FLBear5630 said:
We are living in Bizarro World.
fubar said:FLBear5630 said:
We are living in Bizarro World.
Yep.
Three more years and one day to go.
TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
Sky is falling!
Do you think the board of peace is an ambitious project, or do you think it's a UN country club committee?
If you were setting it up... sorry, if a common sense business minded person was setting it up, they'd stack it with competent people that they trust. Anyone would really, you just think that Presidents, especially Trump, shouldn't. Because you hate Trump.
Gaza has been a pet project for Trump, so I'm not surprised. I do understand your concern, but Trump has ambitious plans for Gaza and the last thing he wants is for it to fail. He's putting some people in that he can count on.
Is it a conflict? Maybe, I don't know. But it isn't the first or last time nepotism has helped in politics. At least his son in law seems competent, he's no Crack head Biden.
RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
If Kushner is involved, I have no doubt it is more about money than it is about peace. I am sure the Trump sword-polishers are going to attack me and put me in my place.
fubar said:FLBear5630 said:
We are living in Bizarro World.
Yep.
Three more years and one day to go.
TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
If Kushner is involved, I have no doubt it is more about money than it is about peace. I am sure the Trump sword-polishers are going to attack me and put me in my place.
OK, but you know the two aren't mutually exclusive. If the goal is peace in Gaza, and the way you achieve that is through development, then likely some people will profit.
So I don't blame you for your opinion, certainly I believe that the organizers will find a way to profit from this.
I still think that Trump stands a better chance at Gaza peace than anyone else. And I certainly do not trust the UN to run it.
We'll see how it shakes out. But it's like you TDSers are always looking to take the loss. It's your favorite past time. Trump is far from perfect, but he's moving our behometh government and foreign relations in the right direction. Some moves won't be great, but his net impact is far more positive than not.
Enjoy the ride, good things are happening.
FLBear5630 said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
If Kushner is involved, I have no doubt it is more about money than it is about peace. I am sure the Trump sword-polishers are going to attack me and put me in my place.
OK, but you know the two aren't mutually exclusive. If the goal is peace in Gaza, and the way you achieve that is through development, then likely some people will profit.
So I don't blame you for your opinion, certainly I believe that the organizers will find a way to profit from this.
I still think that Trump stands a better chance at Gaza peace than anyone else. And I certainly do not trust the UN to run it.
We'll see how it shakes out. But it's like you TDSers are always looking to take the loss. It's your favorite past time. Trump is far from perfect, but he's moving our behometh government and foreign relations in the right direction. Some moves won't be great, but his net impact is far more positive than not.
Enjoy the ride, good things are happening.
I agree with everything you say, I have NO issue with the US leading the Gaza rebuild.
What I have issues with is the President naming himself, personally, as the Chair, not a US representative. Having Jared Kushner, his son-in-law, on the Board and negotiating. I have just as much trouble with this as I had with the Big Guy and the Biden Crime Family. It is no different, personal wealth generation using their elected position and access.
It would be different if he led it as President, his term is up and he did such a good job they wanted to name him Chairman AFTER he is done being President.
As usual, you guys focus on what is being done, not how he is doing it. 90% of Trump's issues are in HOW he does things.
RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:FLBear5630 said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
If Kushner is involved, I have no doubt it is more about money than it is about peace. I am sure the Trump sword-polishers are going to attack me and put me in my place.
OK, but you know the two aren't mutually exclusive. If the goal is peace in Gaza, and the way you achieve that is through development, then likely some people will profit.
So I don't blame you for your opinion, certainly I believe that the organizers will find a way to profit from this.
I still think that Trump stands a better chance at Gaza peace than anyone else. And I certainly do not trust the UN to run it.
We'll see how it shakes out. But it's like you TDSers are always looking to take the loss. It's your favorite past time. Trump is far from perfect, but he's moving our behometh government and foreign relations in the right direction. Some moves won't be great, but his net impact is far more positive than not.
Enjoy the ride, good things are happening.
I agree with everything you say, I have NO issue with the US leading the Gaza rebuild.
