Tucker's attempt to normalize Nick Fuentes

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None. That does not justify bigotry. Nothing does.

Perverts do have their hubris month in June.
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Which White group do you feel is being disrespected?
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Irish American Heritage Month (March) and Italian American Heritage Month (October),
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How could he not understand the concept of the Antichrist? It is explained well in scriptures with some specific prophecies about what he will do in the end times & his ultimate fate. In Revelation he's also known as the Beast and his number is 666. It's even permeated parts of popular culture with movies and books. The Left Behind series (12 books by Tim LaHaye & Jerry Jenkins) got much attention in the 1990s.

I don't know any Christian's who are ignorant of this concept.
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The_barBEARian said:

historian said:

So what? Jewish members of Congress will celebrate their heritage and culture. Blacks and Hispanics do the same, as do polish-Americans, Irish-Americans, and every other group. Usually it's harmless. Your bigotry blinds you to reality.


What white racial group has an entire month to celebrate themselves?

That kinda stuff only appeals to the poorly endowed.

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Realitybites said:









Relevance?
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historian said:

How could he not understand the concept of the Antichrist? It is explained well in scriptures with some specific prophecies about what he will do in the end times & his ultimate fate. In Revelation he's also known as the Beast and his number is 666. It's even permeated parts of popular culture with movies and books. The Left Behind series (12 books by Tim LaHaye & Jerry Jenkins) got much attention in the 1990s.

I don't know any Christian's who are ignorant of this concept.

He's not ignorant, just a liar. He doesn't want the heat that comes from saying something so ridiculously absurd. And he's so committed to the lie that he will actually deny video evidence of him saying it.
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The_barBEARian said:



I am curious as to the relevance of this clip to our discussion.
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Sad to see a man of such talent do this.
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whiterock said:

Sad to see a man of such talent do this.



Sad
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Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Sad to see a man of such talent do this.



Sad


Not surprising that someone like Joel Mowbray, who has "Proud American, proud Jew" In his X tag line, would misrepresent this exchange.

1. Tucker didn't say that Hezbollah should run Southern Lebanon.

2. His guest said that Nasrallah was attempting to do the same thing in Lebanon that Ahmed al-Shara was attempting to do in Syria...transition from a terrorist movement to a political movement. It is within that context that the comment should be heard...not the "terrorists should run Lebanon!" portrayal that Joel is attempting.

But if you don't take the time to listen to the clip, you wouldn't realize that.
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Realitybites said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Sad to see a man of such talent do this.



Sad


Not surprising that someone like Joel Mowbray, who has "Proud American, proud Jew" In his X tag line, would misrepresent this exchange.

1. Tucker didn't say that Hezbollah should run Southern Lebanon.

2. His guest said that Nasrallah was attempting to do the same thing in Lebanon that Ahmed al-Shara was attempting to do in Syria...transition from a terrorist movement to a political movement. It is within that context that the comment should be heard...not the "terrorists should run Lebanon!" portrayal that Joel is attempting.

But if you don't take the time to listen to the quote, you wouldn't realize that.


Thanks for the new (to me) information
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Osodecentx said:

Realitybites said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Sad to see a man of such talent do this.



Sad


Not surprising that someone like Joel Mowbray, who has "Proud American, proud Jew" In his X tag line, would misrepresent this exchange.

1. Tucker didn't say that Hezbollah should run Southern Lebanon.

2. His guest said that Nasrallah was attempting to do the same thing in Lebanon that Ahmed al-Shara was attempting to do in Syria...transition from a terrorist movement to a political movement. It is within that context that the comment should be heard...not the "terrorists should run Lebanon!" portrayal that Joel is attempting.

But if you don't take the time to listen to the quote, you wouldn't realize that.


Thanks for the new (to me) information

I don't necessarily agree with everything Wilkerson says, but he's one of the best sources out there. He has long experience in foreign policy before foreign policy went off the rails, and he knows how diplomacy is supposed to work (spoiler: we don't know how to do it any more).
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Probably so
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whiterock said:

Sad to see a man of such talent do this.


He's deranged and making a mockery of journalism. He'd fit in perfectly at CNN! (Although he would be roasted regularly by Scott Jennings.)
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historian said:

whiterock said:

Sad to see a man of such talent do this.


