Tucker's attempt to normalize Nick Fuentes

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Mothra
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The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

Go look up 'context'.

And for the record, if anyone quoted Hitler's little hatebook, it would be you, and everyone would treat it the same way we treat the rest of your hate speech.


The author of that book had to have been an atheist because a Christian would never even think to compare Jesus's power level to other historic figures. Christians literally believe Jesus is God in human flesh... so the idea anyone could be more powerful than Christ is absurd.

Even as an atheist myself, comparing Jesus with Genghis Kahn is totally bizarre and a pointless provocation.



What's so ironic about this post, is you've repeatedly made fun of people who believe in Christ. There are a number of posts of you making blasphemous statements.

Guess it's only bad when a Jew does it.
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Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:



NOW - Netanyahu: "Jesus Christ has no advantage over Genghis Khan. Because if you are strong enough, ruthless enough, powerful enough, evil will overcome good."

CHRIST IS KING

Serious question - why do you get so upset over what someone from another religion says about Jesus? I am sure many Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, etc. feel similarly. They reject Christ as well.

Netanyahu is lost, like numerous sinners in the world today. Getting angry over someone who doesn't adhere to your beliefs is a very juvenile response to someone's rejection of the Gospel. Do you think you are going to sway them with the angry "Christ is King" retort?

If you are a Christian, we are to be salt and light to a dying world, and to above all, communicate the message of the Gospels to the lost with love - Christ's second greatest commandment - just as He did. Getting angry not only serves no purpose, it is sinful.


Cmon Mothra, you're a smart guy - really think about it. What makes this situation unique?
Sic 'em Bears and Go Birds
Mothra
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BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:



NOW - Netanyahu: "Jesus Christ has no advantage over Genghis Khan. Because if you are strong enough, ruthless enough, powerful enough, evil will overcome good."

CHRIST IS KING

Serious question - why do you get so upset over what someone from another religion says about Jesus? I am sure many Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, etc. feel similarly. They reject Christ as well.

Netanyahu is lost, like numerous sinners in the world today. Getting angry over someone who doesn't adhere to your beliefs is a very juvenile response to someone's rejection of the Gospel. Do you think you are going to sway them with the angry "Christ is King" retort?

If you are a Christian, we are to be salt and light to a dying world, and to above all, communicate the message of the Gospels to the lost with love - Christ's second greatest commandment - just as He did. Getting angry not only serves no purpose, it is sinful.


Cmon Mothra, you're a smart guy - really think about it. What makes this situation unique?

You tell me. Should we expect Netanyahu, a Jew, to feel the same way about Christ as Christians do?
BigGameBaylorBear
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Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:



NOW - Netanyahu: "Jesus Christ has no advantage over Genghis Khan. Because if you are strong enough, ruthless enough, powerful enough, evil will overcome good."

CHRIST IS KING

Serious question - why do you get so upset over what someone from another religion says about Jesus? I am sure many Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, etc. feel similarly. They reject Christ as well.

Netanyahu is lost, like numerous sinners in the world today. Getting angry over someone who doesn't adhere to your beliefs is a very juvenile response to someone's rejection of the Gospel. Do you think you are going to sway them with the angry "Christ is King" retort?

If you are a Christian, we are to be salt and light to a dying world, and to above all, communicate the message of the Gospels to the lost with love - Christ's second greatest commandment - just as He did. Getting angry not only serves no purpose, it is sinful.


Cmon Mothra, you're a smart guy - really think about it. What makes this situation unique?

You tell me. Should we expect Netanyahu, a Jew, to feel the same way about Christ as Christians do?


I would expect our ally to have a bit of couth. Perhaps find a different analogy next time
Sic 'em Bears and Go Birds
Mothra
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BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:



NOW - Netanyahu: "Jesus Christ has no advantage over Genghis Khan. Because if you are strong enough, ruthless enough, powerful enough, evil will overcome good."

CHRIST IS KING

Serious question - why do you get so upset over what someone from another religion says about Jesus? I am sure many Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, etc. feel similarly. They reject Christ as well.

Netanyahu is lost, like numerous sinners in the world today. Getting angry over someone who doesn't adhere to your beliefs is a very juvenile response to someone's rejection of the Gospel. Do you think you are going to sway them with the angry "Christ is King" retort?

If you are a Christian, we are to be salt and light to a dying world, and to above all, communicate the message of the Gospels to the lost with love - Christ's second greatest commandment - just as He did. Getting angry not only serves no purpose, it is sinful.


Cmon Mothra, you're a smart guy - really think about it. What makes this situation unique?

You tell me. Should we expect Netanyahu, a Jew, to feel the same way about Christ as Christians do?