What I have issues with is the President naming himself, personally, as the Chair, not a US representative. Having Jared Kushner, his son-in-law, on the Board and negotiating. I have just as much trouble with this as I had with the Big Guy and the Biden Crime Family. It is no different, personal wealth generation using their elected position and access.
It would be different if he led it as President, his term is up and he did such a good job they wanted to name him Chairman AFTER he is done being President.
As usual, you guys focus on what is being done, not how he is doing it. 90% of Trump's issues are in HOW he does things.
Do you know who is going to pay to rebuild both Gaza and Ukraine? I'll give you one guess. I'll give you a little hint. The answer is not Israel or Russia.
FLBear5630 said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:FLBear5630 said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
If Kushner is involved, I have no doubt it is more about money than it is about peace. I am sure the Trump sword-polishers are going to attack me and put me in my place.
OK, but you know the two aren't mutually exclusive. If the goal is peace in Gaza, and the way you achieve that is through development, then likely some people will profit.
So I don't blame you for your opinion, certainly I believe that the organizers will find a way to profit from this.
I still think that Trump stands a better chance at Gaza peace than anyone else. And I certainly do not trust the UN to run it.
We'll see how it shakes out. But it's like you TDSers are always looking to take the loss. It's your favorite past time. Trump is far from perfect, but he's moving our behometh government and foreign relations in the right direction. Some moves won't be great, but his net impact is far more positive than not.
Enjoy the ride, good things are happening.
I agree with everything you say, I have NO issue with the US leading the Gaza rebuild.
What I have issues with is the President naming himself, personally, as the Chair, not a US representative. Having Jared Kushner, his son-in-law, on the Board and negotiating. I have just as much trouble with this as I had with the Big Guy and the Biden Crime Family. It is no different, personal wealth generation using their elected position and access.
It would be different if he led it as President, his term is up and he did such a good job they wanted to name him Chairman AFTER he is done being President.
As usual, you guys focus on what is being done, not how he is doing it. 90% of Trump's issues are in HOW he does things.
Do you know who is going to pay to rebuild both Gaza and Ukraine? I'll give you one guess. I'll give you a little hint. The answer is not Israel or Russia.
Once again you focus on the what, not the how.
He is the President of the United States, he is not a private citizen. It is called a conflict of interest for an elected or even Government employed person to use his position for personal or family gain. That is the
problem.
Once he leaves office and/or employ of the US Government, than Donald Trump private citizen can invest where he wants. Be on any Board he wants, although most Presidents don't to avoid the look of impropriety, I know Trump could care less.
Cheney was just as bad with Haliburton in Iraq.
FLBear5630 said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:FLBear5630 said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
If Kushner is involved, I have no doubt it is more about money than it is about peace. I am sure the Trump sword-polishers are going to attack me and put me in my place.
OK, but you know the two aren't mutually exclusive. If the goal is peace in Gaza, and the way you achieve that is through development, then likely some people will profit.
So I don't blame you for your opinion, certainly I believe that the organizers will find a way to profit from this.
I still think that Trump stands a better chance at Gaza peace than anyone else. And I certainly do not trust the UN to run it.
We'll see how it shakes out. But it's like you TDSers are always looking to take the loss. It's your favorite past time. Trump is far from perfect, but he's moving our behometh government and foreign relations in the right direction. Some moves won't be great, but his net impact is far more positive than not.
Enjoy the ride, good things are happening.
I agree with everything you say, I have NO issue with the US leading the Gaza rebuild.
What I have issues with is the President naming himself, personally, as the Chair, not a US representative. Having Jared Kushner, his son-in-law, on the Board and negotiating. I have just as much trouble with this as I had with the Big Guy and the Biden Crime Family. It is no different, personal wealth generation using their elected position and access.
It would be different if he led it as President, his term is up and he did such a good job they wanted to name him Chairman AFTER he is done being President.
As usual, you guys focus on what is being done, not how he is doing it. 90% of Trump's issues are in HOW he does things.
Do you know who is going to pay to rebuild both Gaza and Ukraine? I'll give you one guess. I'll give you a little hint. The answer is not Israel or Russia.
Once again you focus on the what, not the how.
He is the President of the United States, he is not a private citizen. It is called a conflict of interest for an elected or even Government employed person to use his position for personal or family gain. That is the
problem.
