Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Wangchung said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Mothra said:

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Forest Bueller III said:

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Mothra said:

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boognish_bear said:

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This individual was arrested for assaulting federal law enforcement officers under 18 U.S.C 111, assaulting, resisting, or impeding federal officers. https://t.co/792ZWVyXPU

— Homeland Security (@DHSgov) January 12, 2026

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I know of no law that says you have the right to resist arrest, even if wrongfully detained. There are civil lawsuits filed everyday based on violations of the constitution. This guy might have a case. But that doesn't mean you can take the law into your own hands.

---

This incident is emblematic of my major issue with these "raids".

They are just "fishing" they have no idea who is or who isn't illegal.

Everybody would have issue with them doing this to their own American citizen child,
who might have gotten a great tan over the summer and suddenly be targeted.

---

Agree on this, and have several clients affected by it. But even if my son was targeted, my advice would be to comply with the officer's requests, and not resist arrest, unless he wants to get seriously injured or even killed.

We have the judiciary to sort out the details.

---

Who are you complying with? We are now seeing "fake" ICE, people who are wearing military gear and harassing people on the street because ICE is not identifying themselves.

This is a sad time in our history. There's a video of a handcuffed female detainee being taken into a portapotty by an ICE agent while his partner stays in the car.

And none of this is remotely effective.

---

Oh no! Well I guess we can't enforce immigration laws anymore. Darn it.

---

Don't be obtuse. What other law do we enforce by grabbing random people and forcing them to prove their innocence?

Maybe we should militarize the IRS and have them grave citizens in Highland Park and force them to show their tax returns or set up road blocks to make sure everyone has a license.

Mr. Chung, it's not happening to you, so it's ok?

---

By masked agents? If being asked to prove your innocence you should have the right to see your accuser. This is South American death squad stuff, not US Federal Agents.

2 years ago there was out cry on this Board about the tacticalization of the Federal Government and law enforcement, not to mention the weaponization of Agencies. Now under Trump it is not only ok, but growing.

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Are you comparing ICE going after foreign invaders to the FBI going after Jan 6ers?

One group came here to loot and pillage, the other group came to stop their own government from stealing an election.

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I am talking stopping people on the steet in daylight. These are not DEA tactical raids breaking into a house to get them. It is in the middle of the street with civilians around. Tactical Used to be for a specific operation, this is day to day. One of those guys could stip me or you,we have no recourse. We will be zip tied and thrown in the system having to prove innocence to masked gunman. All they need is for that AEGIS illegal radar to be turned on us. Get it, there is no accountability. No info on how many were legal. What evidence to go after them. That matters.
.

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Gee, what changed? Oh right, 4 years of Biden's administration literally holding open border fencing and flooding our nation with illegals. You don't get to have your guy flood the country illegally and then worry that our guy is cleaning up your guys mess in a way you dislike. You cheered the mess, so we don't care about your opinions on the clean up.

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Followed by a textbook example of partisan irrationality.

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Of course you see it that way, you're extremely biased. So when someone posts false accusations against ICE you put your knees on top of their feet and swallow it whole.

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I'll be the first to reject any accusations that are false. The difference between us is that I care one way or the other. Your answer to any accusation is "Biden."

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Yeah, because we look at root causes in discussions about the border. You don't get to lambast THIS administration over using extreme legal measures to combat the problem then demand we don't bring up who caused it intentionally. (Hint; the same people who are pretending to be outraged now are the ones who caused it)
You supported his false claim that agents are just randomly grabbing people off the street. You supported the false claim that agents aren't accountable to anyone and citizens are getting disappeared. So yes, you ABSOLUTELY accept and endorse false accusations.

---

You can bring up your conspiracy theories to whatever extent they're relevant, but even if true they don't justify lawlessness in response. Period.

I don't know whether citizens are getting disappeared, and that wasn't his point. I know enough about history to know that without due process, they easily can be.

Facebook going great pic.twitter.com/pMm1pSovc4

— Chase Mitchell (@ChaseMit) January 14, 2026

Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Wangchung said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Mothra said:

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Forest Bueller III said:

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Mothra said:

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boognish_bear said:

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This individual was arrested for assaulting federal law enforcement officers under 18 U.S.C 111, assaulting, resisting, or impeding federal officers. https://t.co/792ZWVyXPU

— Homeland Security (@DHSgov) January 12, 2026

---

I know of no law that says you have the right to resist arrest, even if wrongfully detained. There are civil lawsuits filed everyday based on violations of the constitution. This guy might have a case. But that doesn't mean you can take the law into your own hands.

---

This incident is emblematic of my major issue with these "raids".

They are just "fishing" they have no idea who is or who isn't illegal.

Everybody would have issue with them doing this to their own American citizen child,
who might have gotten a great tan over the summer and suddenly be targeted.

---

Agree on this, and have several clients affected by it. But even if my son was targeted, my advice would be to comply with the officer's requests, and not resist arrest, unless he wants to get seriously injured or even killed.