I would expect our ally to have a bit of couth. Perhaps find a different analogy next time

LOL. Couth. Come on, bud. You hate the guy. We know nothing he could say would sway you. And so you nitpick, finding something to be mad and angry about.

As a self-professed Christian, this is a very weird hill for you to die on.
Realitybites
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whiterock said:


Stop the false dilemma. Theology doesn't win wars. Soldiers do.



Large chunks of the Old Testament make the case that it is theology that actually wins wars and apostasy loses them.
BigGameBaylorBear
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Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:



NOW - Netanyahu: "Jesus Christ has no advantage over Genghis Khan. Because if you are strong enough, ruthless enough, powerful enough, evil will overcome good."

CHRIST IS KING

Serious question - why do you get so upset over what someone from another religion says about Jesus? I am sure many Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, etc. feel similarly. They reject Christ as well.

Netanyahu is lost, like numerous sinners in the world today. Getting angry over someone who doesn't adhere to your beliefs is a very juvenile response to someone's rejection of the Gospel. Do you think you are going to sway them with the angry "Christ is King" retort?

If you are a Christian, we are to be salt and light to a dying world, and to above all, communicate the message of the Gospels to the lost with love - Christ's second greatest commandment - just as He did. Getting angry not only serves no purpose, it is sinful.


Cmon Mothra, you're a smart guy - really think about it. What makes this situation unique?

You tell me. Should we expect Netanyahu, a Jew, to feel the same way about Christ as Christians do?


I would expect our ally to have a bit of couth. Perhaps find a different analogy next time

LOL. Couth. Come on, bud. You hate the guy. We know nothing he could say would sway you. And so you nitpick, finding something to be mad and angry about.

As a self-professed Christian, this is a very weird hill for you to die on.


Yup I woke up one day and decided to dislike Netanyahu for absolutely no reason at all

He would sway me if he declared Christ is Lord
Sic 'em Bears and Go Birds
The_barBEARian
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Mothra said:

The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

Go look up 'context'.

And for the record, if anyone quoted Hitler's little hatebook, it would be you, and everyone would treat it the same way we treat the rest of your hate speech.


The author of that book had to have been an atheist because a Christian would never even think to compare Jesus's power level to other historic figures. Christians literally believe Jesus is God in human flesh... so the idea anyone could be more powerful than Christ is absurd.

Even as an atheist myself, comparing Jesus with Genghis Kahn is totally bizarre and a pointless provocation.



What's so ironic about this post, is you've repeatedly made fun of people who believe in Christ. There are a number of posts of you making blasphemous statements.

Guess it's only bad when a Jew does it.


Your "greatest ally" is Sodom and Gomorrah.

Even as an atheist, I have no desire to die for these degenerates... its even more puzzling that Christians are willing to die for them.
Mothra
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The_barBEARian said:

Mothra said:

The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

Go look up 'context'.

And for the record, if anyone quoted Hitler's little hatebook, it would be you, and everyone would treat it the same way we treat the rest of your hate speech.


The author of that book had to have been an atheist because a Christian would never even think to compare Jesus's power level to other historic figures. Christians literally believe Jesus is God in human flesh... so the idea anyone could be more powerful than Christ is absurd.

Even as an atheist myself, comparing Jesus with Genghis Kahn is totally bizarre and a pointless provocation.



What's so ironic about this post, is you've repeatedly made fun of people who believe in Christ. There are a number of posts of you making blasphemous statements.

Guess it's only bad when a Jew does it.


Your "greatest ally" is Sodom and Gomorrah.

Even as an atheist, I have no desire to die for these degenerates... its even more puzzling that Christians are willing to die for them.

Another inane and irrelevant post, that doesn't address what I stated.

I get it, you have no defense for your blasphemy and hypocrisy, and believe it's only wrong when Jews engage in it.
Mothra
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BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:



NOW - Netanyahu: "Jesus Christ has no advantage over Genghis Khan. Because if you are strong enough, ruthless enough, powerful enough, evil will overcome good."

CHRIST IS KING

Serious question - why do you get so upset over what someone from another religion says about Jesus? I am sure many Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, etc. feel similarly. They reject Christ as well.

Netanyahu is lost, like numerous sinners in the world today. Getting angry over someone who doesn't adhere to your beliefs is a very juvenile response to someone's rejection of the Gospel. Do you think you are going to sway them with the angry "Christ is King" retort?

If you are a Christian, we are to be salt and light to a dying world, and to above all, communicate the message of the Gospels to the lost with love - Christ's second greatest commandment - just as He did. Getting angry not only serves no purpose, it is sinful.


Cmon Mothra, you're a smart guy - really think about it. What makes this situation unique?

You tell me. Should we expect Netanyahu, a Jew, to feel the same way about Christ as Christians do?