He's deranged and making a mockery of journalism. He'd fit in perfectly at CNN! (Although he would be roasted regularly by Scott Jennings.)

he's growing his audience internationally. His schtick has lots of appeal in certain parts of the world.
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I've suspected for some time that maybe Tucker, Megyn, & the rest were bought off by Islamofascists, the Chinese, Soros, or someone else. Now it seems that might be the case. Check it out:

Accidentally Saying the Quiet Part Out Loud

https://hotair.com/david-strom/2026/05/06/accidentally-saying-the-quiet-part-out-loud-n3814659

It certainly would explain much of their recent crazy rhetoric & behavior. Candace is just plain nuts.
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historian said:

I've suspected for some time that maybe Tucker, Megyn, & the rest were bought off by Islamofascists, the Chinese, Soros, or someone else. Now it seems that might be the case. Check it out:

Accidentally Saying the Quiet Part Out Loud

https://hotair.com/david-strom/2026/05/06/accidentally-saying-the-quiet-part-out-loud-n3814659

It certainly would explain much of their recent crazy rhetoric & behavior. Candace is just plain nuts.

Tucker works for Peter Thiel and JD Vance. He may have other foreign interests as well but I know he works on behalf of those two,.
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But does Tucker know that?

Seriously, I know Tucker & JD are friends (or were) but things change. After his career tanked he has become more radical and his material is more like click bait than anything serious. Regardless, his extremism is enough reason for me to largely ignore him.

It's also possible that only Megyn was bought off.
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historian said:

But does Tucker know that?

Seriously, I know Tucker & JD are friends (or were) but things change. After his career tanked he has become more radical and his material is more like click bait than anything serious. Regardless, his extremism is enough reason for me to largely ignore him.

It's also possible that only Megyn was bought off.


Absolutely. Tucker has all but outright endorsed JD for 2028 on his show.

I theorize the Silicon Valley Right (Thiel) recognized they had to let Trump do his thing one last time, but they're shooting for the White House in 2028 via JD.

IMO, Meghan and Candace just follow the trends, neither of them produce original ideas.
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historian said:

I've suspected for some time that maybe Tucker, Megyn, & the rest were bought off by Islamofascists, the Chinese, Soros, or someone else. Now it seems that might be the case. Check it out:

Accidentally Saying the Quiet Part Out Loud

https://hotair.com/david-strom/2026/05/06/accidentally-saying-the-quiet-part-out-loud-n3814659

It certainly would explain much of their recent crazy rhetoric & behavior. Candace is just plain nuts.

These people share more in common with the left nowdays then they do with the right. The spirited defenses of Islam, and the willingness to burn down the house are incredible to me. We now have purported conservatives actively rooting for Trump to lose. It's remarkable.
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muddybrazos said:

historian said:

I've suspected for some time that maybe Tucker, Megyn, & the rest were bought off by Islamofascists, the Chinese, Soros, or someone else. Now it seems that might be the case. Check it out:

Accidentally Saying the Quiet Part Out Loud

https://hotair.com/david-strom/2026/05/06/accidentally-saying-the-quiet-part-out-loud-n3814659

It certainly would explain much of their recent crazy rhetoric & behavior. Candace is just plain nuts.

Tucker works for Peter Thiel and JD Vance. He may have other foreign interests as well but I know he works on behalf of those two,.

His Muslim audience has grown by leaps and bounds. He also seems to be working for certain Middle-Eastern countries. It's been quite lucrative for him.
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historian said:

But does Tucker know that?

Seriously, I know Tucker & JD are friends (or were) but things change. After his career tanked he has become more radical and his material is more like click bait than anything serious. Regardless, his extremism is enough reason for me to largely ignore him.

It's also possible that only Megyn was bought off.

I suspect the whole lot of them have been bought off - Tucker, Megyn, Candace, etc.

JD Vance has pretty much torpedoed any chance at the presidency at this point. I suspect Rubio will be the nom.
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BigGameBaylorBear said:

historian said:

But does Tucker know that?

Seriously, I know Tucker & JD are friends (or were) but things change. After his career tanked he has become more radical and his material is more like click bait than anything serious. Regardless, his extremism is enough reason for me to largely ignore him.

It's also possible that only Megyn was bought off.


Absolutely. Tucker has all but outright endorsed JD for 2028 on his show.


Ain't never gonna happen. Nobody likes the guy.

And if that's what Tucker wants, we should ALL be skeptical.
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Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

historian said:

But does Tucker know that?

Seriously, I know Tucker & JD are friends (or were) but things change. After his career tanked he has become more radical and his material is more like click bait than anything serious. Regardless, his extremism is enough reason for me to largely ignore him.

It's also possible that only Megyn was bought off.


