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In reply to Wangchung • 11:40a, 11/7/25
Wangchung said:
Also close to 85% racially homogeneous demographics thanks to strict immigration laws, but globalists don't like to talk about that part.


Yea.....and States that were close to 95%+ homogeneous about 20-40 years back


[In 1990, the Netherlands had a total population of approximately 15 million people, with around 96% being ethnic Dutch. This means the ethnic Dutch population was about 14.4 million]

And I would assume a large part of that non-Dutch population living there in 1990 was Jewish, German, Belgian, French, etc.

A lot of cultural solidarity, harsh social consequences to freeloading, and a general high trust society that assumed correctly that the vast majority would play by the rules, work hard, and not take advantage of the tax payer supported safety net.
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In reply to Aliceinbubbleland • 12:28p, 11/7/25
Aliceinbubbleland said:
And another viewpoint...



China is NOT a success though. They push a narrative and only show you that part. Like when they rebuilt half a city basically to make it look neat, rich, and clean before an Olympics and forcefully moved all the poor and homeless out.

Or when you go to many parts of the country and people still live in poverty.

The downtown sections of their big cities are all new fancy places but not the rest of their cities. They still have plenty of poor people. They just fancy everything up to make stats look impressive like 90% home ownership when it isn't a home it is an apartment and they don't really own it.

Or how much of their country actually receives a poor education but their top performers get a great education.

Or many other areas we could look at to show that it failed. It has been a smashing success for a small group and has evolved into some weird socialist government that allows capitalism in certain areas and allowed some people to become extremely wealthy while leaving the rest behind.
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In reply to Waco1947 • 12:29p, 11/7/25
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Aliceinbubbleland said:
And another viewpoint...


Democratic Socialism worked in:
France, Netherlands, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Switzerland, etc

Mamdani is not a communist, but keep lying to yourself because it seems to comfort you.



Umm no it didn't.
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In reply to cowboycwr • 1:35p, 11/7/25
cowboycwr said:
Waco1947 said:
Aliceinbubbleland said:
And another viewpoint...


Democratic Socialism worked in:
France, Netherlands, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Switzerland, etc

Mamdani is not a communist, but keep lying to yourself because it seems to comfort you.



Umm no it didn't.


I will have to find the quote but it was something along the lines of

"If Koreans and Germans can't make socialism work…no one can"
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In reply to KaiBear • 2:00p, 11/7/25
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Chuck Schumer, Trump, Vance and Gavin Newsom would all like to think so.

But AOC, Bernie , and Karen Bass all know better.

The NYC Muslim is leading a New Democratic Party.



Noonan:

Republicans should understand Mr. Mamdani isn't your bogeyman to use for your electoral amusement. You think you're going to make him "the face of the Democratic Party," in that stupid phrase, and everyone will hate Democrats and you'll profit without even trying. But he's cleverer than you, he understands the world of right now better, and in any case he has an ideology he swallowed whole, at father's knee, with mother's milk, and has fully absorbed and digested. He thinks he knows his historical meaning. Do you?
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In reply to Osodecentx • 2:12p, 11/7/25
Osodecentx said:
KaiBear said:
Chuck Schumer, Trump, Vance and Gavin Newsom would all like to think so.

But AOC, Bernie , and Karen Bass all know better.

The NYC Muslim is leading a New Democratic Party.



Noonan:

Republicans should understand Mr. Mamdani isn't your bogeyman to use for your electoral amusement. You think you're going to make him "the face of the Democratic Party," in that stupid phrase, and everyone will hate Democrats and you'll profit without even trying. But he's cleverer than you, he understands the world of right now better, and in any case he has an ideology he swallowed whole, at father's knee, with mother's milk, and has fully absorbed and digested. He thinks he knows his historical meaning. Do you?
Peggy Noonan. Lol
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

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2:21p, 11/7/25
NYC will be renamed New Mecca.
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In reply to cowboycwr • 2:33p, 11/7/25
cowboycwr said:
Aliceinbubbleland said:
And another viewpoint...



China is NOT a success though.


"The Peoples Republic of China (PRC) is the least successful ethnic Chinese populated country"

Yep....its true.

Countries/City-states that are majority ethnic Chinese.....Taiwan, Singapore, Hong Kong, Macau, China (PRC)

Even though the Peoples Republic of China has the most resources by far and the largest population of workers and tax payers.

Socialism has kept what should easily be the richest Chinese State...the poorest per capita...and the most tyrannical & unfree
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In reply to Osodecentx • 2:41p, 11/7/25
Osodecentx said:
KaiBear said:
Chuck Schumer, Trump, Vance and Gavin Newsom would all like to think so.

But AOC, Bernie , and Karen Bass all know better.

The NYC Muslim is leading a New Democratic Party.



Noonan:

Republicans should understand Mr. Mamdani isn't your bogeyman to use for your electoral amusement. You think you're going to make him "the face of the Democratic Party," in that stupid phrase, and everyone will hate Democrats and you'll profit without even trying. But he's cleverer than you, he understands the world of right now better, and in any case he has an ideology he swallowed whole, at father's knee, with mother's milk, and has fully absorbed and digested. He thinks he knows his historical meaning. Do you?

Still remember when almost everyone here was under estimating AOC. I kept saying she had a bright future.....and absolutely does. Probably will be the next senator from New York.

And this young Muslim has huge potential as well. Got looks. money and game.

Besides, demographics don't lie....and Christian, white, conservatives are disappearing generation by generation.
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In reply to KaiBear • 2:52p, 11/7/25
KaiBear said:
Osodecentx said:
KaiBear said:
Chuck Schumer, Trump, Vance and Gavin Newsom would all like to think so.

But AOC, Bernie , and Karen Bass all know better.

The NYC Muslim is leading a New Democratic Party.



