Tucker's attempt to normalize Nick Fuentes

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muddybrazos
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Realitybites said:

Mothra said:


But do events that happened hundreds of years ago mean that Christians today hate Muslims and Jews or want them dead?

Are Muslims and Jews today justified in assuming that modern Christians share the motives of people who lived nearly a thousand years ago?

Can we reasonably claim that present-day Christians should be judged by those events - or that they secretly support that kind of violence now?

Of course not.

You can't take isolated events from centuries ago, apply them to an entire group, and pretend that explains how millions of people think today. That isn't history - it's just using the past to push a narrative in the present.


You cannot divorce history from the present.

The Talmud still teaches what it taught then.

As you well know, the Crusades (with the exception of the fourth) were defensive wars in response to jihad. Your willingness to draw a moral equivalence between the Crusades and Islamic & Jewish terrorism shows how far down the road of Israel worship you have traveled.

It's just that modern Jews have found it more cost effective to fund AIPAC than take up arms and aid an invading army.

DEUST VULT! We need a modern day crusade to clear out the invaders from Europe. The modern jewish funded NGOs are just like they were back in Spain holding open the gates of Toledo. History just keeps rhyming.
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Realitybites said:

Mothra said:


But do events that happened hundreds of years ago mean that Christians today hate Muslims and Jews or want them dead?

Are Muslims and Jews today justified in assuming that modern Christians share the motives of people who lived nearly a thousand years ago?

Can we reasonably claim that present-day Christians should be judged by those events - or that they secretly support that kind of violence now?

Of course not.

You can't take isolated events from centuries ago, apply them to an entire group, and pretend that explains how millions of people think today. That isn't history - it's just using the past to push a narrative in the present.


You cannot divorce history from the present.

The Talmud still teaches what it taught then.

As you well know, the Crusades (with the exception of the fourth) were defensive wars in response to jihad. Your willingness to draw a moral equivalence between the Crusades and Islamic & Jewish terrorism shows how far down the road of Israel worship you have traveled.

It's just that modern Jews have found it more cost effective to fund AIPAC than take up arms and aid an invading army.

What the Talmud teaches and what its accusers claim are very different things.

As Sen. Graham rather foolishly admitted, the state of Israel is there to do our dirty work. If it ceased to exist, the US would just send American boys and girls into harm's way unless and until the voters put a stop to it. So we can either blame the real masters of war, or we can be thankful for our loyal little Ulster in the Middle East.
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Realitybites
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"For the apostates let there be no hope
and may the kingdom of arrogance be uprooted speedily in our days
May the Nazarenes [Christians] and heretics perish in an instant
May they be eraased from the Book of Life and not be inscribed with the righteous"

- Jewish prayer

If you skipped the video above, go watch it now.
Mothra
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Realitybites said:

Mothra said:


But do events that happened hundreds of years ago mean that Christians today hate Muslims and Jews or want them dead?

Are Muslims and Jews today justified in assuming that modern Christians share the motives of people who lived nearly a thousand years ago?

Can we reasonably claim that present-day Christians should be judged by those events - or that they secretly support that kind of violence now?

Of course not.

You can't take isolated events from centuries ago, apply them to an entire group, and pretend that explains how millions of people think today. That isn't history - it's just using the past to push a narrative in the present.


You cannot divorce history from the present.

The Talmud still teaches what it taught then.

As you well know, the Crusades (with the exception of the fourth) were defensive wars in response to jihad. Your willingness to draw a moral equivalence between the Crusades and Islamic & Jewish terrorism shows how far down the road of Israel worship you have traveled.

It's just that modern Jews have found it more cost effective to fund AIPAC than take up arms and aid an invading army.

Of course history matters. But you don't get to freeze a group in time and pretend nothing has changed in hundreds or thousands of years. If you apply that standard honestly, then every group - Christians included - would be permanently defined by the worst things done in their past. You clearly don't believe that, because you immediately try to excuse and cherry pick the Crusades as merely "defensive" in nature (as if the slaughter of women and children is somehow defensive) - except for the sacking of Constantinople of course, from which Christians should get a pass, in your shoddy reasoning.

As for the Talmud, you're treating a large, complex body of writingfull of debates and different viewpointsas if it speaks with one voice. That's like pulling lines out of Leviticus and claiming that it somehow defines all Christians today.

And more to the point, if your claim is that Jews have some ongoing, built-in hostility, where is the evidence of that today? Jews are not out slaughtering Christians in the modern world. There's no ongoing pattern that supports what you're trying to argue. You're projecting ancient conflicts onto people living now, which if of course indicative of your antisemitism.
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Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

Mothra said:


But do events that happened hundreds of years ago mean that Christians today hate Muslims and Jews or want them dead?

Are Muslims and Jews today justified in assuming that modern Christians share the motives of people who lived nearly a thousand years ago?

Can we reasonably claim that present-day Christians should be judged by those events - or that they secretly support that kind of violence now?

Of course not.

You can't take isolated events from centuries ago, apply them to an entire group, and pretend that explains how millions of people think today. That isn't history - it's just using the past to push a narrative in the present.


You cannot divorce history from the present.

The Talmud still teaches what it taught then.

As you well know, the Crusades (with the exception of the fourth) were defensive wars in response to jihad. Your willingness to draw a moral equivalence between the Crusades and Islamic & Jewish terrorism shows how far down the road of Israel worship you have traveled.

It's just that modern Jews have found it more cost effective to fund AIPAC than take up arms and aid an invading army.

Of course history matters. But you don't get to freeze a group in time and pretend nothing has changed in hundreds or thousands of years. If you apply that standard honestly, then every group - Christians included - would be permanently defined by the worst things done in their past. You clearly don't believe that, because you immediately try to excuse and cherry pick the Crusades as merely "defensive" in nature (as if the slaughter of women and children is somehow defensive) - except for the sacking of Constantinople of course, from which Christians should get a pass, in your shoddy reasoning.

