Tucker's attempt to normalize Nick Fuentes

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Osodecentx said:

Wonder if Tucker will show it on his podcast
The Eternal Jew (film)

The Eternal Jew is a 1940 German antisemitic[2] Nazi propaganda film,[3] presented as a documentary. The initial German title was Der ewige Jude, the German term for the character of the "Wandering Jew" in medieval folklore. Directed by Fritz Hippler at the insistence of the Minister of Propaganda, Joseph Goebbels, the screenplay is credited to Eberhard Taubert and narrated by Harry Giese; it consists of feature and documentary footage combined with materials filmed shortly after the Nazi occupation of Poland. At this time, Poland's Jewish population was about three million, roughly ten percent of the total population.

Or mb he'll show this you weasel:


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Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

The_barBEARian said:



This is actually correct and the gates of Toledo is a prime example. I watched a debate recently between jew and a catholic and he admitted they prefer muslims to Christians.


Well then that settles it. Jews prefer Muslims to Christians. Your personal anecdote has me convinced.

lol.

You can ask around and DYOR. I dont really care but history of the gares of Toledo proves that jews aided the musllim coinquest of Spain in 700. You probably are cool with that since you hate catholics and are somewhat jewiish.


I should take a poll of the Jews I know to confirm your personal anecdote? And I should base my opinion on an event that happened 1300 years ago?

I say this as respectfully as I can: you have some of the dumbest takes on this board. And that is saying something.

Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don't you believe me? 47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God."

The pharisees who Jesus is addressing are the current inhabitants of Israel and the people who curse Christ and the blessed moither,

Honestly, this is just another really stupid and uninformed take. What's even more remarkable is that four lost souls are as ignorant about scripture as you are (we know three of them, 1) Barbearian; 2) BigBear; 3) reality bear, but who's the fourth)?

In these verses, Jesus is speaking to a specific group of Jewish leaders and opponents who were challenging Him during that conversation in Jerusalem (John 8). When He says, "You belong to your father, the devil," there is of course zero evidence he is making a statement about all Jews, all Israelites, or all future inhabitants of Israel. Rather, He is speaking about those who were rejecting the truth and seeking to kill Him, thereby reflecting the devil's character of murder and falsehood.

And of course, we have to read this in the context of Romans, where Paul tells us to be careful not to become arrogant toward the Jewish people. Paul reminds Gentile believers that Israel received "the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises" (Romans 9:4-5). He explicitly warns, "do not boast over those branches," and reminds believers that "it is not you that support the root, but the root that supports you" (Romans 11:18). Indeed, Paul goes so far as to say that the Jewish people remain "beloved for the sake of their forefathers. For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable" (Romans 11:28-29).

Just a reminder to all of the Jew-haters that Jesus, Mary, the Apostles, and the earliest Christians were themselves Jews.

P.S. There is no such thing as blasphemy toward the "blessed mother." She's not a god that can be blasphemed. She's a mortal and a sinner, just like the rest of us, who was blessed to give birth to Christ.


Very 1984 for your to keep a list and report us to your masters in Mossad.
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Realitybites said:

Adversus Judaeos, Saint John Chrysostom, 386 A.D.

One would do well to read the thoughts of a man who memorized the entire Bible on this matter.

Chrysostom was more concerned with Judaizers than Jews, which is understandable. But in his later years, he did indeed turn into a pretty severe antisemite who unfortunately completely ignored Paul's admonitions in Romans. Numerous well-known theologians were highly critical of his beliefs, which is understandable given how far he strayed from NT scripture. His canonization was somewhat controversial even at that time.

I am so glad our faith tradition doesn't engage in the heresy of canonization of fallible humans.
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The_barBEARian said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

The_barBEARian said:



This is actually correct and the gates of Toledo is a prime example. I watched a debate recently between jew and a catholic and he admitted they prefer muslims to Christians.


Well then that settles it. Jews prefer Muslims to Christians. Your personal anecdote has me convinced.

lol.

You can ask around and DYOR. I dont really care but history of the gares of Toledo proves that jews aided the musllim coinquest of Spain in 700. You probably are cool with that since you hate catholics and are somewhat jewiish.


I should take a poll of the Jews I know to confirm your personal anecdote? And I should base my opinion on an event that happened 1300 years ago?

I say this as respectfully as I can: you have some of the dumbest takes on this board. And that is saying something.

Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don't you believe me? 47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God."

The pharisees who Jesus is addressing are the current inhabitants of Israel and the people who curse Christ and the blessed moither,

Honestly, this is just another really stupid and uninformed take. What's even more remarkable is that four lost souls are as ignorant about scripture as you are (we know three of them, 1) Barbearian; 2) BigBear; 3) reality bear, but who's the fourth)?

