Tucker's attempt to normalize Nick Fuentes

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Redbrickbear
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Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

Mothra said:



For the record, I was referring to the party of Nick Fuentes, an avowed white supremacist and anti-semite. Republicans don't need to become that, despite your buddy's belief to the contrary.


The GOP absolutely needs to be an Anglophile party, defend the faith, the language, the culture, and the institutions built by that heritage...and only let people in to the United States who are willing to do the same. There needs to be an absolute ban on Muslim immigration, for instance. Somalis and Haitians have to go back to the cesspools from which they came. That level of cultural incompatibility cannot be allowed to stand.

Legal immigrants of all backgrounds came here knowing that this was a nation and culture built by Anglo-Saxons. They didn't sign up for the mongolian hoarde that has poured over our southern border and destabilized the nation, nor for the H1B scam that is taking the jobs of their children.

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As for your question, there are plenty of writings - in particular Nazi propaganda - that lead to the conclusion that the Nazis did in fact consider the Aryan race (a smaller subset of the white race, Germanic in background) superior to other races. This is pretty much undisputed.


Aryan race, yes. But you missed the broader point. There is no "white" race. Their definition of Aryan was much more nuanced than your imprecise categories. They were anti-semitic in a very literal sense, having contempt for both Jewish and Muslim semites alike, yet admitting brown Aryans fully to their society.


Again, when I used the term "white" I was using that term as Nick Fuentes does. Ironically, he's of Hispanic heritage but considers himself "white." In other words, he, like a lot of people, is using that term broadly to describe people that have white skin. He's not referring to any specific heritage. So if you have a problem with a "lack of precision," your problem appears to be with Fuentes and not me, as I've offered no opinion on the subject.



But as a simple matter lots of people in Latin America who are Hispanic are in fact White (and lots of people there are other things as well)

Hispanic as we use the term is a cultural one.

["Hispanic" is a broad cultural and linguistic term referring to people with origins in Spanish-speaking countries, emphasizing shared heritage and language (Spanish), differentiating from the geographically-based "Latino" (Latin America) and encompassing diverse races]

Modern Americans...including liberals... use "white" to mean people who have light skin and have ethnic origins/descent originally from Europe long ago.

You can be from Latin America....and be Hispanic...and be White.

Mothra
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Redbrickbear said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

Mothra said:



For the record, I was referring to the party of Nick Fuentes, an avowed white supremacist and anti-semite. Republicans don't need to become that, despite your buddy's belief to the contrary.


The GOP absolutely needs to be an Anglophile party, defend the faith, the language, the culture, and the institutions built by that heritage...and only let people in to the United States who are willing to do the same. There needs to be an absolute ban on Muslim immigration, for instance. Somalis and Haitians have to go back to the cesspools from which they came. That level of cultural incompatibility cannot be allowed to stand.

Legal immigrants of all backgrounds came here knowing that this was a nation and culture built by Anglo-Saxons. They didn't sign up for the mongolian hoarde that has poured over our southern border and destabilized the nation, nor for the H1B scam that is taking the jobs of their children.

Quote:

As for your question, there are plenty of writings - in particular Nazi propaganda - that lead to the conclusion that the Nazis did in fact consider the Aryan race (a smaller subset of the white race, Germanic in background) superior to other races. This is pretty much undisputed.


Aryan race, yes. But you missed the broader point. There is no "white" race. Their definition of Aryan was much more nuanced than your imprecise categories. They were anti-semitic in a very literal sense, having contempt for both Jewish and Muslim semites alike, yet admitting brown Aryans fully to their society.


Again, when I used the term "white" I was using that term as Nick Fuentes does. Ironically, he's of Hispanic heritage but considers himself "white." In other words, he, like a lot of people, is using that term broadly to describe people that have white skin. He's not referring to any specific heritage. So if you have a problem with a "lack of precision," your problem appears to be with Fuentes and not me, as I've offered no opinion on the subject.



But as a simple matter lots of people in Latin America who are Hispanic are in fact White (and lots of people there are other things as well)

Hispanic as we use the term is a culturally one.

["Hispanic" is a broad cultural and linguistic term referring to people with origins in Spanish-speaking countries, emphasizing shared heritage and language (Spanish), differentiating from the geographically-based "Latino" (Latin America) and encompassing diverse races]

Modern Americans...including liberals... use "white" to mean people who have light skin and have ethnic origins/descent originally from Europe long ago.

You can be from Latin America....and be Hispanic...and be White.



His dad is of Mexican heritage. That of course could mean many different things.
Redbrickbear
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Mothra said:

Redbrickbear said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

Mothra said:



For the record, I was referring to the party of Nick Fuentes, an avowed white supremacist and anti-semite. Republicans don't need to become that, despite your buddy's belief to the contrary.


The GOP absolutely needs to be an Anglophile party, defend the faith, the language, the culture, and the institutions built by that heritage...and only let people in to the United States who are willing to do the same. There needs to be an absolute ban on Muslim immigration, for instance. Somalis and Haitians have to go back to the cesspools from which they came. That level of cultural incompatibility cannot be allowed to stand.

Legal immigrants of all backgrounds came here knowing that this was a nation and culture built by Anglo-Saxons. They didn't sign up for the mongolian hoarde that has poured over our southern border and destabilized the nation, nor for the H1B scam that is taking the jobs of their children.

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As for your question, there are plenty of writings - in particular Nazi propaganda - that lead to the conclusion that the Nazis did in fact consider the Aryan race (a smaller subset of the white race, Germanic in background) superior to other races. This is pretty much undisputed.