We have the judiciary to sort out the details.

---

Who are you complying with? We are now seeing "fake" ICE, people who are wearing military gear and harassing people on the street because ICE is not identifying themselves.

This is a sad time in our history. There's a video of a handcuffed female detainee being taken into a portapotty by an ICE agent while his partner stays in the car.

And none of this is remotely effective.

---

Oh no! Well I guess we can't enforce immigration laws anymore. Darn it.

---

Don't be obtuse. What other law do we enforce by grabbing random people and forcing them to prove their innocence?

Maybe we should militarize the IRS and have them grave citizens in Highland Park and force them to show their tax returns or set up road blocks to make sure everyone has a license.

Mr. Chung, it's not happening to you, so it's ok?

---

By masked agents? If being asked to prove your innocence you should have the right to see your accuser. This is South American death squad stuff, not US Federal Agents.

2 years ago there was out cry on this Board about the tacticalization of the Federal Government and law enforcement, not to mention the weaponization of Agencies. Now under Trump it is not only ok, but growing.

---

Are you comparing ICE going after foreign invaders to the FBI going after Jan 6ers?

One group came here to loot and pillage, the other group came to stop their own government from stealing an election.

---

I am talking stopping people on the steet in daylight. These are not DEA tactical raids breaking into a house to get them. It is in the middle of the street with civilians around. Tactical Used to be for a specific operation, this is day to day. One of those guys could stip me or you,we have no recourse. We will be zip tied and thrown in the system having to prove innocence to masked gunman. All they need is for that AEGIS illegal radar to be turned on us. Get it, there is no accountability. No info on how many were legal. What evidence to go after them. That matters.
.

---

Gee, what changed? Oh right, 4 years of Biden's administration literally holding open border fencing and flooding our nation with illegals. You don't get to have your guy flood the country illegally and then worry that our guy is cleaning up your guys mess in a way you dislike. You cheered the mess, so we don't care about your opinions on the clean up.

---

Followed by a textbook example of partisan irrationality.

---

Of course you see it that way, you're extremely biased. So when someone posts false accusations against ICE you put your knees on top of their feet and swallow it whole.

---

I'll be the first to reject any accusations that are false. The difference between us is that I care one way or the other. Your answer to any accusation is "Biden."

---

Yeah, because we look at root causes in discussions about the border. You don't get to lambast THIS administration over using extreme legal measures to combat the problem then demand we don't bring up who caused it intentionally. (Hint; the same people who are pretending to be outraged now are the ones who caused it)
You supported his false claim that agents are just randomly grabbing people off the street. You supported the false claim that agents aren't accountable to anyone and citizens are getting disappeared. So yes, you ABSOLUTELY accept and endorse false accusations.

---

You can bring up your conspiracy theories to whatever extent they're relevant, but even if true they don't justify lawlessness in response. Period.

I don't know whether citizens are getting disappeared, and that wasn't his point. I know enough about history to know that without due process, they easily can be.

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He made claims, specific claims, that are false. You endorsed his post. You help spread lies and misinformation because you lost a fellow Democrat when Good was shot.

boognish_bear said:

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Facebook going great pic.twitter.com/pMm1pSovc4

— Chase Mitchell (@ChaseMit) January 14, 2026

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pic.twitter.com/62705fDER1

— brengroyper (@brengroyper) January 15, 2026

boognish_bear said:

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BREAKING: Trump threatens to use the Insurrection Act, allowing him to deploy troops to end protests in Minneapolis. https://t.co/EYEQp2f6DR

— The Associated Press (@AP) January 15, 2026

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lol why is the AP using a picture of Greenland for Minnesota?

Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Wangchung said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Mothra said:

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Forest Bueller III said:

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Mothra said:

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boognish_bear said:

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This individual was arrested for assaulting federal law enforcement officers under 18 U.S.C 111, assaulting, resisting, or impeding federal officers. https://t.co/792ZWVyXPU

— Homeland Security (@DHSgov) January 12, 2026

---

I know of no law that says you have the right to resist arrest, even if wrongfully detained. There are civil lawsuits filed everyday based on violations of the constitution. This guy might have a case. But that doesn't mean you can take the law into your own hands.

---

This incident is emblematic of my major issue with these "raids".

They are just "fishing" they have no idea who is or who isn't illegal.

Everybody would have issue with them doing this to their own American citizen child,
who might have gotten a great tan over the summer and suddenly be targeted.

---

Agree on this, and have several clients affected by it. But even if my son was targeted, my advice would be to comply with the officer's requests, and not resist arrest, unless he wants to get seriously injured or even killed.

We have the judiciary to sort out the details.

---

Who are you complying with? We are now seeing "fake" ICE, people who are wearing military gear and harassing people on the street because ICE is not identifying themselves.

This is a sad time in our history. There's a video of a handcuffed female detainee being taken into a portapotty by an ICE agent while his partner stays in the car.

And none of this is remotely effective.