In these verses, Jesus is speaking to a specific group of Jewish leaders and opponents who were challenging Him during that conversation in Jerusalem (John 8). When He says, "You belong to your father, the devil," there is of course zero evidence he is making a statement about all Jews, all Israelites, or all future inhabitants of Israel. Rather, He is speaking about those who were rejecting the truth and seeking to kill Him, thereby reflecting the devil's character of murder and falsehood.

And of course, we have to read this in the context of Romans, where Paul tells us to be careful not to become arrogant toward the Jewish people. Paul reminds Gentile believers that Israel received "the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises" (Romans 9:4-5). He explicitly warns, "do not boast over those branches," and reminds believers that "it is not you that support the root, but the root that supports you" (Romans 11:18). Indeed, Paul goes so far as to say that the Jewish people remain "beloved for the sake of their forefathers. For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable" (Romans 11:28-29).

Just a reminder to all of the Jew-haters that Jesus, Mary, the Apostles, and the earliest Christians were themselves Jews.

P.S. There is no such thing as blasphemy toward the "blessed mother." She's not a god that can be blasphemed. She's a mortal and a sinner, just like the rest of us, who was blessed to give birth to Christ.


Very 1984 for your to keep a list and report us to your masters in Mossad.

Ok, Adolf.
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muddybrazos said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

The_barBEARian said:



This is actually correct and the gates of Toledo is a prime example. I watched a debate recently between jew and a catholic and he admitted they prefer muslims to Christians.


Well then that settles it. Jews prefer Muslims to Christians. Your personal anecdote has me convinced.

lol.

You can ask around and DYOR. I dont really care but history of the gares of Toledo proves that jews aided the musllim coinquest of Spain in 700. You probably are cool with that since you hate catholics and are somewhat jewiish.


I should take a poll of the Jews I know to confirm your personal anecdote? And I should base my opinion on an event that happened 1300 years ago?

I say this as respectfully as I can: you have some of the dumbest takes on this board. And that is saying something.

Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don't you believe me? 47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God."

The pharisees who Jesus is addressing are the current inhabitants of Israel and the people who curse Christ and the blessed moither,

Honestly, this is just another really stupid and uninformed take.

In these verses, Jesus is speaking to a specific group of Jewish leaders and opponents who were challenging Him during that conversation in Jerusalem (John 8). When He says, "You belong to your father, the devil," there is of course zero evidence he is making a statement about all Jews, all Israelites, or all future inhabitants of Israel. Rather, He is speaking about those who were rejecting the truth and seeking to kill Him, thereby reflecting the devil's character of murder and falsehood.

And of course, we have to read this in the context of Romans, where Paul tells us to be careful not to become arrogant toward the Jewish people. Paul reminds Gentile believers that Israel received "the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises" (Romans 9:4-5). He explicitly warns, "do not boast over those branches," and reminds believers that "it is not you that support the root, but the root that supports you" (Romans 11:18). Indeed, Paul goes so far as to say that the Jewish people remain "beloved for the sake of their forefathers. For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable" (Romans 11:28-29).

Just a reminder to all of the Jew-haters that Jesus, Mary, the Apostles, and the earliest Christians were themselves Jews.

P.S. There is no such thing as blasphemy toward the "blessed mother." She's not a god that can be blasphemed. She's a mortal and a sinner, just like the rest of us, who was blessed to give birth to Christ.

Idk man, seems a pretty spot on description of those who currently run Israel. They mock and curse Christ and seek to destroy Chirtianity so their messiah the anti Christ can come.

No, they don't really do that at all, but even if they did, it doesn't change your remarkable lack of understanding of scripture on this topic.
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Mothra said:

The_barBEARian said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

The_barBEARian said:



This is actually correct and the gates of Toledo is a prime example. I watched a debate recently between jew and a catholic and he admitted they prefer muslims to Christians.


Well then that settles it. Jews prefer Muslims to Christians. Your personal anecdote has me convinced.

lol.

You can ask around and DYOR. I dont really care but history of the gares of Toledo proves that jews aided the musllim coinquest of Spain in 700. You probably are cool with that since you hate catholics and are somewhat jewiish.


I should take a poll of the Jews I know to confirm your personal anecdote? And I should base my opinion on an event that happened 1300 years ago?

I say this as respectfully as I can: you have some of the dumbest takes on this board. And that is saying something.

Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don't you believe me? 47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God."

The pharisees who Jesus is addressing are the current inhabitants of Israel and the people who curse Christ and the blessed moither,

Honestly, this is just another really stupid and uninformed take. What's even more remarkable is that four lost souls are as ignorant about scripture as you are (we know three of them, 1) Barbearian; 2) BigBear; 3) reality bear, but who's the fourth)?