Aryan race, yes. But you missed the broader point. There is no "white" race. Their definition of Aryan was much more nuanced than your imprecise categories. They were anti-semitic in a very literal sense, having contempt for both Jewish and Muslim semites alike, yet admitting brown Aryans fully to their society.


Again, when I used the term "white" I was using that term as Nick Fuentes does. Ironically, he's of Hispanic heritage but considers himself "white." In other words, he, like a lot of people, is using that term broadly to describe people that have white skin. He's not referring to any specific heritage. So if you have a problem with a "lack of precision," your problem appears to be with Fuentes and not me, as I've offered no opinion on the subject.



But as a simple matter lots of people in Latin America who are Hispanic are in fact White (and lots of people there are other things as well)

Hispanic as we use the term is a culturally one.

["Hispanic" is a broad cultural and linguistic term referring to people with origins in Spanish-speaking countries, emphasizing shared heritage and language (Spanish), differentiating from the geographically-based "Latino" (Latin America) and encompassing diverse races]

Modern Americans...including liberals... use "white" to mean people who have light skin and have ethnic origins/descent originally from Europe long ago.

You can be from Latin America....and be Hispanic...and be White.



His dad is of Mexican heritage. That of course could mean many different things.


Could....but then again Mexican is a national identification. Its nationality and not race.

Just like American, Canadian, or South African is a national idenitication...it means citizens of that country.

Can of course be of any race.

There is no South African race, or Canadian race, or Mexican race....they are concepts of nationhood and citizenship
Mothra
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Redbrickbear said:

Mothra said:

Redbrickbear said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

Mothra said:



For the record, I was referring to the party of Nick Fuentes, an avowed white supremacist and anti-semite. Republicans don't need to become that, despite your buddy's belief to the contrary.


The GOP absolutely needs to be an Anglophile party, defend the faith, the language, the culture, and the institutions built by that heritage...and only let people in to the United States who are willing to do the same. There needs to be an absolute ban on Muslim immigration, for instance. Somalis and Haitians have to go back to the cesspools from which they came. That level of cultural incompatibility cannot be allowed to stand.

Legal immigrants of all backgrounds came here knowing that this was a nation and culture built by Anglo-Saxons. They didn't sign up for the mongolian hoarde that has poured over our southern border and destabilized the nation, nor for the H1B scam that is taking the jobs of their children.

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As for your question, there are plenty of writings - in particular Nazi propaganda - that lead to the conclusion that the Nazis did in fact consider the Aryan race (a smaller subset of the white race, Germanic in background) superior to other races. This is pretty much undisputed.


Aryan race, yes. But you missed the broader point. There is no "white" race. Their definition of Aryan was much more nuanced than your imprecise categories. They were anti-semitic in a very literal sense, having contempt for both Jewish and Muslim semites alike, yet admitting brown Aryans fully to their society.


Again, when I used the term "white" I was using that term as Nick Fuentes does. Ironically, he's of Hispanic heritage but considers himself "white." In other words, he, like a lot of people, is using that term broadly to describe people that have white skin. He's not referring to any specific heritage. So if you have a problem with a "lack of precision," your problem appears to be with Fuentes and not me, as I've offered no opinion on the subject.



But as a simple matter lots of people in Latin America who are Hispanic are in fact White (and lots of people there are other things as well)

Hispanic as we use the term is a culturally one.

["Hispanic" is a broad cultural and linguistic term referring to people with origins in Spanish-speaking countries, emphasizing shared heritage and language (Spanish), differentiating from the geographically-based "Latino" (Latin America) and encompassing diverse races]

Modern Americans...including liberals... use "white" to mean people who have light skin and have ethnic origins/descent originally from Europe long ago.

You can be from Latin America....and be Hispanic...and be White.



His dad is of Mexican heritage. That of course could mean many different things.


Could....but then again Mexican is a national identification. Its nationality and not race.

Just like American, Canadian, or South African is a national idenitication...it means citizens of that country.

Can of course be of any race.

There is no South African race, or Canadian race, or Mexican race....they are concepts of nationhood and citizenship

I don't disagree. One of my best friends is a redhead and pasty white. Last name is Sanchez, and his parents came from Mexico City.

This is of course why it's all the more unusual for Nick to make such a huge deal about white's interacting and marrying non whites. As you said, it's not some monolithic group.
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Mothra said:

Redbrickbear said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

Mothra said:



For the record, I was referring to the party of Nick Fuentes, an avowed white supremacist and anti-semite. Republicans don't need to become that, despite your buddy's belief to the contrary.


The GOP absolutely needs to be an Anglophile party, defend the faith, the language, the culture, and the institutions built by that heritage...and only let people in to the United States who are willing to do the same. There needs to be an absolute ban on Muslim immigration, for instance. Somalis and Haitians have to go back to the cesspools from which they came. That level of cultural incompatibility cannot be allowed to stand.

Legal immigrants of all backgrounds came here knowing that this was a nation and culture built by Anglo-Saxons. They didn't sign up for the mongolian hoarde that has poured over our southern border and destabilized the nation, nor for the H1B scam that is taking the jobs of their children.

Quote:

As for your question, there are plenty of writings - in particular Nazi propaganda - that lead to the conclusion that the Nazis did in fact consider the Aryan race (a smaller subset of the white race, Germanic in background) superior to other races. This is pretty much undisputed.


Aryan race, yes. But you missed the broader point. There is no "white" race. Their definition of Aryan was much more nuanced than your imprecise categories. They were anti-semitic in a very literal sense, having contempt for both Jewish and Muslim semites alike, yet admitting brown Aryans fully to their society.