Noonan:

Republicans should understand Mr. Mamdani isn't your bogeyman to use for your electoral amusement. You think you're going to make him "the face of the Democratic Party," in that stupid phrase, and everyone will hate Democrats and you'll profit without even trying. But he's cleverer than you, he understands the world of right now better, and in any case he has an ideology he swallowed whole, at father's knee, with mother's milk, and has fully absorbed and digested. He thinks he knows his historical meaning. Do you?

Still remember when almost everyone here was under estimating AOC. I kept saying she had a bright future.....and absolutely does. Probably will be the next senator from New York.

And this young Muslim has huge potential as well. Got looks. money and game.

Besides, demographics don't lie....and Christian, white, conservatives are disappearing generation by generation.


Yep

The GOP will raise money on him as a danger....and yet then do nothing to stop the rise of his brand of 3rd world socialism.....and do nothing to stop the deteriorating economic & cultural conditions of the younger generation.

They certainly will not stop mass immigration

Perfect for Republican Inc. funding raising
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In reply to GrowlTowel • 3:45p, 11/7/25
GrowlTowel said:
FLBear5630 said:
GrowlTowel said:
FLBear5630 said:
TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
FLBear5630 said:
BearFan33 said:
So I guess the game plan is to find a sympathetic judge and sue his administration every time he tries to do something. Heck sue him for no particular reason at all. Keep him tied in court for 4 years and maybe NYC survives. This is how we do things in America these days,

He is not getting that agenda through. I may expand the rent control zones to more accurately reflect today versus the 60's when they were set up. He may destroy a park or two. But, nothing that can't be dealt with. Keeping the processes in place is important, you start changing because you like someone or what they are doing and then people like this can do real damage. Wish MAGA would get that...


You wish MAGA would get that? You're a smart guy but you're so lost in a make believe world sometimes.
Here is reality... Dems will use absolutely everything in their power to advance their dystopia. Maga is the only thing stopping them. This environment is now about doing everything right now and making it so it's hard for the other side to undo. That is how the Dems have been playing, and it's way past time that the Repubs recognize that they are in a fight to save the American Dream and have to do the same. There is no other way because in addition to using the system, the Dems will also lie, cheat and steal to win. We have to fight to win. It's not a perfect movement, but we should all thank God for Maga. Globalist run dystopia is their end game, we're the only one fighting the globalist tide.


who is living in a make believe world here? Trump lost because he f-ed up COVID and shut down the economy. Biden lost because he f-ed up and did a **** job. no plots. he lost. Trump. will lose Congress because he went full Authoritarian. no plots, no schemes.



So to summarize, Democrats being democrats wins them elections but Republicans using the same democrat tactics also causes Democrats to win?

I know you long for the days of the republicans being doormats to left with such great, charismatic leaders like Jeb!, Bob Dole, John McCain, and the timeless Mitt Romney. But those days are thankfully over.


you see what you want to see. i also said Biden list because sucked. performance gets u re elected. Trump and Biden did not perform and lost. Trump is going to give the Dems a dream platform, they can take high ground on pretty much every issue people care about, health care, jobs, food programs, Democracy, environment, education, cost of living the list goes on. He is giving them a dream platform.


They have that in every election cycle. Every one.

You need something else to worry about.

Republicans lose when they fail to govern as republicans. People didn't elect Trump to get along with the party that is actively destroying our culture and civilization.


you are mistaking culture and civilization with kitchen table, laying off millions, not funding 42 million people in SNAP, reducing flights so that 800 flights are cancelled, allowing their health insurance to skyrocket or denying that millions need and use Obamacare. Those are lifestyle issues that people will blame Trump, not the Dems. This is where the harsh rhetoric hurts.
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 3:52p, 11/7/25
FLBear5630 said:
GrowlTowel said:
FLBear5630 said:
GrowlTowel said:
FLBear5630 said:
TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
FLBear5630 said:
BearFan33 said:
So I guess the game plan is to find a sympathetic judge and sue his administration every time he tries to do something. Heck sue him for no particular reason at all. Keep him tied in court for 4 years and maybe NYC survives. This is how we do things in America these days,

He is not getting that agenda through. I may expand the rent control zones to more accurately reflect today versus the 60's when they were set up. He may destroy a park or two. But, nothing that can't be dealt with. Keeping the processes in place is important, you start changing because you like someone or what they are doing and then people like this can do real damage. Wish MAGA would get that...


You wish MAGA would get that? You're a smart guy but you're so lost in a make believe world sometimes.
Here is reality... Dems will use absolutely everything in their power to advance their dystopia. Maga is the only thing stopping them. This environment is now about doing everything right now and making it so it's hard for the other side to undo. That is how the Dems have been playing, and it's way past time that the Repubs recognize that they are in a fight to save the American Dream and have to do the same. There is no other way because in addition to using the system, the Dems will also lie, cheat and steal to win. We have to fight to win. It's not a perfect movement, but we should all thank God for Maga. Globalist run dystopia is their end game, we're the only one fighting the globalist tide.


who is living in a make believe world here? Trump lost because he f-ed up COVID and shut down the economy. Biden lost because he f-ed up and did a **** job. no plots. he lost. Trump. will lose Congress because he went full Authoritarian. no plots, no schemes.



So to summarize, Democrats being democrats wins them elections but Republicans using the same democrat tactics also causes Democrats to win?

I know you long for the days of the republicans being doormats to left with such great, charismatic leaders like Jeb!, Bob Dole, John McCain, and the timeless Mitt Romney. But those days are thankfully over.


you see what you want to see. i also said Biden list because sucked. performance gets u re elected. Trump and Biden did not perform and lost. Trump is going to give the Dems a dream platform, they can take high ground on pretty much every issue people care about, health care, jobs, food programs, Democracy, environment, education, cost of living the list goes on. He is giving them a dream platform.