---

Oh no! Well I guess we can't enforce immigration laws anymore. Darn it.

---

Don't be obtuse. What other law do we enforce by grabbing random people and forcing them to prove their innocence?

Maybe we should militarize the IRS and have them grave citizens in Highland Park and force them to show their tax returns or set up road blocks to make sure everyone has a license.

Mr. Chung, it's not happening to you, so it's ok?

---

By masked agents? If being asked to prove your innocence you should have the right to see your accuser. This is South American death squad stuff, not US Federal Agents.

2 years ago there was out cry on this Board about the tacticalization of the Federal Government and law enforcement, not to mention the weaponization of Agencies. Now under Trump it is not only ok, but growing.

---

Are you comparing ICE going after foreign invaders to the FBI going after Jan 6ers?

One group came here to loot and pillage, the other group came to stop their own government from stealing an election.

---

I am talking stopping people on the steet in daylight. These are not DEA tactical raids breaking into a house to get them. It is in the middle of the street with civilians around. Tactical Used to be for a specific operation, this is day to day. One of those guys could stip me or you,we have no recourse. We will be zip tied and thrown in the system having to prove innocence to masked gunman. All they need is for that AEGIS illegal radar to be turned on us. Get it, there is no accountability. No info on how many were legal. What evidence to go after them. That matters.
.

---

Gee, what changed? Oh right, 4 years of Biden's administration literally holding open border fencing and flooding our nation with illegals. You don't get to have your guy flood the country illegally and then worry that our guy is cleaning up your guys mess in a way you dislike. You cheered the mess, so we don't care about your opinions on the clean up.

---

Followed by a textbook example of partisan irrationality.

---

Of course you see it that way, you're extremely biased. So when someone posts false accusations against ICE you put your knees on top of their feet and swallow it whole.

---

I'll be the first to reject any accusations that are false. The difference between us is that I care one way or the other. Your answer to any accusation is "Biden."

---

Yeah, because we look at root causes in discussions about the border. You don't get to lambast THIS administration over using extreme legal measures to combat the problem then demand we don't bring up who caused it intentionally. (Hint; the same people who are pretending to be outraged now are the ones who caused it)
You supported his false claim that agents are just randomly grabbing people off the street. You supported the false claim that agents aren't accountable to anyone and citizens are getting disappeared. So yes, you ABSOLUTELY accept and endorse false accusations.

---

You can bring up your conspiracy theories to whatever extent they're relevant, but even if true they don't justify lawlessness in response. Period.

I don't know whether citizens are getting disappeared, and that wasn't his point. I know enough about history to know that without due process, they easily can be.

---

He made claims, specific claims, that are false. You endorsed his post. You help spread lies and misinformation because you lost a fellow Democrat when Good was shot.

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Willful blindness on your part doesn't make the claims false. See the Target store video that was posted here just recently.

Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Wangchung said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Mothra said:

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Forest Bueller III said:

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Mothra said:

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boognish_bear said:

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This individual was arrested for assaulting federal law enforcement officers under 18 U.S.C 111, assaulting, resisting, or impeding federal officers. https://t.co/792ZWVyXPU

— Homeland Security (@DHSgov) January 12, 2026

---

I know of no law that says you have the right to resist arrest, even if wrongfully detained. There are civil lawsuits filed everyday based on violations of the constitution. This guy might have a case. But that doesn't mean you can take the law into your own hands.

---

This incident is emblematic of my major issue with these "raids".

They are just "fishing" they have no idea who is or who isn't illegal.

Everybody would have issue with them doing this to their own American citizen child,
who might have gotten a great tan over the summer and suddenly be targeted.

---

Agree on this, and have several clients affected by it. But even if my son was targeted, my advice would be to comply with the officer's requests, and not resist arrest, unless he wants to get seriously injured or even killed.

We have the judiciary to sort out the details.

---

Who are you complying with? We are now seeing "fake" ICE, people who are wearing military gear and harassing people on the street because ICE is not identifying themselves.

This is a sad time in our history. There's a video of a handcuffed female detainee being taken into a portapotty by an ICE agent while his partner stays in the car.

And none of this is remotely effective.

---

Oh no! Well I guess we can't enforce immigration laws anymore. Darn it.

---

Don't be obtuse. What other law do we enforce by grabbing random people and forcing them to prove their innocence?

Maybe we should militarize the IRS and have them grave citizens in Highland Park and force them to show their tax returns or set up road blocks to make sure everyone has a license.

Mr. Chung, it's not happening to you, so it's ok?

---

By masked agents? If being asked to prove your innocence you should have the right to see your accuser. This is South American death squad stuff, not US Federal Agents.

2 years ago there was out cry on this Board about the tacticalization of the Federal Government and law enforcement, not to mention the weaponization of Agencies. Now under Trump it is not only ok, but growing.

---

Are you comparing ICE going after foreign invaders to the FBI going after Jan 6ers?