Again, when I used the term "white" I was using that term as Nick Fuentes does. Ironically, he's of Hispanic heritage but considers himself "white." In other words, he, like a lot of people, is using that term broadly to describe people that have white skin. He's not referring to any specific heritage. So if you have a problem with a "lack of precision," your problem appears to be with Fuentes and not me, as I've offered no opinion on the subject.



But as a simple matter lots of people in Latin America who are Hispanic are in fact White (and lots of people there are other things as well)

Hispanic as we use the term is a culturally one.

["Hispanic" is a broad cultural and linguistic term referring to people with origins in Spanish-speaking countries, emphasizing shared heritage and language (Spanish), differentiating from the geographically-based "Latino" (Latin America) and encompassing diverse races]

Modern Americans...including liberals... use "white" to mean people who have light skin and have ethnic origins/descent originally from Europe long ago.

You can be from Latin America....and be Hispanic...and be White.



His dad is of Mexican heritage. That of course could mean many different things.


His dad is 50/50 between Irish and Mexican. His mom is Italian

Fwiw, he frequently acknowledges that he isn't completely white

Also im not ignoring your last reply. I'm just working rn
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Redbrickbear
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Mothra said:

Redbrickbear said:

Mothra said:

Redbrickbear said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

Mothra said:



For the record, I was referring to the party of Nick Fuentes, an avowed white supremacist and anti-semite. Republicans don't need to become that, despite your buddy's belief to the contrary.


The GOP absolutely needs to be an Anglophile party, defend the faith, the language, the culture, and the institutions built by that heritage...and only let people in to the United States who are willing to do the same. There needs to be an absolute ban on Muslim immigration, for instance. Somalis and Haitians have to go back to the cesspools from which they came. That level of cultural incompatibility cannot be allowed to stand.

Legal immigrants of all backgrounds came here knowing that this was a nation and culture built by Anglo-Saxons. They didn't sign up for the mongolian hoarde that has poured over our southern border and destabilized the nation, nor for the H1B scam that is taking the jobs of their children.

Quote:

As for your question, there are plenty of writings - in particular Nazi propaganda - that lead to the conclusion that the Nazis did in fact consider the Aryan race (a smaller subset of the white race, Germanic in background) superior to other races. This is pretty much undisputed.


Aryan race, yes. But you missed the broader point. There is no "white" race. Their definition of Aryan was much more nuanced than your imprecise categories. They were anti-semitic in a very literal sense, having contempt for both Jewish and Muslim semites alike, yet admitting brown Aryans fully to their society.


Again, when I used the term "white" I was using that term as Nick Fuentes does. Ironically, he's of Hispanic heritage but considers himself "white." In other words, he, like a lot of people, is using that term broadly to describe people that have white skin. He's not referring to any specific heritage. So if you have a problem with a "lack of precision," your problem appears to be with Fuentes and not me, as I've offered no opinion on the subject.



But as a simple matter lots of people in Latin America who are Hispanic are in fact White (and lots of people there are other things as well)

Hispanic as we use the term is a culturally one.

["Hispanic" is a broad cultural and linguistic term referring to people with origins in Spanish-speaking countries, emphasizing shared heritage and language (Spanish), differentiating from the geographically-based "Latino" (Latin America) and encompassing diverse races]

Modern Americans...including liberals... use "white" to mean people who have light skin and have ethnic origins/descent originally from Europe long ago.

You can be from Latin America....and be Hispanic...and be White.



His dad is of Mexican heritage. That of course could mean many different things.


Could....but then again Mexican is a national identification. Its nationality and not race.

Just like American, Canadian, or South African is a national idenitication...it means citizens of that country.

Can of course be of any race.

There is no South African race, or Canadian race, or Mexican race....they are concepts of nationhood and citizenship


This is of course why it's all the more unusual for Nick to make such a huge deal about white's interacting and marrying with other whites. As you said, it's not some monolithic group.


To progressive and liberals in America it is......

We can't forget that people like Fuentes and all kinds of "edge lord" style neo-racialists are a reaction from the hyper racism and race focus on the modern Left

When you talk about race all the time, push toxic narratives about "oppressors vs oppressed", and give out spoils, privileges, jobs, advancement, and advantages based on race.......even tear down historic statues, riot, and rename things....you are calling up an equal and opposite racial movement on the other side.

Racial identitarians on the Left....create racial identitarians on the Right

The Left has been working on racial/ethnic balkanization for 50+ years.....and they are the ones creating the toxic swamp...and all kinds of things to grow out of it
Mothra
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Redbrickbear said:

Mothra said:

Redbrickbear said:

Mothra said:

Redbrickbear said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

Mothra said:



For the record, I was referring to the party of Nick Fuentes, an avowed white supremacist and anti-semite. Republicans don't need to become that, despite your buddy's belief to the contrary.


The GOP absolutely needs to be an Anglophile party, defend the faith, the language, the culture, and the institutions built by that heritage...and only let people in to the United States who are willing to do the same. There needs to be an absolute ban on Muslim immigration, for instance. Somalis and Haitians have to go back to the cesspools from which they came. That level of cultural incompatibility cannot be allowed to stand.

Legal immigrants of all backgrounds came here knowing that this was a nation and culture built by Anglo-Saxons. They didn't sign up for the mongolian hoarde that has poured over our southern border and destabilized the nation, nor for the H1B scam that is taking the jobs of their children.

Quote:

As for your question, there are plenty of writings - in particular Nazi propaganda - that lead to the conclusion that the Nazis did in fact consider the Aryan race (a smaller subset of the white race, Germanic in background) superior to other races. This is pretty much undisputed.