They have that in every election cycle. Every one.

You need something else to worry about.

Republicans lose when they fail to govern as republicans. People didn't elect Trump to get along with the party that is actively destroying our culture and civilization.


you are mistaking culture and civilization with kitchen table, laying off millions, not funding 42 million people in SNAP, reducing flights so that 800 flights are cancelled, allowing their health insurance to skyrocket or denying that millions need and use Obamacare. Those are lifestyle issues that people will blame Trump, not the Dems. This is where the harsh rhetoric hurts.


Corporate American outsourcing jobs and immigration scams like H-1B visas is what is responsible for laying off millions.

And if Trump gets the blame for lack of SNAP (food stamps) or reducing flights....that is unfair since its because the Democratic party in Congress refuses to pass a budget and fund the government.

Obamacare is also directly responsible for raising health care costs....not reducing them.
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In reply to Redbrickbear • 5:25p, 11/7/25
Redbrickbear said:
FLBear5630 said:
GrowlTowel said:
FLBear5630 said:
GrowlTowel said:
FLBear5630 said:
TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
FLBear5630 said:
BearFan33 said:
So I guess the game plan is to find a sympathetic judge and sue his administration every time he tries to do something. Heck sue him for no particular reason at all. Keep him tied in court for 4 years and maybe NYC survives. This is how we do things in America these days,

He is not getting that agenda through. I may expand the rent control zones to more accurately reflect today versus the 60's when they were set up. He may destroy a park or two. But, nothing that can't be dealt with. Keeping the processes in place is important, you start changing because you like someone or what they are doing and then people like this can do real damage. Wish MAGA would get that...


You wish MAGA would get that? You're a smart guy but you're so lost in a make believe world sometimes.
Here is reality... Dems will use absolutely everything in their power to advance their dystopia. Maga is the only thing stopping them. This environment is now about doing everything right now and making it so it's hard for the other side to undo. That is how the Dems have been playing, and it's way past time that the Repubs recognize that they are in a fight to save the American Dream and have to do the same. There is no other way because in addition to using the system, the Dems will also lie, cheat and steal to win. We have to fight to win. It's not a perfect movement, but we should all thank God for Maga. Globalist run dystopia is their end game, we're the only one fighting the globalist tide.


who is living in a make believe world here? Trump lost because he f-ed up COVID and shut down the economy. Biden lost because he f-ed up and did a **** job. no plots. he lost. Trump. will lose Congress because he went full Authoritarian. no plots, no schemes.



So to summarize, Democrats being democrats wins them elections but Republicans using the same democrat tactics also causes Democrats to win?

I know you long for the days of the republicans being doormats to left with such great, charismatic leaders like Jeb!, Bob Dole, John McCain, and the timeless Mitt Romney. But those days are thankfully over.


you see what you want to see. i also said Biden list because sucked. performance gets u re elected. Trump and Biden did not perform and lost. Trump is going to give the Dems a dream platform, they can take high ground on pretty much every issue people care about, health care, jobs, food programs, Democracy, environment, education, cost of living the list goes on. He is giving them a dream platform.


They have that in every election cycle. Every one.

You need something else to worry about.

Republicans lose when they fail to govern as republicans. People didn't elect Trump to get along with the party that is actively destroying our culture and civilization.


you are mistaking culture and civilization with kitchen table, laying off millions, not funding 42 million people in SNAP, reducing flights so that 800 flights are cancelled, allowing their health insurance to skyrocket or denying that millions need and use Obamacare. Those are lifestyle issues that people will blame Trump, not the Dems. This is where the harsh rhetoric hurts.


Corporate American outsourcing jobs and immigration scams like H-1B visas is what is responsible for laying off millions.

And if Trump gets the blame for lack of SNAP (food stamps) or reducing flights....that is unfair since its because the Democratic party in Congress refuses to pass a budget and fund the government.

Obamacare is also directly responsible for raising health care costs....not reducing them.


All true.

However it requires the intelligence and willingness to conect the dots.

And many folks , including a few on this message board, don't possess either.

Of course some folks merely enjoy trolling.
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In reply to Redbrickbear • 6:32p, 11/7/25
Redbrickbear said:
Waco1947 said:
Aliceinbubbleland said:
And another viewpoint...


Democratic Socialism worked in:
France, Netherlands, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Switzerland, etc.


Oh boy

It would take long articles to show you that these were and are all fully capitalist states that just have a social safety net.

They were not and are not socialist

And all of them (besides France lol) had a native population with a seriously strong work ethnic and harsh social values against "free loading" and laying around or milking the system.

The Dutch for instance only recently started mandating how many sick days a worker could take. Because there was such a super serious social cost to lying that Dutch workers didn't lie. They only took off days when they really were dog sick.

"the English, Dutch, and American Puritans were characterized by the exact opposite of the joy of living - that is, pain." - Max Weber

Hard work as a way of life….even an obsession…was a trait of many of these States/peoples. It's why acre for acre and company for company they just plain out performed larger Nations and States around them.

And yet even with strong work values, serious social shaming, and group solidarity they never went full socialist
Oh boy opinion without support
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 6:33p, 11/7/25
FLBear5630 said:
GrowlTowel said:
FLBear5630 said:
GrowlTowel said:
FLBear5630 said:
TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
FLBear5630 said:
BearFan33 said:
So I guess the game plan is to find a sympathetic judge and sue his administration every time he tries to do something. Heck sue him for no particular reason at all. Keep him tied in court for 4 years and maybe NYC survives. This is how we do things in America these days,

He is not getting that agenda through. I may expand the rent control zones to more accurately reflect today versus the 60's when they were set up. He may destroy a park or two. But, nothing that can't be dealt with. Keeping the processes in place is important, you start changing because you like someone or what they are doing and then people like this can do real damage. Wish MAGA would get that...