Absolutely. Tucker has all but outright endorsed JD for 2028 on his show.


Ain't never gonna happen. Nobody likes the guy.

And if that's what Tucker wants, we should ALL be skeptical.


Peter Thiel is pulling the strings. Tucker is another one on the pay roll
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boognish_bear said:



Wonder if the resident Groypers will follow suit?
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Mothra said:

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Wonder if the resident Groypers will follow suit?

I have never voted for a Democrat in my life. There are a couple of GOP candidates I've withheld my vote from (McCain/Romney) by voting Constitution Party. That's because the only thing worse than having a Democrat advancing Democrat policies is having a Republican advance them.

We've gotten to a place in his second term where Trump is considering an amnesty for illegals, has launched a war on Iran on Israel's behalf, has reauthorized FISA, and has actively attempted to prevent the release of the Epstein Johns names. He's also turned on Thomas Massie, and MTG along with some of his most dedicated supporters. A year and a half into his second term, he's only deported 1 years worth of Biden illegals *if* you count self-deportations.

None of this is what MAGA voters voted for. I get that your politics are all Israel all the time, but it may be getting close to the point where November's vote becomes a tool to get the old fool impeached and removed from office.

Kentucky voters need to step up for Thomas Massie on May 19th. Lets see how that goes.
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Realitybites said:

Mothra said:

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Wonder if the resident Groypers will follow suit?

I have never voted for a Democrat in my life. There are a couple of GOP candidates I've withheld my vote from (McCain/Romney) by voting Constitution Party. That's because the only thing worse than having a Democrat advancing Democrat policies is having a Republican advance them.

We've gotten to a place in his second term where Trump is considering an amnesty for illegals, has launched a war on Iran on Israel's behalf, has reauthorized FISA, and has actively attempted to prevent the release of the Epstein Johns names. He's also turned on Thomas Massie, and MTG along with some of his most dedicated supporters. A year and a half into his second term, he's only deported 1 years worth of Biden illegals *if* you count self-deportations.

None of this is what MAGA voters voted for. I get that your politics are all Israel all the time, but it may be getting close to the point where November's vote becomes a tool to get the old fool impeached and removed from office.

Kentucky voters need to step up for Thomas Massie on May 19th. Lets see how that goes.

So, is that a yes? For the record, although I realize you will continue to mischaracterize and lie about my position on Israel, I don't consider you a Groyper.

With respect to America First, the problem with your movement is it consistently substitutes outrage, conspiracy and suspicion for argument and evidence, and replaces coherent conservative principles with grievance-driven populism, not unlike your leftist counterparts. While the slogan sounds good (of course a government should prioritize its own people), your movement fails to define what those priorities entail, how they are ordered, or what limits them.

America First also seems to package conspiracism under the guise of skepticism. The Epstein files are a perfect example. Immoral and disrespectful loudmouths like MTG make serious accusations about pedo cabals and foreign influence, but all of her grievances are aired without standards of proof or evidence. It's nothing more than a capitulation to sensationalism and outrage politics. Is that what we want from the conservative movement? Philandering clowns like MTG as our spokesman?

Foreign policy is another example. America First reduces complex geopolitical questions to a false choice between total disengagement and betrayal of national interest. Longstanding conservative doctrines such as "peace through strength" (see Reagan), strategic alliances, and deterrence are dismissed as "globalism" or "neoconservatism" without serious engagement. Or worse yet, it is seen as a capitulation to the whims and fancies of Israel, which of course resembles a subtle, but historical, antisemitic trope. I would submit that allowing such rhetoric to fester under the banner of "America First" nationalism is both ethically wrong and politically selfdestructive.

In short, your movement defines conservatism not by what it seeks to preserve, but by a posture of perpetual resentment against institutions, elites, allies, and even fellow conservatives. At this point, it's nothing more than a purely oppositional identity, and clowns like MTG, Nick Fuentes and Tucker are your spokesmans. That speaks volumes.
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Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

Mothra said:

boognish_bear said:



Wonder if the resident Groypers will follow suit?

I have never voted for a Democrat in my life. There are a couple of GOP candidates I've withheld my vote from (McCain/Romney) by voting Constitution Party. That's because the only thing worse than having a Democrat advancing Democrat policies is having a Republican advance them.

We've gotten to a place in his second term where Trump is considering an amnesty for illegals, has launched a war on Iran on Israel's behalf, has reauthorized FISA, and has actively attempted to prevent the release of the Epstein Johns names. He's also turned on Thomas Massie, and MTG along with some of his most dedicated supporters. A year and a half into his second term, he's only deported 1 years worth of Biden illegals *if* you count self-deportations.

