Tucker's attempt to normalize Nick Fuentes

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Kinda scary if true that Mark Levin has a direct line to our admiral of the navy.
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Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

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Fishback won 18-35 (which is the most diverse demographic) but still only finished w/ 10%... its wild to me there are still so many damn Boomers.


The largest voting blocker Gen Xers. Sounds like Fishback lost those big time.

Anyone watching this new Fishback didn't have a chance. He's not even conservative.

By the way, the primary is not a very diverse voting block just FYI. The general is.


Fishback isn't conservative because he *checks notes* is anti-flock, anti data center, wants to divest from Israel, and shut down abortion centers?

Looks like your notes were wrong.

Let's take a look at the list you provided. These are his most anti-conservative positions, though several of the others you mentioned certainly wouldn't fall into the conservative category. These things were pretty easy to spot and basic for anyone who has a rudimentary understanding of what it means to be conservative:

  • Ban private equity, foreign buyers, and Airbnb speculators from buying single-family homes; force divestment of existing holdings.
  • Conservatives favor private property rights and free markets. Banning ownership by certain classes of buyers and forcing existing owners to sell is a significant government intervention in the market. This is closer to economic populism, nationalism, or even certain progressive housing proposals than traditional free-market conservatism.
    • $10,000 zero-interest down-payment assistance for qualifying young married couple.
  • Direct government subsidies run against small-government conservative principles. This is nothing more than a government benefit program.
    • Ban new AI/data centers statewide
  • Conservatives typically favor business development, technological innovation, and economic growth. A statewide ban on a major industry is more regulatory than conservative in the traditional sense.
    • Raise teacher pay 25%
  • A state-mandated increase funded by government spending is not a traditionally limited-government position.
    • Offer a $1 billion prize to cure citrus greening
    Government-sponsored industrial policy or targeted subsidies is not free-market conservatism. It's populist more than anything.

    • Add tourism surcharges and taxes on out-of-state/luxury buyers to fund priorities
  • True conservatives prefer lower taxes. Creating new taxes to fund programs is generally not a traditionally conservative approach.



  • Golly you people ****ing hate the younger generation. You conserve nothing.
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    Robert Wilson said:

    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    boognish_bear said:




    Smart young men on the right are the future of this country, and they're all America Firsters. Just give us 10 years


    Lmao

    When foreign bots get to vote, you chuds will have it made.


    We'll have it made once you goyim are six feet under.
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    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    Mothra said:

    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    Mothra said:

    The_barBEARian said:

    boognish_bear said:




    Fishback won 18-35 (which is the most diverse demographic) but still only finished w/ 10%... its wild to me there are still so many damn Boomers.


    The largest voting blocker Gen Xers. Sounds like Fishback lost those big time.

    Anyone watching this new Fishback didn't have a chance. He's not even conservative.

    By the way, the primary is not a very diverse voting block just FYI. The general is.


    Fishback isn't conservative because he *checks notes* is anti-flock, anti data center, wants to divest from Israel, and shut down abortion centers?

    Looks like your notes were wrong.

    Let's take a look at the list you provided. These are his most anti-conservative positions, though several of the others you mentioned certainly wouldn't fall into the conservative category. These things were pretty easy to spot and basic for anyone who has a rudimentary understanding of what it means to be conservative:

    • Ban private equity, foreign buyers, and Airbnb speculators from buying single-family homes; force divestment of existing holdings.
  • Conservatives favor private property rights and free markets. Banning ownership by certain classes of buyers and forcing existing owners to sell is a significant government intervention in the market. This is closer to economic populism, nationalism, or even certain progressive housing proposals than traditional free-market conservatism.
    • $10,000 zero-interest down-payment assistance for qualifying young married couple.
  • Direct government subsidies run against small-government conservative principles. This is nothing more than a government benefit program.
    • Ban new AI/data centers statewide
  • Conservatives typically favor business development, technological innovation, and economic growth. A statewide ban on a major industry is more regulatory than conservative in the traditional sense.
    • Raise teacher pay 25%
  • A state-mandated increase funded by government spending is not a traditionally limited-government position.
    • Offer a $1 billion prize to cure citrus greening
    Government-sponsored industrial policy or targeted subsidies is not free-market conservatism. It's populist more than anything.

    • Add tourism surcharges and taxes on out-of-state/luxury buyers to fund priorities
  • True conservatives prefer lower taxes. Creating new taxes to fund programs is generally not a traditionally conservative approach.



  • Golly you people ****ing hate the younger generation. You conserve nothing.

    It's sad you believe socialist policies are the only way to serve the younger generation. But I guess you're just like every other young liberal in history, in that regard.

    It should be obvious by now that socialism is NOT the way to go. It's never worked anywhere it's been tried. But if that's what you want, Fishback is your guy.

    I am glad to see you've dropped any pretense he's conservative.

    And now we know why Donalds won.
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    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    Mothra said:

    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    Mothra said:

    The_barBEARian said:

    boognish_bear said:




    Fishback won 18-35 (which is the most diverse demographic) but still only finished w/ 10%... its wild to me there are still so many damn Boomers.


    The largest voting blocker Gen Xers. Sounds like Fishback lost those big time.

    Anyone watching this new Fishback didn't have a chance. He's not even conservative.

    By the way, the primary is not a very diverse voting block just FYI. The general is.


    Fishback isn't conservative because he *checks notes* is anti-flock, anti data center, wants to divest from Israel, and shut down abortion centers?

    Looks like your notes were wrong.

    Let's take a look at the list you provided. These are his most anti-conservative positions, though several of the others you mentioned certainly wouldn't fall into the conservative category. These things were pretty easy to spot and basic for anyone who has a rudimentary understanding of what it means to be conservative:

    • Ban private equity, foreign buyers, and Airbnb speculators from buying single-family homes; force divestment of existing holdings.
  • Conservatives favor private property rights and free markets. Banning ownership by certain classes of buyers and forcing existing owners to sell is a significant government intervention in the market. This is closer to economic populism, nationalism, or even certain progressive housing proposals than traditional free-market conservatism.
    • $10,000 zero-interest down-payment assistance for qualifying young married couple.
  • Direct government subsidies run against small-government conservative principles. This is nothing more than a government benefit program.
    • Ban new AI/data centers statewide
  • Conservatives typically favor business development, technological innovation, and economic growth. A statewide ban on a major industry is more regulatory than conservative in the traditional sense.
    • Raise teacher pay 25%
  • A state-mandated increase funded by government spending is not a traditionally limited-government position.
    • Offer a $1 billion prize to cure citrus greening
    Government-sponsored industrial policy or targeted subsidies is not free-market conservatism. It's populist more than anything.

    • Add tourism surcharges and taxes on out-of-state/luxury buyers to fund priorities
  • True conservatives prefer lower taxes. Creating new taxes to fund programs is generally not a traditionally conservative approach.



  • Golly you people ****ing hate the younger generation. You conserve nothing.

    I dont agree that being a conservative means we are all just interchangeable wiidgets to drive GDP higher. Maybe thatrs why im a paleocon and not a neocon. I dont want endless indians coming here to replace us, AI data centers burning up our ground water, letting monsanto give us cancer with glyphosate and other chemicals etc. If previous generations had placed more of an emphasis on making our country great and not shipping jobs overseas and putting whole regions of the country out of business we wouldnt have to Make America Great Again.
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    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    Mothra said:

    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    Mothra said:

    The_barBEARian said:

    boognish_bear said:




    Fishback won 18-35 (which is the most diverse demographic) but still only finished w/ 10%... its wild to me there are still so many damn Boomers.


    The largest voting blocker Gen Xers. Sounds like Fishback lost those big time.

    Anyone watching this new Fishback didn't have a chance. He's not even conservative.

    By the way, the primary is not a very diverse voting block just FYI. The general is.


    Fishback isn't conservative because he *checks notes* is anti-flock, anti data center, wants to divest from Israel, and shut down abortion centers?

    Looks like your notes were wrong.