One group came here to loot and pillage, the other group came to stop their own government from stealing an election.

---

I am talking stopping people on the steet in daylight. These are not DEA tactical raids breaking into a house to get them. It is in the middle of the street with civilians around. Tactical Used to be for a specific operation, this is day to day. One of those guys could stip me or you,we have no recourse. We will be zip tied and thrown in the system having to prove innocence to masked gunman. All they need is for that AEGIS illegal radar to be turned on us. Get it, there is no accountability. No info on how many were legal. What evidence to go after them. That matters.
.

---

Gee, what changed? Oh right, 4 years of Biden's administration literally holding open border fencing and flooding our nation with illegals. You don't get to have your guy flood the country illegally and then worry that our guy is cleaning up your guys mess in a way you dislike. You cheered the mess, so we don't care about your opinions on the clean up.

---

Followed by a textbook example of partisan irrationality.

---

Of course you see it that way, you're extremely biased. So when someone posts false accusations against ICE you put your knees on top of their feet and swallow it whole.

---

I'll be the first to reject any accusations that are false. The difference between us is that I care one way or the other. Your answer to any accusation is "Biden."

---

Yeah, because we look at root causes in discussions about the border. You don't get to lambast THIS administration over using extreme legal measures to combat the problem then demand we don't bring up who caused it intentionally. (Hint; the same people who are pretending to be outraged now are the ones who caused it)
You supported his false claim that agents are just randomly grabbing people off the street. You supported the false claim that agents aren't accountable to anyone and citizens are getting disappeared. So yes, you ABSOLUTELY accept and endorse false accusations.

---

You can bring up your conspiracy theories to whatever extent they're relevant, but even if true they don't justify lawlessness in response. Period.

I don't know whether citizens are getting disappeared, and that wasn't his point. I know enough about history to know that without due process, they easily can be.

---

He made claims, specific claims, that are false. You endorsed his post. You help spread lies and misinformation because you lost a fellow Democrat when Good was shot.

---

Willful blindness on your part doesn't make the claims false. See the Target store video that was posted here just recently.

---

They are not grabbing random people off the street. They are not disappearing citizens nor illegals. They are not doing all this without a paper trail or any accountability.

---

Of course they are. There are hundreds of legal claims attesting to the fact.

Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Wangchung said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Mothra said:

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Forest Bueller III said:

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Mothra said:

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boognish_bear said:

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This individual was arrested for assaulting federal law enforcement officers under 18 U.S.C 111, assaulting, resisting, or impeding federal officers. https://t.co/792ZWVyXPU

— Homeland Security (@DHSgov) January 12, 2026

---

I know of no law that says you have the right to resist arrest, even if wrongfully detained. There are civil lawsuits filed everyday based on violations of the constitution. This guy might have a case. But that doesn't mean you can take the law into your own hands.

---

This incident is emblematic of my major issue with these "raids".

They are just "fishing" they have no idea who is or who isn't illegal.

Everybody would have issue with them doing this to their own American citizen child,
who might have gotten a great tan over the summer and suddenly be targeted.

---

Agree on this, and have several clients affected by it. But even if my son was targeted, my advice would be to comply with the officer's requests, and not resist arrest, unless he wants to get seriously injured or even killed.

We have the judiciary to sort out the details.

---

Who are you complying with? We are now seeing "fake" ICE, people who are wearing military gear and harassing people on the street because ICE is not identifying themselves.

This is a sad time in our history. There's a video of a handcuffed female detainee being taken into a portapotty by an ICE agent while his partner stays in the car.

And none of this is remotely effective.

---

Oh no! Well I guess we can't enforce immigration laws anymore. Darn it.

---

Don't be obtuse. What other law do we enforce by grabbing random people and forcing them to prove their innocence?

Maybe we should militarize the IRS and have them grave citizens in Highland Park and force them to show their tax returns or set up road blocks to make sure everyone has a license.

Mr. Chung, it's not happening to you, so it's ok?

---

By masked agents? If being asked to prove your innocence you should have the right to see your accuser. This is South American death squad stuff, not US Federal Agents.

2 years ago there was out cry on this Board about the tacticalization of the Federal Government and law enforcement, not to mention the weaponization of Agencies. Now under Trump it is not only ok, but growing.

---

Are you comparing ICE going after foreign invaders to the FBI going after Jan 6ers?

One group came here to loot and pillage, the other group came to stop their own government from stealing an election.

---

I am talking stopping people on the steet in daylight. These are not DEA tactical raids breaking into a house to get them. It is in the middle of the street with civilians around. Tactical Used to be for a specific operation, this is day to day. One of those guys could stip me or you,we have no recourse. We will be zip tied and thrown in the system having to prove innocence to masked gunman. All they need is for that AEGIS illegal radar to be turned on us. Get it, there is no accountability. No info on how many were legal. What evidence to go after them. That matters.
.

