TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
BusyTarpDuster2017 said:
What I think happened: Pretti was not fully compliant and thus multiple officers entered the fray to apprehend him. It was already known by the officers before this point that Pretti had a holstered gun. In the chaos of wresting Pretti to the ground, an officer reaches in an removed Pretti's gun from the holster, and another officer sees an arm that he thinks is Pretti's, taking the gun out. Thinking Pretti has his gun in his hand, the officer then shoots him. The other officers, possibly hearing "he's got the gun!" from the shooting officer, react instinctively and shoot as well.
HIghly, highly unfortunate situation for Pretti, much like the lady in the car. But such happenings are inevitable, when you have protesters actively encouraged by their leadership to impede a lawful proceeding carried out by armed law enforcement officers who are already on edge because of constant threats against them. It's a highly combustible situation. Yes, there absolutely, 100 percent should have been better protocol, training, and execution by the officers to prevent being in a situation where you might shoot a protester. But you also HAVE to be smarter than to carry a firearm when you engaged in law breaking, especially against armed law officers. Officers are human, and they make mistakes. You can't constantly harrass them, blow annoying whistles in their face, yell and spit at them, and block their traffic all day while they are carrying out their duties without expecting a confrontation from them. You've raised the temperature and the stakes at that point. The officers have NO obligation to not see you as a threat to their safety. Having a GUN on you while you're doing this? You're playing with dynamite. At that point, you subject your life to there not being any missteps, mistakes, or misperceptions by the officers, which the law of averages says is bound to happen.
By the way... where is White Lives Matter?
Yep, from what I've seen, I don't see this as warranted, though it's likely something that wouldn't result in a judgment. When just one officer yells that he has a gun, all officers aren't required to see it. They can operate under the assumption that the dude is potentially a threat. So when he was disarmed it's not obvious me that the officer yelled that he got Perriti's weapon. So the other officers were still under the impression that he had a gun. So maybe whatever is in his right hand or maybe he reaches towards his belt, whatever it was in that second leads the officer to fire.
Terrible situation caused by terrible lefties amping up and mobilizing against Leo's.
In armed conflicts, mistakes get made, and unfortunately someone's life was lost. Hard for me to justify the shooting, yet I understand that the officer could have felt threatened given the overall situation and the fact that peritti interjected himself into this with a weapon.
I'm looking forward to seeing the investigation results. Hoping it's fair and impartial.
But I guess we can all expect that the liberals will now be apologizing for the January 6 murder of an unarmed, non threatening lady.
Yes, how weird and ironic that the left blames Ashli Babbit's death on those who riled her up to unlawfully protest... but in this case that level of discernment has completely disappeared.
The opportunistic left is trying to use this "crisis" as evidence of the "danger" of having ICE operations in their city. But THEY are the ones who are creating the crisis and all the danger. They relentlessly abuse the officers until there's a response, and then they just show and politicize the response. I liken it to a scenario where a neighborhood tries to have someone's "dangerous" dog removed, so they constantly protest in front of the dog, yelling at it, throwing things at it, blowing whistles that damage the dog's hearing,and poking and prodding at it all day. The dog initially does nothing. But after days of relentless agitation and physical abuse, the dog finally bites one of the protesters, and then the refrain is "
SEE! SEE! See how the dog is dangerous and needs to be removed??!!"
It's absolutely ridiculous, the suggestion that ICE should pull out of Minnesota because of this. That's incentivizing lawlessness to achieve political ends. The way to end the "danger" of ICE being there is to remove those protesters who are creating all the danger in the first place. If anything, I fully support
doubling the ICE presence there and have a bus that goes behind them, where they can throw everyone who is impeding them and take them to jail. No questions - if you're yelling, cursing, spitting, and blowing whistles in the officer's face or blocking their path, in the bus you go even if they have to physically throw you in there. Full immunity for the officers in doing this. I've had enough of these people.