    Let's take a look at the list you provided. These are his most anti-conservative positions, though several of the others you mentioned certainly wouldn't fall into the conservative category. These things were pretty easy to spot and basic for anyone who has a rudimentary understanding of what it means to be conservative:

    • Ban private equity, foreign buyers, and Airbnb speculators from buying single-family homes; force divestment of existing holdings.
  • Conservatives favor private property rights and free markets. Banning ownership by certain classes of buyers and forcing existing owners to sell is a significant government intervention in the market. This is closer to economic populism, nationalism, or even certain progressive housing proposals than traditional free-market conservatism.
    • $10,000 zero-interest down-payment assistance for qualifying young married couple.
  • Direct government subsidies run against small-government conservative principles. This is nothing more than a government benefit program.
    • Ban new AI/data centers statewide
  • Conservatives typically favor business development, technological innovation, and economic growth. A statewide ban on a major industry is more regulatory than conservative in the traditional sense.
    • Raise teacher pay 25%
  • A state-mandated increase funded by government spending is not a traditionally limited-government position.
    • Offer a $1 billion prize to cure citrus greening
    Government-sponsored industrial policy or targeted subsidies is not free-market conservatism. It's populist more than anything.

    • Add tourism surcharges and taxes on out-of-state/luxury buyers to fund priorities
  • True conservatives prefer lower taxes. Creating new taxes to fund programs is generally not a traditionally conservative approach.



  • Golly you people ****ing hate the younger generation. You conserve nothing.

    You'll have your chance, and rightly so. Just don't blow it by making mass deportation your holy grail.
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    Mothra said:

    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    Mothra said:

    The_barBEARian said:

    boognish_bear said:




    Fishback won 18-35 (which is the most diverse demographic) but still only finished w/ 10%... its wild to me there are still so many damn Boomers.


    The largest voting blocker Gen Xers. Sounds like Fishback lost those big time.

    Anyone watching this new Fishback didn't have a chance. He's not even conservative.

    By the way, the primary is not a very diverse voting block just FYI. The general is.


    Fishback isn't conservative because he *checks notes* is anti-flock, anti data center, wants to divest from Israel, and shut down abortion centers?

    Looks like your notes were wrong.

    Let's take a look at the list you provided. These are his most anti-conservative positions, though several of the others you mentioned certainly wouldn't fall into the conservative category. These things were pretty easy to spot and basic for anyone who has a rudimentary understanding of what it means to be conservative:

    • Ban private equity, foreign buyers, and Airbnb speculators from buying single-family homes; force divestment of existing holdings.
  • Conservatives favor private property rights and free markets. Banning ownership by certain classes of buyers and forcing existing owners to sell is a significant government intervention in the market. This is closer to economic populism, nationalism, or even certain progressive housing proposals than traditional free-market conservatism.
    • $10,000 zero-interest down-payment assistance for qualifying young married couple.
  • Direct government subsidies run against small-government conservative principles. This is nothing more than a government benefit program.
    • Ban new AI/data centers statewide
  • Conservatives typically favor business development, technological innovation, and economic growth. A statewide ban on a major industry is more regulatory than conservative in the traditional sense.
    • Raise teacher pay 25%
  • A state-mandated increase funded by government spending is not a traditionally limited-government position.
    • Offer a $1 billion prize to cure citrus greening
    Government-sponsored industrial policy or targeted subsidies is not free-market conservatism. It's populist more than anything.

    • Add tourism surcharges and taxes on out-of-state/luxury buyers to fund priorities
  • True conservatives prefer lower taxes. Creating new taxes to fund programs is generally not a traditionally conservative approach.


  • You are confusing conservatism with libertarianism.

    This is what the "Fake Right" is... they are economic libertarians & social leftists masquerading as conservatives... except when is comes to Israel, then they are as totalitarian and unconstitutional as it gets.

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    muddybrazos said:

    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    Mothra said:

    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    Mothra said:

    The_barBEARian said:

    boognish_bear said:




    Fishback won 18-35 (which is the most diverse demographic) but still only finished w/ 10%... its wild to me there are still so many damn Boomers.


    The largest voting blocker Gen Xers. Sounds like Fishback lost those big time.

    Anyone watching this new Fishback didn't have a chance. He's not even conservative.

    By the way, the primary is not a very diverse voting block just FYI. The general is.


    Fishback isn't conservative because he *checks notes* is anti-flock, anti data center, wants to divest from Israel, and shut down abortion centers?

    Looks like your notes were wrong.

    Let's take a look at the list you provided. These are his most anti-conservative positions, though several of the others you mentioned certainly wouldn't fall into the conservative category. These things were pretty easy to spot and basic for anyone who has a rudimentary understanding of what it means to be conservative:

    • Ban private equity, foreign buyers, and Airbnb speculators from buying single-family homes; force divestment of existing holdings.
  • Conservatives favor private property rights and free markets. Banning ownership by certain classes of buyers and forcing existing owners to sell is a significant government intervention in the market. This is closer to economic populism, nationalism, or even certain progressive housing proposals than traditional free-market conservatism.
    • $10,000 zero-interest down-payment assistance for qualifying young married couple.
  • Direct government subsidies run against small-government conservative principles. This is nothing more than a government benefit program.
    • Ban new AI/data centers statewide
  • Conservatives typically favor business development, technological innovation, and economic growth. A statewide ban on a major industry is more regulatory than conservative in the traditional sense.
    • Raise teacher pay 25%
  • A state-mandated increase funded by government spending is not a traditionally limited-government position.
    • Offer a $1 billion prize to cure citrus greening
    Government-sponsored industrial policy or targeted subsidies is not free-market conservatism. It's populist more than anything.

    • Add tourism surcharges and taxes on out-of-state/luxury buyers to fund priorities
  • True conservatives prefer lower taxes. Creating new taxes to fund programs is generally not a traditionally conservative approach.



  • Golly you people ****ing hate the younger generation. You conserve nothing.

    I dont agree that being a conservative means we are all just interchangeable wiidgets to drive GDP higher. Maybe thatrs why im a paleocon and not a neocon. I dont want endless indians coming here to replace us, AI data centers burning up our ground water, letting monsanto give us cancer with glyphosate and other chemicals etc. If previous generations had placed more of an emphasis on making our country great and not shipping jobs overseas and putting whole regions of the country out of business we wouldnt have to Make America Great Again.

    Good points.
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    Mothra said:

    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    Mothra said:

    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    Mothra said:

    The_barBEARian said:

    boognish_bear said:




    Fishback won 18-35 (which is the most diverse demographic) but still only finished w/ 10%... its wild to me there are still so many damn Boomers.


    The largest voting blocker Gen Xers. Sounds like Fishback lost those big time.

    Anyone watching this new Fishback didn't have a chance. He's not even conservative.

    By the way, the primary is not a very diverse voting block just FYI. The general is.


    Fishback isn't conservative because he *checks notes* is anti-flock, anti data center, wants to divest from Israel, and shut down abortion centers?

    Looks like your notes were wrong.

    Let's take a look at the list you provided. These are his most anti-conservative positions, though several of the others you mentioned certainly wouldn't fall into the conservative category. These things were pretty easy to spot and basic for anyone who has a rudimentary understanding of what it means to be conservative:

    • Ban private equity, foreign buyers, and Airbnb speculators from buying single-family homes; force divestment of existing holdings.
  • Conservatives favor private property rights and free markets. Banning ownership by certain classes of buyers and forcing existing owners to sell is a significant government intervention in the market. This is closer to economic populism, nationalism, or even certain progressive housing proposals than traditional free-market conservatism.
    • $10,000 zero-interest down-payment assistance for qualifying young married couple.
  • Direct government subsidies run against small-government conservative principles. This is nothing more than a government benefit program.
    • Ban new AI/data centers statewide
  • Conservatives typically favor business development, technological innovation, and economic growth. A statewide ban on a major industry is more regulatory than conservative in the traditional sense.
    • Raise teacher pay 25%
  • A state-mandated increase funded by government spending is not a traditionally limited-government position.
    • Offer a $1 billion prize to cure citrus greening
    Government-sponsored industrial policy or targeted subsidies is not free-market conservatism. It's populist more than anything.