---

Gee, what changed? Oh right, 4 years of Biden's administration literally holding open border fencing and flooding our nation with illegals. You don't get to have your guy flood the country illegally and then worry that our guy is cleaning up your guys mess in a way you dislike. You cheered the mess, so we don't care about your opinions on the clean up.

---

Followed by a textbook example of partisan irrationality.

---

Of course you see it that way, you're extremely biased. So when someone posts false accusations against ICE you put your knees on top of their feet and swallow it whole.

---

I'll be the first to reject any accusations that are false. The difference between us is that I care one way or the other. Your answer to any accusation is "Biden."

---

Yeah, because we look at root causes in discussions about the border. You don't get to lambast THIS administration over using extreme legal measures to combat the problem then demand we don't bring up who caused it intentionally. (Hint; the same people who are pretending to be outraged now are the ones who caused it)
You supported his false claim that agents are just randomly grabbing people off the street. You supported the false claim that agents aren't accountable to anyone and citizens are getting disappeared. So yes, you ABSOLUTELY accept and endorse false accusations.

---

You can bring up your conspiracy theories to whatever extent they're relevant, but even if true they don't justify lawlessness in response. Period.

I don't know whether citizens are getting disappeared, and that wasn't his point. I know enough about history to know that without due process, they easily can be.

---

He made claims, specific claims, that are false. You endorsed his post. You help spread lies and misinformation because you lost a fellow Democrat when Good was shot.

---

Willful blindness on your part doesn't make the claims false. See the Target store video that was posted here just recently.

---

They are not grabbing random people off the street. They are not disappearing citizens nor illegals. They are not doing all this without a paper trail or any accountability.

---

Of course they are. There are hundreds of legal claims attesting to the fact.

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Of course there are hundreds of claims. Claims don't mean **** coming from you and your ilk. You think because some fat dyke CLAIMS she saw ICE without identification out kidnapping Americans we just take it as fact? Hilarious. What a **** opinion you have there.

Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Wangchung said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Mothra said:

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Forest Bueller III said:

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Mothra said:

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boognish_bear said:

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This individual was arrested for assaulting federal law enforcement officers under 18 U.S.C 111, assaulting, resisting, or impeding federal officers. https://t.co/792ZWVyXPU

— Homeland Security (@DHSgov) January 12, 2026

---

I know of no law that says you have the right to resist arrest, even if wrongfully detained. There are civil lawsuits filed everyday based on violations of the constitution. This guy might have a case. But that doesn't mean you can take the law into your own hands.

---

This incident is emblematic of my major issue with these "raids".

They are just "fishing" they have no idea who is or who isn't illegal.

Everybody would have issue with them doing this to their own American citizen child,
who might have gotten a great tan over the summer and suddenly be targeted.

---

Agree on this, and have several clients affected by it. But even if my son was targeted, my advice would be to comply with the officer's requests, and not resist arrest, unless he wants to get seriously injured or even killed.

We have the judiciary to sort out the details.

---

Who are you complying with? We are now seeing "fake" ICE, people who are wearing military gear and harassing people on the street because ICE is not identifying themselves.

This is a sad time in our history. There's a video of a handcuffed female detainee being taken into a portapotty by an ICE agent while his partner stays in the car.

And none of this is remotely effective.

---

Oh no! Well I guess we can't enforce immigration laws anymore. Darn it.

---

Don't be obtuse. What other law do we enforce by grabbing random people and forcing them to prove their innocence?

Maybe we should militarize the IRS and have them grave citizens in Highland Park and force them to show their tax returns or set up road blocks to make sure everyone has a license.

Mr. Chung, it's not happening to you, so it's ok?

---

By masked agents? If being asked to prove your innocence you should have the right to see your accuser. This is South American death squad stuff, not US Federal Agents.

2 years ago there was out cry on this Board about the tacticalization of the Federal Government and law enforcement, not to mention the weaponization of Agencies. Now under Trump it is not only ok, but growing.

---

Are you comparing ICE going after foreign invaders to the FBI going after Jan 6ers?

One group came here to loot and pillage, the other group came to stop their own government from stealing an election.

---

I am talking stopping people on the steet in daylight. These are not DEA tactical raids breaking into a house to get them. It is in the middle of the street with civilians around. Tactical Used to be for a specific operation, this is day to day. One of those guys could stip me or you,we have no recourse. We will be zip tied and thrown in the system having to prove innocence to masked gunman. All they need is for that AEGIS illegal radar to be turned on us. Get it, there is no accountability. No info on how many were legal. What evidence to go after them. That matters.
.

---

Gee, what changed? Oh right, 4 years of Biden's administration literally holding open border fencing and flooding our nation with illegals. You don't get to have your guy flood the country illegally and then worry that our guy is cleaning up your guys mess in a way you dislike. You cheered the mess, so we don't care about your opinions on the clean up.

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Followed by a textbook example of partisan irrationality.

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Of course you see it that way, you're extremely biased. So when someone posts false accusations against ICE you put your knees on top of their feet and swallow it whole.

