Tucker's attempt to normalize Nick Fuentes

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Who besides barbaerian listens to Fuentes & cares what he thinks?




Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan, and Nick Fuentes have a larger audience than Fox, CNN, and MSNBC. So people better start caring what they think. This war has changed the face of the midterms and makes a democratic majority in the House and Senate almost inevitable.

polling at this time does not support the inevitability of a Dem house & senate.


As President Donald Trump directs military strikes on Iran, he's also fighting online attacks at home from some of the loudest voices in his MAGA political movement.
"This is Israel's war. This is not the United States' war," former Fox News host Tucker Carlson said Tuesday on his weekly political podcast.


"No one should have to die for a foreign country," Megyn Kelly, another former Fox News host with a massive online following, said on her podcast Monday.
Daily Wire podcaster Matt Walsh beseeched fellow conservatives on Monday to stop supporting Trump's military campaign. "I can't take the gaslighting, guys. I really can't," he wrote on X.

Remember "noise vs signal."

He's already won the argument on attacking Iran.




***Disclaimer***

CBS is a zionist propaganda vehicle that was recently purchased by Larry Ellison, who is one of the largest private funders of the IDF, who installed Bari Weiss, another super zionist, as editor-in-chief.


CBS polling consistently skews blue.

The red polling units show better numbers than CBS does


Ergo, your rant is just more noise to prevent you from dealing with reality, which is that you're wrong on all counts and not interested in figuring out why.



If your point is most Americans support this intervention, you are the one not dealing with reality.

Democrats and Independents are unanimously opposed and joined by nearly half of all Republican voters.

If you read his post, his point was the predictions regarding a Democrat sweep are not nearly as dire as you have painted them. He said nothing about the Iran attack.
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Mothra said:

The_barBEARian said:

whiterock said:

The_barBEARian said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Realitybites said:

Osodecentx said:

boognish_bear said:




Who besides barbaerian listens to Fuentes & cares what he thinks?




Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan, and Nick Fuentes have a larger audience than Fox, CNN, and MSNBC. So people better start caring what they think. This war has changed the face of the midterms and makes a democratic majority in the House and Senate almost inevitable.

polling at this time does not support the inevitability of a Dem house & senate.


As President Donald Trump directs military strikes on Iran, he's also fighting online attacks at home from some of the loudest voices in his MAGA political movement.
"This is Israel's war. This is not the United States' war," former Fox News host Tucker Carlson said Tuesday on his weekly political podcast.


"No one should have to die for a foreign country," Megyn Kelly, another former Fox News host with a massive online following, said on her podcast Monday.
Daily Wire podcaster Matt Walsh beseeched fellow conservatives on Monday to stop supporting Trump's military campaign. "I can't take the gaslighting, guys. I really can't," he wrote on X.

Remember "noise vs signal."

He's already won the argument on attacking Iran.




***Disclaimer***

CBS is a zionist propaganda vehicle that was recently purchased by Larry Ellison, who is one of the largest private funders of the IDF, who installed Bari Weiss, another super zionist, as editor-in-chief.


CBS polling consistently skews blue.

The red polling units show better numbers than CBS does


Ergo, your rant is just more noise to prevent you from dealing with reality, which is that you're wrong on all counts and not interested in figuring out why.



If your point is most Americans support this intervention, you are the one not dealing with reality.

Democrats and Independents are unanimously opposed and joined by nearly half of all Republican voters.

If you read his post, his point was the predictions regarding a Democrat sweep are not nearly as dire as you have painted them. He said nothing about the Iran attack.


Remember "noise vs signal."

He's already won the argument on attacking Iran.

-whiterock
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Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

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boognish_bear said:




Who besides barbaerian listens to Fuentes & cares what he thinks?




Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan, and Nick Fuentes have a larger audience than Fox, CNN, and MSNBC. So people better start caring what they think. This war has changed the face of the midterms and makes a democratic majority in the House and Senate almost inevitable.

I'll give you Joe Rogan, who's not even a conservative, but Tucker and Nick aren't going to have much sway on anything. Is there a loud and vocal small minority of wingnuts that listen to Tucker and Nick and share their anti-Jewish views? Sure. But they are just that - a loud and vocal small minority. The vast majority of conservatives do not.

I don't have any issue with being skeptical of Netanyahu and Israel's influence, but allowing the wingnuts to take over the party would be the worst thing for Republicans in terms of winning future elections, as the democrats learned in 2024. The fringe often times yells the loudest, but has the least amount of support.