I would expect our ally to have a bit of couth. Perhaps find a different analogy next time

LOL. Couth. Come on, bud. You hate the guy. We know nothing he could say would sway you. And so you nitpick, finding something to be mad and angry about.

As a self-professed Christian, this is a very weird hill for you to die on.


Yup I woke up one day and decided to dislike Netanyahu for absolutely no reason at all

He would sway me if he declared Christ is Lord

Irrelevant.
whiterock
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The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

Go look up 'context'.

And for the record, if anyone quoted Hitler's little hatebook, it would be you, and everyone would treat it the same way we treat the rest of your hate speech.


The author of that book had to have been an atheist because a Christian would never even think to compare Jesus's power level to other historic figures. Christians literally believe Jesus is God in human flesh... so the idea anyone could be more powerful than Christ is absurd.

Even as an atheist myself, comparing Jesus with Genghis Kahn is totally bizarre and a pointless provocation.



I agree. Christians should stop the patently absurd suggestion that Jesus would lead a human army to defeat anyone. Not since his crucifixion has such ever happened. Certainly did not engage in combat to help the Crusaders, or the Copts, or the Syrian Christians, or the Byzantine, or……

You have fight your own damned battles with whatever talents and inspiration (divinely inspired or not) at your disposal. Your efforts will be weighed in full on judgment day. I would plan on Jesus never asking whether or not you ever won a battle or a war.
whiterock
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Realitybites said:

whiterock said:


Stop the false dilemma. Theology doesn't win wars. Soldiers do.



Large chunks of the Old Testament make the case that it is theology that actually wins wars and apostasy loses them.

You obviously slept thru World History class.

Platitudes are nothing more than a virtue posture. If that's all you got for a battle plan, better prepare your will.
whiterock
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Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:



NOW - Netanyahu: "Jesus Christ has no advantage over Genghis Khan. Because if you are strong enough, ruthless enough, powerful enough, evil will overcome good."

CHRIST IS KING

Serious question - why do you get so upset over what someone from another religion says about Jesus? I am sure many Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, etc. feel similarly. They reject Christ as well.

Netanyahu is lost, like numerous sinners in the world today. Getting angry over someone who doesn't adhere to your beliefs is a very juvenile response to someone's rejection of the Gospel. Do you think you are going to sway them with the angry "Christ is King" retort?

If you are a Christian, we are to be salt and light to a dying world, and to above all, communicate the message of the Gospels to the lost with love - Christ's second greatest commandment - just as He did. Getting angry not only serves no purpose, it is sinful.


Cmon Mothra, you're a smart guy - really think about it. What makes this situation unique?

You tell me. Should we expect Netanyahu, a Jew, to feel the same way about Christ as Christians do?


I would expect our ally to have a bit of couth. Perhaps find a different analogy next time

LOL. Couth. Come on, bud. You hate the guy. We know nothing he could say would sway you. And so you nitpick, finding something to be mad and angry about.

As a self-professed Christian, this is a very weird hill for you to die on.

My wife tells me it is important to be able to agree to disagree on some things to make the relationship work. Diplomacy is a lot like that, I suspect.


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Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:



NOW - Netanyahu: "Jesus Christ has no advantage over Genghis Khan. Because if you are strong enough, ruthless enough, powerful enough, evil will overcome good."

CHRIST IS KING

Serious question - why do you get so upset over what someone from another religion says about Jesus? I am sure many Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, etc. feel similarly. They reject Christ as well.

Netanyahu is lost, like numerous sinners in the world today. Getting angry over someone who doesn't adhere to your beliefs is a very juvenile response to someone's rejection of the Gospel. Do you think you are going to sway them with the angry "Christ is King" retort?

If you are a Christian, we are to be salt and light to a dying world, and to above all, communicate the message of the Gospels to the lost with love - Christ's second greatest commandment - just as He did. Getting angry not only serves no purpose, it is sinful.


You should care because your ability to peacefully coexist with someone is largely shaped on what you believe about each other. Trust, ultimately, is really about predictability.

In order to predict someone's behavior, you have to understand them.

Fun fact:

Islam recognizes the virgin birth, recognizes Mary's role in the birth of Jesus, recognizes Jesus as Messiah, and recognizes the validity of his miracles, including the raising of the dead.

In Judaism, you can be an atheist and a member in good standing within your synagogue. If, however, you believe Jesus is Messiah, you are deemed an apostate. There is a whole lot more, you can research.
whiterock
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DallasBear9902 said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:



NOW - Netanyahu: "Jesus Christ has no advantage over Genghis Khan. Because if you are strong enough, ruthless enough, powerful enough, evil will overcome good."

