Realitybites said:
Mothra said:
Realitybites said:
Mothra said:
Realitybites said:
Oldbear83 said:
No, I'd say most Jews view Christians the way most Christians view Mormons.
We also have the early church for evidence. The Christians were banished from Jewish synagogues and communities, but were generally not hunted down and killed except in extreme cases as we saw with Saul who became Paul.
"Paul's own testimony in 2 Corinthians 11:24 confirms the severity of Jewish persecution: "Five times I received from the Jews the forty lashes minus one." His conversion did not end the hostility, he was forced to flee Damascus and later faced stoning in Lystra. The Jewish leadership in Jerusalem also executed James the Just, the brother of Jesus, around 62 CE, under the high priest Ananus ben Ananus. He was hurled off the Temple parapet for proclaiming Jesus and Christ and beaten to death on the ground with a fuller's club."
It was after this that the early church began to relocate to Pella in Jordan, abandoning Jerusalem before it was sacked and destroyed by the Romans in 70 A.D. This is also the historical root of preterist eschatology; I know we have one who used to post here.
"While Roman authorities later became prominent persecutors especially under Nero in 64 AD early persecution was primarily Jewish-led, driven by theological conflict and rejection of Jesus as the Messiah."
This history is also supported by Josephus' writings in The Antiquities of the Jews.
This is not how Christians treat Mormons.
So, because 2000 years ago Jews persecuted Christians, we can clearly extrapolate that Israel would exterminate all Christians today if they had the opportunity.
Remarkable logic. You just can't make this crap up.
You're ignoring the evidence that they are doing that.
What evidence do you have today that the Israeli government is exterminating Christians?
From persecuting to exterminating.
From Jews to the Israeli government.
You have a great deal of linguistic drift in your posts.
The evidence is there. It's there in the Book of Acts. Its there in post apostolic history. Its there in the history fo the 20th and 21st centuries. You just refuse to see it.
Violence against Christians is on the rise in Israel
Let's revisit your initial comments in response to me:
"You realize that the only reason we can peacefully co-exist is because we outnumber them, right? It's not because of some inherent moral restraint in the teachings of Judaism, Hinduism, or Islam. When we cease to outnumber them we get "and they cast
him out of the city
and stoned him" (Acts 7:58) and "Meanwhile, Saul was
still breathing out murderous threats against the Lord's disciples" (Acts 9:1). That's the default state of Judaism when it comes to the Lord's disciples."
I sought clarification in response to your comments, asking: "So, your position is that if Jews outnumbered Christians, they would slaughter Christianity?"
Your response? "Of course they would."
Sorry, but when someone takes you at your word, that's not "linguistic drift." Now, perhaps your position was poorly worded, or you were being your typically overly dramatic self when you pronounced that Jews as a people would slaughter Christians if they had the numbers.
If you are now wanting to walk back your comments, I certainly understand given how ridiculous they were, but I would suggest its best to admit you made an overstatement instead of falsely accusing someone of mischaracterizing your position.
Ironically, I do not disagree with you that Christianity is inherently more peaceful than every other religion. It has the market cornered on truth and love, no question. I also don't disagree that many Jews, especially the Orthodox, are unyielding in their violent beliefs. I have no respect for them, and they should get what is coming to them on judgment day.
But the idea that if all Jews, or say Israel, would wipe out Christians friendly to them is just unsupported tripe.