I am sure that's difficult for you to see when you're a part of the fringe.


I guess we are going to find out where everyone stands in November. But I would strongly advise against dismissing everyone who doesn't share your views about Israel as antisemitic wingnuts.
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Realitybites said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

Osodecentx said:

boognish_bear said:




Who besides barbaerian listens to Fuentes & cares what he thinks?




Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan, and Nick Fuentes have a larger audience than Fox, CNN, and MSNBC. So people better start caring what they think. This war has changed the face of the midterms and makes a democratic majority in the House and Senate almost inevitable.

I'll give you Joe Rogan, who's not even a conservative, but Tucker and Nick aren't going to have much sway on anything. Is there a loud and vocal small minority of wingnuts that listen to Tucker and Nick and share their anti-Jewish views? Sure. But they are just that - a loud and vocal small minority. The vast majority of conservatives do not.

I don't have any issue with being skeptical of Netanyahu and Israel's influence, but allowing the wingnuts to take over the party would be the worst thing for Republicans in terms of winning future elections, as the democrats learned in 2024. The fringe often times yells the loudest, but has the least amount of support.

I am sure that's difficult for you to see when you're a part of the fringe.


I guess we are going to find out where everyone stands in November. But I would strongly advise against dismissing everyone who doesn't share your views about Israel as antisemitic wingnuts.

I am not sure we will find out anything in November. Trump was likely going to lose before the Iranian airstrike. That's what usually happens in the midterms. The party in power loses.

As for the rest, I certainly don't dismiss those who disagree with my positions on Israel as antisemitic wingnuts. I dismiss those whose views independently rise to that level, and that would certainly apply to both Tucker and Fuentes.
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The_barBEARian said:

Mothra said:

The_barBEARian said:

whiterock said:

The_barBEARian said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Realitybites said:

Osodecentx said:

boognish_bear said:




Who besides barbaerian listens to Fuentes & cares what he thinks?




Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan, and Nick Fuentes have a larger audience than Fox, CNN, and MSNBC. So people better start caring what they think. This war has changed the face of the midterms and makes a democratic majority in the House and Senate almost inevitable.

polling at this time does not support the inevitability of a Dem house & senate.


As President Donald Trump directs military strikes on Iran, he's also fighting online attacks at home from some of the loudest voices in his MAGA political movement.
"This is Israel's war. This is not the United States' war," former Fox News host Tucker Carlson said Tuesday on his weekly political podcast.


"No one should have to die for a foreign country," Megyn Kelly, another former Fox News host with a massive online following, said on her podcast Monday.
Daily Wire podcaster Matt Walsh beseeched fellow conservatives on Monday to stop supporting Trump's military campaign. "I can't take the gaslighting, guys. I really can't," he wrote on X.

Remember "noise vs signal."

He's already won the argument on attacking Iran.




***Disclaimer***

CBS is a zionist propaganda vehicle that was recently purchased by Larry Ellison, who is one of the largest private funders of the IDF, who installed Bari Weiss, another super zionist, as editor-in-chief.


CBS polling consistently skews blue.

The red polling units show better numbers than CBS does


Ergo, your rant is just more noise to prevent you from dealing with reality, which is that you're wrong on all counts and not interested in figuring out why.



If your point is most Americans support this intervention, you are the one not dealing with reality.

Democrats and Independents are unanimously opposed and joined by nearly half of all Republican voters.

If you read his post, his point was the predictions regarding a Democrat sweep are not nearly as dire as you have painted them. He said nothing about the Iran attack.


Remember "noise vs signal."

He's already won the argument on attacking Iran.

-whiterock

CBS polling consistently skews blue.

The red polling units show better numbers than CBS does
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Mothra said:

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The Pro-Israel crowd will always call you an Anti-Semite but never tell you you're wrong

Hogwash. It's hard to think of anything you Groypers have been right about.


Lmao, you wish. He predicted this current Iranian conflict years in advance

So, because he predicted some type of conflict with Iran, he's some sort of soothsayer?

LOL. He's a degenerate. Guys attacks others based on race, and actively supports voting Dem, among other things. He's an unmarried, impotent closet homo.

Your Lord and Savior is a complete loser


The usual. You make an asinine claim and immediately get proven wrong. Only to scramble and pull out meaningless insults.

Right out of the leftist playbook!