CHRIST IS KING

Serious question - why do you get so upset over what someone from another religion says about Jesus? I am sure many Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, etc. feel similarly. They reject Christ as well.

Netanyahu is lost, like numerous sinners in the world today. Getting angry over someone who doesn't adhere to your beliefs is a very juvenile response to someone's rejection of the Gospel. Do you think you are going to sway them with the angry "Christ is King" retort?

If you are a Christian, we are to be salt and light to a dying world, and to above all, communicate the message of the Gospels to the lost with love - Christ's second greatest commandment - just as He did. Getting angry not only serves no purpose, it is sinful.


You should care because your ability to peacefully coexist with someone is largely shaped on what you believe about each other. Trust, ultimately, is really about predictability.

In order to predict someone's behavior, you have to understand them.

Fun fact:

Islam recognizes the virgin birth, recognizes Mary's role in the birth of Jesus, recognizes Jesus as Messiah, and recognizes the validity of his miracles, including the raising of the dead.

In Judaism, you can be an atheist and a member in good standing within your synagogue. If, however, you believe Jesus is Messiah, you are deemed an apostate. There is a whole lot more, you can research.

Unlike Christians, Jews are a distinct ethnic group.
The_barBEARian
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whiterock said:

DallasBear9902 said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:



NOW - Netanyahu: "Jesus Christ has no advantage over Genghis Khan. Because if you are strong enough, ruthless enough, powerful enough, evil will overcome good."

CHRIST IS KING

Serious question - why do you get so upset over what someone from another religion says about Jesus? I am sure many Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, etc. feel similarly. They reject Christ as well.

Netanyahu is lost, like numerous sinners in the world today. Getting angry over someone who doesn't adhere to your beliefs is a very juvenile response to someone's rejection of the Gospel. Do you think you are going to sway them with the angry "Christ is King" retort?

If you are a Christian, we are to be salt and light to a dying world, and to above all, communicate the message of the Gospels to the lost with love - Christ's second greatest commandment - just as He did. Getting angry not only serves no purpose, it is sinful.


You should care because your ability to peacefully coexist with someone is largely shaped on what you believe about each other. Trust, ultimately, is really about predictability.

In order to predict someone's behavior, you have to understand them.

Fun fact:

Islam recognizes the virgin birth, recognizes Mary's role in the birth of Jesus, recognizes Jesus as Messiah, and recognizes the validity of his miracles, including the raising of the dead.

In Judaism, you can be an atheist and a member in good standing within your synagogue. If, however, you believe Jesus is Messiah, you are deemed an apostate. There is a whole lot more, you can research.

Unlike Christians, Jews are a distinct ethnic group.


Perfect! Take away their 505(c)(3) exemptions and make their synagogues pay taxes like any other ethnic club.
Oldbear83
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" Islam recognizes the virgin birth, recognizes Mary's role in the birth of Jesus, recognizes Jesus as Messiah, and recognizes the validity of his miracles, including the raising of the dead."

Not exactly. Islam for example rejects Christ's role as King of the World to come, who will rule with a rod of iron, and absolutely rejects Salvation from God because of Christ's atonement.

And Islam has "Isa" submit to Mohammed, which is blasphemy.

Mothra
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DallasBear9902 said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:



NOW - Netanyahu: "Jesus Christ has no advantage over Genghis Khan. Because if you are strong enough, ruthless enough, powerful enough, evil will overcome good."

CHRIST IS KING

Serious question - why do you get so upset over what someone from another religion says about Jesus? I am sure many Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, etc. feel similarly. They reject Christ as well.

Netanyahu is lost, like numerous sinners in the world today. Getting angry over someone who doesn't adhere to your beliefs is a very juvenile response to someone's rejection of the Gospel. Do you think you are going to sway them with the angry "Christ is King" retort?

If you are a Christian, we are to be salt and light to a dying world, and to above all, communicate the message of the Gospels to the lost with love - Christ's second greatest commandment - just as He did. Getting angry not only serves no purpose, it is sinful.


You should care because your ability to peacefully coexist with someone is largely shaped on what you believe about each other. Trust, ultimately, is really about predictability.

In order to predict someone's behavior, you have to understand them.

Fun fact:

Islam recognizes the virgin birth, recognizes Mary's role in the birth of Jesus, recognizes Jesus as Messiah, and recognizes the validity of his miracles, including the raising of the dead.

In Judaism, you can be an atheist and a member in good standing within your synagogue. If, however, you believe Jesus is Messiah, you are deemed an apostate. There is a whole lot more, you can research.

Gotta say, you Groypers and Islamists do make for strange bedfellows. I guess it is the "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" mindset, marked by a shared hatred of the Jews.

