Trump once again being his own worst enemy

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whiterock
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apparently not real but them who would be surprised if it was?

fubar
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lol ... your "own independent assessment." You wanted to find something that made this look better for TRUMP; you found something on the internet; and you ran with it. You say you've provided "context."

Here's some more context for you. The garbage video remained up for hours after it was reported. Leavitt and other minions continue to defend it.

The video contained images that can only be described as racist, and it was meant to be seen.
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FLBear5630
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Not that the post was wrong, just the off with their heads approach. This is what is wrong about MAGA. Trump was wrong, but attack those who said so. The King has no clothes attack those that notice...
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fubar said:

lol ... your "own independent assessment." You wanted to find something that made this look better for TRUMP; you found something on the internet; and you ran with it. You say you've provided "context."

Here's some more context for you. The garbage video remained up for hours after it was reported. Leavitt and other minions continue to defend it.

The video contained images that can only be described as racist, and it was meant to be seen.

First of all, grow some stones and reply to me directly instead of hiding your response as a new comment.

I'm not trying to make Trump "look better". I merely gave the important context that was lacking almost everywhere you read about this story. An honest, fair-minded person would make room in their brain for the possibility that this was a very unfortunate oversight, rather than simply knee-jerking a response. A lot of people, yourself likely included, didn't even know the context because they didn't even bother to watch the video for themselves and just swallowed the media's narrative wholesale. The video remained up for hours after it was reported, because as I've already said, Trump was too proud to correct himself. He hates to admit he made a mistake. That's a big fault of his.
ScottS
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Much to do about nothing. The left will hand wring the Obama/ape stuff but what the left has created has been 1,000 times worse....holding Trump's severed head, Trump with a Hitler mustache, Trump body handing from a cross, or even Bush 43 posted with pictures of apes that matched his face. So spare me the outrage. The left shows their backside at every turn.


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FLBear5630
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ScottS said:

Much to do about nothing. The left will hand wring the Obama/ape stuff but what the left has created has been 1,000 times worse....holding Trump's severed head, Trump with a Hitler mustache, Trump body handing from a cross, or even Bush 43 posted with pictures of apes that matched his face. So spare me the outrage. The left shows their backside at every turn.

RESIST Orange Hitler
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So basically, your moral code is "they did it".
ScottS
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FLBear5630 said:

ScottS said:

Much to do about nothing. The left will hand wring the Obama/ape stuff but what the left has created has been 1,000 times worse....holding Trump's severed head, Trump with a Hitler mustache, Trump body handing from a cross, or even Bush 43 posted with pictures of apes that matched his face. So spare me the outrage. The left shows their backside at every turn.

RESIST Orange Hitler
Bush and Monkey Look-Alike 33 | Sangre de Chivas! | Flickr

So basically, your moral code is "they did it".


No, its that what the left does is way worse and you know it.
Sam Lowry
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ScottS said:

FLBear5630 said:

ScottS said:

Much to do about nothing. The left will hand wring the Obama/ape stuff but what the left has created has been 1,000 times worse....holding Trump's severed head, Trump with a Hitler mustache, Trump body handing from a cross, or even Bush 43 posted with pictures of apes that matched his face. So spare me the outrage. The left shows their backside at every turn.

RESIST Orange Hitler
Bush and Monkey Look-Alike 33 | Sangre de Chivas! | Flickr

So basically, your moral code is "they did it".


No, its that what the left does is way worse and you know it.

Did I miss the Kathy Griffin presidency? Who was her VP?
Frank Galvin
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ScottS said:

An insult to apes.




Scott's what the hell is wrong with you.
ScottS
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Sam Lowry said:

ScottS said:

FLBear5630 said:

ScottS said:

Much to do about nothing. The left will hand wring the Obama/ape stuff but what the left has created has been 1,000 times worse....holding Trump's severed head, Trump with a Hitler mustache, Trump body handing from a cross, or even Bush 43 posted with pictures of apes that matched his face. So spare me the outrage. The left shows their backside at every turn.