In these verses, Jesus is speaking to a specific group of Jewish leaders and opponents who were challenging Him during that conversation in Jerusalem (John 8). When He says, "You belong to your father, the devil," there is of course zero evidence he is making a statement about all Jews, all Israelites, or all future inhabitants of Israel. Rather, He is speaking about those who were rejecting the truth and seeking to kill Him, thereby reflecting the devil's character of murder and falsehood.

And of course, we have to read this in the context of Romans, where Paul tells us to be careful not to become arrogant toward the Jewish people. Paul reminds Gentile believers that Israel received "the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises" (Romans 9:4-5). He explicitly warns, "do not boast over those branches," and reminds believers that "it is not you that support the root, but the root that supports you" (Romans 11:18). Indeed, Paul goes so far as to say that the Jewish people remain "beloved for the sake of their forefathers. For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable" (Romans 11:28-29).

Just a reminder to all of the Jew-haters that Jesus, Mary, the Apostles, and the earliest Christians were themselves Jews.

P.S. There is no such thing as blasphemy toward the "blessed mother." She's not a god that can be blasphemed. She's a mortal and a sinner, just like the rest of us, who was blessed to give birth to Christ.


Very 1984 for your to keep a list and report us to your masters in Mossad.

Ok, Adolf.


I guess that makes me the guy who spared your grandfather's life
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Mothra said:

historian said:

muddybrazos said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

The_barBEARian said:



This is actually correct and the gates of Toledo is a prime example. I watched a debate recently between jew and a catholic and he admitted they prefer muslims to Christians.


Well then that settles it. Jews prefer Muslims to Christians. Your personal anecdote has me convinced.

lol.

You can ask around and DYOR. I dont really care but history of the gares of Toledo proves that jews aided the musllim coinquest of Spain in 700. You probably are cool with that since you hate catholics and are somewhat jewiish.


I should take a poll of the Jews I know to confirm your personal anecdote? And I should base my opinion on an event that happened 1300 years ago?

I say this as respectfully as I can: you have some of the dumbest takes on this board. And that is saying something.

Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don't you believe me? 47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God."

The pharisees who Jesus is addressing are the current inhabitants of Israel and the people who curse Christ and the blessed moither,

No one who currently inhabits Israel was alive 2,000 years ago and they are in no way the same as ancient Pharisees. They probably have far more differences than similarities. For one thing Israeli society today is very secular. That was most definitely not the case in ancient times. Christ did criticize the Pharisees for their hypocrisy and modern Israelis have plenty of room for criticism. That's not much of a basis for comparison since it's a generalization that applies to everyone.

Indeed, the take is so ridiculous that I think we are offering pearls before swine. These guys aren't deep thinkers, have a remarkable lack of knowledge of scripture, and are likely not even Christians in the first place. They know one thing, and one thing only - they hate Jews with a passion.


I hate evil. That is why I hate you and that is why I hate Israel - the largest exporter of Islamic terror in the West.

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Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

The_barBEARian said:



This is actually correct and the gates of Toledo is a prime example. I watched a debate recently between jew and a catholic and he admitted they prefer muslims to Christians.


Well then that settles it. Jews prefer Muslims to Christians. Your personal anecdote has me convinced.

lol.

You can ask around and DYOR. I dont really care but history of the gares of Toledo proves that jews aided the musllim coinquest of Spain in 700. You probably are cool with that since you hate catholics and are somewhat jewiish.


I should take a poll of the Jews I know to confirm your personal anecdote? And I should base my opinion on an event that happened 1300 years ago?

I say this as respectfully as I can: you have some of the dumbest takes on this board. And that is saying something.

Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don't you believe me? 47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God."

The pharisees who Jesus is addressing are the current inhabitants of Israel and the people who curse Christ and the blessed moither,

Honestly, this is just another really stupid and uninformed take. What's even more remarkable is that four lost souls are as ignorant about scripture as you are (we know three of them, 1) Barbearian; 2) BigBear; 3) reality bear, but who's the fourth)?

In these verses, Jesus is speaking to a specific group of Jewish leaders and opponents who were challenging Him during that conversation in Jerusalem (John 8). When He says, "You belong to your father, the devil," there is of course zero evidence he is making a statement about all Jews, all Israelites, or all future inhabitants of Israel. Rather, He is speaking about those who were rejecting the truth and seeking to kill Him, thereby reflecting the devil's character of murder and falsehood.