Aryan race, yes. But you missed the broader point. There is no "white" race. Their definition of Aryan was much more nuanced than your imprecise categories. They were anti-semitic in a very literal sense, having contempt for both Jewish and Muslim semites alike, yet admitting brown Aryans fully to their society.


Again, when I used the term "white" I was using that term as Nick Fuentes does. Ironically, he's of Hispanic heritage but considers himself "white." In other words, he, like a lot of people, is using that term broadly to describe people that have white skin. He's not referring to any specific heritage. So if you have a problem with a "lack of precision," your problem appears to be with Fuentes and not me, as I've offered no opinion on the subject.



But as a simple matter lots of people in Latin America who are Hispanic are in fact White (and lots of people there are other things as well)

Hispanic as we use the term is a culturally one.

["Hispanic" is a broad cultural and linguistic term referring to people with origins in Spanish-speaking countries, emphasizing shared heritage and language (Spanish), differentiating from the geographically-based "Latino" (Latin America) and encompassing diverse races]

Modern Americans...including liberals... use "white" to mean people who have light skin and have ethnic origins/descent originally from Europe long ago.

You can be from Latin America....and be Hispanic...and be White.



His dad is of Mexican heritage. That of course could mean many different things.


Could....but then again Mexican is a national identification. Its nationality and not race.

Just like American, Canadian, or South African is a national idenitication...it means citizens of that country.

Can of course be of any race.

There is no South African race, or Canadian race, or Mexican race....they are concepts of nationhood and citizenship


This is of course why it's all the more unusual for Nick to make such a huge deal about white's interacting and marrying with other whites. As you said, it's not some monolithic group.


To progressive and liberals in America it is......

We can't forget that people like Fuentes and all kinds of "edge lord" style neo-racialists are a reaction from the hyper racism and race focus on the modern Left

When you talk about race all the time, push toxic narratives about "oppressors vs oppressed", and give out spoils, privileges, jobs, advancement, and advantages based on race.......even tear down historic statues, riot, and rename things....you are calling up an equal and opposite racial movement on the other side.

Racial identitarians on the Left....create racial identitarians on the Right

The Left has been working on racial/ethnic balkanization for 50+ years.....and they are the ones creating the toxic swamp...and all kinds of things to grow out of it

Don't disagree. Fuentes is certainly a reaction to the racial identity politics of the Left.

The problem is, doing something evil because your opponent is doing something evil is never a good idea.
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"White" is an American colloquialism that has come to mean Americans who are of European descent for pretty much my entire lifetime... we arent living in the 1900s when America was 90%+ white and there were a bunch of pure-blooded Anglos, Scots, Irish, & Germans.... nearly every "white" American in this country is a mixture of various European nationalities... even in Europe there are only a few major ethnicities: Germanics, Celts, & Slavs... Hungarians and Finns are unique... South Europeans are Latin which itself is a mix descended from Hellenic, Celtic, Germanic, North African, and Middle Eastern ancestors.
muddybrazos
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Mothra said:

Redbrickbear said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

Mothra said:



For the record, I was referring to the party of Nick Fuentes, an avowed white supremacist and anti-semite. Republicans don't need to become that, despite your buddy's belief to the contrary.


The GOP absolutely needs to be an Anglophile party, defend the faith, the language, the culture, and the institutions built by that heritage...and only let people in to the United States who are willing to do the same. There needs to be an absolute ban on Muslim immigration, for instance. Somalis and Haitians have to go back to the cesspools from which they came. That level of cultural incompatibility cannot be allowed to stand.

Legal immigrants of all backgrounds came here knowing that this was a nation and culture built by Anglo-Saxons. They didn't sign up for the mongolian hoarde that has poured over our southern border and destabilized the nation, nor for the H1B scam that is taking the jobs of their children.

Quote:

As for your question, there are plenty of writings - in particular Nazi propaganda - that lead to the conclusion that the Nazis did in fact consider the Aryan race (a smaller subset of the white race, Germanic in background) superior to other races. This is pretty much undisputed.


Aryan race, yes. But you missed the broader point. There is no "white" race. Their definition of Aryan was much more nuanced than your imprecise categories. They were anti-semitic in a very literal sense, having contempt for both Jewish and Muslim semites alike, yet admitting brown Aryans fully to their society.


Again, when I used the term "white" I was using that term as Nick Fuentes does. Ironically, he's of Hispanic heritage but considers himself "white." In other words, he, like a lot of people, is using that term broadly to describe people that have white skin. He's not referring to any specific heritage. So if you have a problem with a "lack of precision," your problem appears to be with Fuentes and not me, as I've offered no opinion on the subject.



But as a simple matter lots of people in Latin America who are Hispanic are in fact White (and lots of people there are other things as well)

Hispanic as we use the term is a culturally one.

["Hispanic" is a broad cultural and linguistic term referring to people with origins in Spanish-speaking countries, emphasizing shared heritage and language (Spanish), differentiating from the geographically-based "Latino" (Latin America) and encompassing diverse races]

Modern Americans...including liberals... use "white" to mean people who have light skin and have ethnic origins/descent originally from Europe long ago.

You can be from Latin America....and be Hispanic...and be White.



His dad is of Mexican heritage. That of course could mean many different things.

Ive seen him say his dad is half Mexican and half Irish His mother is full blooded Italian so hes pretty much a Catholic American mutt.
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Mothra said:

Redbrickbear said:

Mothra said:

Redbrickbear said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

Mothra said:



For the record, I was referring to the party of Nick Fuentes, an avowed white supremacist and anti-semite. Republicans don't need to become that, despite your buddy's belief to the contrary.