Once he leaves office and/or employ of the US Government, than Donald Trump private citizen can invest where he wants. Be on any Board he wants, although most Presidents don't to avoid the look of impropriety, I know Trump could care less.
Cheney was just as bad with Haliburton in Iraq.
Out of 60 invited countries, the following have confirmed participation in Trump’s "Board of Peace":
— GeoInsider (@InsiderGeo) January 21, 2026
🇺🇸 United States (Chair)
🇦🇱 Albania
🇦🇷 Argentina
🇦🇲 Armenia
🇧🇾 Belarus
🇭🇺 Hungary
🇮🇱 Israel
🇰🇿 Kazakhstan
🇲🇦 Morocco
🇵🇾 Paraguay
🇦🇪 United Arab Emirates
🇺🇿 Uzbekistan
🇻🇳 Vietnam pic.twitter.com/nvLnuexTU8
These aren't conservatives. These are populists. Our founders knew the danger of populism, and since a hyper consolidation of power in the executive branch over the last few decades, its danger has only multiplied.Porteroso said:FLBear5630 said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:FLBear5630 said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
If Kushner is involved, I have no doubt it is more about money than it is about peace. I am sure the Trump sword-polishers are going to attack me and put me in my place.
OK, but you know the two aren't mutually exclusive. If the goal is peace in Gaza, and the way you achieve that is through development, then likely some people will profit.
So I don't blame you for your opinion, certainly I believe that the organizers will find a way to profit from this.
I still think that Trump stands a better chance at Gaza peace than anyone else. And I certainly do not trust the UN to run it.
We'll see how it shakes out. But it's like you TDSers are always looking to take the loss. It's your favorite past time. Trump is far from perfect, but he's moving our behometh government and foreign relations in the right direction. Some moves won't be great, but his net impact is far more positive than not.
Enjoy the ride, good things are happening.
I agree with everything you say, I have NO issue with the US leading the Gaza rebuild.
What I have issues with is the President naming himself, personally, as the Chair, not a US representative. Having Jared Kushner, his son-in-law, on the Board and negotiating. I have just as much trouble with this as I had with the Big Guy and the Biden Crime Family. It is no different, personal wealth generation using their elected position and access.
It would be different if he led it as President, his term is up and he did such a good job they wanted to name him Chairman AFTER he is done being President.
As usual, you guys focus on what is being done, not how he is doing it. 90% of Trump's issues are in HOW he does things.
Do you know who is going to pay to rebuild both Gaza and Ukraine? I'll give you one guess. I'll give you a little hint. The answer is not Israel or Russia.
Once again you focus on the what, not the how.
He is the President of the United States, he is not a private citizen. It is called a conflict of interest for an elected or even Government employed person to use his position for personal or family gain. That is the
problem.
Once he leaves office and/or employ of the US Government, than Donald Trump private citizen can invest where he wants. Be on any Board he wants, although most Presidents don't to avoid the look of impropriety, I know Trump could care less.
Cheney was just as bad with Haliburton in Iraq.
We are far beyond the point of conservatives caring about conflict of interest. Conservatives seem to actually want Trump to enrich himself through the Presidency.
I think they see it as "winning" and Democrats losing. They will sell out on every single ideal as long as Dem tears flow. It's a bizarre time to live in.
Edit: Witkoff says 25 nations have signed up for this. 25bn Trump now controls.
Remind me again who amongst us were upset over Hunter's 10 mil? Told us time and time again how well that investigation was going? How much dirt they were uncovering?
25 billion dollars.
Sam Lowry said:fubar said:FLBear5630 said:
We are living in Bizarro World.
Yep.
Three more years and one day to go.
If we're lucky.
JUST IN: 🇷🇺🇺🇸 President Putin says Russia is ready to contribute $1 billion to President Trump's "Board of Peace." pic.twitter.com/AGbLcyaW0W
— BRICS News (@BRICSinfo) January 21, 2026
FLBear5630 said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:FLBear5630 said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
If Kushner is involved, I have no doubt it is more about money than it is about peace. I am sure the Trump sword-polishers are going to attack me and put me in my place.
