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In reply to LIB,MR BEARS • 10:10a, 1/13/26
LIB,MR BEARS said:
Married A Horn said:
LIB,MR BEARS said:
I'm not holding my breath. There have been several false starts


What are your thoughts at this point? It looks almost certain for me at this point. I think its the real deal. Trump instilled confidence and courage in the Iranians and they arent stopping.


When I hear an American president telling a people group that we have their back I also hear Bush telling the Kurds that we have their back.

I know Trump isn't Bush, so I hope I'm wrong.

There are few things I'd like to see more than the collapse of a Muslim Iran and this one certainly has a different feel to it than other protests have had.

I hope I'm way off base and, it's beginning to look like I certainly am.

I asked my wife if I was wrong and she said, "absolutely, but about what?" Maybe y'all are both right



You're wrong but right about us not having their back for real. Ukraine.
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10:37a, 1/13/26
Its hard to know what exactly is going on over there right now. Propaganda from both sides.

Media reports Trump cut off communication with Iran leadership. I hope our CIA reports are accurate for decision making. It sure would be nice to get rid of the fundamentalists running Iran into the ground, but I don't want to see our troops over there in harms way.
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In reply to The_barBEARian • 1:36p, 1/13/26
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LIB,MR BEARS said:
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One the one hand, multitudes are screaming that the US is wrong in materially throwing in, against third parties, with the people of Iran and Venezuela in their struggle to be free from despotism.

On the other, there is the myriad of counties, cities, streets, parks, squares, schools, etc all over the US commemorating France's having materially thrown in, against a third party, with the 13 American colonies, primarily through the Marquis de Lafayette, in our struggle to be free from despotism.


On the other hand we live in a despotic country where what little freedoms we have left are constantly being assailed... in other words I'd rather see some people in DC eat some bullets than people half the world away who have no impact whatsoever on my daily life.

When did Americans become so weak and docile?

When did you take a shot at a politician or judge?

If the answer is never, either call yourself weak and docile or, call yourself sensible. Either way, you are not the revolutionary you seem to imagine yourself being.

Monday, is this WoW night or DnD?

What keeps me sane is recognizing that things are going to changes dramatically in the next 10 years once all you Boomers start dropping like flies.

And these changes are going to be more American First and for the better.

Yeah, probably not. Here's why. As you age you recognize that in life your neighbors matter. Living in Houston's 3rd Ward is very different than living in the rich suburbs of Dallas. In the case of the world and the US, it's pretty clear that we won't be able to count on Europe. But yet, you will be sitting back and enjoying your imported oil that Trump and others have secured for you.

The truth is guys like you would allow China to roll over the rest of the planet unchecked, and say that it doesn't matter because they don't impact your daily life. But they will affect your kids and your grandkids life. Our very involvement in WW1 and WW2 advanced liberty. So yeah, today you're not smart enough to know when to be involved and when not to be because your criteria is "impacts your daily life". Sometimes the US has to stand for liberty in other parts of the world. We don't have to be the world police, but when it clearly has national security implications, then it's a lot more difficult to just walk away and let China and Russia continue to undermine the US and the West.


I have lived through your foreign policy my entire life and it has been an abject failure.

Millennials are going to be the first generation that will be objectively poorer than their parents generation.

Boomers have dug such a deep hole there may not even be a country left by the time I am your age.


Not my foreign policy, I'm good with America first. I just don't think America first has nothing to do with others. There are strategic points outside the US that warrant our involvement. Drawing the line can be tough and not exact.

But yes the generations preceding you have failed you. It's been the financial policies primarily as to why you are worse off. Trump is an imperfect attempt to address the prior failings. It will take many years of America first policy to right the ship. No leader will be perfect, but at least the ship has altered course in a direction that can be saved.
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In reply to boognish_bear • 12:46a, 1/14/26
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"It's a shame about all of that completely spontaneous, not-orchestrated-by-the-US political violence that y'all are experiencing. Maybe we can get together and negotiate a solution."
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In reply to Sam Lowry • 5:43a, 1/14/26
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boognish_bear said:

"It's a shame about all of that completely spontaneous, not-orchestrated-by-the-US political violence that y'all are experiencing. Maybe we can get together and negotiate a solution."

"Hey, guys....I got an idea. Hold on to your turbans. Let's start shooting our own people by the thousands and promise to continue until America agrees to negotiate with us. Then, we'll blame Trump and the Jews for causing the crisis in the first place. The America conspiracy wackos will go absolutely orgasmic. "
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In reply to Sam Lowry • 6:47a, 1/14/26
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boognish_bear said:

"It's a shame about all of that completely spontaneous, not-orchestrated-by-the-US political violence that y'all are experiencing. Maybe we can get together and negotiate a solution."