You wish MAGA would get that? You're a smart guy but you're so lost in a make believe world sometimes.
Here is reality... Dems will use absolutely everything in their power to advance their dystopia. Maga is the only thing stopping them. This environment is now about doing everything right now and making it so it's hard for the other side to undo. That is how the Dems have been playing, and it's way past time that the Repubs recognize that they are in a fight to save the American Dream and have to do the same. There is no other way because in addition to using the system, the Dems will also lie, cheat and steal to win. We have to fight to win. It's not a perfect movement, but we should all thank God for Maga. Globalist run dystopia is their end game, we're the only one fighting the globalist tide.


who is living in a make believe world here? Trump lost because he f-ed up COVID and shut down the economy. Biden lost because he f-ed up and did a **** job. no plots. he lost. Trump. will lose Congress because he went full Authoritarian. no plots, no schemes.



So to summarize, Democrats being democrats wins them elections but Republicans using the same democrat tactics also causes Democrats to win?

I know you long for the days of the republicans being doormats to left with such great, charismatic leaders like Jeb!, Bob Dole, John McCain, and the timeless Mitt Romney. But those days are thankfully over.


you see what you want to see. i also said Biden list because sucked. performance gets u re elected. Trump and Biden did not perform and lost. Trump is going to give the Dems a dream platform, they can take high ground on pretty much every issue people care about, health care, jobs, food programs, Democracy, environment, education, cost of living the list goes on. He is giving them a dream platform.


They have that in every election cycle. Every one.

You need something else to worry about.

Republicans lose when they fail to govern as republicans. People didn't elect Trump to get along with the party that is actively destroying our culture and civilization.


you are mistaking culture and civilization with kitchen table, laying off millions, not funding 42 million people in SNAP, reducing flights so that 800 flights are cancelled, allowing their health insurance to skyrocket or denying that millions need and use Obamacare. Those are lifestyle issues that people will blame Trump, not the Dems. This is where the harsh rhetoric hurts.
you are so right
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In reply to Redbrickbear • 6:35p, 11/7/25
Redbrickbear said:
FLBear5630 said:
GrowlTowel said:
FLBear5630 said:
GrowlTowel said:
FLBear5630 said:
TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
FLBear5630 said:
BearFan33 said:
So I guess the game plan is to find a sympathetic judge and sue his administration every time he tries to do something. Heck sue him for no particular reason at all. Keep him tied in court for 4 years and maybe NYC survives. This is how we do things in America these days,

He is not getting that agenda through. I may expand the rent control zones to more accurately reflect today versus the 60's when they were set up. He may destroy a park or two. But, nothing that can't be dealt with. Keeping the processes in place is important, you start changing because you like someone or what they are doing and then people like this can do real damage. Wish MAGA would get that...


You wish MAGA would get that? You're a smart guy but you're so lost in a make believe world sometimes.
Here is reality... Dems will use absolutely everything in their power to advance their dystopia. Maga is the only thing stopping them. This environment is now about doing everything right now and making it so it's hard for the other side to undo. That is how the Dems have been playing, and it's way past time that the Repubs recognize that they are in a fight to save the American Dream and have to do the same. There is no other way because in addition to using the system, the Dems will also lie, cheat and steal to win. We have to fight to win. It's not a perfect movement, but we should all thank God for Maga. Globalist run dystopia is their end game, we're the only one fighting the globalist tide.


who is living in a make believe world here? Trump lost because he f-ed up COVID and shut down the economy. Biden lost because he f-ed up and did a **** job. no plots. he lost. Trump. will lose Congress because he went full Authoritarian. no plots, no schemes.



So to summarize, Democrats being democrats wins them elections but Republicans using the same democrat tactics also causes Democrats to win?

I know you long for the days of the republicans being doormats to left with such great, charismatic leaders like Jeb!, Bob Dole, John McCain, and the timeless Mitt Romney. But those days are thankfully over.


you see what you want to see. i also said Biden list because sucked. performance gets u re elected. Trump and Biden did not perform and lost. Trump is going to give the Dems a dream platform, they can take high ground on pretty much every issue people care about, health care, jobs, food programs, Democracy, environment, education, cost of living the list goes on. He is giving them a dream platform.


They have that in every election cycle. Every one.

You need something else to worry about.

Republicans lose when they fail to govern as republicans. People didn't elect Trump to get along with the party that is actively destroying our culture and civilization.


you are mistaking culture and civilization with kitchen table, laying off millions, not funding 42 million people in SNAP, reducing flights so that 800 flights are cancelled, allowing their health insurance to skyrocket or denying that millions need and use Obamacare. Those are lifestyle issues that people will blame Trump, not the Dems. This is where the harsh rhetoric hurts.


Corporate American outsourcing jobs and immigration scams like H-1B visas is what is responsible for laying off millions.

And if Trump gets the blame for lack of SNAP (food stamps) or reducing flights....that is unfair since its because the Democratic party in Congress refuses to pass a budget and fund the government.

Obamacare is also directly responsible for raising health care costs....not reducing them.
Unfair? Maybe but it is what people are experiencing and believing
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In reply to Waco1947 • 8:32p, 11/7/25
Waco1947 said:
Redbrickbear said:
FLBear5630 said:
GrowlTowel said:
FLBear5630 said:
GrowlTowel said:
FLBear5630 said:
TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
FLBear5630 said:
BearFan33 said:
So I guess the game plan is to find a sympathetic judge and sue his administration every time he tries to do something. Heck sue him for no particular reason at all. Keep him tied in court for 4 years and maybe NYC survives. This is how we do things in America these days,

He is not getting that agenda through. I may expand the rent control zones to more accurately reflect today versus the 60's when they were set up. He may destroy a park or two. But, nothing that can't be dealt with. Keeping the processes in place is important, you start changing because you like someone or what they are doing and then people like this can do real damage. Wish MAGA would get that...