OK, but you know the two aren't mutually exclusive. If the goal is peace in Gaza, and the way you achieve that is through development, then likely some people will profit.
So I don't blame you for your opinion, certainly I believe that the organizers will find a way to profit from this.
I still think that Trump stands a better chance at Gaza peace than anyone else. And I certainly do not trust the UN to run it.
We'll see how it shakes out. But it's like you TDSers are always looking to take the loss. It's your favorite past time. Trump is far from perfect, but he's moving our behometh government and foreign relations in the right direction. Some moves won't be great, but his net impact is far more positive than not.
Enjoy the ride, good things are happening.
I agree with everything you say, I have NO issue with the US leading the Gaza rebuild.
What I have issues with is the President naming himself, personally, as the Chair, not a US representative. Having Jared Kushner, his son-in-law, on the Board and negotiating. I have just as much trouble with this as I had with the Big Guy and the Biden Crime Family. It is no different, personal wealth generation using their elected position and access.
It would be different if he led it as President, his term is up and he did such a good job they wanted to name him Chairman AFTER he is done being President.
As usual, you guys focus on what is being done, not how he is doing it. 90% of Trump's issues are in HOW he does things.
Do you know who is going to pay to rebuild both Gaza and Ukraine? I'll give you one guess. I'll give you a little hint. The answer is not Israel or Russia.
Once again you focus on the what, not the how.
He is the President of the United States, he is not a private citizen. It is called a conflict of interest for an elected or even Government employed person to use his position for personal or family gain. That is the
problem.
Once he leaves office and/or employ of the US Government, than Donald Trump private citizen can invest where he wants. Be on any Board he wants, although most Presidents don't to avoid the look of impropriety, I know Trump could care less.
Cheney was just as bad with Haliburton in Iraq.
That was not our bet. It was that he would send the military into blue cities to suppress the vote.Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:fubar said:FLBear5630 said:
We are living in Bizarro World.
Yep.
Three more years and one day to go.
If we're lucky.
We won't be, right? I mean, like your boy, Putin, you've predicted Trump will cement himself as dictator by the end of his term (thus, our bet).
Porteroso said:FLBear5630 said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:FLBear5630 said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
If Kushner is involved, I have no doubt it is more about money than it is about peace. I am sure the Trump sword-polishers are going to attack me and put me in my place.
OK, but you know the two aren't mutually exclusive. If the goal is peace in Gaza, and the way you achieve that is through development, then likely some people will profit.
So I don't blame you for your opinion, certainly I believe that the organizers will find a way to profit from this.
I still think that Trump stands a better chance at Gaza peace than anyone else. And I certainly do not trust the UN to run it.
We'll see how it shakes out. But it's like you TDSers are always looking to take the loss. It's your favorite past time. Trump is far from perfect, but he's moving our behometh government and foreign relations in the right direction. Some moves won't be great, but his net impact is far more positive than not.
Enjoy the ride, good things are happening.
I agree with everything you say, I have NO issue with the US leading the Gaza rebuild.
What I have issues with is the President naming himself, personally, as the Chair, not a US representative. Having Jared Kushner, his son-in-law, on the Board and negotiating. I have just as much trouble with this as I had with the Big Guy and the Biden Crime Family. It is no different, personal wealth generation using their elected position and access.
It would be different if he led it as President, his term is up and he did such a good job they wanted to name him Chairman AFTER he is done being President.
As usual, you guys focus on what is being done, not how he is doing it. 90% of Trump's issues are in HOW he does things.
Do you know who is going to pay to rebuild both Gaza and Ukraine? I'll give you one guess. I'll give you a little hint. The answer is not Israel or Russia.
Once again you focus on the what, not the how.
He is the President of the United States, he is not a private citizen. It is called a conflict of interest for an elected or even Government employed person to use his position for personal or family gain. That is the
problem.
Once he leaves office and/or employ of the US Government, than Donald Trump private citizen can invest where he wants. Be on any Board he wants, although most Presidents don't to avoid the look of impropriety, I know Trump could care less.
Cheney was just as bad with Haliburton in Iraq.
We are far beyond the point of conservatives caring about conflict of interest. Conservatives seem to actually want Trump to enrich himself through the Presidency.