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I'll be the first to reject any accusations that are false. The difference between us is that I care one way or the other. Your answer to any accusation is "Biden."

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Yeah, because we look at root causes in discussions about the border. You don't get to lambast THIS administration over using extreme legal measures to combat the problem then demand we don't bring up who caused it intentionally. (Hint; the same people who are pretending to be outraged now are the ones who caused it)
You supported his false claim that agents are just randomly grabbing people off the street. You supported the false claim that agents aren't accountable to anyone and citizens are getting disappeared. So yes, you ABSOLUTELY accept and endorse false accusations.

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You can bring up your conspiracy theories to whatever extent they're relevant, but even if true they don't justify lawlessness in response. Period.

I don't know whether citizens are getting disappeared, and that wasn't his point. I know enough about history to know that without due process, they easily can be.

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He made claims, specific claims, that are false. You endorsed his post. You help spread lies and misinformation because you lost a fellow Democrat when Good was shot.

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Willful blindness on your part doesn't make the claims false. See the Target store video that was posted here just recently.

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They are not grabbing random people off the street. They are not disappearing citizens nor illegals. They are not doing all this without a paper trail or any accountability.

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Of course they are. There are hundreds of legal claims attesting to the fact.

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Of course there are hundreds of claims. Claims don't mean **** coming from you and your ilk. You think because some fat dyke CLAIMS she saw ICE without identification out kidnapping Americans we just take it as fact? Hilarious. What a **** opinion you have there.

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Lawsuits have to be filed by someone with standing, in these cases typically a family member or someone acting on the victim's behalf. Like I said, the evidence is there. You just don't want to see it.

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This individual was arrested for assaulting federal law enforcement officers under 18 U.S.C 111, assaulting, resisting, or impeding federal officers. https://t.co/792ZWVyXPU

— Homeland Security (@DHSgov) January 12, 2026

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I know of no law that says you have the right to resist arrest, even if wrongfully detained. There are civil lawsuits filed everyday based on violations of the constitution. This guy might have a case. But that doesn't mean you can take the law into your own hands.

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This incident is emblematic of my major issue with these "raids".

They are just "fishing" they have no idea who is or who isn't illegal.

Everybody would have issue with them doing this to their own American citizen child,
who might have gotten a great tan over the summer and suddenly be targeted.

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Agree on this, and have several clients affected by it. But even if my son was targeted, my advice would be to comply with the officer's requests, and not resist arrest, unless he wants to get seriously injured or even killed.

We have the judiciary to sort out the details.

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Who are you complying with? We are now seeing "fake" ICE, people who are wearing military gear and harassing people on the street because ICE is not identifying themselves.

This is a sad time in our history. There's a video of a handcuffed female detainee being taken into a portapotty by an ICE agent while his partner stays in the car.

And none of this is remotely effective.

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Oh no! Well I guess we can't enforce immigration laws anymore. Darn it.

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Don't be obtuse. What other law do we enforce by grabbing random people and forcing them to prove their innocence?

Maybe we should militarize the IRS and have them grave citizens in Highland Park and force them to show their tax returns or set up road blocks to make sure everyone has a license.

Mr. Chung, it's not happening to you, so it's ok?

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By masked agents? If being asked to prove your innocence you should have the right to see your accuser. This is South American death squad stuff, not US Federal Agents.

2 years ago there was out cry on this Board about the tacticalization of the Federal Government and law enforcement, not to mention the weaponization of Agencies. Now under Trump it is not only ok, but growing.

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Are you comparing ICE going after foreign invaders to the FBI going after Jan 6ers?

One group came here to loot and pillage, the other group came to stop their own government from stealing an election.

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I am talking stopping people on the steet in daylight. These are not DEA tactical raids breaking into a house to get them. It is in the middle of the street with civilians around. Tactical Used to be for a specific operation, this is day to day. One of those guys could stip me or you,we have no recourse. We will be zip tied and thrown in the system having to prove innocence to masked gunman. All they need is for that AEGIS illegal radar to be turned on us. Get it, there is no accountability. No info on how many were legal. What evidence to go after them. That matters.
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Gee, what changed? Oh right, 4 years of Biden's administration literally holding open border fencing and flooding our nation with illegals. You don't get to have your guy flood the country illegally and then worry that our guy is cleaning up your guys mess in a way you dislike. You cheered the mess, so we don't care about your opinions on the clean up.

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Followed by a textbook example of partisan irrationality.

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Of course you see it that way, you're extremely biased. So when someone posts false accusations against ICE you put your knees on top of their feet and swallow it whole.

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I'll be the first to reject any accusations that are false. The difference between us is that I care one way or the other. Your answer to any accusation is "Biden."

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Yeah, because we look at root causes in discussions about the border. You don't get to lambast THIS administration over using extreme legal measures to combat the problem then demand we don't bring up who caused it intentionally. (Hint; the same people who are pretending to be outraged now are the ones who caused it)
You supported his false claim that agents are just randomly grabbing people off the street. You supported the false claim that agents aren't accountable to anyone and citizens are getting disappeared. So yes, you ABSOLUTELY accept and endorse false accusations.