Just to be clear, you think you "proved" my difficulty recalling anything the Groypers have been right about "wrong" because we performed an aerial strike on Iran?

Lol. As I said, Nick is a soothsayer. Watch it, he might predict the sun rises tomorrow!

In all seriousness, you really need to work on your "gotchas." I went back to try and find what Nick allegedly predicted, and the only thing I see is he said the US would go to war for Israel, at some point, and that after the 12-day war ended, Nick said "this is not done." Honestly, if you think that is impressive, well, you are easily impressed. It's certainly not difficult to predict that there might be additional aerial attacks on Iran.

But let's be honest: the real reason Nick is so upset is because it's all about Israel for him. He had no problem with attacking Venezuela, and with the regime change there. In fact, he cheered that effort, and encouraged the US to kill the Venezuelans and take their old.

The reason he has a problem with Iran is because Nick hates Jews, and that is what makes him so mad about this attack - he thinks it's helping Israel. And that is the only difference.

It also doesn't change the fact your hero is an impotent and racist, white homo, of course. I've always thought you millenials were a bit on the effeminate side. Maybe that's the attraction.






You made an asinine claim that Groypers have never been right about anything. Here's a clip from the day after October 7th. There's more, of course. Now you're back tracking saying that it was a broad prediction that we all saw coming… doubt it.

As for Venezuela, his opinion makes total sense if you give it an honest listen. But you won't do that because it's easier to call someone an anti-Semite.

And I'm not a millennial, not sure where that came from


LOL. I can't believe you are so butthurt over my comments regarding your racist homo that you are belaboring the point, but what I actually said was: "It's hard to think of anything you Groypers have been right about."

For those of horrid reading comprehension, what that means is I couldn't think of anything the Groypers have been right about. I didn't say Nick hasn't been right about anything. Even a broken clock gets the time right twice a day.

As for Venezuela, never suggested his position doesn't make sense (there's that reading comprehension again). I said it's inconsistent with his position on Iran, but again, that's because of the Jews.

It's a safe bet that if you worship the POS, you are of a certain demographic. White, millenial, single, 20-30 something. How old are you? Married? Children?


LMAO! You're seething with rage. No one hates a young white man more than the bitter neo-con boomer

You know nothing about me and all I will say is I am Gen Z (which I have said multiple times now)

So...you're correct, I don't know your demographic...

...which is, um, why I, you know, asked?

Think there is some projection going on here. You Groypers seem like an angry lot.

But your age does indeed explain a lot. Is there a reason you're afraid to share your age, or whether you're married?


Not afraid but figured you'll mostly likely try to use my demographics ad hominem. But since you're so curious, I'm 25, in a relationship, no children.

And I'm not angry at all. I've come to accept that there's a very real chance that our nation and way of life won't make it to the next century. But I'll do everything I can to save our country


Good for you. You're a bit older than my oldest son.

But the age does explain the infatuation with Fuentes, whose audience is quite often younger than him. I'd suggest looking elsewhere than Fuentes for role models. The guy is a terrible human being and you can do much better, even if you agree with some of the things he says.

As for the state of the country, it's never bad as young people believe. I felt the same way at your age as we were suffering through the Clinton presidency. Time has a way of providing perspective. It's never as bad as doomcasters like Fuentes suggest.


Rest assured, I don't worship any of these people. I enjoy Fuentes' content but he's an entertainer as much as he is an analyst. Controversial is his brand
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Its bizzare... when I went to church as a kid all they ever talked about was Jesus... nowadays the only thing these churches talk about are jews and Israel...


How would you know?

Curious what church you attended. Denomination.


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this is a good watch and we are reminded that we believe in the one holy, Catholic and apostolic church.
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Amen
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muddybrazos said:



this is a good watch and we are reminded that we believe in the one holy, Catholic and apostolic church.


Interesting…..however much of what he discusses…..is way over my head.
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The_barBEARian said:

whiterock said:

The_barBEARian said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Realitybites said:

Osodecentx said:

boognish_bear said:




Who besides barbaerian listens to Fuentes & cares what he thinks?




Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan, and Nick Fuentes have a larger audience than Fox, CNN, and MSNBC. So people better start caring what they think. This war has changed the face of the midterms and makes a democratic majority in the House and Senate almost inevitable.

polling at this time does not support the inevitability of a Dem house & senate.