    • Add tourism surcharges and taxes on out-of-state/luxury buyers to fund priorities
  • True conservatives prefer lower taxes. Creating new taxes to fund programs is generally not a traditionally conservative approach.



  • Golly you people ****ing hate the younger generation. You conserve nothing.

    It's sad you believe socialist policies are the only way to serve the younger generation. But I guess you're just like every other young liberal in history, in that regard.

    It should be obvious by now that socialism is NOT the way to go. It's never worked anywhere it's been tried. But if that's what you want, Fishback is your guy.

    I am glad to see you've dropped any pretense he's conservative.

    And now we know why Donalds won.


    Raising teacher pay is not socialist, ******.

    But yea, whatever. I don't care what your personal definition is of a conservative, the general consensus is that Fishback is right wing, which is what I care about.
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    Mothra said:

    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    Mothra said:

    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    Mothra said:

    The_barBEARian said:

    boognish_bear said:




    Fishback won 18-35 (which is the most diverse demographic) but still only finished w/ 10%... its wild to me there are still so many damn Boomers.


    The largest voting blocker Gen Xers. Sounds like Fishback lost those big time.

    Anyone watching this new Fishback didn't have a chance. He's not even conservative.

    By the way, the primary is not a very diverse voting block just FYI. The general is.


    Fishback isn't conservative because he *checks notes* is anti-flock, anti data center, wants to divest from Israel, and shut down abortion centers?

    Looks like your notes were wrong.

    Let's take a look at the list you provided. These are his most anti-conservative positions, though several of the others you mentioned certainly wouldn't fall into the conservative category. These things were pretty easy to spot and basic for anyone who has a rudimentary understanding of what it means to be conservative:

    • Ban private equity, foreign buyers, and Airbnb speculators from buying single-family homes; force divestment of existing holdings.
  • Conservatives favor private property rights and free markets. Banning ownership by certain classes of buyers and forcing existing owners to sell is a significant government intervention in the market. This is closer to economic populism, nationalism, or even certain progressive housing proposals than traditional free-market conservatism.
    • $10,000 zero-interest down-payment assistance for qualifying young married couple.
  • Direct government subsidies run against small-government conservative principles. This is nothing more than a government benefit program.
    • Ban new AI/data centers statewide
  • Conservatives typically favor business development, technological innovation, and economic growth. A statewide ban on a major industry is more regulatory than conservative in the traditional sense.
    • Raise teacher pay 25%
  • A state-mandated increase funded by government spending is not a traditionally limited-government position.
    • Offer a $1 billion prize to cure citrus greening
    Government-sponsored industrial policy or targeted subsidies is not free-market conservatism. It's populist more than anything.

    • Add tourism surcharges and taxes on out-of-state/luxury buyers to fund priorities
  • True conservatives prefer lower taxes. Creating new taxes to fund programs is generally not a traditionally conservative approach.



  • Golly you people ****ing hate the younger generation. You conserve nothing.

    It's sad you believe socialist policies are the only way to serve the younger generation. But I guess you're just like every other young liberal in history, in that regard.

    It should be obvious by now that socialism is NOT the way to go. It's never worked anywhere it's been tried. But if that's what you want, Fishback is your guy.

    I am glad to see you've dropped any pretense he's conservative.

    And now we know why Donalds won.

    He won bcs he'll do what Israel tells him to do.

    You support him because some guy named Paul 3000 years ago gave a poor metaphor about tree branches.
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    muddybrazos said:

    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    Mothra said:

    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    Mothra said:

    The_barBEARian said:

    boognish_bear said:




    Fishback won 18-35 (which is the most diverse demographic) but still only finished w/ 10%... its wild to me there are still so many damn Boomers.


    The largest voting blocker Gen Xers. Sounds like Fishback lost those big time.

    Anyone watching this new Fishback didn't have a chance. He's not even conservative.

    By the way, the primary is not a very diverse voting block just FYI. The general is.


    Fishback isn't conservative because he *checks notes* is anti-flock, anti data center, wants to divest from Israel, and shut down abortion centers?

    Looks like your notes were wrong.

    Let's take a look at the list you provided. These are his most anti-conservative positions, though several of the others you mentioned certainly wouldn't fall into the conservative category. These things were pretty easy to spot and basic for anyone who has a rudimentary understanding of what it means to be conservative:

    • Ban private equity, foreign buyers, and Airbnb speculators from buying single-family homes; force divestment of existing holdings.
  • Conservatives favor private property rights and free markets. Banning ownership by certain classes of buyers and forcing existing owners to sell is a significant government intervention in the market. This is closer to economic populism, nationalism, or even certain progressive housing proposals than traditional free-market conservatism.
    • $10,000 zero-interest down-payment assistance for qualifying young married couple.
  • Direct government subsidies run against small-government conservative principles. This is nothing more than a government benefit program.
    • Ban new AI/data centers statewide
  • Conservatives typically favor business development, technological innovation, and economic growth. A statewide ban on a major industry is more regulatory than conservative in the traditional sense.
    • Raise teacher pay 25%
  • A state-mandated increase funded by government spending is not a traditionally limited-government position.
    • Offer a $1 billion prize to cure citrus greening
    Government-sponsored industrial policy or targeted subsidies is not free-market conservatism. It's populist more than anything.

    • Add tourism surcharges and taxes on out-of-state/luxury buyers to fund priorities
  • True conservatives prefer lower taxes. Creating new taxes to fund programs is generally not a traditionally conservative approach.



  • Golly you people ****ing hate the younger generation. You conserve nothing.

    I dont agree that being a conservative means we are all just interchangeable wiidgets to drive GDP higher. Maybe thatrs why im a paleocon and not a neocon. I dont want endless indians coming here to replace us, AI data centers burning up our ground water, letting monsanto give us cancer with glyphosate and other chemicals etc. If previous generations had placed more of an emphasis on making our country great and not shipping jobs overseas and putting whole regions of the country out of business we wouldnt have to Make America Great Again.


    Well said, Muddy Brazos. My politics are whatever this position is. Putting AMERICANS first, not corporations and shareholders.
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    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    Robert Wilson said:

    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    boognish_bear said:




    Smart young men on the right are the future of this country, and they're all America Firsters. Just give us 10 years


    Lmao

    When foreign bots get to vote, you chuds will have it made.


    We'll have it made once you goyim are six feet under.

    Robert Wilson is a macho, ladies man, tough guy who puts nerds in lockers for criticizing hurricane victims needing to sign loyalty oaths to Israel before they receive aid from the state of Texas.

    Texas city requires no Israel boycott for hurricane relief

    Wait a minute... is Robert Wilson.... Mothra's son?
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    muddybrazos said:

    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    Mothra said:

    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    Mothra said:

    The_barBEARian said:

    boognish_bear said:




    Fishback won 18-35 (which is the most diverse demographic) but still only finished w/ 10%... its wild to me there are still so many damn Boomers.


    The largest voting blocker Gen Xers. Sounds like Fishback lost those big time.

    Anyone watching this new Fishback didn't have a chance. He's not even conservative.

    By the way, the primary is not a very diverse voting block just FYI. The general is.


    Fishback isn't conservative because he *checks notes* is anti-flock, anti data center, wants to divest from Israel, and shut down abortion centers?

    Looks like your notes were wrong.

