Are we at the point where immigration has become a net negative?

On the plus side, you get good and talented people from other nations.

On the down side, it brings tremendous costs to health care, education, social services, etc.
It pushes down wages.
It inflates housing costs.

An economist could never do a real study for fear of being called names but I am sure we should continue to encourage it.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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Are we at the point where immigration has become a net negative?

On the plus side, you get good and talented people from other nations.

On the down side, it brings tremendous costs to health care, education, social services, etc.
It pushes down wages.
It inflates housing costs.

An economist could never do a real study for fear of being called names but I am sure we should continue to encourage it.

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We live in very confusing times. In one breath, our President promises to bring back bazillion jobs back to the U.S. and in another says our current available workforce in the U.S. is unskilled and underqualified.

Now sounds like a great opportunity to take advantage of free and fair trade. Economies of scale, comparative advantage, and all that other Economics 101 stuff.

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Are we at the point where immigration has become a net negative?

On the plus side, you get good and talented people from other nations.

On the down side, it brings tremendous costs to health care, education, social services, etc.
It pushes down wages.
It inflates housing costs.

An economist could never do a real study for fear of being called names but I am sure we should continue to encourage it.

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We live in very confusing times. In one breath, our President promises to bring back bazillion jobs back to the U.S. and in another says our current available workforce in the U.S. is unskilled and underqualified.

Now sounds like a great opportunity to take advantage of free and fair trade. Economies of scale, competitive advantage, and all that other Economics 101 stuff.

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Definitely one of his more confusing interviews.

100% on board with free and fair trade.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Are we at the point where immigration has become a net negative?

On the plus side, you get good and talented people from other nations.
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Definitely one of his more confusing interviews.

100% on board with free and fair trade.

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... and a legit guest worker program.

- uncle fred

{ sipping coffee }

{ eating donut }

D!

Go Bears!!

Beat The Utes!!!

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Are we at the point where immigration has become a net negative?

On the plus side, you get good and talented people from other nations.

On the down side, it brings tremendous costs to health care, education, social services, etc.
It pushes down wages.
It inflates housing costs.

An economist could never do a real study for fear of being called names but I am sure we should continue to encourage it.

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We live in very confusing times. In one breath, our President promises to bring back bazillion jobs back to the U.S. and in another says our current available workforce in the U.S. is unskilled and underqualified.

Now sounds like a great opportunity to take advantage of free and fair trade. Economies of scale, comparative advantage, and all that other Economics 101 stuff.

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kubota ken chimes in...........

ironic.

- uncle fred

{ sipping covfefe }

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william said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Are we at the point where immigration has become a net negative?

On the plus side, you get good and talented people from other nations.

On the down side, it brings tremendous costs to health care, education, social services, etc.
It pushes down wages.
It inflates housing costs.

An economist could never do a real study for fear of being called names but I am sure we should continue to encourage it.

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We live in very confusing times. In one breath, our President promises to bring back bazillion jobs back to the U.S. and in another says our current available workforce in the U.S. is unskilled and underqualified.

Now sounds like a great opportunity to take advantage of free and fair trade. Economies of scale, comparative advantage, and all that other Economics 101 stuff.

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kubota ken chimes in...........

ironic.

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I much prefer Honda Jim.................

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william said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Are we at the point where immigration has become a net negative?

On the plus side, you get good and talented people from other nations.

On the down side, it brings tremendous costs to health care, education, social services, etc.
It pushes down wages.
It inflates housing costs.

An economist could never do a real study for fear of being called names but I am sure we should continue to encourage it.

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We live in very confusing times. In one breath, our President promises to bring back bazillion jobs back to the U.S. and in another says our current available workforce in the U.S. is unskilled and underqualified.

Now sounds like a great opportunity to take advantage of free and fair trade. Economies of scale, comparative advantage, and all that other Economics 101 stuff.

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kubota ken chimes in...........

ironic.

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I much prefer Honda Jim.................

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I prefer IBOT ........

- uncle fred

D!

Harrison Bergeron said:

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Are we at the point where immigration has become a net negative?

On the plus side, you get good and talented people from other nations.

On the down side, it brings tremendous costs to health care, education, social services, etc.
It pushes down wages.
It inflates housing costs.

An economist could never do a real study for fear of being called names but I am sure we should continue to encourage it.

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"On the down side, it brings tremendous costs to health care, education, social services, etc."

Only if the US constitution continues to be abrogated as far as specifying only very limited functions as federal matters is concerned. There isn't a word, or even an idea, in that document about healthcare, social services, or education, which can only be added through amendment, of which none yet exists. Not saying they can't be, just that they have not been, as much as many want to pretend they have, or simply ignore the document, whichever gets the desired result.

go bears!

Harrison Bergeron said:

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Are we at the point where water flow has become a net negative?

On the plus side, you get good cooking, hygiene and sanitation from water resources.

On the down side, it brings mosquitoes, disease and water damage.

A plumber could do a study, maybe design some kind of valve that would control the flow.

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I guess there is some movement towards retail immigration with the gold card. I think we want some controlled immigration. Take people that will be a net positive to society. Ones that have similar moral values and want to integrate. Biden let in anyone, including criminals (some countries literally emptied their prisons and sent them here). That cannot happen again. Ever.

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gold card is for the really wealthy - we just need a way for hard working people who can fill some jobs here that buffy and boofy dont dare want to do........ and they can not worry about immigration crap.

'mano de obra' as they say in hispaniel.

- uncle fred

D!

Go Bears!!

