories about some Jewish or Israeli bogeyman that does all of those things is the antisemitism.


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Realitybites said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

Is it antisemitism if you dont want to be ruled over by Israel and give all your taxes to them? and wage wars on their behalf forever?

No. Opposition to Israeli policies is not antisemitic.

What is antisemitic is believing that Israel rules over our government, takes all our tax dollars, or secretly controls our policies. Promoting conspiracy theories about some Jewish or Israeli bogeyman that does all of those things is the antisemitism.


Jews refers to practitioners of Judaism.

Judaism is a religion.

Israel is a country.

Anti-semitism is a charge of racism.

That's why your name calling falls flat.


Yeah, yeah I've heard your tired and stupid argument Mr. semantic. You'll try to make another obnoxious argument about Abrahamic lineage and what not.

Nobody's buying the bull**** you're selling. Well except for the neo Nazi and big bear.
Mothra
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historian said:

Not really. Israel is the world's only Jewish state. The two are inextricably linked. It seems that antisemites often attack Israel as a way to attack Jews, although I think it's probably more complicated. Regardless, attacks on Jews in the US, Europe, and everywhere else is on the rise along with attacks on Israel.

There is no excuse gif anyone supporting or excusing October 7 or any other terror attack or group. But plenty of people do that, often repeating Hamas propaganda about Gaza. Lies are still lies no matter how often they are repeated and by whom.


Pearls before swine to these clowns. Expect another word salad in response.
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BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

Is it antisemitism if you dont want to be ruled over by Israel and give all your taxes to them? and wage wars on their behalf forever?

No. Opposition to Israeli policies is not antisemitic.

What is antisemitic is believing that Israel rules over our government, takes all our tax dollars, or secretly controls our policies. Promoting conspiracy theories about some Jewish or Israeli bogeyman that does all of those things is the antisemitism.


Now what if someone says "Israel-aligned" persons have a great deal of influence over policy, and the Republican Party as a whole.

It's hard to say that one is a conspiracy theory.


Our govt has certainly always supported Israel. But that's quite different from what muddy is suggesting.
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https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/germanys-right-wing-populists-on-course-for-historic-victory-56662408?st=2hvdML&reflink=article_copyURL_share

"Germany's Far-Right Party On Course for Historic State Victory"
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Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

Is it antisemitism if you dont want to be ruled over by Israel and give all your taxes to them? and wage wars on their behalf forever?

No. Opposition to Israeli policies is not antisemitic.

What is antisemitic is believing that Israel rules over our government, takes all our tax dollars, or secretly controls our policies. Promoting conspiracy theories about some Jewish or Israeli bogeyman that does all of those things is the antisemitism.

So youre saying that antisemitism is an observable reality bc our govt is absolutely controlled by Israeli interests and they will brag about t at a ZOA conference. The ADL trains the fbi. Miriam Adelson and Paul Singer have to bless you if you want to president or Senator. The only thing that both parties every agree on is we have to give money to Israel. These things are not even disputable b c theyre blatantly obvious. Pat Buchanan said capitol hill is Israeli occupied territory back in the 80s and he was right then and its still true now. The funny hats and Netanyahu and regulars in the oval office to tell Trump what needs to happen. I look forward to the day that we can no longer afford to bankroll them anymore but thats more of a pipedream.
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Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

boognish_bear said:



I prefer the white house not have any funny hat people ever. Nixon wouldnt have allowed it but they framed him. And we all know what they did to Kennedy when he said no to their nukes. Then oddly enough Johnson became president and gave them everything. Weird how that all happened.

Ah, so now you believe it is self-evident the Jews killed Kennedy?

Oy vey. That's the antisemitism muddy. There is a great big Jewish bogeyman than exists in your mind, and it's ret@rded. You sound like such an uneducated bumpkin when you say stupid **** like that.

I dont care what you want to label it. The modern state of Israel was formed by 2 mob/paramilitary groups which are IRGUN and Hagana. They will not hesitate to slash the throat of anyone in their way. The IDF and MOssad will murder anyone in their way and wage war through the art of deception. That country is evil.
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"That country is evil."

OK, Saddam.
muddybrazos
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Oldbear83 said:

"That country is evil."

OK, Saddam.


Whatever bro, they keep dragging us into endless middle east wars that we dont have a dog in that fight. Was Saddam even that bad? The wmds were fake ISraeli intel to get us to fight their enemy. Iraq under Saddam was a power check on Iran which everyone is now worried about.
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muddybrazos said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

boognish_bear said:



I prefer the white house not have any funny hat people ever. Nixon wouldnt have allowed it but they framed him. And we all know what they did to Kennedy when he said no to their nukes. Then oddly enough Johnson became president and gave them everything. Weird how that all happened.

Ah, so now you believe it is self-evident the Jews killed Kennedy?

Oy vey. That's the antisemitism muddy. There is a great big Jewish bogeyman than exists in your mind, and it's ret@rded. You sound like such an uneducated bumpkin when you say stupid **** like that.

I dont care what you want to label it. The modern state of Israel was formed by 2 mob/paramilitary groups which are IRGUN and Hagana. They will not hesitate to slash the throat of anyone in their way. The IDF and MOssad will murder anyone in their way and wage war through the art of deception. That country is evil.


I get you hate Jews buddy. With a passion. But like it or not god is clear in scripture he still have a plan for them so I'd be careful.

Now do you have any evidence to support your self evidence claim that the Jews killed JFK? Or is this just more of your unsupported bull*****
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Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

boognish_bear said:



I prefer the white house not have any funny hat people ever. Nixon wouldnt have allowed it but they framed him. And we all know what they did to Kennedy when he said no to their nukes. Then oddly enough Johnson became president and gave them everything. Weird how that all happened.

Ah, so now you believe it is self-evident the Jews killed Kennedy?

Oy vey. That's the antisemitism muddy. There is a great big Jewish bogeyman than exists in your mind, and it's ret@rded. You sound like such an uneducated bumpkin when you say stupid **** like that.

I dont care what you want to label it. The modern state of Israel was formed by 2 mob/paramilitary groups which are IRGUN and Hagana. They will not hesitate to slash the throat of anyone in their way. The IDF and MOssad will murder anyone in their way and wage war through the art of deception. That country is evil.


I get you hate Jews buddy. With a passion. But like it or not god is clear in scripture he still have a plan for them so I'd be careful.

Now do you have any evidence to support your self evidence claim that the Jews killed JFK? Or is this just more of your unsupported bull*****

I dont hate anyone. I just do not think that particular country need to control America directly or indirectly throuugh monetary or blackmail influence. They can exist but I dont think they need to use our armies as thiir proxies to destroy the middle east so they can rule it.
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