RESIST Orange Hitler
Bush and Monkey Look-Alike 33 | Sangre de Chivas! | Flickr

So basically, your moral code is "they did it".


No, its that what the left does is way worse and you know it.

Did I miss the Kathy Griffin presidency? Who was her VP?


Did you miss that Trump didn't post it but a staffer did? The left is way worse and you know it. The abortion party.
ScottS
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Frank Galvin said:

ScottS said:

An insult to apes.




Scott's what the hell is wrong with you.


Nothing. Michelle/Big Mike is a very bitter person and Obama's policies were crap.
william
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ScottS said:

FLBear5630 said:

ScottS said:

Much to do about nothing. The left will hand wring the Obama/ape stuff but what the left has created has been 1,000 times worse....holding Trump's severed head, Trump with a Hitler mustache, Trump body handing from a cross, or even Bush 43 posted with pictures of apes that matched his face. So spare me the outrage. The left shows their backside at every turn.

RESIST Orange Hitler
Bush and Monkey Look-Alike 33 | Sangre de Chivas! | Flickr

So basically, your moral code is "they did it".


No, its that what the left does is way worse and you know it.

perjjappps, but there's no reason to roll in the muck with them....

jjeeee's doing a good job for the most part - but the idiot posts and comments dont jjellp at all.....

- tbp*

p*D!


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{ eating donut }



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Sam Lowry
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ScottS said:

Sam Lowry said:

ScottS said:

FLBear5630 said:

ScottS said:

Much to do about nothing. The left will hand wring the Obama/ape stuff but what the left has created has been 1,000 times worse....holding Trump's severed head, Trump with a Hitler mustache, Trump body handing from a cross, or even Bush 43 posted with pictures of apes that matched his face. So spare me the outrage. The left shows their backside at every turn.

RESIST Orange Hitler
Bush and Monkey Look-Alike 33 | Sangre de Chivas! | Flickr

So basically, your moral code is "they did it".


No, its that what the left does is way worse and you know it.

Did I miss the Kathy Griffin presidency? Who was her VP?


Did you miss that Trump didn't post it but a staffer did?

Even if you believe that, it's no excuse.
ScottS
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Sam Lowry said:

ScottS said:

Sam Lowry said:

ScottS said:

FLBear5630 said:

ScottS said:

Much to do about nothing. The left will hand wring the Obama/ape stuff but what the left has created has been 1,000 times worse....holding Trump's severed head, Trump with a Hitler mustache, Trump body handing from a cross, or even Bush 43 posted with pictures of apes that matched his face. So spare me the outrage. The left shows their backside at every turn.

RESIST Orange Hitler
Bush and Monkey Look-Alike 33 | Sangre de Chivas! | Flickr

So basically, your moral code is "they did it".


No, its that what the left does is way worse and you know it.

Did I miss the Kathy Griffin presidency? Who was her VP?


Did you miss that Trump didn't post it but a staffer did?

Even if you believe that, it's no excuse.


Keep handwringing over nothing Sam.
ScottS
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ScottS said:

FLBear5630 said:

ScottS said:

Much to do about nothing. The left will hand wring the Obama/ape stuff but what the left has created has been 1,000 times worse....holding Trump's severed head, Trump with a Hitler mustache, Trump body handing from a cross, or even Bush 43 posted with pictures of apes that matched his face. So spare me the outrage. The left shows their backside at every turn.

RESIST Orange Hitler
Bush and Monkey Look-Alike 33 | Sangre de Chivas! | Flickr

So basically, your moral code is "they did it".


No, its that what the left does is way worse and you know it.

Oh, ok. That is much better.

Did you ever think the Left thinks that of you?
ScottS
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FLBear5630
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william said:

ScottS said:

FLBear5630 said:

ScottS said:

Much to do about nothing. The left will hand wring the Obama/ape stuff but what the left has created has been 1,000 times worse....holding Trump's severed head, Trump with a Hitler mustache, Trump body handing from a cross, or even Bush 43 posted with pictures of apes that matched his face. So spare me the outrage. The left shows their backside at every turn.