None of this is what MAGA voters voted for. I get that your politics are all Israel all the time, but it may be getting close to the point where November's vote becomes a tool to get the old fool impeached and removed from office.

Kentucky voters need to step up for Thomas Massie on May 19th. Lets see how that goes.

So, is that a yes? For the record, although I realize you will continue to mischaracterize and lie about my position on Israel, I don't consider you a Groyper.

With respect to America First, the problem with your movement is it consistently substitutes outrage, conspiracy and suspicion for argument and evidence, and replaces coherent conservative principles with grievance-driven populism, not unlike your leftist counterparts. While the slogan sounds good (of course a government should prioritize its own people), your movement fails to define what those priorities entail, how they are ordered, or what limits them.

America First also seems to package conspiracism under the guise of skepticism. The Epstein files are a perfect example. Immoral and disrespectful loudmouths like MTG make serious accusations about pedo cabals and foreign influence, but all of her grievances are aired without standards of proof or evidence. It's nothing more than a capitulation to sensationalism and outrage politics. Is that what we want from the conservative movement? Philandering clowns like MTG as our spokesman?

Foreign policy is another example. America First reduces complex geopolitical questions to a false choice between total disengagement and betrayal of national interest. Longstanding conservative doctrines such as "peace through strength" (see Reagan), strategic alliances, and deterrence are dismissed as "globalism" or "neoconservatism" without serious engagement. Or worse yet, it is seen as a capitulation to the whims and fancies of Israel, which of course resembles a subtle, but historical, antisemitic trope. I would submit that allowing such rhetoric to fester under the banner of "America First" nationalism is both ethically wrong and politically selfdestructive.

In short, your movement defines conservatism not by what it seeks to preserve, but by a posture of perpetual resentment against institutions, elites, allies, and even fellow conservatives. At this point, it's nothing more than a purely oppositional identity, and clowns like MTG, Nick Fuentes and Tucker are your spokesmans. That speaks volumes.


Who are the spokepersons for MAGA? Donald Trump, Randy Fine, Paula White, and Ben Shapiro?
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BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

Mothra said:

boognish_bear said:



Wonder if the resident Groypers will follow suit?

I have never voted for a Democrat in my life. There are a couple of GOP candidates I've withheld my vote from (McCain/Romney) by voting Constitution Party. That's because the only thing worse than having a Democrat advancing Democrat policies is having a Republican advance them.

We've gotten to a place in his second term where Trump is considering an amnesty for illegals, has launched a war on Iran on Israel's behalf, has reauthorized FISA, and has actively attempted to prevent the release of the Epstein Johns names. He's also turned on Thomas Massie, and MTG along with some of his most dedicated supporters. A year and a half into his second term, he's only deported 1 years worth of Biden illegals *if* you count self-deportations.

None of this is what MAGA voters voted for. I get that your politics are all Israel all the time, but it may be getting close to the point where November's vote becomes a tool to get the old fool impeached and removed from office.

Kentucky voters need to step up for Thomas Massie on May 19th. Lets see how that goes.

So, is that a yes? For the record, although I realize you will continue to mischaracterize and lie about my position on Israel, I don't consider you a Groyper.

With respect to America First, the problem with your movement is it consistently substitutes outrage, conspiracy and suspicion for argument and evidence, and replaces coherent conservative principles with grievance-driven populism, not unlike your leftist counterparts. While the slogan sounds good (of course a government should prioritize its own people), your movement fails to define what those priorities entail, how they are ordered, or what limits them.

America First also seems to package conspiracism under the guise of skepticism. The Epstein files are a perfect example. Immoral and disrespectful loudmouths like MTG make serious accusations about pedo cabals and foreign influence, but all of her grievances are aired without standards of proof or evidence. It's nothing more than a capitulation to sensationalism and outrage politics. Is that what we want from the conservative movement? Philandering clowns like MTG as our spokesman?

Foreign policy is another example. America First reduces complex geopolitical questions to a false choice between total disengagement and betrayal of national interest. Longstanding conservative doctrines such as "peace through strength" (see Reagan), strategic alliances, and deterrence are dismissed as "globalism" or "neoconservatism" without serious engagement. Or worse yet, it is seen as a capitulation to the whims and fancies of Israel, which of course resembles a subtle, but historical, antisemitic trope. I would submit that allowing such rhetoric to fester under the banner of "America First" nationalism is both ethically wrong and politically selfdestructive.