The problem is, one would have to completely ignore that fact that the vast majority of terrorism in the world today is committed by Muslims, as well as an ideology that literally calls for the murder of infidels. You think Judaism is bad, try living in a society that institutes Sharia law. You'd be marked for death as a Christian.

It takes a gross misunderstanding of Islam to believe that it is a religion that is at all similar to Christianity. They most definitely do not believe in the Christ of the Holy Bible.

As for Netanyahu, did you interpret something he said to mean he can't live peacefully with Christians? I certainly didn't. Moreover, as pointed out above, it is the Islamists that have difficulty coexisting peacefully. Don't believe me, go live in some of the predominantly Muslim countries. Even those with democratic ideals, like Turkey, regularly discriminate and abuse Christians. It is the most violent religion in the world, and there's not a close second.

I'd suggest you stop watching Tucker and get some other news sources.
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Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

Mothra said:

The_barBEARian said:

Mothra said:

Oldbear83 said:

Is 'Haaretz' on the same level as The View?

I don't follow nutball media.

I think he believes pointing out instances of bad conduct somehow makes his generalizations and stereotypes true.


How many "instances" do you need before it becomes a pattern of behavior?

100? 1000? 10000? 1000000?

I have provided more specific examples of terrorism by the IDF than you did of the Iranians.

Your justification for the Iran war was entirely based on generalizations and vague innuendo.

No, you haven't. You post a handful of instances of bad conduct, and then try to generalize an entire group is bad or evil.

Should all white males be painted by the actions of a few white males? School shooters, for instance, are by and large white males. Does that mean all white males are evil? Of course not.

It's ridiculous and juvenile reasoning that, quite frankly, you should have grown out of long ago.

Lets do a deep dive on that and use some per capita there too. When you say school shooters do you mean any shooting near a school? I think you may be surprised to know that black people also do a lot of shooting near schools. On a per capita basis lately it seems that trans people are overwhelmingly leading in the school shooting category.


I mean school shooters, like I said. You really don't know what that term means?

Those are the white dudes who walk into schools and shoot them up.

By and large white males. Should we generalize referring white males because we compromise the vast majority of school shooters?

So only white dudes do that? I can think of 3 black kids off the top of my head in DFW that have done that. 1 in Arlingtron and 2 at the same school in Wilmer Hucthins.


Are you reading what I wrote? Do you know what the phrase, "by and large" means?

There has been a real epidemic of trans shooters recently as well.
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Mothra said:

DallasBear9902 said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:



NOW - Netanyahu: "Jesus Christ has no advantage over Genghis Khan. Because if you are strong enough, ruthless enough, powerful enough, evil will overcome good."

CHRIST IS KING

Serious question - why do you get so upset over what someone from another religion says about Jesus? I am sure many Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, etc. feel similarly. They reject Christ as well.

Netanyahu is lost, like numerous sinners in the world today. Getting angry over someone who doesn't adhere to your beliefs is a very juvenile response to someone's rejection of the Gospel. Do you think you are going to sway them with the angry "Christ is King" retort?

If you are a Christian, we are to be salt and light to a dying world, and to above all, communicate the message of the Gospels to the lost with love - Christ's second greatest commandment - just as He did. Getting angry not only serves no purpose, it is sinful.


You should care because your ability to peacefully coexist with someone is largely shaped on what you believe about each other. Trust, ultimately, is really about predictability.

In order to predict someone's behavior, you have to understand them.

Fun fact:

Islam recognizes the virgin birth, recognizes Mary's role in the birth of Jesus, recognizes Jesus as Messiah, and recognizes the validity of his miracles, including the raising of the dead.

In Judaism, you can be an atheist and a member in good standing within your synagogue. If, however, you believe Jesus is Messiah, you are deemed an apostate. There is a whole lot more, you can research.

Gotta say, you Groypers and Islamists do make for strange bedfellows. I guess it is the "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" mindset, marked by a shared hatred of the Jews.

The problem is, one would have to completely ignore that fact that the vast majority of terrorism in the world today is committed by Muslims, as well as an ideology that literally calls for the murder of infidels. You think Judaism is bad, try living in a society that institutes Sharia law. You'd be marked for death as a Christian.

It takes a gross misunderstanding of Islam to believe that it is a religion that is at all similar to Christianity. They most definitely do not believe in the Christ of the Holy Bible.

As for Netanyahu, did you interpret something he said to mean he can't live peacefully with Christians? I certainly didn't. Moreover, as pointed out above, it is the Islamists that have difficulty coexisting peacefully. Don't believe me, go live in some of the predominantly Muslim countries. Even those with democratic ideals, like Turkey, regularly discriminate and abuse Christians. It is the most violent religion in the world, and there's not a close second.