You wish MAGA would get that? You're a smart guy but you're so lost in a make believe world sometimes.
Here is reality... Dems will use absolutely everything in their power to advance their dystopia. Maga is the only thing stopping them. This environment is now about doing everything right now and making it so it's hard for the other side to undo. That is how the Dems have been playing, and it's way past time that the Repubs recognize that they are in a fight to save the American Dream and have to do the same. There is no other way because in addition to using the system, the Dems will also lie, cheat and steal to win. We have to fight to win. It's not a perfect movement, but we should all thank God for Maga. Globalist run dystopia is their end game, we're the only one fighting the globalist tide.


who is living in a make believe world here? Trump lost because he f-ed up COVID and shut down the economy. Biden lost because he f-ed up and did a **** job. no plots. he lost. Trump. will lose Congress because he went full Authoritarian. no plots, no schemes.



So to summarize, Democrats being democrats wins them elections but Republicans using the same democrat tactics also causes Democrats to win?

I know you long for the days of the republicans being doormats to left with such great, charismatic leaders like Jeb!, Bob Dole, John McCain, and the timeless Mitt Romney. But those days are thankfully over.


you see what you want to see. i also said Biden list because sucked. performance gets u re elected. Trump and Biden did not perform and lost. Trump is going to give the Dems a dream platform, they can take high ground on pretty much every issue people care about, health care, jobs, food programs, Democracy, environment, education, cost of living the list goes on. He is giving them a dream platform.


They have that in every election cycle. Every one.

You need something else to worry about.

Republicans lose when they fail to govern as republicans. People didn't elect Trump to get along with the party that is actively destroying our culture and civilization.


you are mistaking culture and civilization with kitchen table, laying off millions, not funding 42 million people in SNAP, reducing flights so that 800 flights are cancelled, allowing their health insurance to skyrocket or denying that millions need and use Obamacare. Those are lifestyle issues that people will blame Trump, not the Dems. This is where the harsh rhetoric hurts.


Corporate American outsourcing jobs and immigration scams like H-1B visas is what is responsible for laying off millions.

And if Trump gets the blame for lack of SNAP (food stamps) or reducing flights....that is unfair since its because the Democratic party in Congress refuses to pass a budget and fund the government.

Obamacare is also directly responsible for raising health care costs....not reducing them.
Unfair? Maybe but it is what people are experiencing and believing


So you admit that your party caused their pain? Wow, welcome home preacher.
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FLBear5630 said:
GrowlTowel said:
FLBear5630 said:
GrowlTowel said:
FLBear5630 said:
TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
FLBear5630 said:
BearFan33 said:
So I guess the game plan is to find a sympathetic judge and sue his administration every time he tries to do something. Heck sue him for no particular reason at all. Keep him tied in court for 4 years and maybe NYC survives. This is how we do things in America these days,

He is not getting that agenda through. I may expand the rent control zones to more accurately reflect today versus the 60's when they were set up. He may destroy a park or two. But, nothing that can't be dealt with. Keeping the processes in place is important, you start changing because you like someone or what they are doing and then people like this can do real damage. Wish MAGA would get that...


You wish MAGA would get that? You're a smart guy but you're so lost in a make believe world sometimes.
Here is reality... Dems will use absolutely everything in their power to advance their dystopia. Maga is the only thing stopping them. This environment is now about doing everything right now and making it so it's hard for the other side to undo. That is how the Dems have been playing, and it's way past time that the Repubs recognize that they are in a fight to save the American Dream and have to do the same. There is no other way because in addition to using the system, the Dems will also lie, cheat and steal to win. We have to fight to win. It's not a perfect movement, but we should all thank God for Maga. Globalist run dystopia is their end game, we're the only one fighting the globalist tide.


who is living in a make believe world here? Trump lost because he f-ed up COVID and shut down the economy. Biden lost because he f-ed up and did a **** job. no plots. he lost. Trump. will lose Congress because he went full Authoritarian. no plots, no schemes.



So to summarize, Democrats being democrats wins them elections but Republicans using the same democrat tactics also causes Democrats to win?

I know you long for the days of the republicans being doormats to left with such great, charismatic leaders like Jeb!, Bob Dole, John McCain, and the timeless Mitt Romney. But those days are thankfully over.


you see what you want to see. i also said Biden list because sucked. performance gets u re elected. Trump and Biden did not perform and lost. Trump is going to give the Dems a dream platform, they can take high ground on pretty much every issue people care about, health care, jobs, food programs, Democracy, environment, education, cost of living the list goes on. He is giving them a dream platform.


They have that in every election cycle. Every one.

You need something else to worry about.

Republicans lose when they fail to govern as republicans. People didn't elect Trump to get along with the party that is actively destroying our culture and civilization.


you are mistaking culture and civilization with kitchen table, laying off millions, not funding 42 million people in SNAP, reducing flights so that 800 flights are cancelled, allowing their health insurance to skyrocket or denying that millions need and use Obamacare. Those are lifestyle issues that people will blame Trump, not the Dems. This is where the harsh rhetoric hurts.
you are so right


Wipe your chin, he voted for Trump.
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KaiBear said:
Redbrickbear said:
FLBear5630 said:
GrowlTowel said:
FLBear5630 said:
GrowlTowel said:
FLBear5630 said:
TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
FLBear5630 said:
BearFan33 said:
So I guess the game plan is to find a sympathetic judge and sue his administration every time he tries to do something. Heck sue him for no particular reason at all. Keep him tied in court for 4 years and maybe NYC survives. This is how we do things in America these days,

He is not getting that agenda through. I may expand the rent control zones to more accurately reflect today versus the 60's when they were set up. He may destroy a park or two. But, nothing that can't be dealt with. Keeping the processes in place is important, you start changing because you like someone or what they are doing and then people like this can do real damage. Wish MAGA would get that...