    Let's take a look at the list you provided. These are his most anti-conservative positions, though several of the others you mentioned certainly wouldn't fall into the conservative category. These things were pretty easy to spot and basic for anyone who has a rudimentary understanding of what it means to be conservative:

    • Ban private equity, foreign buyers, and Airbnb speculators from buying single-family homes; force divestment of existing holdings.
  • Conservatives favor private property rights and free markets. Banning ownership by certain classes of buyers and forcing existing owners to sell is a significant government intervention in the market. This is closer to economic populism, nationalism, or even certain progressive housing proposals than traditional free-market conservatism.
    • $10,000 zero-interest down-payment assistance for qualifying young married couple.
  • Direct government subsidies run against small-government conservative principles. This is nothing more than a government benefit program.
    • Ban new AI/data centers statewide
  • Conservatives typically favor business development, technological innovation, and economic growth. A statewide ban on a major industry is more regulatory than conservative in the traditional sense.
    • Raise teacher pay 25%
  • A state-mandated increase funded by government spending is not a traditionally limited-government position.
    • Offer a $1 billion prize to cure citrus greening
    Government-sponsored industrial policy or targeted subsidies is not free-market conservatism. It's populist more than anything.

    • Add tourism surcharges and taxes on out-of-state/luxury buyers to fund priorities
  • True conservatives prefer lower taxes. Creating new taxes to fund programs is generally not a traditionally conservative approach.



  • Golly you people ****ing hate the younger generation. You conserve nothing.

    I dont agree that being a conservative means we are all just interchangeable wiidgets to drive GDP higher. Maybe thatrs why im a paleocon and not a neocon. I dont want endless indians coming here to replace us, AI data centers burning up our ground water, letting monsanto give us cancer with glyphosate and other chemicals etc. If previous generations had placed more of an emphasis on making our country great and not shipping jobs overseas and putting whole regions of the country out of business we wouldnt have to Make America Great Again.

    I don't disagree with any of this, and would describe myself as paleo-conservative. I believe in traditional paleo-conservative ideas, such as strong national pride, Christian values, traditional family and social roles, stopping immigration, and keeping the country out of foreign wars.

    But banning data centers outright, without weighing the costs? Banning investments in homes completely by private companies? Raising taxes? And providing welfare assistance? I would submit NONE of these are paleoconservative in nature.
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    The_barBEARian said:

    Mothra said:

    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    Mothra said:

    The_barBEARian said:

    boognish_bear said:




    Fishback won 18-35 (which is the most diverse demographic) but still only finished w/ 10%... its wild to me there are still so many damn Boomers.


    The largest voting blocker Gen Xers. Sounds like Fishback lost those big time.

    Anyone watching this new Fishback didn't have a chance. He's not even conservative.

    By the way, the primary is not a very diverse voting block just FYI. The general is.


    Fishback isn't conservative because he *checks notes* is anti-flock, anti data center, wants to divest from Israel, and shut down abortion centers?

    Looks like your notes were wrong.

    Let's take a look at the list you provided. These are his most anti-conservative positions, though several of the others you mentioned certainly wouldn't fall into the conservative category. These things were pretty easy to spot and basic for anyone who has a rudimentary understanding of what it means to be conservative:

    • Ban private equity, foreign buyers, and Airbnb speculators from buying single-family homes; force divestment of existing holdings.
  • Conservatives favor private property rights and free markets. Banning ownership by certain classes of buyers and forcing existing owners to sell is a significant government intervention in the market. This is closer to economic populism, nationalism, or even certain progressive housing proposals than traditional free-market conservatism.
    • $10,000 zero-interest down-payment assistance for qualifying young married couple.
  • Direct government subsidies run against small-government conservative principles. This is nothing more than a government benefit program.
    • Ban new AI/data centers statewide
  • Conservatives typically favor business development, technological innovation, and economic growth. A statewide ban on a major industry is more regulatory than conservative in the traditional sense.
    • Raise teacher pay 25%
  • A state-mandated increase funded by government spending is not a traditionally limited-government position.
    • Offer a $1 billion prize to cure citrus greening
    Government-sponsored industrial policy or targeted subsidies is not free-market conservatism. It's populist more than anything.

    • Add tourism surcharges and taxes on out-of-state/luxury buyers to fund priorities
  • True conservatives prefer lower taxes. Creating new taxes to fund programs is generally not a traditionally conservative approach.


  • You are confusing conservatism with libertarianism.

    This is what the "Fake Right" is... they are economic libertarians & social leftists masquerading as conservatives... except when is comes to Israel, then they are as totalitarian and unconstitutional as it gets.



    Absurd. Not raising taxes, limiting interfering in private industry and not providing govt. welfare are distinctly traditional conservativism, and always have been.
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    Robert Wilson said:

    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    boognish_bear said:




    Smart young men on the right are the future of this country, and they're all America Firsters. Just give us 10 years


    Lmao

    When foreign bots get to vote, you chuds will have it made.

    America is an Idiocracy so it actually makes sense you are content with it.
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    The_barBEARian said:

    Mothra said:

    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    Mothra said:

    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    Mothra said:

    The_barBEARian said:

    boognish_bear said:




    Fishback won 18-35 (which is the most diverse demographic) but still only finished w/ 10%... its wild to me there are still so many damn Boomers.


    The largest voting blocker Gen Xers. Sounds like Fishback lost those big time.

    Anyone watching this new Fishback didn't have a chance. He's not even conservative.

    By the way, the primary is not a very diverse voting block just FYI. The general is.


    Fishback isn't conservative because he *checks notes* is anti-flock, anti data center, wants to divest from Israel, and shut down abortion centers?

    Looks like your notes were wrong.

    Let's take a look at the list you provided. These are his most anti-conservative positions, though several of the others you mentioned certainly wouldn't fall into the conservative category. These things were pretty easy to spot and basic for anyone who has a rudimentary understanding of what it means to be conservative:

    • Ban private equity, foreign buyers, and Airbnb speculators from buying single-family homes; force divestment of existing holdings.
  • Conservatives favor private property rights and free markets. Banning ownership by certain classes of buyers and forcing existing owners to sell is a significant government intervention in the market. This is closer to economic populism, nationalism, or even certain progressive housing proposals than traditional free-market conservatism.
    • $10,000 zero-interest down-payment assistance for qualifying young married couple.
  • Direct government subsidies run against small-government conservative principles. This is nothing more than a government benefit program.
    • Ban new AI/data centers statewide
  • Conservatives typically favor business development, technological innovation, and economic growth. A statewide ban on a major industry is more regulatory than conservative in the traditional sense.
    • Raise teacher pay 25%
  • A state-mandated increase funded by government spending is not a traditionally limited-government position.
    • Offer a $1 billion prize to cure citrus greening
    Government-sponsored industrial policy or targeted subsidies is not free-market conservatism. It's populist more than anything.

    • Add tourism surcharges and taxes on out-of-state/luxury buyers to fund priorities
  • True conservatives prefer lower taxes. Creating new taxes to fund programs is generally not a traditionally conservative approach.



  • Golly you people ****ing hate the younger generation. You conserve nothing.

    It's sad you believe socialist policies are the only way to serve the younger generation. But I guess you're just like every other young liberal in history, in that regard.

    It should be obvious by now that socialism is NOT the way to go. It's never worked anywhere it's been tried. But if that's what you want, Fishback is your guy.

    I am glad to see you've dropped any pretense he's conservative.

    And now we know why Donalds won.

    He won bcs he'll do what Israel tells him to do.

    You support him because some guy named Paul 3000 years ago gave a poor metaphor about tree branches.

    There's that Jewish bogeyman again.

    It's always the Jews fault, of course.
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    The_barBEARian said:

    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    Robert Wilson said:

    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    boognish_bear said:




    Smart young men on the right are the future of this country, and they're all America Firsters. Just give us 10 years


    Lmao

    When foreign bots get to vote, you chuds will have it made.


    We'll have it made once you goyim are six feet under.

    Robert Wilson is a macho, ladies man, tough guy who puts nerds in lockers for criticizing hurricane victims needing to sign loyalty oaths to Israel before they receive aid from the state of Texas.

    Texas city requires no Israel boycott for hurricane relief

    Wait a minute... is Robert Wilson.... Mothra's son?

    I love it when you do this sort of thing. Signals you lost the argument.
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    Mothra said:

    The_barBEARian said:

    Mothra said:

    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    Mothra said:

    The_barBEARian said:

    boognish_bear said:




    Fishback won 18-35 (which is the most diverse demographic) but still only finished w/ 10%... its wild to me there are still so many damn Boomers.