And of course, we have to read this in the context of Romans, where Paul tells us to be careful not to become arrogant toward the Jewish people. Paul reminds Gentile believers that Israel received "the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises" (Romans 9:4-5). He explicitly warns, "do not boast over those branches," and reminds believers that "it is not you that support the root, but the root that supports you" (Romans 11:18). Indeed, Paul goes so far as to say that the Jewish people remain "beloved for the sake of their forefathers. For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable" (Romans 11:28-29).

Just a reminder to all of the Jew-haters that Jesus, Mary, the Apostles, and the earliest Christians were themselves Jews.

P.S. There is no such thing as blasphemy toward the "blessed mother." She's not a god that can be blasphemed. She's a mortal and a sinner, just like the rest of us, who was blessed to give birth to Christ.


Lmao, lost soul because I don't support Israel? Don't recall Christ telling us to support the nation of Israel. In fact your boy Historian pointed out a good point that the modern nation of Israel is heavily secular.

Aren't you some sort of Calvinist? Yeah, I'll pass on listening to any of your takes hahaha.
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The_barBEARian said:

Mothra said:

The_barBEARian said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

The_barBEARian said:



This is actually correct and the gates of Toledo is a prime example. I watched a debate recently between jew and a catholic and he admitted they prefer muslims to Christians.


Well then that settles it. Jews prefer Muslims to Christians. Your personal anecdote has me convinced.

lol.

You can ask around and DYOR. I dont really care but history of the gares of Toledo proves that jews aided the musllim coinquest of Spain in 700. You probably are cool with that since you hate catholics and are somewhat jewiish.


I should take a poll of the Jews I know to confirm your personal anecdote? And I should base my opinion on an event that happened 1300 years ago?

I say this as respectfully as I can: you have some of the dumbest takes on this board. And that is saying something.

Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don't you believe me? 47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God."

The pharisees who Jesus is addressing are the current inhabitants of Israel and the people who curse Christ and the blessed moither,

Honestly, this is just another really stupid and uninformed take. What's even more remarkable is that four lost souls are as ignorant about scripture as you are (we know three of them, 1) Barbearian; 2) BigBear; 3) reality bear, but who's the fourth)?

In these verses, Jesus is speaking to a specific group of Jewish leaders and opponents who were challenging Him during that conversation in Jerusalem (John 8). When He says, "You belong to your father, the devil," there is of course zero evidence he is making a statement about all Jews, all Israelites, or all future inhabitants of Israel. Rather, He is speaking about those who were rejecting the truth and seeking to kill Him, thereby reflecting the devil's character of murder and falsehood.

And of course, we have to read this in the context of Romans, where Paul tells us to be careful not to become arrogant toward the Jewish people. Paul reminds Gentile believers that Israel received "the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises" (Romans 9:4-5). He explicitly warns, "do not boast over those branches," and reminds believers that "it is not you that support the root, but the root that supports you" (Romans 11:18). Indeed, Paul goes so far as to say that the Jewish people remain "beloved for the sake of their forefathers. For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable" (Romans 11:28-29).

Just a reminder to all of the Jew-haters that Jesus, Mary, the Apostles, and the earliest Christians were themselves Jews.

P.S. There is no such thing as blasphemy toward the "blessed mother." She's not a god that can be blasphemed. She's a mortal and a sinner, just like the rest of us, who was blessed to give birth to Christ.


Very 1984 for your to keep a list and report us to your masters in Mossad.

Ok, Adolf.


I guess that makes me the guy who spared your grandfather's life

Sure thing, Heinrich.
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BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

The_barBEARian said:



This is actually correct and the gates of Toledo is a prime example. I watched a debate recently between jew and a catholic and he admitted they prefer muslims to Christians.


Well then that settles it. Jews prefer Muslims to Christians. Your personal anecdote has me convinced.

lol.

You can ask around and DYOR. I dont really care but history of the gares of Toledo proves that jews aided the musllim coinquest of Spain in 700. You probably are cool with that since you hate catholics and are somewhat jewiish.


I should take a poll of the Jews I know to confirm your personal anecdote? And I should base my opinion on an event that happened 1300 years ago?

I say this as respectfully as I can: you have some of the dumbest takes on this board. And that is saying something.

Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don't you believe me? 47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God."

The pharisees who Jesus is addressing are the current inhabitants of Israel and the people who curse Christ and the blessed moither,

Honestly, this is just another really stupid and uninformed take. What's even more remarkable is that four lost souls are as ignorant about scripture as you are (we know three of them, 1) Barbearian; 2) BigBear; 3) reality bear, but who's the fourth)?

In these verses, Jesus is speaking to a specific group of Jewish leaders and opponents who were challenging Him during that conversation in Jerusalem (John 8). When He says, "You belong to your father, the devil," there is of course zero evidence he is making a statement about all Jews, all Israelites, or all future inhabitants of Israel. Rather, He is speaking about those who were rejecting the truth and seeking to kill Him, thereby reflecting the devil's character of murder and falsehood.