The GOP absolutely needs to be an Anglophile party, defend the faith, the language, the culture, and the institutions built by that heritage...and only let people in to the United States who are willing to do the same. There needs to be an absolute ban on Muslim immigration, for instance. Somalis and Haitians have to go back to the cesspools from which they came. That level of cultural incompatibility cannot be allowed to stand.

Legal immigrants of all backgrounds came here knowing that this was a nation and culture built by Anglo-Saxons. They didn't sign up for the mongolian hoarde that has poured over our southern border and destabilized the nation, nor for the H1B scam that is taking the jobs of their children.

Quote:

As for your question, there are plenty of writings - in particular Nazi propaganda - that lead to the conclusion that the Nazis did in fact consider the Aryan race (a smaller subset of the white race, Germanic in background) superior to other races. This is pretty much undisputed.


Aryan race, yes. But you missed the broader point. There is no "white" race. Their definition of Aryan was much more nuanced than your imprecise categories. They were anti-semitic in a very literal sense, having contempt for both Jewish and Muslim semites alike, yet admitting brown Aryans fully to their society.


Again, when I used the term "white" I was using that term as Nick Fuentes does. Ironically, he's of Hispanic heritage but considers himself "white." In other words, he, like a lot of people, is using that term broadly to describe people that have white skin. He's not referring to any specific heritage. So if you have a problem with a "lack of precision," your problem appears to be with Fuentes and not me, as I've offered no opinion on the subject.



But as a simple matter lots of people in Latin America who are Hispanic are in fact White (and lots of people there are other things as well)

Hispanic as we use the term is a culturally one.

["Hispanic" is a broad cultural and linguistic term referring to people with origins in Spanish-speaking countries, emphasizing shared heritage and language (Spanish), differentiating from the geographically-based "Latino" (Latin America) and encompassing diverse races]

Modern Americans...including liberals... use "white" to mean people who have light skin and have ethnic origins/descent originally from Europe long ago.

You can be from Latin America....and be Hispanic...and be White.



His dad is of Mexican heritage. That of course could mean many different things.


Could....but then again Mexican is a national identification. Its nationality and not race.

Just like American, Canadian, or South African is a national idenitication...it means citizens of that country.

Can of course be of any race.

There is no South African race, or Canadian race, or Mexican race....they are concepts of nationhood and citizenship

I don't disagree. One of my best friends is a redhead and pasty white. Last name is Sanchez, and his parents came from Mexico City.

This is of course why it's all the more unusual for Nick to make such a huge deal about white's interacting and marrying non whites. As you said, it's not some monolithic group.

Most groups whether white, Chinese, Indian, black Jewish etc like for their children to marry and procreate with those of the same group. This is human nature. Now I dont think it should be illegal but I personally want my children and grand children to look like me and my wife and I think most humans feel that same way. ANd dont get me wrong, I couldve certainly seen myself with a Japanese woman or especially a hispanic girl., I dont really see most hispanics in Texas as that much removed from whites. I did marry an Irish catholic girl from the south and I definitely want my daughter to marry a nice southern boy.
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Sacrificing freedom for identitarianism. Good Lord, the crazy left and crazy right have reached convergence.
ATL Bear
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A sexually frustrated twenty something lashing out at women, Jews, foreigners, and the world while lauding murderous despots is considered a "brave" cult hero. Congratulations on hacking human logic social media algorithms…
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ATL Bear said:

A sexually frustrated twenty something lashing out at women, Jews, foreigners, and the world while lauding murderous despots is considered a "brave" cult hero. Congratulations on hacking human logic social media algorithms…


As if jews and foreigners are innocent baby angels who also arent murderous authoritarians.... if I am am going to be ruled over with an iron fist... I'd prefer that person be from my tribe.

We've lived under a century of Pax Americana where natural law was replaced by common law... but high functioning, civilized societies can only operate under common law if the people are high trust.

With the declining birthrates of the Anglos and the rise in immigration we've seen the rise in corruption and deterioration of society at large. Things are becoming exponentially worse with every generation... just like our national debt...

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" I'd prefer that person be from my tribe"

Would that be Apache, Comanche, or Wehrmacht, mein herr?
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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Oldbear83 said:

" I'd prefer that person be from my tribe"

Would that be Apache, Comanche, or Wehrmacht, mein herr?


The_barBEARian
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You know how when you are a kid your parents send you to your grandparents farm to teach you the value of hard work, discipline, and gratitude for the cushy life you have back home?

I think some of the out of touch Boomers in this thread should be required to spend a year as a police officer... that might change their opinion on immigration and their flawed support for globalism.



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The_barBEARian said:

We've lived under a century of Pax Americana where natural law was replaced by common law... but high functioning, civilized societies can only operate under common law if the people are high trust.


My parents landed in New York the first time they came to visit the US before bringing me along as a one year old a couple of years later. They said that even in New York City, newspaper stands would have a coffee can out in which you could put change and take a paper based on the honor system.

We've lost our high trust society.

HOAs, gated neighborhoods, a national ID masquerading as a driver's license (Real ID)...

It must be restored.

Step 1 is a long (a decade at least) complete moratorium on all (legal and illegal) immigration with a couple of very small carve outs (individuals who marry American citizens, and billionaires who are willing to move capital to the country and create companies that hire a significant number of American citizens).