RESIST Orange Hitler
Bush and Monkey Look-Alike 33 | Sangre de Chivas! | Flickr

So basically, your moral code is "they did it".


No, its that what the left does is way worse and you know it.

perjjappps, but there's no reason to roll in the muck with them....

jjeeee's doing a good job for the most part - but the idiot posts and comments dont jjellp at all.....

- tbp*

p*D!


{ sipping coffee }

{ eating donut }





THANK YOU. Totally agree. Why not limit self-inflicted errors?
ScottS
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Sam Lowry
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ScottS said:

Sam Lowry said:

ScottS said:

Sam Lowry said:

ScottS said:

FLBear5630 said:

ScottS said:

Much to do about nothing. The left will hand wring the Obama/ape stuff but what the left has created has been 1,000 times worse....holding Trump's severed head, Trump with a Hitler mustache, Trump body handing from a cross, or even Bush 43 posted with pictures of apes that matched his face. So spare me the outrage. The left shows their backside at every turn.

RESIST Orange Hitler
Bush and Monkey Look-Alike 33 | Sangre de Chivas! | Flickr

So basically, your moral code is "they did it".


No, its that what the left does is way worse and you know it.

Did I miss the Kathy Griffin presidency? Who was her VP?


Did you miss that Trump didn't post it but a staffer did?

Even if you believe that, it's no excuse.


Keep handwringing over nothing Sam.

Keep applying those double standards of yours, Scott.
ScottS
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FLBear5630
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ScottS said:

Sam Lowry said:

ScottS said:

Sam Lowry said:

ScottS said:

FLBear5630 said:

ScottS said:

Much to do about nothing. The left will hand wring the Obama/ape stuff but what the left has created has been 1,000 times worse....holding Trump's severed head, Trump with a Hitler mustache, Trump body handing from a cross, or even Bush 43 posted with pictures of apes that matched his face. So spare me the outrage. The left shows their backside at every turn.

RESIST Orange Hitler
Bush and Monkey Look-Alike 33 | Sangre de Chivas! | Flickr

So basically, your moral code is "they did it".


No, its that what the left does is way worse and you know it.

Did I miss the Kathy Griffin presidency? Who was her VP?


Did you miss that Trump didn't post it but a staffer did?

Even if you believe that, it's no excuse.


Keep handwringing over nothing Sam.

Is that what it is to call out blatantly wrong actions? Handwringing?

Maybe we can send in some masked, tactical geared Federal Agents to visit those that criticized the President? After all, MAGA is making a list, and I am sure they are checking it twice.
ScottS
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FLBear5630 said:

ScottS said:

Sam Lowry said:

ScottS said:

Sam Lowry said:

ScottS said:

FLBear5630 said:

ScottS said:

Much to do about nothing. The left will hand wring the Obama/ape stuff but what the left has created has been 1,000 times worse....holding Trump's severed head, Trump with a Hitler mustache, Trump body handing from a cross, or even Bush 43 posted with pictures of apes that matched his face. So spare me the outrage. The left shows their backside at every turn.

RESIST Orange Hitler
Bush and Monkey Look-Alike 33 | Sangre de Chivas! | Flickr

So basically, your moral code is "they did it".


No, its that what the left does is way worse and you know it.

Did I miss the Kathy Griffin presidency? Who was her VP?


Did you miss that Trump didn't post it but a staffer did?

Even if you believe that, it's no excuse.


Keep handwringing over nothing Sam.

Is that what it is to call out blatantly wrong actions? Handwringing?

Maybe we can send in some masked, tactical geared Federal Agents to visit those that criticized the President? After all, MAGA is making a list, and I am sure they are checking it twice.


My point is there is HUGE outrage with what happened yesterday and with these others, NO outrage.
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Judge Ward (aka 5.2%) can weigh in here as to how to lose political favor.
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Enforcer said:

Judge Ward (aka 5.2%) can weigh in here as to how to lose political favor.