I think they see it as "winning" and Democrats losing. They will sell out on every single ideal as long as Dem tears flow. It's a bizarre time to live in.
Edit: Witkoff says 25 nations have signed up for this. 25bn Trump now controls.
Remind me again who amongst us were upset over Hunter's 10 mil? Told us time and time again how well that investigation was going? How much dirt they were uncovering?
25 billion dollars.
Harrison Bergeron said:
Can you guys imagine given all his hatred of THE JEWS how funny it would be if 7-11 transferred Captain Quick Stop to the midnight shift at the Gaza store?
TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:Porteroso said:FLBear5630 said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:FLBear5630 said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
If Kushner is involved, I have no doubt it is more about money than it is about peace. I am sure the Trump sword-polishers are going to attack me and put me in my place.
OK, but you know the two aren't mutually exclusive. If the goal is peace in Gaza, and the way you achieve that is through development, then likely some people will profit.
So I don't blame you for your opinion, certainly I believe that the organizers will find a way to profit from this.
I still think that Trump stands a better chance at Gaza peace than anyone else. And I certainly do not trust the UN to run it.
We'll see how it shakes out. But it's like you TDSers are always looking to take the loss. It's your favorite past time. Trump is far from perfect, but he's moving our behometh government and foreign relations in the right direction. Some moves won't be great, but his net impact is far more positive than not.
Enjoy the ride, good things are happening.
I agree with everything you say, I have NO issue with the US leading the Gaza rebuild.
What I have issues with is the President naming himself, personally, as the Chair, not a US representative. Having Jared Kushner, his son-in-law, on the Board and negotiating. I have just as much trouble with this as I had with the Big Guy and the Biden Crime Family. It is no different, personal wealth generation using their elected position and access.
It would be different if he led it as President, his term is up and he did such a good job they wanted to name him Chairman AFTER he is done being President.
As usual, you guys focus on what is being done, not how he is doing it. 90% of Trump's issues are in HOW he does things.
Do you know who is going to pay to rebuild both Gaza and Ukraine? I'll give you one guess. I'll give you a little hint. The answer is not Israel or Russia.
Once again you focus on the what, not the how.
He is the President of the United States, he is not a private citizen. It is called a conflict of interest for an elected or even Government employed person to use his position for personal or family gain. That is the
problem.
Once he leaves office and/or employ of the US Government, than Donald Trump private citizen can invest where he wants. Be on any Board he wants, although most Presidents don't to avoid the look of impropriety, I know Trump could care less.
Cheney was just as bad with Haliburton in Iraq.
We are far beyond the point of conservatives caring about conflict of interest. Conservatives seem to actually want Trump to enrich himself through the Presidency.
I think they see it as "winning" and Democrats losing. They will sell out on every single ideal as long as Dem tears flow. It's a bizarre time to live in.
Edit: Witkoff says 25 nations have signed up for this. 25bn Trump now controls.
Remind me again who amongst us were upset over Hunter's 10 mil? Told us time and time again how well that investigation was going? How much dirt they were uncovering?
25 billion dollars.
Well no. Just no.
I think most conservatives are glad to see the Trump administration do something that undermines the UNs do-nothing, money laundering approach. We trust Trump more than we trust progressives. So him leading it makes sense, and stacking it with pro America people also makes sense.
If Trump is violating rules or laws, I trust that will eventually get worked out. Every little act he does is scrutinized by lawyers and Congress. Florida loves the status quo, so why not trust the system?
Last, this is the most transparent administration any of us has ever witnessed. So I'm comfortable knowing that people, friendly and hostile, will be looking over his shoulder.
The organization is looking serious and could be the beginning of something much greater than the UN security council and could even influence the socialist friendly world bank, somethings which is sorely needed.
Its OK to have concerns, but you TDSers are just pathetically miserable people. So much good happening and your TDS has made you into drama queens. Most of you were happier under the miserable rein of Biden.
Good things are happening. You're just a spectator, so enjoy the ride.
Harrison Bergeron said:
Can you guys imagine given all his hatred of THE JEWS how funny it would be if 7-11 transferred Captain Quick Stop to the midnight shift at the Gaza store?