Vanquish The Utes!!

immigration reform

If u ain't native American, you and ur family are immigrants. Dirty Irish here

Fat people are putting the pressure on the healthcare system.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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J.R. said:

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If u ain't native American, you and ur family are immigrants. Dirty Irish here

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There are no such things are Native Americans Einstein. Everyone migrated here. The "first" migrants to what is known as America likely were wiped out by the second and the second the third, etc.

Take a history class. Become educated.

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you missed the point, the little backwater Hanky. Go get momma to make you some French Fried Taters, Carl.make sure your wife doesn't get rapped by a big nothing burger as you call the Epstein Trump situation.

J.R. said:

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If u ain't native American, you and ur family are immigrants. Dirty Irish here

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Part Irish part Cherokee.

Suprised to hear there are no longer any native Americans. The history books must have all been wrong and changed now. Can you point to a link that says there is no such people as native Americans? I asked my grankids and they are still being taught that native Americans were the people that were enjoyng life here before the evil white men showed up. Thanks in advance.

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J.R. said:

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If u ain't native American, you and ur family are immigrants. Dirty Irish here

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Part Irish part Cherokee.

Suprised to hear there are no longer any native Americans. The history books must have all been wrong and changed now. Can you point to a link that says there is no such people as native Americans? I asked my grankids and they are still being taught that native Americans were the people that were enjoyng life here before the evil white men showed up. Thanks in advance.

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If there is any truth to stereotypes, most of your post can now be explained as drunk posting.

It's all becoming more clear.

Of course, way past time. Just look around, unfettered immigration has many negatives.
Only bring highly skilled, value add. Limit the numbers so your own population can adjust.

J.R. said:

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If u ain't native American, you and ur family are immigrants. Dirty Irish here

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' Native Americans ' are immigrants as well.

The land was fought over for thousands of years between various waves of newcomers. The losers were slaughtered, enslaved or banished.

All long before the Europeans ever reached the continent.

KaiBear said:

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J.R. said:

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If u ain't native American, you and ur family are immigrants. Dirty Irish here

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' Native Americans ' are immigrants as well.

The land was fought over for thousands of years between various waves of newcomers. The losers were slaughtered, enslaved or banished.

All long before the Europeans ever reached the continent.

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It's almost like some people never got an education.

The entire rebranding of American Indians as these peaceful vegetarians is funny and sad but speaks to the Orwellian propaganda so many actually believe. Of course, they don't know "which button to push" sweating "Africa is the cradle of civilization" or "there were native Americans."

In fairness most folks never read about our history.

They are completely absorbed in the present.

So they are susceptible to any falsehoods posted on the internet from any source.

' Native Americans ' were no better or worse than the Europeans.

In that they conquered the land by force of arms and lost it through force of arms

And relatively soon we will lose the land in a similar manner.

KaiBear said:

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In fairness most folks never read about our history.

They are completely absorbed in the present.

So they are susceptible to any falsehoods posted on the internet from any source.

' Native Americans ' were no better or worse than the Europeans.

In that they conquered the land by force of arms and lost it through force of arms

And relatively soon we will lose the land in a similar manner.

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Sadly and tragically most people who go through our wonderful dumbed down public education system come out either woefully ignorant about our country's history, or they come out indoctrinated that the main thing you need to know is America is historically an oppressive, racist nation illegitimately founded by evil white Europeans. Huge contributing factor to why there are so many stupid voters and their numbers keep proliferating.

Top ethnicities by % on food stamp/SNAP benefits:

Afghan (45.6%)
Somali (42.4%)
Iraqi (34.8%)
Dominican (34.4%)
Navajo (33.3%)
Cabo Verdean (32.0%)
Lumbee (31.6%)

— Siddharth Khurana (@SidKhurana3607) November 22, 2025

“But Western economies need immigration.”

Well, Canada’s GDP growth has stagnated since 2015. Housing prices rose, but jobs and wages didn’t.

There is not a single tangible benefit anyone can name of this migration.

All they did was destroy a great country. https://t.co/QYBwO5ehOV

— Vince Dao (@VinceDaoTV) November 22, 2025

Redbrickbear said:

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Top ethnicities by % on food stamp/SNAP benefits:

Afghan (45.6%)
Somali (42.4%)
Iraqi (34.8%)
Dominican (34.4%)
Navajo (33.3%)
Cabo Verdean (32.0%)
Lumbee (31.6%)

— Siddharth Khurana (@SidKhurana3607) November 22, 2025

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What does that mean? Does that mean 45% of Afghans are on food stamps?

No one arguing that immigration is a net positive?

Harrison Bergeron said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Top ethnicities by % on food stamp/SNAP benefits:

Afghan (45.6%)
Somali (42.4%)
Iraqi (34.8%)
Dominican (34.4%)
Navajo (33.3%)
Cabo Verdean (32.0%)
Lumbee (31.6%)

— Siddharth Khurana (@SidKhurana3607) November 22, 2025

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What does that mean? Does that mean 45% of Afghans are on food stamps?

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Yep

Half the Afghans that have been brought to the USA have to be fed forever by taxpayers

Redbrickbear said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Top ethnicities by % on food stamp/SNAP benefits:

Afghan (45.6%)
Somali (42.4%)
Iraqi (34.8%)
Dominican (34.4%)
Navajo (33.3%)
Cabo Verdean (32.0%)
Lumbee (31.6%)

— Siddharth Khurana (@SidKhurana3607) November 22, 2025

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What does that mean? Does that mean 45% of Afghans are on food stamps?

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Yep

Half the Afghans that have been brought to the USA have to be fed forever by taxpayers

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Thanks. Not surprising.