CDC Vaccine Panel Presentation Distorts Research on Safety of mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines

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https://www.factcheck.org/2025/11/cdc-vaccine-panel-presentation-distorts-research-on-safety-of-mrna-covid-19-vaccines/
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"The important thing to know about an assassination or an attempted assassination is not who fired the shot, but who paid for the bullet." Eric Ambler
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Interpreting data in a different manner is not distortion, it is science.
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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

https://www.factcheck.org/2025/11/cdc-vaccine-panel-presentation-distorts-research-on-safety-of-mrna-covid-19-vaccines/


"The slide deck is an example of an anti-science ideology in which facts, evidence, and data no longer matter, but are instead abused: cherry-picked, misinterpreted, overinterpreted, or taken out of context to fit a predetermined narrative, regardless of how it conflicts with reality and the evidence obtained through the scientific method,"
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"The important thing to know about an assassination or an attempted assassination is not who fired the shot, but who paid for the bullet." Eric Ambler
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Last time I checked some goofy A S S x dude named vigilant fox was not very credible but in Assassin's warped world he/she is.
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"The important thing to know about an assassination or an attempted assassination is not who fired the shot, but who paid for the bullet." Eric Ambler
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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

Last time I checked some goofy A S S x dude named vigilant fox was not very credible but in Assassin's warped world he/she is.


"The Vigilant Fox" is an independent media platform known for sharing content related to conservative themes, particularly information and conspiracy theories related to COVID-19 vaccines. The platform's content is frequently fact-checked and found to contain misinformation.
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NBC News: FDA claims Covid shots killed 10 children and vows new vaccine rules
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"The important thing to know about an assassination or an attempted assassination is not who fired the shot, but who paid for the bullet." Eric Ambler
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Assassin said:

NBC News: FDA claims Covid shots killed 10 children and vows new vaccine rules

You really cannot interpret data can you? Why are you so stupid?
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Assassin said:



Assassin, continually proving how stupid he truly is.
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“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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historian said:



Damn.
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Assassin said:

historian said:



Damn.

You are one dumb sob.

The claims you are referring to appear to stem from a specific interpretation of a recent retrospective cohort study conducted in South Korea. It is important to look at the actual data from that study, what the authors themselves concluded, and how the scientific community at large views these findings.
The following breakdown provides context on the "8.7 million" figure, the specific percentages you listed, and the scientific consensus on mRNA vaccines and cancer.
1. The Study in Question (South Korea)
The statistics you cited (e.g., Prostate +69%, Lung +53%, Thyroid +35%) match the Hazard Ratios (HR) reported in a study titled "1-year risks of cancers associated with COVID-19 vaccination: a large population-based cohort study in South Korea" (Kim et al., published in Biomarker Research).
While the numbers you listed appear in the study's data tables, the interpretation that the vaccines caused these increases is disputed by experts and even contradicted by the study's own limitations section.
  • Surveillance Bias: The researchers noted that vaccinated individuals had much more frequent contact with the healthcare system than unvaccinated individuals. This leads to "detection bias"if you go to the doctor to get a vaccine or manage side effects, you are more likely to get screened and have a pre-existing (but previously undiagnosed) cancer detected.
  • The "Healthy Vaccinee" Effect vs. Under-diagnosis: The unvaccinated group in this dataset was shown to have many comorbidities but fewer medical visits. This suggests that the unvaccinated group may have had undiagnosed cancers that were never recorded, making the vaccinated group look like they had "more" cancer by comparison.
  • Timeframe Impossibility: The study looked at cancer diagnoses just one year after vaccination. Known carcinogens (like tobacco or asbestos) take years or decades to cause cancer. Biological experts argue that it is mechanistically impossible for a vaccine to initiate a new solid tumor and have it grow to detectable size in just a few months. These were likely pre-existing cancers detected during medical visits.
2. The "17 Oncogenic Mechanisms" Claim
The idea that mRNA vaccines have "17 oncogenic mechanisms" is not a recognized medical consensus. This claim often originates from theoretical papers (such as "The Multi-Hit Hypothesis of Oncogenesis") which speculate on potential pathways rather than observing actual clinical effects.
  • Theoretical vs. Real-world: These papers often hypothesize that because mRNA instructs cells to make proteins, it could theoretically interfere with tumor suppressor genes (like p53). However, biological studies have not shown this happens in the human body following vaccination.
  • mRNA Breakdown: The mRNA in vaccines degrades rapidly (within days) and does not integrate into human DNA. There is no sustained mechanism present long enough to drive the complex, multi-year process of carcinogenesis.
3. Conflicting Data and Scientific Consensus
If there were a genuine +50% or +60% increase in common cancers like lung or breast cancer across the population, cancer registries worldwide would show massive, undeniable spikes in total cancer deaths. Current global data does not show this trend.
  • Contradictory Studies: Other large-scale studies conflict with the South Korean findings. For example, a study of 2.2 million people published in JAMA Network Open found no association between COVID-19 vaccination and increased cancer risk.
  • Protective Effects: Some research has actually suggested the oppositethat COVID-19 vaccination may help cancer patients. A study from the University of Florida found that cancer patients who received mRNA vaccines responded better to immunotherapy, potentially because the vaccine "woke up" the immune system.
Summary of the Data
Cancer Type
Your Cited Risk
Context from Scientific ReviewProstate (+69%)
Matches HR 1.69
Highly susceptible to detection bias (PSA tests are often done during routine medical visits).
Lung (+53%)
Matches HR 1.53
Biologically implausible to develop detectable lung cancer in <12 months from a new cause.
Thyroid (+35%)
Matches HR 1.35
The study noted "heterologous" results; thyroid cancer is frequently over-diagnosed with increased screening.
Bladder (+62%)
Matches HR 1.21 (Not sig)
In the actual study snippet, bladder cancer results were not statistically significant (P=0.352).
Conclusion
The "landmark studies" you mentioned likely refer to the South Korean dataset. While the correlations (the numbers) exist in that specific dataset, the causation is widely rejected by oncologists due to the short timeframe (cancers don't grow that fast) and detection bias (vaccinated people saw doctors more often).
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As usual, dumb a$$ Assassin picks great resources. Don't you ever tire of being a dumb a$$?