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You can bring up your conspiracy theories to whatever extent they're relevant, but even if true they don't justify lawlessness in response. Period.

I don't know whether citizens are getting disappeared, and that wasn't his point. I know enough about history to know that without due process, they easily can be.

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He made claims, specific claims, that are false. You endorsed his post. You help spread lies and misinformation because you lost a fellow Democrat when Good was shot.

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Willful blindness on your part doesn't make the claims false. See the Target store video that was posted here just recently.

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They are not grabbing random people off the street. They are not disappearing citizens nor illegals. They are not doing all this without a paper trail or any accountability.

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Of course they are. There are hundreds of legal claims attesting to the fact.

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Of course there are hundreds of claims. Claims don't mean **** coming from you and your ilk. You think because some fat dyke CLAIMS she saw ICE without identification out kidnapping Americans we just take it as fact? Hilarious. What a **** opinion you have there.

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Lawsuits have to be filed by someone with standing, in these cases typically a family member or someone acting on the victim's behalf. Like I said, the evidence is there. You just don't want to see it.

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Lawsuits can be filed against a ham sandwich. Try again. "We know it's happening but we won't have any evidence until someone brings a lawsuit!!!"

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Sam: " Lawsuits have to be filed by someone with standing, in these cases typically a family member. Like I said, the evidence is there. You just don't want to see it."

1. Filing a lawsuit does not mean you have standing. Come on Sam, you said that yourself when you were trashing the lawsuits filed over the 2020 elections;

2. Even if you have standing, that does not mean you have evidence that will stand up in court. Something else you yourself have said, Sam.

Dude, you aren't even using the same standards you used in other cases!

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If I were Sam I would try to compare it to claims of voter fraud by conservatives, but even that wouldn't really work. Closer than what he's trying now, though.

Without standing the case would be dismissed. We're not debating the merits of the evidence but rather its existence. To say there's no evidence is a lie.

Furthermore, the ability to weigh evidence depends on due process. To the extent that ICE or other agencies abandon due process, they lose the benefit of the doubt.

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Without standing the case would be dismissed. We're not debating the merits of the evidence but rather its existence. To say there's no evidence is a lie.

Furthermore, the ability to weigh evidence depends on due process. To the extent that ICE or other agencies abandon due process, they lose the benefit of the doubt.

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Nope. Still not evidence of your claims. Try again.

Poor Sam, reduced to repeating claims already debunked.

No Sam, the standing for cases filed has not been determined yet. And even if standing is granted, that in no way means there is valid evidence, let alone enough to prove the case.

I get it, there is something in you that cannot stand the point that the officers are in the right here, and the protesters were the ones breaking laws.

But at some point Sam, you need to acknowledge the glaring difference between your opinion and actual facts.

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Without standing the case would be dismissed. We're not debating the merits of the evidence but rather its existence. To say there's no evidence is a lie.

Furthermore, the ability to weigh evidence depends on due process. To the extent that ICE or other agencies abandon due process, they lose the benefit of the doubt.

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Nope. Still not evidence of your claims. Try again.

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I've made my point. And for someone calling out lies, you post a lot of them.

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Without standing the case would be dismissed. We're not debating the merits of the evidence but rather its existence. To say there's no evidence is a lie.

Furthermore, the ability to weigh evidence depends on due process. To the extent that ICE or other agencies abandon due process, they lose the benefit of the doubt.

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Nope. Still not evidence of your claims. Try again.

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I've made my point. And for someone calling out lies, you post a lot of them.

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1. Telling that you get bitter when someone points out errors in your logic.

2. You still have no evidence, Sam.

Not bitter, just not wasting time. You're not going to see what you don't want to see.

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Without standing the case would be dismissed. We're not debating the merits of the evidence but rather its existence. To say there's no evidence is a lie.

Furthermore, the ability to weigh evidence depends on due process. To the extent that ICE or other agencies abandon due process, they lose the benefit of the doubt.

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Nope. Still not evidence of your claims. Try again.

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I've made my point. And for someone calling out lies, you post a lot of them.

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No evidence, lied about supporting false claims, and now claiming everyone else is a liar. Lol, sure Jan.

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Not bitter, just not wasting time. You're not going to see what you don't want to see. I can only pretend is there

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FIFY

Perhaps a contributing factor to the ICE shootings is what this reporter discovered when it appears she went through a 6 minute interview before sending her an acceptance letter. Apparently they didn't even check her out on the internet, much less a background check. If so, then we can expect more, and increase the odds Trump will resort to the Insurrection Act. Let's hope not nor that his declarations increase, as declaring martial law would prevent elections. I doubt that will happen, but I don't put it past his obvious narcissistic authoritarianism.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2026/01/ice-recruitment-minneapolis-shooting.html

Maybe choose a more trustworthy source than Slate?

