Robert Wilson said:
Osodecentx said:
35 pages on a guy who thinks Hitler is cool
The Vivek vs Nick paradigm pretty well illustrates mainstream views on productive immigration versus the more hardcore populist/nationalist folks Trump scooped up (because they used to be Democrats, and the Democrats abandoned them). Everyone sane agreed that the way immigration was handled (or not handled at all) under Biden was ridiculous and dangerous. So we shut down the borders and start deporting illegal immigrants focusing on the criminals first. Cool. Everyone in both groups is more or less (roughly speaking) good with that.
Ok, now what about legal immigrants and their progeny like Vivek and his parents, Usha Vance and her parents, etc. Turns out ... most people are cool with that. These are highly productive, highly intelligent, excellent citizens who came here legally. People who judge based on merit are good with that.
The blood and soil types, who heavily tend to be the same victimhood clutching losers who are mad at "the Jews" and "the Boomers," are pissed once they realize that the rest of the crowd was not just a blood and soil nationalist (I don't need to use the term racist here, so I won't). So Vivek and the VP's wife are "anchor babies," etc.
Anyone that frames their views based on some sort of ethnic or racial identity or the like rather than merit can pound sand. That goes for the left and the right. We need to breed a society that appreciates and applauds merit, not a bunch of whiners looking to point the finger to blame others for their lack of success.
Just compare Vivek's or Usha's bio/CV to Nick's. Sweet Jesus.
A lot of us in this thread have families who have been here building this country from the ground up for hundreds of years over many generations. Our families fought the wars, plowed the fields, laid down the railroads, and craved entire cities out of inhospitable wilderness.
Our ancestors didn't sacrifice their blood, sweat, and tears so some guy could come over here from the other end of the world, take a standardized test, and get a point or two higher so now he "deserves" to go to that prestigious university or medical school with all those networking opportunities become apart of our ruling class and call us un-American while explaining what being an American is to the people who have lived here for hundreds of years.
So yeah give me blood and soil over meritocracy. And anyone who disagrees can go join the Democrats. We already have one anti-American party. We dont need another.