And of course, we have to read this in the context of Romans, where Paul tells us to be careful not to become arrogant toward the Jewish people. Paul reminds Gentile believers that Israel received "the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises" (Romans 9:4-5). He explicitly warns, "do not boast over those branches," and reminds believers that "it is not you that support the root, but the root that supports you" (Romans 11:18). Indeed, Paul goes so far as to say that the Jewish people remain "beloved for the sake of their forefathers. For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable" (Romans 11:28-29).

Just a reminder to all of the Jew-haters that Jesus, Mary, the Apostles, and the earliest Christians were themselves Jews.

P.S. There is no such thing as blasphemy toward the "blessed mother." She's not a god that can be blasphemed. She's a mortal and a sinner, just like the rest of us, who was blessed to give birth to Christ.


Lmao, lost soul because I don't support Israel? Don't recall Christ telling us to support the nation of Israel. In fact your boy Historian pointed out a good point that the modern nation of Israel is heavily secular.

Aren't you some sort of Calvinist? Yeah, I'll pass on listening to any of your takes hahaha.

Your reading comprehension remains atrocious.

I've already explained it to you above. But cliff notes version is, a person who bears no fruit and possesses the kind of hatred in his heart for entire people groups that you do, completely ignoring Christ's second greatest command, does not exhibit any evidence that he actually knows Christ and has a relationship with Him. It goes far beyond "supporting Israel," which is of course no litmus test for Christianity.
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The_barBEARian said:

Mothra said:

historian said:

muddybrazos said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

The_barBEARian said:



This is actually correct and the gates of Toledo is a prime example. I watched a debate recently between jew and a catholic and he admitted they prefer muslims to Christians.


Well then that settles it. Jews prefer Muslims to Christians. Your personal anecdote has me convinced.

lol.

You can ask around and DYOR. I dont really care but history of the gares of Toledo proves that jews aided the musllim coinquest of Spain in 700. You probably are cool with that since you hate catholics and are somewhat jewiish.


I should take a poll of the Jews I know to confirm your personal anecdote? And I should base my opinion on an event that happened 1300 years ago?

I say this as respectfully as I can: you have some of the dumbest takes on this board. And that is saying something.

Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don't you believe me? 47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God."

The pharisees who Jesus is addressing are the current inhabitants of Israel and the people who curse Christ and the blessed moither,

No one who currently inhabits Israel was alive 2,000 years ago and they are in no way the same as ancient Pharisees. They probably have far more differences than similarities. For one thing Israeli society today is very secular. That was most definitely not the case in ancient times. Christ did criticize the Pharisees for their hypocrisy and modern Israelis have plenty of room for criticism. That's not much of a basis for comparison since it's a generalization that applies to everyone.

Indeed, the take is so ridiculous that I think we are offering pearls before swine. These guys aren't deep thinkers, have a remarkable lack of knowledge of scripture, and are likely not even Christians in the first place. They know one thing, and one thing only - they hate Jews with a passion.


I hate evil. That is why I hate you and that is why I hate Israel - the largest exporter of Islamic terror in the West.



Indeed, you hate many different people groups and people. It pretty much consumes you, and explains a lot about why you remain single late into your thirties.

As I said before, I hope you find Him someday.
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Mothra said:

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Mothra said:

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Mothra said:

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This is actually correct and the gates of Toledo is a prime example. I watched a debate recently between jew and a catholic and he admitted they prefer muslims to Christians.


Well then that settles it. Jews prefer Muslims to Christians. Your personal anecdote has me convinced.

lol.

You can ask around and DYOR. I dont really care but history of the gares of Toledo proves that jews aided the musllim coinquest of Spain in 700. You probably are cool with that since you hate catholics and are somewhat jewiish.


I should take a poll of the Jews I know to confirm your personal anecdote? And I should base my opinion on an event that happened 1300 years ago?

I say this as respectfully as I can: you have some of the dumbest takes on this board. And that is saying something.

Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don't you believe me? 47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God."

The pharisees who Jesus is addressing are the current inhabitants of Israel and the people who curse Christ and the blessed moither,

Honestly, this is just another really stupid and uninformed take. What's even more remarkable is that four lost souls are as ignorant about scripture as you are (we know three of them, 1) Barbearian; 2) BigBear; 3) reality bear, but who's the fourth)?