    The largest voting blocker Gen Xers. Sounds like Fishback lost those big time.

    Anyone watching this new Fishback didn't have a chance. He's not even conservative.

    By the way, the primary is not a very diverse voting block just FYI. The general is.


    Fishback isn't conservative because he *checks notes* is anti-flock, anti data center, wants to divest from Israel, and shut down abortion centers?

    Looks like your notes were wrong.

    Let's take a look at the list you provided. These are his most anti-conservative positions, though several of the others you mentioned certainly wouldn't fall into the conservative category. These things were pretty easy to spot and basic for anyone who has a rudimentary understanding of what it means to be conservative:

    • Ban private equity, foreign buyers, and Airbnb speculators from buying single-family homes; force divestment of existing holdings.
  • Conservatives favor private property rights and free markets. Banning ownership by certain classes of buyers and forcing existing owners to sell is a significant government intervention in the market. This is closer to economic populism, nationalism, or even certain progressive housing proposals than traditional free-market conservatism.
    • $10,000 zero-interest down-payment assistance for qualifying young married couple.
  • Direct government subsidies run against small-government conservative principles. This is nothing more than a government benefit program.
    • Ban new AI/data centers statewide
  • Conservatives typically favor business development, technological innovation, and economic growth. A statewide ban on a major industry is more regulatory than conservative in the traditional sense.
    • Raise teacher pay 25%
  • A state-mandated increase funded by government spending is not a traditionally limited-government position.
    • Offer a $1 billion prize to cure citrus greening
    Government-sponsored industrial policy or targeted subsidies is not free-market conservatism. It's populist more than anything.

    • Add tourism surcharges and taxes on out-of-state/luxury buyers to fund priorities
  • True conservatives prefer lower taxes. Creating new taxes to fund programs is generally not a traditionally conservative approach.


  • You are confusing conservatism with libertarianism.

    This is what the "Fake Right" is... they are economic libertarians & social leftists masquerading as conservatives... except when is comes to Israel, then they are as totalitarian and unconstitutional as it gets.



    Absurd. Not raising taxes, limiting interfering in private industry and not providing govt. welfare are distinctly traditional conservativism, and always have been.


    I'll give you a hint the purpose of Conservatism is in the name.

    Fundamentally it's an ideology designed "to conserve."

    It certainly overlaps with some of your libertarian ideals but is not beholden to them.
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    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    muddybrazos said:

    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    Mothra said:

    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    Mothra said:

    The_barBEARian said:

    boognish_bear said:




    Fishback won 18-35 (which is the most diverse demographic) but still only finished w/ 10%... its wild to me there are still so many damn Boomers.


    The largest voting blocker Gen Xers. Sounds like Fishback lost those big time.

    Anyone watching this new Fishback didn't have a chance. He's not even conservative.

    By the way, the primary is not a very diverse voting block just FYI. The general is.


    Fishback isn't conservative because he *checks notes* is anti-flock, anti data center, wants to divest from Israel, and shut down abortion centers?

    Looks like your notes were wrong.

    Let's take a look at the list you provided. These are his most anti-conservative positions, though several of the others you mentioned certainly wouldn't fall into the conservative category. These things were pretty easy to spot and basic for anyone who has a rudimentary understanding of what it means to be conservative:

    • Ban private equity, foreign buyers, and Airbnb speculators from buying single-family homes; force divestment of existing holdings.
  • Conservatives favor private property rights and free markets. Banning ownership by certain classes of buyers and forcing existing owners to sell is a significant government intervention in the market. This is closer to economic populism, nationalism, or even certain progressive housing proposals than traditional free-market conservatism.
    • $10,000 zero-interest down-payment assistance for qualifying young married couple.
  • Direct government subsidies run against small-government conservative principles. This is nothing more than a government benefit program.
    • Ban new AI/data centers statewide
  • Conservatives typically favor business development, technological innovation, and economic growth. A statewide ban on a major industry is more regulatory than conservative in the traditional sense.
    • Raise teacher pay 25%
  • A state-mandated increase funded by government spending is not a traditionally limited-government position.
    • Offer a $1 billion prize to cure citrus greening
    Government-sponsored industrial policy or targeted subsidies is not free-market conservatism. It's populist more than anything.

    • Add tourism surcharges and taxes on out-of-state/luxury buyers to fund priorities
  • True conservatives prefer lower taxes. Creating new taxes to fund programs is generally not a traditionally conservative approach.



  • Golly you people ****ing hate the younger generation. You conserve nothing.

    I dont agree that being a conservative means we are all just interchangeable wiidgets to drive GDP higher. Maybe thatrs why im a paleocon and not a neocon. I dont want endless indians coming here to replace us, AI data centers burning up our ground water, letting monsanto give us cancer with glyphosate and other chemicals etc. If previous generations had placed more of an emphasis on making our country great and not shipping jobs overseas and putting whole regions of the country out of business we wouldnt have to Make America Great Again.


    Well said, Muddy Brazos. My politics are whatever this position is. Putting AMERICANS first, not corporations and shareholders.

    Even if that means substantial interference in private business, govt. subsidies, raising taxes and welfare? If so, your politics are not paleo-conservative.
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    The_barBEARian said:

    Mothra said:

    The_barBEARian said:

    Mothra said:

    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    Mothra said:

    The_barBEARian said:

    boognish_bear said:




    Fishback won 18-35 (which is the most diverse demographic) but still only finished w/ 10%... its wild to me there are still so many damn Boomers.


    The largest voting blocker Gen Xers. Sounds like Fishback lost those big time.

    Anyone watching this new Fishback didn't have a chance. He's not even conservative.

    By the way, the primary is not a very diverse voting block just FYI. The general is.


    Fishback isn't conservative because he *checks notes* is anti-flock, anti data center, wants to divest from Israel, and shut down abortion centers?

    Looks like your notes were wrong.

    Let's take a look at the list you provided. These are his most anti-conservative positions, though several of the others you mentioned certainly wouldn't fall into the conservative category. These things were pretty easy to spot and basic for anyone who has a rudimentary understanding of what it means to be conservative:

    • Ban private equity, foreign buyers, and Airbnb speculators from buying single-family homes; force divestment of existing holdings.
  • Conservatives favor private property rights and free markets. Banning ownership by certain classes of buyers and forcing existing owners to sell is a significant government intervention in the market. This is closer to economic populism, nationalism, or even certain progressive housing proposals than traditional free-market conservatism.
    • $10,000 zero-interest down-payment assistance for qualifying young married couple.
  • Direct government subsidies run against small-government conservative principles. This is nothing more than a government benefit program.
    • Ban new AI/data centers statewide
  • Conservatives typically favor business development, technological innovation, and economic growth. A statewide ban on a major industry is more regulatory than conservative in the traditional sense.
    • Raise teacher pay 25%
  • A state-mandated increase funded by government spending is not a traditionally limited-government position.
    • Offer a $1 billion prize to cure citrus greening
    Government-sponsored industrial policy or targeted subsidies is not free-market conservatism. It's populist more than anything.

    • Add tourism surcharges and taxes on out-of-state/luxury buyers to fund priorities
  • True conservatives prefer lower taxes. Creating new taxes to fund programs is generally not a traditionally conservative approach.


  • You are confusing conservatism with libertarianism.

    This is what the "Fake Right" is... they are economic libertarians & social leftists masquerading as conservatives... except when is comes to Israel, then they are as totalitarian and unconstitutional as it gets.



    Absurd. Not raising taxes, limiting interfering in private industry and not providing govt. welfare are distinctly traditional conservativism, and always have been.


    I'll give you a hint the purpose of Conservatism is in the name.

    Fundamentally it's an ideology designed "to conserve."

    It certainly overlaps with some of your libertarian ideals but is not beholden to them.

    I don't disagree with this, and am not suggesting no guardrails.