As for the Talmud, you're treating a large, complex body of writingfull of debates and different viewpointsas if it speaks with one voice. That's like pulling lines out of Leviticus and claiming that it somehow defines all Christians today.

And more to the point, if your claim is that Jews have some ongoing, built-in hostility, where is the evidence of that today? Jews are not out slaughtering Christians in the modern world. There's no ongoing pattern that supports what you're trying to argue. You're projecting ancient conflicts onto people living now, which if of course indicative of your antisemitism.


Jews are slaughtering Christians in Palestine and Lebanon you fool!

Realitybites
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Mothra said:

Jews are not out slaughtering Christians in the modern world.


Actually, they are.

Oldbear83
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"Al Jazeera is funded in whole or in part by the Qatari government".

Miss that part, did you?
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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My grandma just me we're part Jewish… I'm switching sides
Sic 'em Bears and Go Birds
boognish_bear
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Nothing to see here...

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muddybrazos
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boognish_bear said:





Is a civil war coming to the repub party over America first vs neocons? No more wall kissers running our country.
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The_barBEARian
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muddybrazos said:

boognish_bear said:





Is a civil war coming to the repub party over America first vs neocons? No more wall kissers running our country.


2028 is going to be fun.
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Realitybites
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Oldbear83 said:

"Al Jazeera is funded in whole or in part by the Qatari government".

Miss that part, did you?


Address the claims made, don't shoot the messenger.
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boognish_bear said:




Mike Pence doesn't get to define what conservatism is.

He lost that right when he caved to the pro-LGBT business lobby as governor of Indiana.

He is a case study in everything that is wrong with the Republican party.

I've realized that MAGA was never the goal. It's a result.

Making America Sovereign Again is the goal.

Greatness is downstream of that.

As far as Erika Kirk, she's no Charlie.
Mothra
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The_barBEARian said:

muddybrazos said:

boognish_bear said:





Is a civil war coming to the repub party over America first vs neocons? No more wall kissers running our country.


2028 is going to be fun.


Lol. Thomas Massey couldn't even defeat a terrible, paper candidate in his home district, and you think that he and the moron known as MGT are going to take over the Republican Party in 2028? LMAO.

You antisemites and your pipe dreams crack me up.
Mothra
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Realitybites said:

Mothra said:

"Jews are not out slaughtering Christians in the modern world.


Actually, they are.



So, your "evidence" for the position that Christians are being targeted and slaughtered by the Jews is the bare assertions of a "pastor" on Al Jazeera (of all networks), asked leading questions by an obviously biased reporter who claims the Jews are committing genocide?

I expected better, even from a biased, antisemite such as yourself. Let me help you with actual facts:

According to the UN, there were approximately 1,000 Christians in Gaza prior to October 7th, out of more than 2 million inhabitants. They comprised approximately .04% of the population of Gaza. I say approximately because after Hamas took over in 2007, Christians have been brutally persecuted by their fellow Gazans since that time, and have either fled or gone underground. In short, Gaza is unlivable if you are Christian. You have no place in public life. The idea that the Israelis bombing of Gaza is targeting Christians is quite frankly, absurd.

If this is your "evidence" that Christians are being targeted and slaughtered by the Jews, you have no evidence.
Mothra
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Realitybites said:

Oldbear83 said:

"Al Jazeera is funded in whole or in part by the Qatari government".

Miss that part, did you?


Address the claims made, don't shoot the messenger.

Addressed your bare assertions. See above.
Mothra
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boognish_bear said:



He's right, of course.

Tucker is a loon.
Mothra
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The_barBEARian said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

Mothra said:


But do events that happened hundreds of years ago mean that Christians today hate Muslims and Jews or want them dead?

Are Muslims and Jews today justified in assuming that modern Christians share the motives of people who lived nearly a thousand years ago?

Can we reasonably claim that present-day Christians should be judged by those events - or that they secretly support that kind of violence now?

Of course not.

You can't take isolated events from centuries ago, apply them to an entire group, and pretend that explains how millions of people think today. That isn't history - it's just using the past to push a narrative in the present.


You cannot divorce history from the present.

The Talmud still teaches what it taught then.

As you well know, the Crusades (with the exception of the fourth) were defensive wars in response to jihad. Your willingness to draw a moral equivalence between the Crusades and Islamic & Jewish terrorism shows how far down the road of Israel worship you have traveled.

It's just that modern Jews have found it more cost effective to fund AIPAC than take up arms and aid an invading army.

Of course history matters. But you don't get to freeze a group in time and pretend nothing has changed in hundreds or thousands of years. If you apply that standard honestly, then every group - Christians included - would be permanently defined by the worst things done in their past. You clearly don't believe that, because you immediately try to excuse and cherry pick the Crusades as merely "defensive" in nature (as if the slaughter of women and children is somehow defensive) - except for the sacking of Constantinople of course, from which Christians should get a pass, in your shoddy reasoning.

As for the Talmud, you're treating a large, complex body of writingfull of debates and different viewpointsas if it speaks with one voice. That's like pulling lines out of Leviticus and claiming that it somehow defines all Christians today.

And more to the point, if your claim is that Jews have some ongoing, built-in hostility, where is the evidence of that today? Jews are not out slaughtering Christians in the modern world. There's no ongoing pattern that supports what you're trying to argue. You're projecting ancient conflicts onto people living now, which if of course indicative of your antisemitism.


Jews are slaughtering Christians in Palestine and Lebanon you fool!



No, they're not, as addressed above. You have no evidence.
 
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