In these verses, Jesus is speaking to a specific group of Jewish leaders and opponents who were challenging Him during that conversation in Jerusalem (John 8). When He says, "You belong to your father, the devil," there is of course zero evidence he is making a statement about all Jews, all Israelites, or all future inhabitants of Israel. Rather, He is speaking about those who were rejecting the truth and seeking to kill Him, thereby reflecting the devil's character of murder and falsehood.

And of course, we have to read this in the context of Romans, where Paul tells us to be careful not to become arrogant toward the Jewish people. Paul reminds Gentile believers that Israel received "the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises" (Romans 9:4-5). He explicitly warns, "do not boast over those branches," and reminds believers that "it is not you that support the root, but the root that supports you" (Romans 11:18). Indeed, Paul goes so far as to say that the Jewish people remain "beloved for the sake of their forefathers. For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable" (Romans 11:28-29).

Just a reminder to all of the Jew-haters that Jesus, Mary, the Apostles, and the earliest Christians were themselves Jews.

P.S. There is no such thing as blasphemy toward the "blessed mother." She's not a god that can be blasphemed. She's a mortal and a sinner, just like the rest of us, who was blessed to give birth to Christ.


Lmao, lost soul because I don't support Israel? Don't recall Christ telling us to support the nation of Israel. In fact your boy Historian pointed out a good point that the modern nation of Israel is heavily secular.

Aren't you some sort of Calvinist? Yeah, I'll pass on listening to any of your takes hahaha.

Your reading comprehension remains atrocious.

I've already explained it to you above. But cliff notes version is, a person who bears no fruit and possesses the kind of hatred in his heart for entire people groups that you do, completely ignoring Christ's second greatest command, does not exhibit any evidence that he actually knows Christ and has a relationship with Him. It goes far beyond "supporting Israel," which is of course no litmus test for Christianity.


Sure thing bozo. I have hatred in my heart because I don't want our nation to be under foreign influence.

We've all embarrassed you in debate, so now you have nothing left but try to play the role of God, as if you are holier than thou. You are damning people because they don't have the same politics as you. All because you got embarrassed when I asked you to provide evidence that Thomas Massie is an antisemite.
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Adversus Judaeos, Saint John Chrysostom, 386 A.D.

One would do well to read the thoughts of a man who memorized the entire Bible on this matter.

Chrysostom was more concerned with Judaizers than Jews, which is understandable. But in his later years, he did indeed turn into a pretty severe antisemite who unfortunately completely ignored Paul's admonitions in Romans. Numerous well-known theologians were highly critical of his beliefs, which is understandable given how far he strayed from NT scripture. His canonization was somewhat controversial even at that time.

I am so glad our faith tradition doesn't engage in the heresy of canonization of fallible humans.


Honestly, I'm not entirely sure *what* parts of the faith tradition that you claim you actually believe in. You've already endorsed dispensational theology, which Calvinism rejects.

Such, I say, is the corporeal presence which the nature of the sacrament [the Eucharist] requires, and which we say is here displayed in such power and efficacy, that it not only gives our minds undoubted assurance of eternal life, but also secures the immortality of our flesh, since it is now quickened by his immortal flesh...

Their [the Jews] rotten and unbending stiff-neckedness deserves that they be oppressed unendingly and without measure or end and that they die in their misery without the pity of anyone.

- John Calvin

Guess you're just a cafeteria Calvinist practicing Mothraism.
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Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

Adversus Judaeos, Saint John Chrysostom, 386 A.D.

One would do well to read the thoughts of a man who memorized the entire Bible on this matter.

Chrysostom was more concerned with Judaizers than Jews, which is understandable. But in his later years, he did indeed turn into a pretty severe antisemite who unfortunately completely ignored Paul's admonitions in Romans. Numerous well-known theologians were highly critical of his beliefs, which is understandable given how far he strayed from NT scripture. His canonization was somewhat controversial even at that time.

I am so glad our faith tradition doesn't engage in the heresy of canonization of fallible humans.


Honestly, I'm not entirely sure *what* parts of the faith tradition that you claim you actually believe in. You've already endorsed dispensational theology, which Calvinism rejects.

Such, I say, is the corporeal presence which the nature of the sacrament [the Eucharist] requires, and which we say is here displayed in such power and efficacy, that it not only gives our minds undoubted assurance of eternal life, but also secures the immortality of our flesh, since it is now quickened by his immortal flesh...

Their [the Jews] rotten and unbending stiff-neckedness deserves that they be oppressed unendingly and without measure or end and that they die in their misery without the pity of anyone.

- John Calvin

Guess you're just a cafeteria Calvinist practicing Mothraism.


You leap to some interesting conclusions. Rejection of the heretical replacement theology is not embracement of dispensationalism. In fact, it is clear to me you probably don't even know what the term means. It's not merely believing the Jews remain a chosen people.