Porteroso said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:Porteroso said:FLBear5630 said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:FLBear5630 said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
If Kushner is involved, I have no doubt it is more about money than it is about peace. I am sure the Trump sword-polishers are going to attack me and put me in my place.
OK, but you know the two aren't mutually exclusive. If the goal is peace in Gaza, and the way you achieve that is through development, then likely some people will profit.
So I don't blame you for your opinion, certainly I believe that the organizers will find a way to profit from this.
I still think that Trump stands a better chance at Gaza peace than anyone else. And I certainly do not trust the UN to run it.
We'll see how it shakes out. But it's like you TDSers are always looking to take the loss. It's your favorite past time. Trump is far from perfect, but he's moving our behometh government and foreign relations in the right direction. Some moves won't be great, but his net impact is far more positive than not.
Enjoy the ride, good things are happening.
I agree with everything you say, I have NO issue with the US leading the Gaza rebuild.
What I have issues with is the President naming himself, personally, as the Chair, not a US representative. Having Jared Kushner, his son-in-law, on the Board and negotiating. I have just as much trouble with this as I had with the Big Guy and the Biden Crime Family. It is no different, personal wealth generation using their elected position and access.
It would be different if he led it as President, his term is up and he did such a good job they wanted to name him Chairman AFTER he is done being President.
As usual, you guys focus on what is being done, not how he is doing it. 90% of Trump's issues are in HOW he does things.
Do you know who is going to pay to rebuild both Gaza and Ukraine? I'll give you one guess. I'll give you a little hint. The answer is not Israel or Russia.
Once again you focus on the what, not the how.
He is the President of the United States, he is not a private citizen. It is called a conflict of interest for an elected or even Government employed person to use his position for personal or family gain. That is the
problem.
Once he leaves office and/or employ of the US Government, than Donald Trump private citizen can invest where he wants. Be on any Board he wants, although most Presidents don't to avoid the look of impropriety, I know Trump could care less.
Cheney was just as bad with Haliburton in Iraq.
We are far beyond the point of conservatives caring about conflict of interest. Conservatives seem to actually want Trump to enrich himself through the Presidency.
I think they see it as "winning" and Democrats losing. They will sell out on every single ideal as long as Dem tears flow. It's a bizarre time to live in.
Edit: Witkoff says 25 nations have signed up for this. 25bn Trump now controls.
Remind me again who amongst us were upset over Hunter's 10 mil? Told us time and time again how well that investigation was going? How much dirt they were uncovering?
25 billion dollars.
Well no. Just no.
I think most conservatives are glad to see the Trump administration do something that undermines the UNs do-nothing, money laundering approach. We trust Trump more than we trust progressives. So him leading it makes sense, and stacking it with pro America people also makes sense.
If Trump is violating rules or laws, I trust that will eventually get worked out. Every little act he does is scrutinized by lawyers and Congress. Florida loves the status quo, so why not trust the system?
Last, this is the most transparent administration any of us has ever witnessed. So I'm comfortable knowing that people, friendly and hostile, will be looking over his shoulder.
The organization is looking serious and could be the beginning of something much greater than the UN security council and could even influence the socialist friendly world bank, somethings which is sorely needed.
Its OK to have concerns, but you TDSers are just pathetically miserable people. So much good happening and your TDS has made you into drama queens. Most of you were happier under the miserable rein of Biden.
Good things are happening. You're just a spectator, so enjoy the ride.
I have not been happy with any administration for some time. In contrast with you, who was very happy Hunter was getting investigated for 10 million (which i was fully on board with) and now is ecstatic that Trump is getting billions.
The degree to which you guys are loving Trump's insane power grab, his personal enrichment schemes, makes me think you were not actually mad that Hunter Biden tried a very small scale version of this. You loved the idea, but were a little ticked off the wrong team was getting the goodies.
TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:Porteroso said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:Porteroso said:FLBear5630 said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:FLBear5630 said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
If Kushner is involved, I have no doubt it is more about money than it is about peace. I am sure the Trump sword-polishers are going to attack me and put me in my place.
OK, but you know the two aren't mutually exclusive. If the goal is peace in Gaza, and the way you achieve that is through development, then likely some people will profit.