Using your logic SWAT and hostage negotiators are crime bosses.

It's just as likely that your pro-CCP rhetoric is coming from a script your bosses have sent you.

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In reply to Sam Lowry • 8:42a, 1/14/26
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boognish_bear said:

"It's a shame about all of that completely spontaneous, not-orchestrated-by-the-US political violence that y'all are experiencing. Maybe we can get together and negotiate a solution."

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In reply to muddybrazos • 2:00p, 1/14/26
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Porn? I'm in!


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2:40p, 1/14/26
What can the USA do to help the protestors other than economic sanctions?

Military options could be messy. I guess they could bomb IRG sites, or sites that manufacture drones and missles. Maybe take out Khamenei?
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In reply to boognish_bear • 3:41p, 1/14/26
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On FlightRadar24, I see 3 tankers south on Honolulu flying racetrack patterns.

They could be regular training missions or that could be the fueling location for flights coming from the US.

The fact that they are flying a racetrack pattern rather than making progress towards the west makes me believe it's training.

Polymarket has been a good predictor for a lot of things. However, tankers don't head to Iran. They head to a theater and for the most part, stay out of harms way.
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In reply to boognish_bear • 7:29p, 1/14/26
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Considering the state of their air defenses, Iran is basically screwed right about now.

That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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In reply to LIB,MR BEARS • 7:47p, 1/14/26
LIB,MR BEARS said:
boognish_bear said:

On FlightRadar24, I see 3 tankers south on Honolulu flying racetrack patterns.

They could be regular training missions or that could be the fueling location for flights coming from the US.

The fact that they are flying a racetrack pattern rather than making progress towards the west makes me believe it's training.

Polymarket has been a good predictor for a lot of things. However, tankers don't head to Iran. They head to a theater and for the most part, stay out of harms way.

Agreed on the training point. flight paths from Whiteman AFB to Iran do not go south of the Equator. They go over......GREENLAND.

There does, however, appear to be a repositioning of assets. Extra tankers in Hawaii could easily be moved again to Diego Garcia, which has already received augmented bomber airframes.

It makes sense to launch a single strike on Iran from Whiteman, but if we're talking about a sustained bombing campaign, logistics make a bit more sense to launch from DG.
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 7:48p, 1/14/26
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boognish_bear said:

Considering the state of their air defenses, Iran is basically screwed right about now.



Gotta wonder about their ground forces as well

How much equipment/artillery/heavy weapons/ect. did they ship off to proxies and allies in Syria, Yemen, Iraq shi'ite militias, and Hezbollah in Lebanon?

All wars and military actions that mostly ended in failure.

We know it was costly for them. But how much arms of their own did they lend and send.

Did they degrade their military at home to play geo-political regional power far from home.
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8:01p, 1/14/26
The silence from the Omnicause LWNJs is shocking but not shocking. Amazing how they hate Jews and love radical Muslims. It's hard to take these people seriously.
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In reply to whiterock • 9:41p, 1/14/26
whiterock said:
LIB,MR BEARS said:
boognish_bear said:

On FlightRadar24, I see 3 tankers south on Honolulu flying racetrack patterns.

They could be regular training missions or that could be the fueling location for flights coming from the US.

The fact that they are flying a racetrack pattern rather than making progress towards the west makes me believe it's training.

Polymarket has been a good predictor for a lot of things. However, tankers don't head to Iran. They head to a theater and for the most part, stay out of harms way.

Agreed on the training point. flight paths from Whiteman AFB to Iran do not go south of the Equator. They go over......GREENLAND.

There does, however, appear to be a repositioning of assets. Extra tankers in Hawaii could easily be moved again to Diego Garcia, which has already received augmented bomber airframes.

It makes sense to launch a single strike on Iran from Whiteman, but if we're talking about a sustained bombing campaign, logistics make a bit more sense to launch from DG.


How much does all this re-positioning of assets and supplying bases on the ass end of nowhere cost the American taxpayer?

Or do you just not care bcs you are old and wont be around when the check is due anyway?

Is so revolting that Boomers are the first generation to leave the next generation demonstrably poorer than they were.
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In reply to The_barBEARian • 6:01a, 1/15/26
The_barBEARian said:
whiterock said:
LIB,MR BEARS said:
boognish_bear said:

On FlightRadar24, I see 3 tankers south on Honolulu flying racetrack patterns.