Step 2 is the expulsion of every last illegal alien and the expiration of status and return to their home country of unassimilable cultures.
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muddybrazos said:

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For the record, I was referring to the party of Nick Fuentes, an avowed white supremacist and anti-semite. Republicans don't need to become that, despite your buddy's belief to the contrary.


The GOP absolutely needs to be an Anglophile party, defend the faith, the language, the culture, and the institutions built by that heritage...and only let people in to the United States who are willing to do the same. There needs to be an absolute ban on Muslim immigration, for instance. Somalis and Haitians have to go back to the cesspools from which they came. That level of cultural incompatibility cannot be allowed to stand.

Legal immigrants of all backgrounds came here knowing that this was a nation and culture built by Anglo-Saxons. They didn't sign up for the mongolian hoarde that has poured over our southern border and destabilized the nation, nor for the H1B scam that is taking the jobs of their children.

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As for your question, there are plenty of writings - in particular Nazi propaganda - that lead to the conclusion that the Nazis did in fact consider the Aryan race (a smaller subset of the white race, Germanic in background) superior to other races. This is pretty much undisputed.


Aryan race, yes. But you missed the broader point. There is no "white" race. Their definition of Aryan was much more nuanced than your imprecise categories. They were anti-semitic in a very literal sense, having contempt for both Jewish and Muslim semites alike, yet admitting brown Aryans fully to their society.


Again, when I used the term "white" I was using that term as Nick Fuentes does. Ironically, he's of Hispanic heritage but considers himself "white." In other words, he, like a lot of people, is using that term broadly to describe people that have white skin. He's not referring to any specific heritage. So if you have a problem with a "lack of precision," your problem appears to be with Fuentes and not me, as I've offered no opinion on the subject.



But as a simple matter lots of people in Latin America who are Hispanic are in fact White (and lots of people there are other things as well)

Hispanic as we use the term is a culturally one.

["Hispanic" is a broad cultural and linguistic term referring to people with origins in Spanish-speaking countries, emphasizing shared heritage and language (Spanish), differentiating from the geographically-based "Latino" (Latin America) and encompassing diverse races]

Modern Americans...including liberals... use "white" to mean people who have light skin and have ethnic origins/descent originally from Europe long ago.

You can be from Latin America....and be Hispanic...and be White.



His dad is of Mexican heritage. That of course could mean many different things.


Could....but then again Mexican is a national identification. Its nationality and not race.

Just like American, Canadian, or South African is a national idenitication...it means citizens of that country.

Can of course be of any race.

There is no South African race, or Canadian race, or Mexican race....they are concepts of nationhood and citizenship

I don't disagree. One of my best friends is a redhead and pasty white. Last name is Sanchez, and his parents came from Mexico City.

This is of course why it's all the more unusual for Nick to make such a huge deal about white's interacting and marrying non whites. As you said, it's not some monolithic group.

Most groups whether white, Chinese, Indian, black Jewish etc like for their children to marry and procreate with those of the same group. This is human nature. Now I dont think it should be illegal but I personally want my children and grand children to look like me and my wife and I think most humans feel that same way. ANd dont get me wrong, I couldve certainly seen myself with a Japanese woman or especially a hispanic girl., I dont really see most hispanics in Texas as that much removed from whites. I did marry an Irish catholic girl from the south and I definitely want my daughter to marry a nice southern boy.

One's preference for their kids, and saying out loud that races shouldn't intermarry, are two very different things.

To criticize Vance for marrying an Indian woman, and then using a racist term to describe her, is disgusting. Time to stop defending ****ty conduct, muddy.
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ATL Bear said:

Sacrificing freedom for identitarianism. Good Lord, the crazy left and crazy right have reached convergence.

Yup.
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ATL Bear said:

A sexually frustrated twenty something lashing out at women, Jews, foreigners, and the world while lauding murderous despots is considered a "brave" cult hero. Congratulations on hacking human logic social media algorithms…

Indeed, there are some sickos that count themselves among the conservative ranks right now. Should this gain a bigger foothold, the party is in serious trouble of ever winning another election.

Yet these morons think focusing on issues that divide us by race is the way to go. Incredible.
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The_barBEARian said:

ATL Bear said:

A sexually frustrated twenty something lashing out at women, Jews, foreigners, and the world while lauding murderous despots is considered a "brave" cult hero. Congratulations on hacking human logic social media algorithms…


As if jews and foreigners are innocent baby angels who also arent murderous authoritarians.... if I am am going to be ruled over with an iron fist... I'd prefer that person be from my tribe.

We've lived under a century of Pax Americana where natural law was replaced by common law... but high functioning, civilized societies can only operate under common law if the people are high trust.

With the declining birthrates of the Anglos and the rise in immigration we've seen the rise in corruption and deterioration of society at large. Things are becoming exponentially worse with every generation... just like our national debt...



I asked you before - are you prepared for the coming race war? Will you pick up arms to defend your whiteness?
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The_barBEARian said:

You know how when you are a kid your parents send you to your grandparents farm to teach you the value of hard work, discipline, and gratitude for the cushy life you have back home?

I think some of the out of touch Boomers in this thread should be required to spend a year as a police officer... that might change their opinion on immigration and their flawed support for globalism.





What "Boomers" on this thread don't support DT's positions onimmigration and globalism? I see none.

You erect more strawmen than any poster on this board, and that is saying something.
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Mothra said:


I asked you before - are you prepared for the coming race war? Will you pick up arms to defend your whiteness?


It isn't a race war. It's always been a culture war.

The question is if you Christian Zionists are going to come down on the Christian side of that culture war, or the Zionist side of it. So far, your answers have been disappointing.
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Realitybites said:

The_barBEARian said:

We've lived under a century of Pax Americana where natural law was replaced by common law... but high functioning, civilized societies can only operate under common law if the people are high trust.