So I don't blame you for your opinion, certainly I believe that the organizers will find a way to profit from this.
I still think that Trump stands a better chance at Gaza peace than anyone else. And I certainly do not trust the UN to run it.
We'll see how it shakes out. But it's like you TDSers are always looking to take the loss. It's your favorite past time. Trump is far from perfect, but he's moving our behometh government and foreign relations in the right direction. Some moves won't be great, but his net impact is far more positive than not.
Enjoy the ride, good things are happening.
I agree with everything you say, I have NO issue with the US leading the Gaza rebuild.
What I have issues with is the President naming himself, personally, as the Chair, not a US representative. Having Jared Kushner, his son-in-law, on the Board and negotiating. I have just as much trouble with this as I had with the Big Guy and the Biden Crime Family. It is no different, personal wealth generation using their elected position and access.
It would be different if he led it as President, his term is up and he did such a good job they wanted to name him Chairman AFTER he is done being President.
As usual, you guys focus on what is being done, not how he is doing it. 90% of Trump's issues are in HOW he does things.
Do you know who is going to pay to rebuild both Gaza and Ukraine? I'll give you one guess. I'll give you a little hint. The answer is not Israel or Russia.
Once again you focus on the what, not the how.
He is the President of the United States, he is not a private citizen. It is called a conflict of interest for an elected or even Government employed person to use his position for personal or family gain. That is the
problem.
Once he leaves office and/or employ of the US Government, than Donald Trump private citizen can invest where he wants. Be on any Board he wants, although most Presidents don't to avoid the look of impropriety, I know Trump could care less.
Cheney was just as bad with Haliburton in Iraq.
We are far beyond the point of conservatives caring about conflict of interest. Conservatives seem to actually want Trump to enrich himself through the Presidency.
I think they see it as "winning" and Democrats losing. They will sell out on every single ideal as long as Dem tears flow. It's a bizarre time to live in.
Edit: Witkoff says 25 nations have signed up for this. 25bn Trump now controls.
Remind me again who amongst us were upset over Hunter's 10 mil? Told us time and time again how well that investigation was going? How much dirt they were uncovering?
25 billion dollars.
Well no. Just no.
I think most conservatives are glad to see the Trump administration do something that undermines the UNs do-nothing, money laundering approach. We trust Trump more than we trust progressives. So him leading it makes sense, and stacking it with pro America people also makes sense.
If Trump is violating rules or laws, I trust that will eventually get worked out. Every little act he does is scrutinized by lawyers and Congress. Florida loves the status quo, so why not trust the system?
Last, this is the most transparent administration any of us has ever witnessed. So I'm comfortable knowing that people, friendly and hostile, will be looking over his shoulder.
The organization is looking serious and could be the beginning of something much greater than the UN security council and could even influence the socialist friendly world bank, somethings which is sorely needed.
Its OK to have concerns, but you TDSers are just pathetically miserable people. So much good happening and your TDS has made you into drama queens. Most of you were happier under the miserable rein of Biden.
Good things are happening. You're just a spectator, so enjoy the ride.
I have not been happy with any administration for some time. In contrast with you, who was very happy Hunter was getting investigated for 10 million (which i was fully on board with) and now is ecstatic that Trump is getting billions.
The degree to which you guys are loving Trump's insane power grab, his personal enrichment schemes, makes me think you were not actually mad that Hunter Biden tried a very small scale version of this. You loved the idea, but were a little ticked off the wrong team was getting the goodies.
Well no, not exactly.
Hunter was peddling in FOREIGN influence of the Big Guy. Clear as day. He was being paid by foreign businesses to influence US decision making.
As for Trump making millions/billions, I don't like the idea of anyone profiting massively due to being a federal politician, but as I said, he's under tremendous scrutiny, I trust the Democrats to make all illegal activities known... Heck they may even throw in a few made up activities as well, if history serves.
We all have concerns about corrupt politics, Congress just needs to make rules to end the profiting. But that'd require a nearly complete different group of congressmen.
Oops, sorry, but our resident ladyboy lover says you can't bring up other administrations. Try again.Porteroso said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:Porteroso said:FLBear5630 said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:FLBear5630 said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
If Kushner is involved, I have no doubt it is more about money than it is about peace. I am sure the Trump sword-polishers are going to attack me and put me in my place.