    What I take issue with is Fishback's positions. As suggested above, higher taxes, significant govt. interference in private industry, govt. subsidies and welfare are not conservative, by any stretch of the imagination.
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    Mothra said:

    muddybrazos said:

    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    Mothra said:

    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    Mothra said:

    The_barBEARian said:

    boognish_bear said:




    Fishback won 18-35 (which is the most diverse demographic) but still only finished w/ 10%... its wild to me there are still so many damn Boomers.


    The largest voting blocker Gen Xers. Sounds like Fishback lost those big time.

    Anyone watching this new Fishback didn't have a chance. He's not even conservative.

    By the way, the primary is not a very diverse voting block just FYI. The general is.


    Fishback isn't conservative because he *checks notes* is anti-flock, anti data center, wants to divest from Israel, and shut down abortion centers?

    Looks like your notes were wrong.

    Let's take a look at the list you provided. These are his most anti-conservative positions, though several of the others you mentioned certainly wouldn't fall into the conservative category. These things were pretty easy to spot and basic for anyone who has a rudimentary understanding of what it means to be conservative:

    • Ban private equity, foreign buyers, and Airbnb speculators from buying single-family homes; force divestment of existing holdings.
  • Conservatives favor private property rights and free markets. Banning ownership by certain classes of buyers and forcing existing owners to sell is a significant government intervention in the market. This is closer to economic populism, nationalism, or even certain progressive housing proposals than traditional free-market conservatism.
    • $10,000 zero-interest down-payment assistance for qualifying young married couple.
  • Direct government subsidies run against small-government conservative principles. This is nothing more than a government benefit program.
    • Ban new AI/data centers statewide
  • Conservatives typically favor business development, technological innovation, and economic growth. A statewide ban on a major industry is more regulatory than conservative in the traditional sense.
    • Raise teacher pay 25%
  • A state-mandated increase funded by government spending is not a traditionally limited-government position.
    • Offer a $1 billion prize to cure citrus greening
    Government-sponsored industrial policy or targeted subsidies is not free-market conservatism. It's populist more than anything.

    • Add tourism surcharges and taxes on out-of-state/luxury buyers to fund priorities
  • True conservatives prefer lower taxes. Creating new taxes to fund programs is generally not a traditionally conservative approach.



  • Golly you people ****ing hate the younger generation. You conserve nothing.

    I dont agree that being a conservative means we are all just interchangeable wiidgets to drive GDP higher. Maybe thatrs why im a paleocon and not a neocon. I dont want endless indians coming here to replace us, AI data centers burning up our ground water, letting monsanto give us cancer with glyphosate and other chemicals etc. If previous generations had placed more of an emphasis on making our country great and not shipping jobs overseas and putting whole regions of the country out of business we wouldnt have to Make America Great Again.

    I don't disagree with any of this, and would describe myself as paleo-conservative. I believe in traditional paleo-conservative ideas, such as strong national pride, Christian values, traditional family and social roles, stopping immigration, and keeping the country out of foreign wars.

    But banning data centers outright, without weighing the costs? Banning investments in homes completely by private companies? Raising taxes? And providing welfare assistance? I would submit NONE of these are paleoconservative in nature.


    I dont know about banning data centers all together but I know I dont want to live near one and if its in a drought prone place like Arizona or Texas there may need to be some environmental restrictions. I dont agree with PE firms or mega firms like Blackrock being able to buy up all of the housing and outbid normal famlies. That shouldnt be allowed imo. I dont have a problem with landlords and second home buyers but they should pay higher property taxes than primary residents. Thats how it is here in SC. If you have a vacation home you pay about triple the property taxes. Our property taxes on homes is still pretty low compared to Texas, though.

    I get into this discussion with my stepdad all the time bc he is a Ayn Rand capitalist and I tell him how I would rather be like a Henry Ford or Hershey that wants to provide a good place to work and nice place to live for my employees than for me personally be the richest man in the world. I would rather make a little less per year and have a nice town than to ship jobs overseas and put everyone out of work where I live so I can just have more money.
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    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    Mothra said:

    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    Mothra said:

    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    Mothra said:

    The_barBEARian said:

    boognish_bear said:




    Fishback won 18-35 (which is the most diverse demographic) but still only finished w/ 10%... its wild to me there are still so many damn Boomers.


    The largest voting blocker Gen Xers. Sounds like Fishback lost those big time.

    Anyone watching this new Fishback didn't have a chance. He's not even conservative.

    By the way, the primary is not a very diverse voting block just FYI. The general is.


    Fishback isn't conservative because he *checks notes* is anti-flock, anti data center, wants to divest from Israel, and shut down abortion centers?

    Looks like your notes were wrong.

    Let's take a look at the list you provided. These are his most anti-conservative positions, though several of the others you mentioned certainly wouldn't fall into the conservative category. These things were pretty easy to spot and basic for anyone who has a rudimentary understanding of what it means to be conservative:

    • Ban private equity, foreign buyers, and Airbnb speculators from buying single-family homes; force divestment of existing holdings.
  • Conservatives favor private property rights and free markets. Banning ownership by certain classes of buyers and forcing existing owners to sell is a significant government intervention in the market. This is closer to economic populism, nationalism, or even certain progressive housing proposals than traditional free-market conservatism.
    • $10,000 zero-interest down-payment assistance for qualifying young married couple.
  • Direct government subsidies run against small-government conservative principles. This is nothing more than a government benefit program.
    • Ban new AI/data centers statewide
  • Conservatives typically favor business development, technological innovation, and economic growth. A statewide ban on a major industry is more regulatory than conservative in the traditional sense.
    • Raise teacher pay 25%
  • A state-mandated increase funded by government spending is not a traditionally limited-government position.
    • Offer a $1 billion prize to cure citrus greening
    Government-sponsored industrial policy or targeted subsidies is not free-market conservatism. It's populist more than anything.

    • Add tourism surcharges and taxes on out-of-state/luxury buyers to fund priorities
  • True conservatives prefer lower taxes. Creating new taxes to fund programs is generally not a traditionally conservative approach.



  • Golly you people ****ing hate the younger generation. You conserve nothing.

    It's sad you believe socialist policies are the only way to serve the younger generation. But I guess you're just like every other young liberal in history, in that regard.

    It should be obvious by now that socialism is NOT the way to go. It's never worked anywhere it's been tried. But if that's what you want, Fishback is your guy.

    I am glad to see you've dropped any pretense he's conservative.

    And now we know why Donalds won.


    Raising teacher pay is not socialist, ******.

    But yea, whatever. I don't care what your personal definition is of a conservative, the general consensus is that Fishback is right wing, which is what I care about.

    Right wing is a very broad category that includes fascism. If I were you, I would care more about him merely being "right wing."
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    muddybrazos said:

    Mothra said:

    muddybrazos said:

    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    Mothra said:

    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    Mothra said:

    The_barBEARian said:

    boognish_bear said:




    Fishback won 18-35 (which is the most diverse demographic) but still only finished w/ 10%... its wild to me there are still so many damn Boomers.


    The largest voting blocker Gen Xers. Sounds like Fishback lost those big time.

    Anyone watching this new Fishback didn't have a chance. He's not even conservative.

    By the way, the primary is not a very diverse voting block just FYI. The general is.


    Fishback isn't conservative because he *checks notes* is anti-flock, anti data center, wants to divest from Israel, and shut down abortion centers?

    Looks like your notes were wrong.

    Let's take a look at the list you provided. These are his most anti-conservative positions, though several of the others you mentioned certainly wouldn't fall into the conservative category. These things were pretty easy to spot and basic for anyone who has a rudimentary understanding of what it means to be conservative:

    • Ban private equity, foreign buyers, and Airbnb speculators from buying single-family homes; force divestment of existing holdings.
  • Conservatives favor private property rights and free markets. Banning ownership by certain classes of buyers and forcing existing owners to sell is a significant government intervention in the market. This is closer to economic populism, nationalism, or even certain progressive housing proposals than traditional free-market conservatism.
    • $10,000 zero-interest down-payment assistance for qualifying young married couple.
  • Direct government subsidies run against small-government conservative principles. This is nothing more than a government benefit program.
    • Ban new AI/data centers statewide
  • Conservatives typically favor business development, technological innovation, and economic growth. A statewide ban on a major industry is more regulatory than conservative in the traditional sense.
    • Raise teacher pay 25%
  • A state-mandated increase funded by government spending is not a traditionally limited-government position.
    • Offer a $1 billion prize to cure citrus greening
    Government-sponsored industrial policy or targeted subsidies is not free-market conservatism. It's populist more than anything.