You wish MAGA would get that? You're a smart guy but you're so lost in a make believe world sometimes.
Here is reality... Dems will use absolutely everything in their power to advance their dystopia. Maga is the only thing stopping them. This environment is now about doing everything right now and making it so it's hard for the other side to undo. That is how the Dems have been playing, and it's way past time that the Repubs recognize that they are in a fight to save the American Dream and have to do the same. There is no other way because in addition to using the system, the Dems will also lie, cheat and steal to win. We have to fight to win. It's not a perfect movement, but we should all thank God for Maga. Globalist run dystopia is their end game, we're the only one fighting the globalist tide.


who is living in a make believe world here? Trump lost because he f-ed up COVID and shut down the economy. Biden lost because he f-ed up and did a **** job. no plots. he lost. Trump. will lose Congress because he went full Authoritarian. no plots, no schemes.



So to summarize, Democrats being democrats wins them elections but Republicans using the same democrat tactics also causes Democrats to win?

I know you long for the days of the republicans being doormats to left with such great, charismatic leaders like Jeb!, Bob Dole, John McCain, and the timeless Mitt Romney. But those days are thankfully over.


you see what you want to see. i also said Biden list because sucked. performance gets u re elected. Trump and Biden did not perform and lost. Trump is going to give the Dems a dream platform, they can take high ground on pretty much every issue people care about, health care, jobs, food programs, Democracy, environment, education, cost of living the list goes on. He is giving them a dream platform.


They have that in every election cycle. Every one.

You need something else to worry about.

Republicans lose when they fail to govern as republicans. People didn't elect Trump to get along with the party that is actively destroying our culture and civilization.


you are mistaking culture and civilization with kitchen table, laying off millions, not funding 42 million people in SNAP, reducing flights so that 800 flights are cancelled, allowing their health insurance to skyrocket or denying that millions need and use Obamacare. Those are lifestyle issues that people will blame Trump, not the Dems. This is where the harsh rhetoric hurts.


Corporate American outsourcing jobs and immigration scams like H-1B visas is what is responsible for laying off millions.

And if Trump gets the blame for lack of SNAP (food stamps) or reducing flights....that is unfair since its because the Democratic party in Congress refuses to pass a budget and fund the government.

Obamacare is also directly responsible for raising health care costs....not reducing them.


All true.

However it requires the intelligence and willingness to conect the dots.

And many folks , including a few on this message board, don't possess either.

Of course some folks merely enjoy trolling.

It is amazing how ignorant and dare I say stupid the most highly educated have become.
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In reply to KaiBear • 8:44p, 11/7/25
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Osodecentx said:
KaiBear said:
Chuck Schumer, Trump, Vance and Gavin Newsom would all like to think so.

But AOC, Bernie , and Karen Bass all know better.

The NYC Muslim is leading a New Democratic Party.



Noonan:

Republicans should understand Mr. Mamdani isn't your bogeyman to use for your electoral amusement. You think you're going to make him "the face of the Democratic Party," in that stupid phrase, and everyone will hate Democrats and you'll profit without even trying. But he's cleverer than you, he understands the world of right now better, and in any case he has an ideology he swallowed whole, at father's knee, with mother's milk, and has fully absorbed and digested. He thinks he knows his historical meaning. Do you?

Still remember when almost everyone here was under estimating AOC. I kept saying she had a bright future.....and absolutely does. Probably will be the next senator from New York.

And this young Muslim has huge potential as well. Got looks. money and game.

Besides, demographics don't lie....and Christian, white, conservatives are disappearing generation by generation.


I don't think anyone was underestimating AOC. She's not bright, but no one expexts liberals to care. We all knew they'd continue voting for her.
Thee tinfoil hat couch-potato prognosticator, not a bible school preacher.


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He puts an Usama Bin Laden statue behind the council chamber?
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Harrison Bergeron said:
KaiBear said:
Redbrickbear said:
FLBear5630 said:
GrowlTowel said:
FLBear5630 said:
GrowlTowel said:
FLBear5630 said:
TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
FLBear5630 said:
BearFan33 said:
So I guess the game plan is to find a sympathetic judge and sue his administration every time he tries to do something. Heck sue him for no particular reason at all. Keep him tied in court for 4 years and maybe NYC survives. This is how we do things in America these days,

He is not getting that agenda through. I may expand the rent control zones to more accurately reflect today versus the 60's when they were set up. He may destroy a park or two. But, nothing that can't be dealt with. Keeping the processes in place is important, you start changing because you like someone or what they are doing and then people like this can do real damage. Wish MAGA would get that...


You wish MAGA would get that? You're a smart guy but you're so lost in a make believe world sometimes.
Here is reality... Dems will use absolutely everything in their power to advance their dystopia. Maga is the only thing stopping them. This environment is now about doing everything right now and making it so it's hard for the other side to undo. That is how the Dems have been playing, and it's way past time that the Repubs recognize that they are in a fight to save the American Dream and have to do the same. There is no other way because in addition to using the system, the Dems will also lie, cheat and steal to win. We have to fight to win. It's not a perfect movement, but we should all thank God for Maga. Globalist run dystopia is their end game, we're the only one fighting the globalist tide.


who is living in a make believe world here? Trump lost because he f-ed up COVID and shut down the economy. Biden lost because he f-ed up and did a **** job. no plots. he lost. Trump. will lose Congress because he went full Authoritarian. no plots, no schemes.



So to summarize, Democrats being democrats wins them elections but Republicans using the same democrat tactics also causes Democrats to win?