My views are perfectly in line with traditional Calvinism - another term you don't appear to understand.

As for the tradition I believe in? I believe that Jesus is the son of God and died for our sins. I believe it is by his grace we have been saved. You know, the bedrock of the Christian faith? That's the tradition I embrace.

I hope one day you get there too. But it will require more than googling quotes that confirm your Jew hatred. You're going to actually have to crack open a Bible.
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Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

Adversus Judaeos, Saint John Chrysostom, 386 A.D.

One would do well to read the thoughts of a man who memorized the entire Bible on this matter.

Chrysostom was more concerned with Judaizers than Jews, which is understandable. But in his later years, he did indeed turn into a pretty severe antisemite who unfortunately completely ignored Paul's admonitions in Romans. Numerous well-known theologians were highly critical of his beliefs, which is understandable given how far he strayed from NT scripture. His canonization was somewhat controversial even at that time.

I am so glad our faith tradition doesn't engage in the heresy of canonization of fallible humans.


Honestly, I'm not entirely sure *what* parts of the faith tradition that you claim you actually believe in. You've already endorsed dispensational theology, which Calvinism rejects.

Such, I say, is the corporeal presence which the nature of the sacrament [the Eucharist] requires, and which we say is here displayed in such power and efficacy, that it not only gives our minds undoubted assurance of eternal life, but also secures the immortality of our flesh, since it is now quickened by his immortal flesh...

Their [the Jews] rotten and unbending stiff-neckedness deserves that they be oppressed unendingly and without measure or end and that they die in their misery without the pity of anyone.

- John Calvin

Guess you're just a cafeteria Calvinist practicing Mothraism.


You leap to some interesting conclusions. Rejection of the heretical replacement theology is not embracement of dispensationalism. In fact, it is clear to me you probably don't even know what the term means. It's not merely believing the Jews remain a chosen people.

My views are perfectly in line with traditional Calvinism - another term you don't appear to understand.

As for the tradition I believe in? I believe that Jesus is the son of God and died for our sins. I believe it is by his grace we have been saved. You know, the bedrock of the Christian faith? That's the tradition I embrace.

I hope one day you get there too. But it will require more than googling quotes that confirm your Jew hatred. You're going to actually have to crack open a Bible.



What church do you go to?
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Ok, we need to clear up your confusion regarding the terms you're throwing around.

First, let's address your apparent belief that affirming God's continuing purposes for the Jewish people is somehow contrary to Calvinism.

As a preliminary matter, my position comes from Scripture, particularly Romans 9-11. Paul explicitly says that God has not rejected His people. He warns Gentile believers not to boast against the natural branches. He states that the gifts and calling of God are irrevocable. While you quote Chrysostom, I quote the Apostle Paul.

If I'm forced to choose between Chrysostom's rhetoric and Paul's teaching, I'll side with the Apostle Paul every time. And of course, therein lies a key distinction between true Christianity and Orthodoxy.

Second, you continue to use the term "dispensationalism" as though it simply means believing that God has not abandoned the Jewish people. That is not what dispensationalism is. Dispensationalism is a much broader theological and eschatological system involving the relationship between Israel and the Church, the covenants, prophecy, and the end times. One can reject replacement theology without embracing dispensationalism.

As for Calvin, if you were at all familiar with his teachings, you would know that Calvin did not believe God had permanently cast off the Jewish people. Commenting on Romans 11, he expressly rejected the notion that God's covenant with Abraham had been abolished and anticipated Jews returning to the obedience of faith. So your attempt to contrast my position with Calvinism is rather ironic.

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The_barBEARian said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

Adversus Judaeos, Saint John Chrysostom, 386 A.D.

One would do well to read the thoughts of a man who memorized the entire Bible on this matter.

Chrysostom was more concerned with Judaizers than Jews, which is understandable. But in his later years, he did indeed turn into a pretty severe antisemite who unfortunately completely ignored Paul's admonitions in Romans. Numerous well-known theologians were highly critical of his beliefs, which is understandable given how far he strayed from NT scripture. His canonization was somewhat controversial even at that time.

I am so glad our faith tradition doesn't engage in the heresy of canonization of fallible humans.


Honestly, I'm not entirely sure *what* parts of the faith tradition that you claim you actually believe in. You've already endorsed dispensational theology, which Calvinism rejects.

Such, I say, is the corporeal presence which the nature of the sacrament [the Eucharist] requires, and which we say is here displayed in such power and efficacy, that it not only gives our minds undoubted assurance of eternal life, but also secures the immortality of our flesh, since it is now quickened by his immortal flesh...

Their [the Jews] rotten and unbending stiff-neckedness deserves that they be oppressed unendingly and without measure or end and that they die in their misery without the pity of anyone.