As President Donald Trump directs military strikes on Iran, he's also fighting online attacks at home from some of the loudest voices in his MAGA political movement.
"This is Israel's war. This is not the United States' war," former Fox News host Tucker Carlson said Tuesday on his weekly political podcast.


"No one should have to die for a foreign country," Megyn Kelly, another former Fox News host with a massive online following, said on her podcast Monday.
Daily Wire podcaster Matt Walsh beseeched fellow conservatives on Monday to stop supporting Trump's military campaign. "I can't take the gaslighting, guys. I really can't," he wrote on X.

Remember "noise vs signal."

He's already won the argument on attacking Iran.




***Disclaimer***

CBS is a zionist propaganda vehicle that was recently purchased by Larry Ellison, who is one of the largest private funders of the IDF, who installed Bari Weiss, another super zionist, as editor-in-chief.


CBS polling consistently skews blue.

The red polling units show better numbers than CBS does


Ergo, your rant is just more noise to prevent you from dealing with reality, which is that you're wrong on all counts and not interested in figuring out why.



If your point is most Americans support this intervention, you are the one not dealing with reality.

Democrats and Independents are unanimously opposed and joined by nearly half of all Republican voters.

if you've looked at the polling, you haven't understood it very well. There are a number of them out there showing a majority support what we are doing (bombing campaign of a few weeks).

You are nowhere near the mainstream, dude. You're in a single digit subset of the conservative movement which remains strongly in support of Trump - 85-95% range depending on the polls and questions asked.
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muddybrazos said:



this is a good watch and we are reminded that we believe in the one holy, Catholic and apostolic church.

Somehow I missed this bit of history.

Rebuilding the Jewish Temple was already tried once, in 363 A.D., around 300 years after God permitted its destruction.

Pagan Attempt to Rebuild the Jerusalem Temple Thwarted
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What the **** is happening to his eyebrows?!?!

Looks like a chia pet!
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The_barBEARian said:

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What the **** is happening to his eyebrows?!?!

Looks like a chia pet!


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boognish_bear said:




True dat
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Osodecentx said:

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True dat

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Nah fr what happened to his eyebrows LMAO
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BigGameBaylorBear said:

Nah fr what happened to his eyebrows LMAO


The closer they get to building the 3rd Temple and summoning the Anti-Christ, the larger his eyebrows get///

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Mothra said:

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Its bizzare... when I went to church as a kid all they ever talked about was Jesus... nowadays the only thing these churches talk about are jews and Israel...


How would you know?

Curious what church you attended. Denomination.

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Thanks for posting that. I was looking for that Greg Locke clip and couldn't find it yesterday.

Public Service Announcement: If you're going to the meeting of a tax exempt organization on a Sunday morning that does that sort of thing, find a different tax exempt organization to go to.
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Sic 'em Bears and Go Birds
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Carlson's claim that "unconditional surrender means foreign troops get to rape your wife and daughter if they want" merits a response, since many uninformed and misinformed people follow him.
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The Armies of the Beast How a 19th-Century Invention Became America's Favorite Prophecy

I don't put much credence in their exposition of the how the Jews viewed the messiah because they rejected Him when he came. But the takedown of pretribulation dispensationalism is pretty brutal.

"The version of Armageddon that 63% of American evangelicals believe in, the Rapture, the seven-year Tribulation, the singular Antichrist, the dispensational timeline, was not taught by Paul. It was not taught by Augustine. It was not taught by Luther or Calvin. It was not part of any church creed for eighteen centuries of Christian history. It was invented, substantially, by one man.

John Nelson Darby was an Anglo-Irish lawyer who became a Plymouth Brethren evangelist in the 1820s and 1830s. During a period of convalescence, he developed the theological framework now called dispensationalism: the idea that God operates through distinct historical periods, or "dispensations," with different rules for each. His central innovation was a sharp separation between God's plan for Israel and God's plan for the Church, two tracks running simultaneously through history.

From this architecture, Darby derived what became the pre-tribulation Rapture: the idea that before a seven-year period of global catastrophe, Christians would be secretly "caught up" to heaven, leaving the rest of humanity behind. This reading depended on 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17, where Paul writes about believers being "caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air." Paul was describing the order of resurrection, not a disappearing act. The word "rapture" does not appear in any English translation of the Bible. It comes from the Latin rapturo in the Vulgate's translation of the Greek harpazo.