    • Add tourism surcharges and taxes on out-of-state/luxury buyers to fund priorities
  • True conservatives prefer lower taxes. Creating new taxes to fund programs is generally not a traditionally conservative approach.



  • Golly you people ****ing hate the younger generation. You conserve nothing.

    I dont agree that being a conservative means we are all just interchangeable wiidgets to drive GDP higher. Maybe thatrs why im a paleocon and not a neocon. I dont want endless indians coming here to replace us, AI data centers burning up our ground water, letting monsanto give us cancer with glyphosate and other chemicals etc. If previous generations had placed more of an emphasis on making our country great and not shipping jobs overseas and putting whole regions of the country out of business we wouldnt have to Make America Great Again.

    I don't disagree with any of this, and would describe myself as paleo-conservative. I believe in traditional paleo-conservative ideas, such as strong national pride, Christian values, traditional family and social roles, stopping immigration, and keeping the country out of foreign wars.

    But banning data centers outright, without weighing the costs? Banning investments in homes completely by private companies? Raising taxes? And providing welfare assistance? I would submit NONE of these are paleoconservative in nature.


    I dont know about banning data centers all together but I know I dont want to live near one and if its in a drought prone place like Arizona or Texas there may need to be some environmental restrictions. I dont agree with PE firms or mega firms like Blackrock being able to buy up all of the housing and outbid normal famlies. That shouldnt be allowed imo. I dont have a problem with landlords and second home buyers but they should pay higher property taxes than primary residents. Thats how it is here in SC. If you have a vacation home you pay about triple the property taxes. Our property taxes on homes is still pretty low compared to Texas, though.

    I get into this discussion with my stepdad all the time bc he is a Ayn Rand campitalist and I tell him how I would rather be like a Henry Ford or Hershey that wants to provide a good place to work and nice place to live for my employees than for me personally be the richest man in the world.

    We are in agreement on this. Each of these are reasonable positions.

    Not an Ayn Rand capitalist, but quite frankly, I am not sure I would even describe such capitalism as conservative.
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    muddybrazos said:

    Mothra said:

    muddybrazos said:

    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    Mothra said:

    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    Mothra said:

    The_barBEARian said:

    boognish_bear said:




    Fishback won 18-35 (which is the most diverse demographic) but still only finished w/ 10%... its wild to me there are still so many damn Boomers.


    The largest voting blocker Gen Xers. Sounds like Fishback lost those big time.

    Anyone watching this new Fishback didn't have a chance. He's not even conservative.

    By the way, the primary is not a very diverse voting block just FYI. The general is.


    Fishback isn't conservative because he *checks notes* is anti-flock, anti data center, wants to divest from Israel, and shut down abortion centers?

    Looks like your notes were wrong.

    Let's take a look at the list you provided. These are his most anti-conservative positions, though several of the others you mentioned certainly wouldn't fall into the conservative category. These things were pretty easy to spot and basic for anyone who has a rudimentary understanding of what it means to be conservative:

    • Ban private equity, foreign buyers, and Airbnb speculators from buying single-family homes; force divestment of existing holdings.
  • Conservatives favor private property rights and free markets. Banning ownership by certain classes of buyers and forcing existing owners to sell is a significant government intervention in the market. This is closer to economic populism, nationalism, or even certain progressive housing proposals than traditional free-market conservatism.
    • $10,000 zero-interest down-payment assistance for qualifying young married couple.
  • Direct government subsidies run against small-government conservative principles. This is nothing more than a government benefit program.
    • Ban new AI/data centers statewide
  • Conservatives typically favor business development, technological innovation, and economic growth. A statewide ban on a major industry is more regulatory than conservative in the traditional sense.
    • Raise teacher pay 25%
  • A state-mandated increase funded by government spending is not a traditionally limited-government position.
    • Offer a $1 billion prize to cure citrus greening
    Government-sponsored industrial policy or targeted subsidies is not free-market conservatism. It's populist more than anything.

    • Add tourism surcharges and taxes on out-of-state/luxury buyers to fund priorities
  • True conservatives prefer lower taxes. Creating new taxes to fund programs is generally not a traditionally conservative approach.



  • Golly you people ****ing hate the younger generation. You conserve nothing.

    I dont agree that being a conservative means we are all just interchangeable wiidgets to drive GDP higher. Maybe thatrs why im a paleocon and not a neocon. I dont want endless indians coming here to replace us, AI data centers burning up our ground water, letting monsanto give us cancer with glyphosate and other chemicals etc. If previous generations had placed more of an emphasis on making our country great and not shipping jobs overseas and putting whole regions of the country out of business we wouldnt have to Make America Great Again.

    I don't disagree with any of this, and would describe myself as paleo-conservative. I believe in traditional paleo-conservative ideas, such as strong national pride, Christian values, traditional family and social roles, stopping immigration, and keeping the country out of foreign wars.

    But banning data centers outright, without weighing the costs? Banning investments in homes completely by private companies? Raising taxes? And providing welfare assistance? I would submit NONE of these are paleoconservative in nature.


    I dont know about banning data centers all together but I know I dont want to live near one and if its in a drought prone place like Arizona or Texas there may need to be some environmental restrictions. I dont agree with PE firms or mega firms like Blackrock being able to buy up all of the housing and outbid normal famlies. That shouldnt be allowed imo. I dont have a problem with landlords and second home buyers but they should pay higher property taxes than primary residents. Thats how it is here in SC. If you have a vacation home you pay about triple the property taxes. Our property taxes on homes is still pretty low compared to Texas, though.

    I get into this discussion with my stepdad all the time bc he is a Ayn Rand capitalist and I tell him how I would rather be like a Henry Ford or Hershey that wants to provide a good place to work and nice place to live for my employees than for me personally be the richest man in the world. I would rather make a little less per year and have a nice town than to ship jobs overseas and put everyone out of work where I live so I can just have more money.


    South Carolina could put you in the Senate... instead we get... *checks notes*... Lyndsey Graham's sister?!?!?.... Nothing to see here. This country is completely normal. Definitely not a giant scam with a red, white, and blue facade...
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    Mothra said:

    BigGameBaylorBear said:

    muddybrazos said:

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    Fishback won 18-35 (which is the most diverse demographic) but still only finished w/ 10%... its wild to me there are still so many damn Boomers.


    The largest voting blocker Gen Xers. Sounds like Fishback lost those big time.

    Anyone watching this new Fishback didn't have a chance. He's not even conservative.

    By the way, the primary is not a very diverse voting block just FYI. The general is.


    Fishback isn't conservative because he *checks notes* is anti-flock, anti data center, wants to divest from Israel, and shut down abortion centers?

    Looks like your notes were wrong.

    Let's take a look at the list you provided. These are his most anti-conservative positions, though several of the others you mentioned certainly wouldn't fall into the conservative category. These things were pretty easy to spot and basic for anyone who has a rudimentary understanding of what it means to be conservative:

    • Ban private equity, foreign buyers, and Airbnb speculators from buying single-family homes; force divestment of existing holdings.
  • Conservatives favor private property rights and free markets. Banning ownership by certain classes of buyers and forcing existing owners to sell is a significant government intervention in the market. This is closer to economic populism, nationalism, or even certain progressive housing proposals than traditional free-market conservatism.
    • $10,000 zero-interest down-payment assistance for qualifying young married couple.
  • Direct government subsidies run against small-government conservative principles. This is nothing more than a government benefit program.
    • Ban new AI/data centers statewide
  • Conservatives typically favor business development, technological innovation, and economic growth. A statewide ban on a major industry is more regulatory than conservative in the traditional sense.
    • Raise teacher pay 25%
  • A state-mandated increase funded by government spending is not a traditionally limited-government position.
    • Offer a $1 billion prize to cure citrus greening
    Government-sponsored industrial policy or targeted subsidies is not free-market conservatism. It's populist more than anything.