I'd suggest you stop watching Tucker and get some other news sources.

WTH? How is this in any way responsive to my post? Are you on crack?

You really should study the people who you believe are your enemy. They may well in fact be that! But your ignorance is breathtaking for a purportedly educated man. And you are using words that you clearly don't understand.

Without looking it up, do you know who is defined as infidel under sharia? Do you not find it odd that Christians existed for 500+ years under sharia law in the Ottoman caliphate and it isn't until the late 19th century that the genocide starts? Do you know the meaning of the word dhimmi? Do you not find it odd that Catholics and Eastern Orthodox have had an unbroken presence in Gaza and the West Bank despite Palestinian control of those areas and their centuries-old churches were not damaged until Israel's most recent military operations? Do you ever wonder how it is possible that Chaldeans existed in Iraq (just outside of the Arabian peninsula!) for 2000 years after St. Thomas the apostle introduced Christianity to them? Chaldeans even managed to exist under Saddam H., and it isn't until the 2003 invasion of Iraq that the Chaldeans seem to have finally been broken for good in Iraq (the Chaldean diaspora has mostly resettled in the Detroit and San Diego areas--very interesting people, in particular the women, if you ever get a chance to be around them).

Do you not find the existence of Christians in Hezbollah-controlled/influenced Lebanon to be hard to square with your assertions? Israel seems to be preparing to go into Lebanon. Will be very interesting to watch what happens to those Christians after Israel takes over southern Lebanon.

These facts just doesn't square with your ignorant view of the world. Yes, much terrorism has been committed by Islamic extremists, but there is tons of history that is worth understanding if you have even the slightest bit of curiosity.

I know, you need the world broken down into good guys and bad guys and there is no room for critical thought, but come on. At least try to be an informed person and understand the people you think you are in a civilizational battle with. I've barely scratched the surface here.

To be absolutely clear since you seem to want to argue in bad faith, I am not suggesting that I want to live under sharia law. I don't want to pay the jizya tax. I sure as heck do not want my Christian faith relegated to private spaces only, nor do I want to be a second-class citizen under sharia. But your ignorance is just way out there.

Mothra
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DallasBear9902 said:

Mothra said:

DallasBear9902 said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:



NOW - Netanyahu: "Jesus Christ has no advantage over Genghis Khan. Because if you are strong enough, ruthless enough, powerful enough, evil will overcome good."

CHRIST IS KING

Serious question - why do you get so upset over what someone from another religion says about Jesus? I am sure many Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, etc. feel similarly. They reject Christ as well.

Netanyahu is lost, like numerous sinners in the world today. Getting angry over someone who doesn't adhere to your beliefs is a very juvenile response to someone's rejection of the Gospel. Do you think you are going to sway them with the angry "Christ is King" retort?

If you are a Christian, we are to be salt and light to a dying world, and to above all, communicate the message of the Gospels to the lost with love - Christ's second greatest commandment - just as He did. Getting angry not only serves no purpose, it is sinful.


You should care because your ability to peacefully coexist with someone is largely shaped on what you believe about each other. Trust, ultimately, is really about predictability.

In order to predict someone's behavior, you have to understand them.

Fun fact:

Islam recognizes the virgin birth, recognizes Mary's role in the birth of Jesus, recognizes Jesus as Messiah, and recognizes the validity of his miracles, including the raising of the dead.

In Judaism, you can be an atheist and a member in good standing within your synagogue. If, however, you believe Jesus is Messiah, you are deemed an apostate. There is a whole lot more, you can research.

Gotta say, you Groypers and Islamists do make for strange bedfellows. I guess it is the "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" mindset, marked by a shared hatred of the Jews.

The problem is, one would have to completely ignore that fact that the vast majority of terrorism in the world today is committed by Muslims, as well as an ideology that literally calls for the murder of infidels. You think Judaism is bad, try living in a society that institutes Sharia law. You'd be marked for death as a Christian.

It takes a gross misunderstanding of Islam to believe that it is a religion that is at all similar to Christianity. They most definitely do not believe in the Christ of the Holy Bible.

As for Netanyahu, did you interpret something he said to mean he can't live peacefully with Christians? I certainly didn't. Moreover, as pointed out above, it is the Islamists that have difficulty coexisting peacefully. Don't believe me, go live in some of the predominantly Muslim countries. Even those with democratic ideals, like Turkey, regularly discriminate and abuse Christians. It is the most violent religion in the world, and there's not a close second.

I'd suggest you stop watching Tucker and get some other news sources.

WTH? How is this in any way responsive to my post? Are you on crack?

You really should study the people who you believe are your enemy. They may well in fact be that! But your ignorance is breathtaking for a purportedly educated man. And you are using words that you clearly don't understand.