I know you long for the days of the republicans being doormats to left with such great, charismatic leaders like Jeb!, Bob Dole, John McCain, and the timeless Mitt Romney. But those days are thankfully over.


you see what you want to see. i also said Biden list because sucked. performance gets u re elected. Trump and Biden did not perform and lost. Trump is going to give the Dems a dream platform, they can take high ground on pretty much every issue people care about, health care, jobs, food programs, Democracy, environment, education, cost of living the list goes on. He is giving them a dream platform.


They have that in every election cycle. Every one.

You need something else to worry about.

Republicans lose when they fail to govern as republicans. People didn't elect Trump to get along with the party that is actively destroying our culture and civilization.


you are mistaking culture and civilization with kitchen table, laying off millions, not funding 42 million people in SNAP, reducing flights so that 800 flights are cancelled, allowing their health insurance to skyrocket or denying that millions need and use Obamacare. Those are lifestyle issues that people will blame Trump, not the Dems. This is where the harsh rhetoric hurts.


Corporate American outsourcing jobs and immigration scams like H-1B visas is what is responsible for laying off millions.

And if Trump gets the blame for lack of SNAP (food stamps) or reducing flights....that is unfair since its because the Democratic party in Congress refuses to pass a budget and fund the government.

Obamacare is also directly responsible for raising health care costs....not reducing them.


All true.

However it requires the intelligence and willingness to conect the dots.

And many folks , including a few on this message board, don't possess either.

Of course some folks merely enjoy trolling.

It is amazing how ignorant and dare I say stupid the most highly educated have become.


Unrelenting propaganda works.

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I had a conversation with a friend, and I said that I was glad for' Mamdani's election, to which my friend said, "We have to get rid of the Muslim."

Racism runs deep in the USA.
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I had a conversation with a friend, and I said that I was glad for' Mamdani's election, to which my friend said, "We have to get rid of the Muslim."

Racism runs deep in the USA.

You know Muslim is not a race you freaking rhegarded idiot.

There is a reason literacy test to vote were a good idea so stupid morons like you don't have a voice in our democracy.

Are you actually this stupid or just a troll?

I know that reads mean but I cannot understand how adults can be so stupid. It's embarrassing.
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KaiBear said:
Redbrickbear said:
FLBear5630 said:
GrowlTowel said:
FLBear5630 said:
GrowlTowel said:
FLBear5630 said:
TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
FLBear5630 said:
BearFan33 said:
So I guess the game plan is to find a sympathetic judge and sue his administration every time he tries to do something. Heck sue him for no particular reason at all. Keep him tied in court for 4 years and maybe NYC survives. This is how we do things in America these days,

He is not getting that agenda through. I may expand the rent control zones to more accurately reflect today versus the 60's when they were set up. He may destroy a park or two. But, nothing that can't be dealt with. Keeping the processes in place is important, you start changing because you like someone or what they are doing and then people like this can do real damage. Wish MAGA would get that...


You wish MAGA would get that? You're a smart guy but you're so lost in a make believe world sometimes.
Here is reality... Dems will use absolutely everything in their power to advance their dystopia. Maga is the only thing stopping them. This environment is now about doing everything right now and making it so it's hard for the other side to undo. That is how the Dems have been playing, and it's way past time that the Repubs recognize that they are in a fight to save the American Dream and have to do the same. There is no other way because in addition to using the system, the Dems will also lie, cheat and steal to win. We have to fight to win. It's not a perfect movement, but we should all thank God for Maga. Globalist run dystopia is their end game, we're the only one fighting the globalist tide.


who is living in a make believe world here? Trump lost because he f-ed up COVID and shut down the economy. Biden lost because he f-ed up and did a **** job. no plots. he lost. Trump. will lose Congress because he went full Authoritarian. no plots, no schemes.



So to summarize, Democrats being democrats wins them elections but Republicans using the same democrat tactics also causes Democrats to win?

I know you long for the days of the republicans being doormats to left with such great, charismatic leaders like Jeb!, Bob Dole, John McCain, and the timeless Mitt Romney. But those days are thankfully over.


you see what you want to see. i also said Biden list because sucked. performance gets u re elected. Trump and Biden did not perform and lost. Trump is going to give the Dems a dream platform, they can take high ground on pretty much every issue people care about, health care, jobs, food programs, Democracy, environment, education, cost of living the list goes on. He is giving them a dream platform.


They have that in every election cycle. Every one.

You need something else to worry about.

Republicans lose when they fail to govern as republicans. People didn't elect Trump to get along with the party that is actively destroying our culture and civilization.


you are mistaking culture and civilization with kitchen table, laying off millions, not funding 42 million people in SNAP, reducing flights so that 800 flights are cancelled, allowing their health insurance to skyrocket or denying that millions need and use Obamacare. Those are lifestyle issues that people will blame Trump, not the Dems. This is where the harsh rhetoric hurts.


Corporate American outsourcing jobs and immigration scams like H-1B visas is what is responsible for laying off millions.

And if Trump gets the blame for lack of SNAP (food stamps) or reducing flights....that is unfair since its because the Democratic party in Congress refuses to pass a budget and fund the government.

Obamacare is also directly responsible for raising health care costs....not reducing them.


All true.

However it requires the intelligence and willingness to conect the dots.

And many folks , including a few on this message board, don't possess either.

Of course some folks merely enjoy trolling.

It is amazing how ignorant and dare I say stupid the most highly educated have become.


Yet you guys argue the voters will know or research that Obamacare raised healthcare costs when it gave them insurance at a lower rate. Then throw on that it is under Trump that it will go away or raide their rates? Who is being ignorant? Voters are going to research? They are going to hear how Trump tripled his wealth, Elon a trillion and they have no health insurance. Yeah, going to play well in the Heartland.
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It's amazing trying to understand the mind set of a MAGA. They espouse strong Christian views yet they want to deny everything in society that Christ's teachings defended.