My parents landed in New York the first time they came to visit the US before bringing me along as a one year old a couple of years later. They said that even in New York City, newspaper stands would have a coffee can out in which you could put change and take a paper based on the honor system.

We've lost our high trust society.

HOAs, gated neighborhoods, a national ID masquerading as a driver's license (Real ID)...

It must be restored.

Step 1 is a long (a decade at least) complete moratorium on all (legal and illegal) immigration with a couple of very small carve outs (individuals who marry American citizens, and billionaires who are willing to move capital to the country and create companies that hire a significant number of American citizens).

Step 2 is the expulsion of every last illegal alien and the expiration of status and return to their home country of unassimilable cultures.

Step 3 is economic collapse.
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Mothra said:

ATL Bear said:

A sexually frustrated twenty something lashing out at women, Jews, foreigners, and the world while lauding murderous despots is considered a "brave" cult hero. Congratulations on hacking human logic social media algorithms…

Indeed, there are some sickos that count themselves among the conservative ranks right now. Should this gain a bigger foothold, the party is in serious trouble of ever winning another election.

Yet these morons think focusing on issues that divide us by race is the way to go. Incredible.

It's worked well enough for Trump.
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Realitybites said:

Mothra said:


I asked you before - are you prepared for the coming race war? Will you pick up arms to defend your whiteness?


It isn't a race war. It's always been a culture war.

The question is if you Christian Zionists are going to come down on the Christian side of that culture war, or the Zionist side of it. So far, your answers have been disappointing.

Zionism and antisemitism have always gone hand in hand. When it's their political nuts in the fire, Christian Zionists will rediscover this truth with a vengeance.
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Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

So many of the things you're saying about Fuentes are flat out wrong. Again, you're going off of 10 second clips as you admitted you haven't watched the show. You tell people to investigate but you need to go do your own before making bold statements like you've been doing here

That being the case, it should be easy then to point a few things you think I am wrong about. Let's discuss. Where am I wrong?


For starters, the whole Nazi thing. He has made it clear that he disavows the actions of Hitler and the third reich (and Stalin too). He admires them as great men of history, same pool as Caesar, Napoleon, Genghis Khan, etc. He also disavows all harmful acts towards Jews in general. Two recent incidents, one was when the kid dressed as a Nazi at a bar in Georgia, the other when the kid threw coins at Dave Portnoy. Fuentes disavowed both.

I think you guys are misunderstanding the white supremacy thing as well. He has stated that he believes all people are created equally in the eyes of God. He has black and Jewish friends that he collabs with frequently. However, he wants to preserve the white race as the demographic core of America and Europe. He has no intentions to harm/deport legal blacks, jews, or Indians

Sic 'em Bears and Go Birds
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The Left is driving young men to Fuentes types…and they don't care


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BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

So many of the things you're saying about Fuentes are flat out wrong. Again, you're going off of 10 second clips as you admitted you haven't watched the show. You tell people to investigate but you need to go do your own before making bold statements like you've been doing here

That being the case, it should be easy then to point a few things you think I am wrong about. Let's discuss. Where am I wrong?


For starters, the whole Nazi thing. He has made it clear that he disavows the actions of Hitler and the third reich (and Stalin too). He admires them as great men of history, same pool as Caesar, Napoleon, Genghis Khan, etc. He also disavows all harmful acts towards Jews in general. Two recent incidents, one was when the kid dressed as a Nazi at a bar in Georgia, the other when the kid threw coins at Dave Portnoy. Fuentes disavowed both.

I think you guys are misunderstanding the white supremacy thing as well. He has stated that he believes all people are created equally in the eyes of God. He has black and Jewish friends that he collabs with frequently. However, he wants to preserve the white race as the demographic core of America and Europe. He has no intentions to harm/deport legal blacks, jews, or Indians



Ah, let's see. We're talking about the same Nick Fuentes who recently assaulted a 58 year old Jewish woman, pepper sprayed her, broke her ribs, and who was convicted, ordered to apologize and do community service? Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini are not considered great men of history. Certainly the generation who fought them and those who died and suffered at their hands didn't think so, and history doesn't revere them as great men either. Rather as despots, psychopathic narcissists - men devoid of conscience, character, and morality. The same can be said of Genghis Khan, and Napoleon. I guess we can withhold judgement on Caesar, since he rose from the dead and ascended to heaven as a deity.

The issue isn't whether Fuentes personally commits violence or says "I disavow something." The issue is what he advocates and normalizes.

Saying you admire Hitler as a "great man of history" while claiming to reject Nazi crimes is incoherent and incompatible. Hitler's historical significance is inseparable from genocide, racial hierarchy, and totalitarianism. Who talks about serial killers as "great men" while disavowing murder? The admiration itself signals endorsement of the warped view that enabled the crimes.

White supremacy is not defined solely by explicit harm or deportation. The belief that America should be preserved as a "white demographic core" is, by definition, racial hierarchy where one race's dominance is treated as preferable or necessary. That's white supremacist ideology even if it's framed politely or religiously.

If all people are equal, "equal in God's eyes", then deliberately engineering or preserving racial dominance makes no moral sense. "Equal in God's eyes" is not compatible with demographic or racial dominance preservation. You can't simultaneously claim equality while advocating policies or cultural goals that privilege one race's continued dominance.

Personal friendships and relationships don't invalidate political beliefs. History is full of segregationists and antisemites who claimed friendships with individuals from the groups they opposed.