Nicolas Hulscher is an early-career epidemiologist whose reputation is heavily polarized. He is a central figure in groups that are skeptical of COVID-19 vaccine safety, but his work is widely criticized by the broader medical and scientific community for methodological flaws.
Here is a breakdown of his background, affiliations, and standing in the scientific community:
1. Professional Background
  • Education: Hulscher is a recent graduate. He obtained his Master of Public Health (MPH) from the University of Michigan School of Public Health in April 2024.
  • Affiliations: He is a Fellow at the McCullough Foundation, an organization led by Dr. Peter McCullough, who is a well-known figure in the vaccine-skeptic movement. Hulscher also has affiliations with The Wellness Company, a commercial enterprise that sells supplements and medical kits, which is also associated with Dr. McCullough.
2. Scientific Standing and Controversies
Hulscher is not considered a mainstream academic researcher. Instead, he acts as a lead researcher for organizations specifically aiming to prove harms associated with COVID-19 vaccines.
  • Autopsy Studies & Retractions: One of his most cited contributions is a systematic review of autopsy findings which claimed that 74% of deaths post-vaccination were caused by the vaccine.
    • The Criticism: This paper was widely criticized by pathologists and other scientists for selection bias (only picking cases that supported the conclusion) and for lacking proper control groups. The "independent adjudication" in the study was conducted by other figures known for their anti-vaccine stances, rather than by neutral third-party pathologists.
    • Outcome: A version of this paper was notably removed or rejected from a major preprint server (The Lancet's SSRN) due to concerns over its methodology, though it was later published in journals that are often viewed as less rigorous or "predatory" by the mainstream scientific community.
  • Methodological Concerns: Critics (such as Van Wyk et al., who wrote a formal rebuttal) argue that Hulscher's work frequently relies on VAERS data (which is self-reported and unverified) and ignores comorbidities (other diseases the patients had) to attribute deaths solely to vaccination.
3. Summary of Reputation
  • Among Vaccine Skeptics: He is viewed as a brave researcher uncovering suppressed truths about vaccine injuries, particularly regarding myocarditis and "sudden death."
  • Among the Mainstream Scientific Community: He is viewed as a biased actor producing "pseudoscientific" papers designed to support a pre-determined conclusion. His lack of long-term experience (being a very recent graduate) and his financial/professional ties to the McCullough Foundation are often cited as conflicts of interest that undermine the objectivity of his research.
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As much as I enjoy jerking your chain and you playing the puppet on the 30-35 threads you have made this year on the same subject, I've grown bored with it. Good bye and don't forget, get every single one of those Covid Boosters!
"The important thing to know about an assassination or an attempted assassination is not who fired the shot, but who paid for the bullet." Eric Ambler
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Assassin said:

As much as I enjoy jerking your chain and you playing the puppet on the 30-35 threads you have made this year on the same subject, I've grown bored with it. Good bye and don't forget, get every single one of those Covid Boosters!

I plan to. Keep cashing those government checks you conservative you!
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