- John Calvin

Guess you're just a cafeteria Calvinist practicing Mothraism.


You leap to some interesting conclusions. Rejection of the heretical replacement theology is not embracement of dispensationalism. In fact, it is clear to me you probably don't even know what the term means. It's not merely believing the Jews remain a chosen people.

My views are perfectly in line with traditional Calvinism - another term you don't appear to understand.

As for the tradition I believe in? I believe that Jesus is the son of God and died for our sins. I believe it is by his grace we have been saved. You know, the bedrock of the Christian faith? That's the tradition I embrace.

I hope one day you get there too. But it will require more than googling quotes that confirm your Jew hatred. You're going to actually have to crack open a Bible.



What church do you go to?

I belong to a church that holds to a reformed theology, continuationism, complementarian, and elder governed. It is not a denominational church - at least not one of the major denominations.
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Mothra said:

As for Calvin, if you were at all familiar with his teachings, you would know that Calvin did not believe God had permanently cast off the Jewish people. Commenting on Romans 11, he expressly rejected the notion that God's covenant with Abraham had been abolished and anticipated Jews returning to the obedience of faith. So your attempt to contrast my position with Calvinism is rather ironic.


Their [the Jews] rotten and unbending stiff-neckedness deserves that they be oppressed unendingly and without measure or end and that they die in their misery without the pity of anyone.

- John Calvin

We're not talking about the Abrahamic Covenant. We're talking about the Mosaic Covenant.
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Realitybites said:

Mothra said:

As for Calvin, if you were at all familiar with his teachings, you would know that Calvin did not believe God had permanently cast off the Jewish people. Commenting on Romans 11, he expressly rejected the notion that God's covenant with Abraham had been abolished and anticipated Jews returning to the obedience of faith. So your attempt to contrast my position with Calvinism is rather ironic.


We're not talking about the Abrahamic Covenant. We're talking about the Mosaic Covenant.

Ah, so you believe the Abrahamic covenant remains in place?

If so, good. So did Paul.
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Is there a reason you can't answer a very simple question and instead decided to post a two hour video from the privileged doughboy interviewing the pretend historian? Do you truly have no original thought on this subject?.

It's a simple yes or no. If you're too afraid to answer it or can't answer it just say so.
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Franco won the Spanish Civil War with aid from Hitler & Mussolini. He created his own fascist dictatorship although remained neutral in WWII.
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historian said:

Franco won the Spanish Civil War with aid from Hitler & Mussolini. He created his own fascist dictatorship although remained neutral in WWII.


So now you're upset the commies lost the Spanish Civil War?

Its amazing how labyrinthine your loyalties become when your ultimate allegiance is to Jewish Supremacy and the genocide of all European nations.
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I thought you'd appreciate this

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The_barBEARian said:

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Franco won the Spanish Civil War with aid from Hitler & Mussolini. He created his own fascist dictatorship although remained neutral in WWII.


So now you're upset the commies lost the Spanish Civil War?

Its amazing how labyrinthine your loyalties become when your ultimate allegiance is to Jewish Supremacy and the genocide of all European nations.

I stated facts. You're the only ranting and raving like a lunatic.
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Waiting on your response. Hopefully you don't tuck tail and run yet again on another theological discussion in which you are way in over your head.
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historian said:

The_barBEARian said:

historian said:

Franco won the Spanish Civil War with aid from Hitler & Mussolini. He created his own fascist dictatorship although remained neutral in WWII.


So now you're upset the commies lost the Spanish Civil War?

Its amazing how labyrinthine your loyalties become when your ultimate allegiance is to Jewish Supremacy and the genocide of all European nations.

I stated facts. You're the only ranting and raving like a lunatic.


You of all people calling anyone else a lunatic is peak irony.
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The_barBEARian said:

historian said:

The_barBEARian said:

historian said:

Franco won the Spanish Civil War with aid from Hitler & Mussolini. He created his own fascist dictatorship although remained neutral in WWII.


So now you're upset the commies lost the Spanish Civil War?

Its amazing how labyrinthine your loyalties become when your ultimate allegiance is to Jewish Supremacy and the genocide of all European nations.

I stated facts. You're the only ranting and raving like a lunatic.


You of all people calling anyone else a lunatic is peak irony.

You may not agree with historian on everything, but at least he can speak calmly, cogently and rationally on a subject matter - something you are completely incapable of.

I don't know if lunatic is the correct term to describe you, but 1) emotional; 2) unhinged; 3) easily triggered could all describe your posts.

I will be honest, I've come to the conclusion that you are likely not a male, but a single, middle-aged woman.
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