Without looking it up, do you know who is defined as infidel under sharia? Do you not find it odd that Christians existed for 500+ years under sharia law in the Ottoman caliphate and it isn't until the late 19th century that the genocide starts? Do you know the meaning of the word dhimmi? Do you not find it odd that Catholics and Eastern Orthodox have had an unbroken presence in Gaza and the West Bank despite Palestinian control of those areas and their centuries-old churches were not damaged until Israel's most recent military operations? Do you ever wonder how it is possible that Chaldeans existed in Iraq (just outside of the Arabian peninsula!) for 2000 years after St. Thomas the apostle introduced Christianity to them? Chaldeans even managed to exist under Saddam H., and it isn't until the 2003 invasion of Iraq that the Chaldeans seem to have finally been broken for good in Iraq (the Chaldean diaspora has mostly resettled in the Detroit and San Diego areas--very interesting people, in particular the women, if you ever get a chance to be around them).

Do you not find the existence of Christians in Hezbollah-controlled/influenced Lebanon to be hard to square with your assertions? Israel seems to be preparing to go into Lebanon. Will be very interesting to watch what happens to those Christians after Israel takes over southern Lebanon.

These facts just doesn't square with your ignorant view of the world. Yes, much terrorism has been committed by Islamic extremists, but there is tons of history that is worth understanding if you have even the slightest bit of curiosity.

I know, you need the world broken down into good guys and bad guys and there is no room for critical thought, but come on. At least try to be an informed person and understand the people you think you are in a civilizational battle with. I've barely scratched the surface here.

To be absolutely clear since you seem to want to argue in bad faith, I am not suggesting that I want to live under sharia law. I don't want to pay the jizya tax. I sure as heck do not want my Christian faith relegated to private spaces only, nor do I want to be a second-class citizen under sharia. But your ignorance is just way out there.

I am curious. Can you tell me how many Christians have died or been persecuted for their faith at the hands of Islamists last year?

I know, so let me help you out. According to reports based on data from late 2024 to late 2025 from various organizations that monitor these things, roughly 4,849 to 4,850 Christians were killed for their faith in 2025. Approximately 93% of the recorded deaths (4,491) occurred in sub-Saharan Africa, with the Islamists in Nigeria accounting for the vast majority of these deaths. And the most dangerous place in the world for Christians are all Muslim countries, including Somalia, Yemen, Sudan, and Eritrea.

With respect to Christians who experienced persecution, over 340 million Christians worldwide experience high to extreme levels of discrimination and persecution because of their faith. And the vast majority of those people live in Muslim countries.

Now, let's compare that to Christians who have died or been persecuted for their faith at the hands of followers of Judaism last year. Can you tell me how many have died?

I can. Zero. Zero reported deaths at the hands of Jews. And while there have been a handful of reported attacks by Jewish extremists (less than a dozen), that is about the extent of the reported persecution.

Now, can you tell me what religious group has been the largest perpetrator of terrorism the last 40 years? Again, I got ya. Since 1979, Islamist groups carried out roughly 18.8% of global attacks (19792019), and around 39% of total deaths from terrorism. This of course does not include state-sponsored terrorism, like that perpetrated by Iran. If we add that to the mix, the number is even higher.

Jewish groups responsible for terrorism? The number is so negligible it doesn't even register as a fraction of a percentage.

Look, I get it. You and the Muslims have a common enemy. But trying to white wash their long history of violence against Christians isn't an argument that has much credibility, and make you look like an imbecile. When 28% of Muslims believe apostasy (leaving Islam) should be punished by death, it's really difficult to argue that the Muslims are peaceful and want to coexist. There is a reason that the ME and Africa are the most dangerous and violent places in the world today.

When you look at the numbers, trying to argue that it is easier for Christians to coexist with Muslims than Jews is just total dumbassery. I think your Jew hate has caused such brain rot that you've completely lost your marbles. No reasonable person would consider making such arguments.
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Look up the Dahiya Doctrine and then rerun your death toll numbers.
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BigGameBaylorBear said:

whiterock said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:



NOW - Netanyahu: "Jesus Christ has no advantage over Genghis Khan. Because if you are strong enough, ruthless enough, powerful enough, evil will overcome good."

CHRIST IS KING

he's just speaking cold hard reality.

Jesus had to die to rise again. Same for all those cities that faced The Khan. Most of them literally died. Had to rise again.

Jesus is not going to pick up an AR for you. He's not going to fly an F-35 for you. You gotta do that stuff yourself. And if you don't do it well, guys who talk funny are going to ram the barrel of an AK-47 up your wife's ass. Just look at 9/11, or the Hamas raid into Israel on October 7th. So many examples in history where evil triumphed over good.