Anyone but the aggies please
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Waco1947 said:
I had a conversation with a friend, and I said that I was glad for' Mamdani's election, to which my friend said, "We have to get rid of the Muslim."

Racism runs deep in the USA.

You know Muslim is not a race you freaking rhegarded idiot.

There is a reason literacy test to vote were a good idea so stupid morons like you don't have a voice in our democracy.

Are you actually this stupid or just a troll?

I know that reads mean but I cannot understand how adults can be so stupid. It's embarrassing.

There are millions of individuals that stupid.

Most are in debt up to their ass and hoping that next 'relationship' heals a life of misery.
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FLBear5630 said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
KaiBear said:
Redbrickbear said:
FLBear5630 said:
GrowlTowel said:
FLBear5630 said:
GrowlTowel said:
FLBear5630 said:
TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
FLBear5630 said:
BearFan33 said:
So I guess the game plan is to find a sympathetic judge and sue his administration every time he tries to do something. Heck sue him for no particular reason at all. Keep him tied in court for 4 years and maybe NYC survives. This is how we do things in America these days,

He is not getting that agenda through. I may expand the rent control zones to more accurately reflect today versus the 60's when they were set up. He may destroy a park or two. But, nothing that can't be dealt with. Keeping the processes in place is important, you start changing because you like someone or what they are doing and then people like this can do real damage. Wish MAGA would get that...


You wish MAGA would get that? You're a smart guy but you're so lost in a make believe world sometimes.
Here is reality... Dems will use absolutely everything in their power to advance their dystopia. Maga is the only thing stopping them. This environment is now about doing everything right now and making it so it's hard for the other side to undo. That is how the Dems have been playing, and it's way past time that the Repubs recognize that they are in a fight to save the American Dream and have to do the same. There is no other way because in addition to using the system, the Dems will also lie, cheat and steal to win. We have to fight to win. It's not a perfect movement, but we should all thank God for Maga. Globalist run dystopia is their end game, we're the only one fighting the globalist tide.


who is living in a make believe world here? Trump lost because he f-ed up COVID and shut down the economy. Biden lost because he f-ed up and did a **** job. no plots. he lost. Trump. will lose Congress because he went full Authoritarian. no plots, no schemes.



So to summarize, Democrats being democrats wins them elections but Republicans using the same democrat tactics also causes Democrats to win?

I know you long for the days of the republicans being doormats to left with such great, charismatic leaders like Jeb!, Bob Dole, John McCain, and the timeless Mitt Romney. But those days are thankfully over.


you see what you want to see. i also said Biden list because sucked. performance gets u re elected. Trump and Biden did not perform and lost. Trump is going to give the Dems a dream platform, they can take high ground on pretty much every issue people care about, health care, jobs, food programs, Democracy, environment, education, cost of living the list goes on. He is giving them a dream platform.


They have that in every election cycle. Every one.

You need something else to worry about.

Republicans lose when they fail to govern as republicans. People didn't elect Trump to get along with the party that is actively destroying our culture and civilization.


you are mistaking culture and civilization with kitchen table, laying off millions, not funding 42 million people in SNAP, reducing flights so that 800 flights are cancelled, allowing their health insurance to skyrocket or denying that millions need and use Obamacare. Those are lifestyle issues that people will blame Trump, not the Dems. This is where the harsh rhetoric hurts.


Corporate American outsourcing jobs and immigration scams like H-1B visas is what is responsible for laying off millions.

And if Trump gets the blame for lack of SNAP (food stamps) or reducing flights....that is unfair since its because the Democratic party in Congress refuses to pass a budget and fund the government.

Obamacare is also directly responsible for raising health care costs....not reducing them.


All true.

However it requires the intelligence and willingness to conect the dots.

And many folks , including a few on this message board, don't possess either.

Of course some folks merely enjoy trolling.

It is amazing how ignorant and dare I say stupid the most highly educated have become.


Yet you guys argue the voters will know or research that Obamacare raised healthcare costs when it gave them insurance at a lower rate. Then throw on that it is under Trump that it will go away or raide their rates? Who is being ignorant? Voters are going to research? They are going to hear how Trump tripled his wealth, Elon a trillion and they have no health insurance. Yeah, going to play well in the Heartland.

I don't know who "you guys" are or what that post is supposed to mean.
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It's amazing trying to understand the mind set of a MAGA. They espouse strong Christian views yet they want to deny everything in society that Christ's teachings defended.

What is the mindset of MAGA? Can you share?

I feel like it is one of those bogeymen that you can use as a strawman but really cannot define.



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Mamdani's wife drew herself as George Floyd


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Aliceinbubbleland said:
It's amazing trying to understand the mind set of a MAGA. They espouse strong Christian views yet they want to deny everything in society that Christ's teachings defended.


Leaving your basic point to be debated for another theme about Christianity….You really have to at the fact that MAGA is not a exclusive movement that is just for Christians

America (and the entire Western world) is rapidly secularizing.

So the post religious right makes up an increasing part of MAGA. (As the post religious left does on the other side)

Trump (like Clinton) is an example of a guy who did not go to church much during his life.

That is a growing faction on all sides…the "nones"

The average MAGA voter you hate is a working class male who hardly goes to church at all and has low levels of religious practice.


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I don't hate anyone. I just disagree

Anyone but the aggies please
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He actually said it

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He actually said it


Great line...
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Aliceinbubbleland said:
I don't hate anyone. I just disagree

I think you missed the question:

What is the mindset of MAGA? Can you share?

I feel like it is one of those bogeymen that you can use as a strawman but really cannot define.

BTW - so you can disagree with someone and it does not mean you "hate" them? Interesting ...
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