Some scholars trace possible earlier influences to Margaret Macdonald's 1830 vision and Edward Irving's prophecy movement. But the systematic theology, the dispensational framework that made the Rapture make sense as a doctrinal proposition, was Darby's. He made seven tours of North America between 1862 and 1877, planting his ideas through the Niagara Bible Conference movement, where they took root among American evangelicals.

The Scofield Reference Bible, published in 1909 by Oxford University Press, was the delivery mechanism that turned a fringe theology into mainstream doctrine. C.I. Scofield embedded Darby's interpretive framework directly onto the pages of Scripture, as footnotes and margin notes printed alongside the biblical text. The format created the illusion that these interpretations were the natural, obvious reading, rather than a novel 19th-century construction. Seminaries adopted it. Churches assigned it. Bible study groups treated the notes and the text as a single unified authority. Matthew Avery Sutton, a historian at Washington State University, called the Scofield Bible "perhaps the most influential religious text" of early 20th-century American Christianity.

When Fiction Replaced Scripture

By the second half of the 20th century, the primary vector for apocalyptic belief was no longer theology. It was entertainment.

Hal Lindsey's The Late, Great Planet Earth, published in 1970, was the best-selling nonfiction book of the decade, moving over 35 million copies. Lindsey translated Darby's framework into accessible, contemporary language, complete with specific predictions: Israel's founding in 1948 was the prophetic trigger; a biblical "generation" was roughly 40 years; therefore the Rapture would occur around 1981 and Christ's return around 1988. He identified the Soviet Union as the "northern power" of Ezekiel's prophecy, Gog and Magog riding south from Moscow.

The Rapture did not occur in 1981. Christ did not return in 1988. The Soviet Union dissolved without Armageddon. Lindsey continued publishing revised frameworks every few years, adjusting the predictions while maintaining the essential structure. The failures did not diminish his influence. They rarely do.

Tim LaHaye and Jerry B. Jenkins's Left Behind series, beginning in 1995, achieved what Lindsey's nonfiction could not: it made dispensationalism feel real by dramatizing it. Eighty million copies sold worldwide. The novels depicted the Rapture as Christians literally vanishing from moving cars, pilotless planes crashing, abandoned clothes scattered across empty seats. They gave the Antichrist a name (Nicolae Carpathia), a nationality (Romanian), and a charming personality. They compressed the theological architecture into a thriller plot that people consumed with the emotional investment normally reserved for reality.

The specific claims of Left Behind diverge from biblical text at every significant point. The "disappearing" Rapture, with its haunting visual of empty clothes: 1 Thessalonians 4:17 says nothing about disappearing clothing; it describes a resurrection sequence. A single world-ruler Antichrist: the word "antichrist" appears only in 1 John and 2 John, never in Revelation, and refers to "many antichrists" already present in John's time, not a future individual. A literal seven-year Tribulation: nowhere stated in Revelation; derived from Darby's reconstruction of Daniel 9:24-27, specifically from a gap he inserted between the 69th and 70th prophetic "week."

Pew Research data from 2022 shows 63% of American evangelicals believing they live in the end times and 92% expecting Jesus' return. [11] Gallup's 2022 survey found that only 20% of Americans believe the Bible is the literal word of God, a record low, down from about 40% in 1980. Even among evangelicals, literalism runs well under 50%. [12] The paradox is clarifying: a majority of evangelicals hold apocalyptic beliefs that a minority of them would derive from a literal reading of the text itself. The beliefs come from Lindsey. From Left Behind. From Scofield's footnotes. From sermon culture. From a 200-year-old interpretive tradition that has been packaged so effectively it has replaced the text it claims to interpret.
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Only the good Boomers die young...

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Lindsey did a bit of damage to the Rapture theory, I think. He gave a specific timeline (ignoring that verse from Christ about no man knowing the day or the hour), then nothing of the 'signs' happened.

The 'Omen' movies were kinda cool, though.
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BigGameBaylorBear said:

Nah fr what happened to his eyebrows LMAO


The truth revealed!

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Sic 'em Bears and Go Birds
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From National Review

Washington, D.C. While addressing an antisemitism symposium hosted by National Review and the Republican Jewish Coalition on Tuesday, Senator Ted Cruz (R., Texas) blasted former Fox News host Tucker Carlson as "the single most dangerous demagogue in this country."


Cruz was unvarnished in his contempt for Carlson, the loudest critic of Israel on the right-wing internet. The senator lamented his "descent" into antisemitism during a fiery speech at the NR-RJC event at the Museum of the Bible.
 
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