The larger concern is Fuentes' repeated rhetoric about women, Jews, democracy, and race not whether he distances himself when optics get bad.

Even if he says he has "no intention to harm or deport" minorities, promoting racial nationalism fuels hostility, exclusion, and radicalization. History shows that violence doesn't begin with violence it begins with ideas about who truly belongs.

You don't have to call for violence to be a white supremacist. Advocating the preservation of white racial dominance IS white supremacy, even if it's wrapped in religious language or disclaimers. Admiring Hitler while "disavowing his actions" is logically meaningless, and having minority friends doesn't negate an ideology built on racial hierarchy.
“It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.” ~ Upton Sinclair
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Lmao, very good goyim
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Mothra said:

The_barBEARian said:

ATL Bear said:

A sexually frustrated twenty something lashing out at women, Jews, foreigners, and the world while lauding murderous despots is considered a "brave" cult hero. Congratulations on hacking human logic social media algorithms…


As if jews and foreigners are innocent baby angels who also arent murderous authoritarians.... if I am am going to be ruled over with an iron fist... I'd prefer that person be from my tribe.

We've lived under a century of Pax Americana where natural law was replaced by common law... but high functioning, civilized societies can only operate under common law if the people are high trust.

With the declining birthrates of the Anglos and the rise in immigration we've seen the rise in corruption and deterioration of society at large. Things are becoming exponentially worse with every generation... just like our national debt...



I asked you before - are you prepared for the coming race war? Will you pick up arms to defend your whiteness?


You are literally a ****ing moron.
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TexasScientist said:


White supremacy is not defined solely by explicit harm or deportation. The belief that America should be preserved as a "white demographic core" is, by definition, racial hierarchy where one race's dominance is treated as preferable or necessary. That's white supremacist ideology even if it's framed politely or religiously.

If all people are equal, "equal in God's eyes",



Well, I guess that makes me the brownest white supremacist in America.

All people are created equal, or all people are equal in God's eyes does not mean all people are the same.

You only have to look at the rosters of the NFL or NBA to determine that to be the case.

Or the fact that outside of DEI efforts, the student bodies of America's colleges and universities would be almost exclusively "white" and "asian" (to use the classifications created to service those same DEI programs).

If you've never read the book "The Bell Curve", I strongly recommend it.
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TexasScientist said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

So many of the things you're saying about Fuentes are flat out wrong. Again, you're going off of 10 second clips as you admitted you haven't watched the show. You tell people to investigate but you need to go do your own before making bold statements like you've been doing here

That being the case, it should be easy then to point a few things you think I am wrong about. Let's discuss. Where am I wrong?


For starters, the whole Nazi thing. He has made it clear that he disavows the actions of Hitler and the third reich (and Stalin too). He admires them as great men of history, same pool as Caesar, Napoleon, Genghis Khan, etc. He also disavows all harmful acts towards Jews in general. Two recent incidents, one was when the kid dressed as a Nazi at a bar in Georgia, the other when the kid threw coins at Dave Portnoy. Fuentes disavowed both.

I think you guys are misunderstanding the white supremacy thing as well. He has stated that he believes all people are created equally in the eyes of God. He has black and Jewish friends that he collabs with frequently. However, he wants to preserve the white race as the demographic core of America and Europe. He has no intentions to harm/deport legal blacks, jews, or Indians



Ah, let's see. We're talking about the same Nick Fuentes who recently assaulted a 58 year old Jewish woman, pepper sprayed her, broke her ribs, and who was convicted, ordered to apologize and do community service? Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini are not considered great men of history. Certainly the generation who fought them and those who died and suffered at their hands didn't think so, and history doesn't revere them as great men either. Rather as despots, psychopathic narcissists - men devoid of conscience, character, and morality. The same can be said of Genghis Khan, and Napoleon. I guess we can withhold judgement on Caesar, since he rose from the dead and ascended to heaven as a deity.

The issue isn't whether Fuentes personally commits violence or says "I disavow something." The issue is what he advocates and normalizes.

Saying you admire Hitler as a "great man of history" while claiming to reject Nazi crimes is incoherent and incompatible. Hitler's historical significance is inseparable from genocide, racial hierarchy, and totalitarianism. Who talks about serial killers as "great men" while disavowing murder? The admiration itself signals endorsement of the warped view that enabled the crimes.

White supremacy is not defined solely by explicit harm or deportation. The belief that America should be preserved as a "white demographic core" is, by definition, racial hierarchy where one race's dominance is treated as preferable or necessary. That's white supremacist ideology even if it's framed politely or religiously.

If all people are equal, "equal in God's eyes", then deliberately engineering or preserving racial dominance makes no moral sense. "Equal in God's eyes" is not compatible with demographic or racial dominance preservation. You can't simultaneously claim equality while advocating policies or cultural goals that privilege one race's continued dominance.

Personal friendships and relationships don't invalidate political beliefs. History is full of segregationists and antisemites who claimed friendships with individuals from the groups they opposed.

The larger concern is Fuentes' repeated rhetoric about women, Jews, democracy, and race not whether he distances himself when optics get bad.

Even if he says he has "no intention to harm or deport" minorities, promoting racial nationalism fuels hostility, exclusion, and radicalization. History shows that violence doesn't begin with violence it begins with ideas about who truly belongs.

You don't have to call for violence to be a white supremacist. Advocating the preservation of white racial dominance IS white supremacy, even if it's wrapped in religious language or disclaimers. Admiring Hitler while "disavowing his actions" is logically meaningless, and having minority friends doesn't negate an ideology built on racial hierarchy.



Well said Scientist
 
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