They could be regular training missions or that could be the fueling location for flights coming from the US.

The fact that they are flying a racetrack pattern rather than making progress towards the west makes me believe it's training.

Polymarket has been a good predictor for a lot of things. However, tankers don't head to Iran. They head to a theater and for the most part, stay out of harms way.

Agreed on the training point. flight paths from Whiteman AFB to Iran do not go south of the Equator. They go over......GREENLAND.

There does, however, appear to be a repositioning of assets. Extra tankers in Hawaii could easily be moved again to Diego Garcia, which has already received augmented bomber airframes.

It makes sense to launch a single strike on Iran from Whiteman, but if we're talking about a sustained bombing campaign, logistics make a bit more sense to launch from DG.


How much does all this re-positioning of assets and supplying bases on the ass end of nowhere cost the American taxpayer?

Or do you just not care bcs you are old and wont be around when the check is due anyway?

Is so revolting that Boomers are the first generation to leave the next generation demonstrably poorer than they were.

Can you identify a time when the USG has had no public debt?
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In reply to Redbrickbear • 11:14a, 1/15/26
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President Trump is a master at making people think the US has "chickened out." And then....
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In reply to Redbrickbear • 11:23a, 1/15/26
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Persians are very bright people........

- UF

D!

.... an absolute travesty what jjapppened to them.

- tbp*

p*D!

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In reply to boognish_bear • 12:14p, 1/15/26
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Count me in the 70%
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In reply to muddybrazos • 1:39p, 1/15/26
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boognish_bear said:

Count me in the 70%


For me it depends on how involved we are talking.

Bush era land wars and regime change occupations that take a decade and costs trillions? Heck no

Trump type shock attack or special operations night abduction with some kind of missile strike on leadership to destabilize the Regime? Far more open to that kind of limited intervention
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In reply to Redbrickbear • 1:40p, 1/15/26
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muddybrazos said:
boognish_bear said:

Count me in the 70%


For me it depends on how involved we are talking.

Bush era land wars and regime change occupations that take a decade and costs trillions? Heck no

Trump type shock attack or special operations night abduction with some kind of missile strike on leadership to destabilize the Regime? Far more open to that kind of limited intervention

Agreed. I was just about to say it depends on the specific actions taken.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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In reply to Redbrickbear • 1:47p, 1/15/26
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muddybrazos said:
boognish_bear said:

Count me in the 70%


For me it depends on how involved we are talking.

Bush era land wars and regime change occupations that take a decade and costs trillions? Heck no

Trump type shock attack or special operations night abduction with some kind of missile strike on leadership to destabilize the Regime? Far more open to that kind of limited intervention

What comes next? Some Israeli puppet is installed? Sorry if i dont have faith that this works out well. Look at Syria where Christians are being slaughtered and some al quaida/isis guy is the leader but he is a puppet of Tel aviv.
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In reply to Redbrickbear • 1:55p, 1/15/26
Redbrickbear said:
muddybrazos said:
boognish_bear said:

Count me in the 70%


For me it depends on how involved we are talking.

Bush era land wars and regime change occupations that take a decade and costs trillions? Heck no

Trump type shock attack or special operations night abduction with some kind of missile strike on leadership to destabilize the Regime? Far more open to that kind of limited intervention

It may be a golden opportunity to take care of a wart on the ass of humanity.

Some well placed bombs by CIA/Mossad assets and a few tomahawks could go a long way.

I'm definitely not in favor of anything large scale.
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In reply to BearFan33 • 2:24p, 1/15/26
BearFan33 said:
Redbrickbear said:
muddybrazos said:
boognish_bear said:

Count me in the 70%


For me it depends on how involved we are talking.

Bush era land wars and regime change occupations that take a decade and costs trillions? Heck no

Trump type shock attack or special operations night abduction with some kind of missile strike on leadership to destabilize the Regime? Far more open to that kind of limited intervention

It may be a golden opportunity to take care of a wart on the ass of humanity.

Some well placed bombs by CIA/Mossad assets and a few tomahawks could go a long way.

I'm definitely not in favor of anything large scale.


Why?

Why do we give a **** who is in charge of Iran?

The more I think about Greenland... the more I support a military intervention there if it leads to the destruction of NATO, the EU, and the left wing, globalist authoritarian governments all across Europe who are ethnically replacing the native people.

If war in Greenland precipitated a well-spring of nationalist, pro-native populations of Europe uprisings and regime changes - I would fully support it.

**** fighting sand people wars in the middle east. Focus on America and the restoring nationalism to Europe and the Anglosphere.
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