OK, but you know the two aren't mutually exclusive. If the goal is peace in Gaza, and the way you achieve that is through development, then likely some people will profit.
So I don't blame you for your opinion, certainly I believe that the organizers will find a way to profit from this.
I still think that Trump stands a better chance at Gaza peace than anyone else. And I certainly do not trust the UN to run it.
We'll see how it shakes out. But it's like you TDSers are always looking to take the loss. It's your favorite past time. Trump is far from perfect, but he's moving our behometh government and foreign relations in the right direction. Some moves won't be great, but his net impact is far more positive than not.
Enjoy the ride, good things are happening.
I agree with everything you say, I have NO issue with the US leading the Gaza rebuild.
What I have issues with is the President naming himself, personally, as the Chair, not a US representative. Having Jared Kushner, his son-in-law, on the Board and negotiating. I have just as much trouble with this as I had with the Big Guy and the Biden Crime Family. It is no different, personal wealth generation using their elected position and access.
It would be different if he led it as President, his term is up and he did such a good job they wanted to name him Chairman AFTER he is done being President.
As usual, you guys focus on what is being done, not how he is doing it. 90% of Trump's issues are in HOW he does things.
Do you know who is going to pay to rebuild both Gaza and Ukraine? I'll give you one guess. I'll give you a little hint. The answer is not Israel or Russia.
Once again you focus on the what, not the how.
He is the President of the United States, he is not a private citizen. It is called a conflict of interest for an elected or even Government employed person to use his position for personal or family gain. That is the
problem.
Once he leaves office and/or employ of the US Government, than Donald Trump private citizen can invest where he wants. Be on any Board he wants, although most Presidents don't to avoid the look of impropriety, I know Trump could care less.
Cheney was just as bad with Haliburton in Iraq.
We are far beyond the point of conservatives caring about conflict of interest. Conservatives seem to actually want Trump to enrich himself through the Presidency.
I think they see it as "winning" and Democrats losing. They will sell out on every single ideal as long as Dem tears flow. It's a bizarre time to live in.
Edit: Witkoff says 25 nations have signed up for this. 25bn Trump now controls.
Remind me again who amongst us were upset over Hunter's 10 mil? Told us time and time again how well that investigation was going? How much dirt they were uncovering?
25 billion dollars.
Well no. Just no.
I think most conservatives are glad to see the Trump administration do something that undermines the UNs do-nothing, money laundering approach. We trust Trump more than we trust progressives. So him leading it makes sense, and stacking it with pro America people also makes sense.
If Trump is violating rules or laws, I trust that will eventually get worked out. Every little act he does is scrutinized by lawyers and Congress. Florida loves the status quo, so why not trust the system?
Last, this is the most transparent administration any of us has ever witnessed. So I'm comfortable knowing that people, friendly and hostile, will be looking over his shoulder.
The organization is looking serious and could be the beginning of something much greater than the UN security council and could even influence the socialist friendly world bank, somethings which is sorely needed.
Its OK to have concerns, but you TDSers are just pathetically miserable people. So much good happening and your TDS has made you into drama queens. Most of you were happier under the miserable rein of Biden.
Good things are happening. You're just a spectator, so enjoy the ride.
I have not been happy with any administration for some time. In contrast with you, who was very happy Hunter was getting investigated for 10 million (which i was fully on board with) and now is ecstatic that Trump is getting billions.
The degree to which you guys are loving Trump's insane power grab, his personal enrichment schemes, makes me think you were not actually mad that Hunter Biden tried a very small scale version of this. You loved the idea, but were a little ticked off the wrong team was getting the goodies.
BearFan33 said:
A new approach is needed to the Gaza situation. The UN hasn't fixed it to all the players detriment. I'm interested to see what Trump will do with this. If it is nontransparent and corrupt I'll join the chorus condemning this effort.
william said:BearFan33 said:
A new approach is needed to the Gaza situation. The UN hasn't fixed it to all the players detriment. I'm interested to see what Trump will do with this. If it is nontransparent and corrupt I'll join the chorus condemning this effort.
can't do any worse than UNRWA....
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