In short, your movement defines conservatism not by what it seeks to preserve, but by a posture of perpetual resentment against institutions, elites, allies, and even fellow conservatives. At this point, it's nothing more than a purely oppositional identity, and clowns like MTG, Nick Fuentes and Tucker are your spokesmans. That speaks volumes.


Who are the spokepersons for MAGA? Donald Trump, Randy Fine, Paula White, and Ben Shapiro?


You'll get no argument from me that Maga suffers from many of the same problems , which is one of the reasons I consider myself a traditional conservative and not Maga. I held my nose and voted for Trump. I am not a huge fan of many of his policies. He was simply far better than the alternative.

But at least maga has some semblance of a coherent set of policies that can be clearly defined. It's not merely grievance politics.

And in some sense, they are both represented by clowns although I don't think JD Vance and Rubio are clowns. But it's certainly better than MTG, Tucker, Carlson, Nick, Fuentes and Candace Owens lol
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Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

Mothra said:

boognish_bear said:



Wonder if the resident Groypers will follow suit?

I have never voted for a Democrat in my life. There are a couple of GOP candidates I've withheld my vote from (McCain/Romney) by voting Constitution Party. That's because the only thing worse than having a Democrat advancing Democrat policies is having a Republican advance them.

We've gotten to a place in his second term where Trump is considering an amnesty for illegals, has launched a war on Iran on Israel's behalf, has reauthorized FISA, and has actively attempted to prevent the release of the Epstein Johns names. He's also turned on Thomas Massie, and MTG along with some of his most dedicated supporters. A year and a half into his second term, he's only deported 1 years worth of Biden illegals *if* you count self-deportations.

None of this is what MAGA voters voted for. I get that your politics are all Israel all the time, but it may be getting close to the point where November's vote becomes a tool to get the old fool impeached and removed from office.

Kentucky voters need to step up for Thomas Massie on May 19th. Lets see how that goes.

So, is that a yes? For the record, although I realize you will continue to mischaracterize and lie about my position on Israel, I don't consider you a Groyper.

With respect to America First, the problem with your movement is it consistently substitutes outrage, conspiracy and suspicion for argument and evidence, and replaces coherent conservative principles with grievance-driven populism, not unlike your leftist counterparts. While the slogan sounds good (of course a government should prioritize its own people), your movement fails to define what those priorities entail, how they are ordered, or what limits them.

America First also seems to package conspiracism under the guise of skepticism. The Epstein files are a perfect example. Immoral and disrespectful loudmouths like MTG make serious accusations about pedo cabals and foreign influence, but all of her grievances are aired without standards of proof or evidence. It's nothing more than a capitulation to sensationalism and outrage politics. Is that what we want from the conservative movement? Philandering clowns like MTG as our spokesman?

Foreign policy is another example. America First reduces complex geopolitical questions to a false choice between total disengagement and betrayal of national interest. Longstanding conservative doctrines such as "peace through strength" (see Reagan), strategic alliances, and deterrence are dismissed as "globalism" or "neoconservatism" without serious engagement. Or worse yet, it is seen as a capitulation to the whims and fancies of Israel, which of course resembles a subtle, but historical, antisemitic trope. I would submit that allowing such rhetoric to fester under the banner of "America First" nationalism is both ethically wrong and politically selfdestructive.

In short, your movement defines conservatism not by what it seeks to preserve, but by a posture of perpetual resentment against institutions, elites, allies, and even fellow conservatives. At this point, it's nothing more than a purely oppositional identity, and clowns like MTG, Nick Fuentes and Tucker are your spokesmans. That speaks volumes.


Who are the spokepersons for MAGA? Donald Trump, Randy Fine, Paula White, and Ben Shapiro?


You'll get no argument from me that Maga suffers from many of the same problems , which is one of the reasons I consider myself a traditional conservative and not Maga. I held my nose and voted for Trump. I am not a huge fan of many of his policies. He was simply far better than the alternative.

But at least maga has some semblance of a coherent set of policies that can be clearly defined. It's not merely grievance politics.

And in some sense, they are both represented by clowns although I don't think JD Vance and Rubio are clowns. But it's certainly better than MTG, Tucker, Carlson, Nick, Fuentes and Candace Owens lol


The Republican Party ultimately has two heads right now. What's left of the early 2000s GOP jumped ship to MAGA. AF and Groypers are the counter culture to that.

Give me an honorable Christian man in 2028, like Massie, and I'll vote for them.
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