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Perhaps a contributing factor to the ICE shootings is what this reporter discovered when it appears she went through a 6 minute interview before sending her an acceptance letter. Apparently they didn't even check her out on the internet, much less a background check. If so, then we can expect more, and increase the odds Trump will resort to the Insurrection Act. Let's hope not nor that his declarations increase, as declaring martial law would prevent elections. I doubt that will happen, but I don't put it past his obvious narcissistic authoritarianism.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2026/01/ice-recruitment-minneapolis-shooting.html

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What about the hysterical, paranoid ravings of the mutjob gave you pause?

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Facebook going great pic.twitter.com/pMm1pSovc4

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This whole "both sidesism" is bull crap. Trying to equate Charlie Kirk with Ms. Good is just ridiculous.

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Very true. It's like trying to equate the massacred protestors in Tienamen Square with these fat liberal women and cleft ******* men out crashing cars into federal agents.

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Without standing the case would be dismissed. We're not debating the merits of the evidence but rather its existence. To say there's no evidence is a lie.

Furthermore, the ability to weigh evidence depends on due process. To the extent that ICE or other agencies abandon due process, they lose the benefit of the doubt.

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Nope. Still not evidence of your claims. Try again.

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I've made my point. And for someone calling out lies, you post a lot of them.

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1. Telling that you get bitter when someone points out errors in your logic.

2. You still have no evidence, Sam.

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When will the IG investigation be complete? That will determine if it was justified, this is pure speculation. The Agent on Admin Leave after the shooting deserves an adjudication.

They IG is investigating and the Agent that used his firearm is on Admin Leave, correct?.

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Without standing the case would be dismissed. We're not debating the merits of the evidence but rather its existence. To say there's no evidence is a lie.

Furthermore, the ability to weigh evidence depends on due process. To the extent that ICE or other agencies abandon due process, they lose the benefit of the doubt.

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Nope. Still not evidence of your claims. Try again.

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I've made my point. And for someone calling out lies, you post a lot of them.

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1. Telling that you get bitter when someone points out errors in your logic.

2. You still have no evidence, Sam.

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When will the IG investigation be complete? That will determine if it was justified, this is pure speculation. The Agent on Admin Leave after the shooting deserves an adjudication.

They IG is investigating and the Agent that used his firearm is on Admin Leave, correct?.

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So we are back to "Don't trust your own lying eyes..."?

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Without standing the case would be dismissed. We're not debating the merits of the evidence but rather its existence. To say there's no evidence is a lie.

Furthermore, the ability to weigh evidence depends on due process. To the extent that ICE or other agencies abandon due process, they lose the benefit of the doubt.

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Nope. Still not evidence of your claims. Try again.

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I've made my point. And for someone calling out lies, you post a lot of them.

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1. Telling that you get bitter when someone points out errors in your logic.

2. You still have no evidence, Sam.

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When will the IG investigation be complete? That will determine if it was justified, this is pure speculation. The Agent on Admin Leave after the shooting deserves an adjudication.

They IG is investigating and the Agent that used his firearm is on Admin Leave, correct?.

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So we are back to "Don't trust your own lying eyes..."?

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No, back to SOP for EVERY law enforcement Agency in the US. After a fatal shooting, an investigation occurs and the agent on Admin Leave, talks to a Psychologist and is cleared to go back on the street. It is for their protection as much as the public. Killing someone is a big deal and traumatic. You guys act like it is Call of Duty, but that Agents life changed, that Family's future changed and the other Agents are part of it. It will come back being part and seeing that *****

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Without standing the case would be dismissed. We're not debating the merits of the evidence but rather its existence. To say there's no evidence is a lie.

Furthermore, the ability to weigh evidence depends on due process. To the extent that ICE or other agencies abandon due process, they lose the benefit of the doubt.

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Nope. Still not evidence of your claims. Try again.

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I've made my point. And for someone calling out lies, you post a lot of them.

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1. Telling that you get bitter when someone points out errors in your logic.

2. You still have no evidence, Sam.

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When will the IG investigation be complete? That will determine if it was justified, this is pure speculation. The Agent on Admin Leave after the shooting deserves an adjudication.

They IG is investigating and the Agent that used his firearm is on Admin Leave, correct?.

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So we are back to "Don't trust your own lying eyes..."?

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No, back to SOP for EVERY law enforcement Agency in the US. After a fatal shooting, an investigation occurs and the agent on Admin Leave, talks to a Psychologist and is cleared to go back on the street. It is for their protection as much as the public. Killing someone is a big deal and traumatic. You guys act like it is Call of Duty, but that Agents life changed, that Family's future changed and the other Agents are part of it. It will come back being part and seeing that *****

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But WE, the OBSERVERS of the evidence, CAN make determinations as to what happened without waiting for an investigation. Since we all saw the same videos, it boils down to who is honest and who is a liar. It's very simple, just like with the Kyle Rittenhouse case.