TexasScientist said:BigGameBaylorBear said:Mothra said:BigGameBaylorBear said:
So many of the things you're saying about Fuentes are flat out wrong. Again, you're going off of 10 second clips as you admitted you haven't watched the show. You tell people to investigate but you need to go do your own before making bold statements like you've been doing here
That being the case, it should be easy then to point a few things you think I am wrong about. Let's discuss. Where am I wrong?
For starters, the whole Nazi thing. He has made it clear that he disavows the actions of Hitler and the third reich (and Stalin too). He admires them as great men of history, same pool as Caesar, Napoleon, Genghis Khan, etc. He also disavows all harmful acts towards Jews in general. Two recent incidents, one was when the kid dressed as a Nazi at a bar in Georgia, the other when the kid threw coins at Dave Portnoy. Fuentes disavowed both.
I think you guys are misunderstanding the white supremacy thing as well. He has stated that he believes all people are created equally in the eyes of God. He has black and Jewish friends that he collabs with frequently. However, he wants to preserve the white race as the demographic core of America and Europe. He has no intentions to harm/deport legal blacks, jews, or Indians
Ah, let's see. We're talking about the same Nick Fuentes who recently assaulted a 58 year old Jewish woman, pepper sprayed her, broke her ribs, and who was convicted, ordered to apologize and do community service? Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini are not considered great men of history. Certainly the generation who fought them and those who died and suffered at their hands didn't think so, and history doesn't revere them as great men either. Rather as despots, psychopathic narcissists - men devoid of conscience, character, and morality. The same can be said of Genghis Khan, and Napoleon. I guess we can withhold judgement on Caesar, since he rose from the dead and ascended to heaven as a deity.
The issue isn't whether Fuentes personally commits violence or says "I disavow something." The issue is what he advocates and normalizes.
Saying you admire Hitler as a "great man of history" while claiming to reject Nazi crimes is incoherent and incompatible. Hitler's historical significance is inseparable from genocide, racial hierarchy, and totalitarianism. Who talks about serial killers as "great men" while disavowing murder? The admiration itself signals endorsement of the warped view that enabled the crimes.
White supremacy is not defined solely by explicit harm or deportation. The belief that America should be preserved as a "white demographic core" is, by definition, racial hierarchy where one race's dominance is treated as preferable or necessary. That's white supremacist ideology even if it's framed politely or religiously.
If all people are equal, "equal in God's eyes", then deliberately engineering or preserving racial dominance makes no moral sense. "Equal in God's eyes" is not compatible with demographic or racial dominance preservation. You can't simultaneously claim equality while advocating policies or cultural goals that privilege one race's continued dominance.
Personal friendships and relationships don't invalidate political beliefs. History is full of segregationists and antisemites who claimed friendships with individuals from the groups they opposed.
The larger concern is Fuentes' repeated rhetoric about women, Jews, democracy, and race not whether he distances himself when optics get bad.
Even if he says he has "no intention to harm or deport" minorities, promoting racial nationalism fuels hostility, exclusion, and radicalization. History shows that violence doesn't begin with violence it begins with ideas about who truly belongs.
You don't have to call for violence to be a white supremacist. Advocating the preservation of white racial dominance IS white supremacy, even if it's wrapped in religious language or disclaimers. Admiring Hitler while "disavowing his actions" is logically meaningless, and having minority friends doesn't negate an ideology built on racial hierarchy.
His address got doxxed and she choose to show up at his house ring his doorbell with her camera phone phone out with the intention to cause problems...this is the most straightforward case of FAFO in human history.