Unbelievable, your "ally" blasphemies our God and you find a way to justify it?

What if I said Moses has no advantage over Genghis Khan? Or David… see how ridiculous that sounds?

Moses splits the Red Sea and David kills Goliath, both in the name of God. But God himself has no advantage over Genghis Khan? Just unbelievable.

You are such a drama queen weenie. Making a big histrionic show over a quote you don't even understand.

I can't believe whiterock has the patience to even try and discuss with you

This is why I, like most people apparently, just ignore your ilk. You minimize yourselves.
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Mothra said:



I'd suggest you stop watching Tucker and get some other news sources.


Ok. So what are your thoughts about the Chabad rabbis who teach in full accordance with the Tanya that the goyim have animal souls and only Jews have Godly ones?

That's going straight to the source.

Are you willing to condemn Jewish ISIS and their Jewish supremacy?

How about typing "Chabad Lubavitch is evil and a servant of Satan" in a post. Willing to do that? Yes or no?
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DallasBear9902 said:

Look up the Dahiya Doctrine and then rerun your death toll numbers.

So your position is that is violence based on religion?

Interesting.

Also interesting that you just refuse to acknowledge the violence committed in the name of Islam. Purposeful ignorance.
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Realitybites said:

Mothra said:



I'd suggest you stop watching Tucker and get some other news sources.


Ok. So what are your thoughts about the Chabad rabbis who teach in full accordance with the Tanya that the goyim have animal souls and only Jews have Godly ones?

That's going straight to the source.

Are you willing to condemn Jewish ISIS and their Jewish supremacy?

How about typing "Chabad Lubavitch is evil and a servant of Satan" in a post. Willing to do that? Yes or e no?

The reason I am surprised you are 40-something is because of questions like these. You make such silly assumptions and read so much into comments. I recall you believing that I thought there was another pathway to salvation simply because I rejected replacement theory. Your reasoning abilities at times reminds me of my teenage sons, though that is probably not giving them enough credit.

To answer your questions, yes, I condemn all of the hateful beliefs and acts you describe in your post. As I've tried to explain to you before, Jews are lost and sinful people. In that sense, they're no different from your Muslim or Atheist.

Where they are different is in the fact that God has a covenant with them, and a plan to ultimately save them.
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Mothra said:

DallasBear9902 said:

Look up the Dahiya Doctrine and then rerun your death toll numbers.

So your position is that is violence based on religion?

Interesting.

Also interesting that you just refuse to acknowledge the violence committed in the name of Islam. Purposeful ignorance.


Let's try to build toward something here:

What is your definition of terrorism?
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Mothra said:


To answer your questions, yes, I condemn all of the hateful beliefs and acts you describe in your post.


So...no. Ok.
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Tucker shades the truth yet again, this time about Churchill

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Osodecentx said:

Tucker shades the truth yet again, this time about Churchill




Sorry Boomer.

One need only look at the state of western Europe today and it is abundantly clear Winston Churchill was no hero.
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Realitybites said:

Mothra said:


To answer your questions, yes, I condemn all of the hateful beliefs and acts you describe in your post.


So...no. Ok.


I actually said just the opposite but ok little buddy.
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DallasBear9902 said:

Mothra said:

DallasBear9902 said:

Look up the Dahiya Doctrine and then rerun your death toll numbers.

So your position is that is violence based on religion?

Interesting.

Also interesting that you just refuse to acknowledge the violence committed in the name of Islam. Purposeful ignorance.


Let's try to build toward something here:

What is your definition of terrorism?


I'm not sure there's anything to build on giving your shoddy reasoning, but it probably would be a more productive conversation if you explained your definition, since it seems to vary from what most reasonable people would agree, constitutes terrorism, especially religious terrorism
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The_barBEARian said:

Osodecentx said:

Tucker shades the truth yet again, this time about Churchill




Sorry Boomer.


Never thought I'd see you making fun of Tucker. He can't help it he's a boomer.
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Mothra said:

DallasBear9902 said:

Mothra said:

DallasBear9902 said:

Look up the Dahiya Doctrine and then rerun your death toll numbers.

So your position is that is violence based on religion?

Interesting.

Also interesting that you just refuse to acknowledge the violence committed in the name of Islam. Purposeful ignorance.


Let's try to build toward something here:

What is your definition of terrorism?


I'm not sure there's anything to build on giving your shoddy reasoning, but it probably would be a more productive conversation if you explained your definition, since it seems to vary from what most reasonable people would agree, constitutes terrorism, especially religious terrorism


LOL.

Try this one, let me know if you disagree: terrorism is the unlawful use of violence or the threat of violence against civilians for political purposes.

Anything you disagree with there?
 
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