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Sam Lowry said:

ScottS said:

Sam Lowry said:

ScottS said:

Sam Lowry said:

ScottS said:

FLBear5630 said:

ScottS said:

Much to do about nothing. The left will hand wring the Obama/ape stuff but what the left has created has been 1,000 times worse....holding Trump's severed head, Trump with a Hitler mustache, Trump body handing from a cross, or even Bush 43 posted with pictures of apes that matched his face. So spare me the outrage. The left shows their backside at every turn.

RESIST Orange Hitler
Bush and Monkey Look-Alike 33 | Sangre de Chivas! | Flickr

So basically, your moral code is "they did it".


No, its that what the left does is way worse and you know it.

Did I miss the Kathy Griffin presidency? Who was her VP?


Did you miss that Trump didn't post it but a staffer did?

Even if you believe that, it's no excuse.


Keep handwringing over nothing Sam.

Keep applying those double standards of yours, Scott.


The double standard is what the left does.
Mothra
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Democrats being awful does not justify republicans being awful.

This isn't kindergarten.
Wangchung
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ScottS said:

Sam Lowry said:

ScottS said:

Sam Lowry said:

ScottS said:

Sam Lowry said:

ScottS said:

FLBear5630 said:

ScottS said:

Much to do about nothing. The left will hand wring the Obama/ape stuff but what the left has created has been 1,000 times worse....holding Trump's severed head, Trump with a Hitler mustache, Trump body handing from a cross, or even Bush 43 posted with pictures of apes that matched his face. So spare me the outrage. The left shows their backside at every turn.

RESIST Orange Hitler
Bush and Monkey Look-Alike 33 | Sangre de Chivas! | Flickr

So basically, your moral code is "they did it".


No, its that what the left does is way worse and you know it.

Did I miss the Kathy Griffin presidency? Who was her VP?


Did you miss that Trump didn't post it but a staffer did?

Even if you believe that, it's no excuse.


Keep handwringing over nothing Sam.

Keep applying those double standards of yours, Scott.


The double standard is what the left does.
Exactly. They always meltdown and wet their little panties over things like this and continue to ignore the exponentially worse and more frequent behavior by their own political party. When you shove those events they want to ignore down their throats they cry about "whataboutism", as if exposing their own hypocrisy is somehow off limits. Lol
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

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Mothra said:

Democrats being awful does not justify republicans being awful.

This isn't kindergarten.

Agreed, but there is a very real double standard and constant hypocrisy around everything Democrats do. It gets exhausting how they constantly apply a completely different worldview depending on if it is a Democrat or Republican - the latest example is the James Talerico allegations from Collin Allred that have been basically ignored ... if Talarico was a Republican it would be 24-hour coverage.

There are two things about the video:
1. Something like this should not be sent from a presidential account: this is the kind of stupid stuff Trmp does that people find funny but beneath the office

2. There is nothing racist about the video. The apoplectic, hysterical response is just typical silliness.
Mothra
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Mothra said:

Democrats being awful does not justify republicans being awful.

This isn't kindergarten.

Agreed, but there is a very real double standard and constant hypocrisy around everything Democrats do. It gets exhausting how they constantly apply a completely different worldview depending on if it is a Democrat or Republican - the latest example is the James Talerico allegations from Collin Allred that have been basically ignored ... if Talarico was a Republican it would be 24-hour coverage.

There are two things about the video:
1. Something like this should not be sent from a presidential account: this is the kind of stupid stuff Trmp does that people find funny but beneath the office

2. There is nothing racist about the video. The apoplectic, hysterical response is just typical silliness.



I might feel different if this was coming from some yahoo on Twitter rather than the president, but I'm not yet past the point of believing a president should act presidential. I think we've become desensitized to it during the Trump years.

I don't think any racial motivations were in play but when you think about tropes and you're the president or someone who handles his Twitter account, you need to be more mindful about how badly this looks, as well as the racial overtones.

It's yet another unforced error and Democrat talking point.
 
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