    • Add tourism surcharges and taxes on out-of-state/luxury buyers to fund priorities
  • True conservatives prefer lower taxes. Creating new taxes to fund programs is generally not a traditionally conservative approach.



  • Golly you people ****ing hate the younger generation. You conserve nothing.

    I dont agree that being a conservative means we are all just interchangeable wiidgets to drive GDP higher. Maybe thatrs why im a paleocon and not a neocon. I dont want endless indians coming here to replace us, AI data centers burning up our ground water, letting monsanto give us cancer with glyphosate and other chemicals etc. If previous generations had placed more of an emphasis on making our country great and not shipping jobs overseas and putting whole regions of the country out of business we wouldnt have to Make America Great Again.


    Well said, Muddy Brazos. My politics are whatever this position is. Putting AMERICANS first, not corporations and shareholders.

    Even if that means substantial interference in private business, govt. subsidies, raising taxes and welfare? If so, your politics are not paleo-conservative.


    I am more concerned with Corporations having interference in our elections via lobbying. Corporations act in their own best interests, aka their shareholders. This can come at the expense of those outside of said organization, normal Americans.

    If we could set up guard rails to protect our elections from this kind of influence, I would be more of a free-market capitalist. But Trickle-down economics does not work, for the most part.
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    The_barBEARian said:

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    Fishback won 18-35 (which is the most diverse demographic) but still only finished w/ 10%... its wild to me there are still so many damn Boomers.


    The largest voting blocker Gen Xers. Sounds like Fishback lost those big time.

    Anyone watching this new Fishback didn't have a chance. He's not even conservative.

    By the way, the primary is not a very diverse voting block just FYI. The general is.


    Fishback isn't conservative because he *checks notes* is anti-flock, anti data center, wants to divest from Israel, and shut down abortion centers?

    Looks like your notes were wrong.

    Let's take a look at the list you provided. These are his most anti-conservative positions, though several of the others you mentioned certainly wouldn't fall into the conservative category. These things were pretty easy to spot and basic for anyone who has a rudimentary understanding of what it means to be conservative:

    • Ban private equity, foreign buyers, and Airbnb speculators from buying single-family homes; force divestment of existing holdings.
  • Conservatives favor private property rights and free markets. Banning ownership by certain classes of buyers and forcing existing owners to sell is a significant government intervention in the market. This is closer to economic populism, nationalism, or even certain progressive housing proposals than traditional free-market conservatism.
    • $10,000 zero-interest down-payment assistance for qualifying young married couple.
  • Direct government subsidies run against small-government conservative principles. This is nothing more than a government benefit program.
    • Ban new AI/data centers statewide
  • Conservatives typically favor business development, technological innovation, and economic growth. A statewide ban on a major industry is more regulatory than conservative in the traditional sense.
    • Raise teacher pay 25%
  • A state-mandated increase funded by government spending is not a traditionally limited-government position.
    • Offer a $1 billion prize to cure citrus greening
    Government-sponsored industrial policy or targeted subsidies is not free-market conservatism. It's populist more than anything.

    • Add tourism surcharges and taxes on out-of-state/luxury buyers to fund priorities
  • True conservatives prefer lower taxes. Creating new taxes to fund programs is generally not a traditionally conservative approach.



  • Golly you people ****ing hate the younger generation. You conserve nothing.

    I dont agree that being a conservative means we are all just interchangeable wiidgets to drive GDP higher. Maybe thatrs why im a paleocon and not a neocon. I dont want endless indians coming here to replace us, AI data centers burning up our ground water, letting monsanto give us cancer with glyphosate and other chemicals etc. If previous generations had placed more of an emphasis on making our country great and not shipping jobs overseas and putting whole regions of the country out of business we wouldnt have to Make America Great Again.

    I don't disagree with any of this, and would describe myself as paleo-conservative. I believe in traditional paleo-conservative ideas, such as strong national pride, Christian values, traditional family and social roles, stopping immigration, and keeping the country out of foreign wars.

    But banning data centers outright, without weighing the costs? Banning investments in homes completely by private companies? Raising taxes? And providing welfare assistance? I would submit NONE of these are paleoconservative in nature.


    I dont know about banning data centers all together but I know I dont want to live near one and if its in a drought prone place like Arizona or Texas there may need to be some environmental restrictions. I dont agree with PE firms or mega firms like Blackrock being able to buy up all of the housing and outbid normal famlies. That shouldnt be allowed imo. I dont have a problem with landlords and second home buyers but they should pay higher property taxes than primary residents. Thats how it is here in SC. If you have a vacation home you pay about triple the property taxes. Our property taxes on homes is still pretty low compared to Texas, though.

    I get into this discussion with my stepdad all the time bc he is a Ayn Rand capitalist and I tell him how I would rather be like a Henry Ford or Hershey that wants to provide a good place to work and nice place to live for my employees than for me personally be the richest man in the world. I would rather make a little less per year and have a nice town than to ship jobs overseas and put everyone out of work where I live so I can just have more money.


    South Carolina could put you in the Senate... instead we get... *checks notes*... Lyndsey Graham's sister?!?!?.... Nothing to see here. This country is completely normal. Definitely not a giant scam with a red, white, and blue facade...

    We will probably get Ralph Norman hopefully. Darline has the name but she dropped her married name just for this.
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    Definitely proof of your claim that all Jews are bad Jews. They deserve collective guilt based on this one man's actions.
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    Sam Lowry said:

    I don't see Fishback having a future on the big stage, just because he seems creepy and a bit unstable. Of course Trump is too, but he's also wealthy and an ignoramus, which boosts his appeal considerably among a wide swath of Republicans. Fishback has some of the anti-immigrant extremism that seems to appeal to the youth, but there's always someone more extreme waiting in the wings. He has a long row to hoe if he's going to get anywhere.


    People obviously either love or hate Trump… but he's got a bigger than life personality where he can get away with a lot of things others can't.... Fishback doesn't have that.
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    First, let's start with the obvious: you falsely presented the quote in your previous post as an "Islamic teaching" and then attempted to ridicule me for not recognizing it as a passage from the Mishnah?


    Yes. Someone who was capable of discussing these issues at a high level would have recognized that the acceptable age for pedophilia in Islam is 9 and in Judaism is 3. You didn't. This isn't some obscure detail that isn't well known. Well maybe it's not well known in "Judeo-Christian" circles. You don't know enough about either religion to be discussing these matters.

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    The irony is that you quoted Amos as though it supports your attitude. It doesn't. God's judgment on Israel is not a license for Gentiles to despise Israel. So no, I am not defending Judaism, and never have. I am defending the teaching of Romans 9-11 against the anti-Jewish contempt that Paul explicitly condemns.


    So in your opinion is it mandatory to love Israel, the Jews, or both? Because Paul in Romans is discussing Jews, and in Amos God is condemning the nation of Israel.

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    P.S. You have an uncanny ability to ignore portions of the post that refute your bull ***** Is it cowardice? Or am I going to get a response to the questions posed in my last post re: Fishback?



    With regards to Fishback, it's quite simple. You accept a discredited allegation by an ex-girlfriend because you don't like his attitude about Israel. There's really nothing to discuss there. At any rate, the primary is over and as a consequence so is Dr. Ladapo's excellent work as the Surgeon General of Florida as both Jolly and Donalds are going to replace him. Tempus will be celebrating, because the end of Florida as the sanctuary state from Covid insanity is now inevitable. Hopefully installing AIPAC Shakur as the candidate was worth that.

    The first poll is out, and David Jolly has a small lead over Byron Donalds. I suspect he's going to win the election.
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