Baylor looking to cut budget by 35 million

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boognish_bear
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boognish_bear
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Saw this a couple of days ago

Johnny Bear
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I hope anything related to DEI is the first thing that gets cut.
Robert Wilson
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Johnny Bear said:

I hope anything related to DEI is the first thing that gets cut.

It's probably nearer the last thing they would cut.
Baylorbears111
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Baylor's tuition is absolutely not sustainable in this market. There is greater and cheaper competition in the higher education market, the value of the product (a degree) has been on the decline for 30 years.

Baylor will continue to struggle, but they will survive.
KaiBear
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Baylorbears111 said:

Baylor's tuition is absolutely not sustainable in this market. There is greater and cheaper competition in the higher education market, the value of the product (a degree) has been on the decline for 30 years.

Baylor will continue to struggle, but they will survive.


Disagree

Baylor's tuition is not only sustainable……it will continue to increase.

As will the tuitions of SMU, TCU and Trinity.


These schools offer something far more valuable than a mere education.

The dream of rubbing elbows with the 'right' ( rich ) people.
El Oso
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Baylorbears111 said:

Baylor's tuition is absolutely not sustainable in this market. There is greater and cheaper competition in the higher education market, the value of the product (a degree) has been on the decline for 30 years.

Baylor will continue to struggle, but they will survive.

Baylor did not even make my high school junior's top five colleges "I'm most interested in attending." A top goal in making this list was to come out of a four year school less than 50k in loan debt after scholarships and grants. There are two schools I can't stand on that list, but the math is there for them and not Baylor. He's thinking about college as if it was a nice car that he can pay off in 5-7 years and unlike a car, will not depreciate in value and most likely boost his ROI.
boognish_bear
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Redbrickbear
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Johnny Bear said:

I hope anything related to DEI is the first thing that gets cut.

How much does Malcolm Foley make as "special advisor to the President on race"...now that name I think has been changed to "Special Advisor to the President for Campus Engagement"

aka Baylor's race commissar

I would assume that is 100K a year in savings right there if our leadership decided to stop paying for that kind of "service".
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El Oso said:

Baylorbears111 said:

Baylor's tuition is absolutely not sustainable in this market. There is greater and cheaper competition in the higher education market, the value of the product (a degree) has been on the decline for 30 years.

Baylor will continue to struggle, but they will survive.

Baylor did not even make my high school junior's top five colleges "I'm most interested in attending." A top goal in making this list was to come out of a four year school less than 50k in loan debt after scholarships and grants. There are two schools I can't stand on that list, but the math is there for them and not Baylor. He's thinking about college as if it was a nice car that he can pay off in 5-7 years and unlike a car, will not depreciate in value and most likely boost his ROI.

Your son is showing wisdom beyond his years.
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KaiBear said:

Baylorbears111 said:

Baylor's tuition is absolutely not sustainable in this market. There is greater and cheaper competition in the higher education market, the value of the product (a degree) has been on the decline for 30 years.

Baylor will continue to struggle, but they will survive.


Disagree

Baylor's tuition is not only sustainable……it will continue to increase.

As will the tuitions of SMU, TCU and Trinity.


These schools offer something far more valuable than a mere education.

The dream of rubbing elbows with the 'right' ( rich ) people.


Paying for access to the rich is certainly what SMU is offering. That has kind of always been their thing.

Can TCU say that? Maybe…at best though it would be a secondary SMU

Can Baylor compete being 3rd in line for being the "rich kid school" and also while pretending to take religion seriously?

Again…Baylor does not seem to know what it wants to be or who it wants to compete with
BellCountyBear
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Baylor has lost its way thanks to weak leadership.
Grumpy
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Good thinking, only you sorely underestimate how much Baylor administrators make. If I were president, I would terminate about half the administration and make up the $35M goal overnight. And the student experience would stay virtually the same.
Johnny Bear
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Redbrickbear said:

Johnny Bear said:

I hope anything related to DEI is the first thing that gets cut.

How much does Malcolm Foley make as "special advisor to the President on race"...now that name I think has been changed to "Special Advisor to the President for Campus Engagement"

aka Baylor's race commissar

I would assume that is 100K a year in savings right there if our leadership decided to stop paying for that kind of "service".

I'm sure it's a good assumption that positions like that draw at least a low 6 figure salary and it's the epitome of throwing money down a mud hole as the saying used to go. I don't know what the total amount of $$ being spent nationally on DEI type positions not only in academia, but also in the corporate world and the government as well - but talk about some real budget savings across the board if all of it was eliminated - and minorities would not be any worse off for it.
Oldbear83
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So, raising tuition and lowering what they provide to students.

Does Baylor's Board of Regents not check in with their Business School? Even a Business student would understand this is a poor set of choices.

KaiBear
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Redbrickbear said:

KaiBear said:

Baylorbears111 said:

Baylor's tuition is absolutely not sustainable in this market. There is greater and cheaper competition in the higher education market, the value of the product (a degree) has been on the decline for 30 years.

Baylor will continue to struggle, but they will survive.


Disagree

Baylor's tuition is not only sustainable……it will continue to increase.

As will the tuitions of SMU, TCU and Trinity.


These schools offer something far more valuable than a mere education.

The dream of rubbing elbows with the 'right' ( rich ) people.


Paying for access to the rich is certainly what SMU is offering. That has kind of always been their thing.

Can TCU say that? Maybe…at best though it would be a secondary SMU

Can Baylor compete being 3rd in line for being the "rich kid school" and also while pretending to take religion seriously?

Again…Baylor does not seem to know what it wants to be or who it wants to compete with

TCU has certainly upgraded its ' rich ' image over the last 20 years.

Though SMU maintains the strongest reputation with those who have the major bucks.

Baylor alterred its course approx 15 years ago. It is after the rich folks now. And it can compete....... beautiful campus, excellent professors, many pretty girls, and Waco has improved in general.

Trinity flys undar the radar....but is also a viable option for the country club set.
Porteroso
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Figuring out how to lower costs and tuition is the very best thing Baylor could do. Pricing out anyone but the rich is detrimental to the overall education experience. I cannot believe it was basically a stated goal.
Johnny Bear
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Oldbear83 said:

So, raising tuition and lowering what they provide to students.

Does Baylor's Board of Regents not check in with their Business School? Even a Business student would understand this is a poor set of choices.


If there is significant fat that can be trimmed (and I'm betting that there is) it doesn't necessarily have to mean providing less to students. Again, cutting anything and everything related to DEI would be a great place to start and I'm guessing in that area alone you're probably talking significant $$. Given how Linda has demonstrated she feels the need to bow the knee to the academia wokesters, I realize it probably won't happen, or at least won't happen to the extent it should - which is a shame if true.
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BellCountyBear said:

Baylor has lost its way thanks to weak leadership.

abandoning Steak Night was the first crue........

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Go to Junior College for two years, make sure your credits will transfer to Baylor then do your last two at Baylor, cut your tuition in half. Or take a bunch of Junior College courses in high school that will transfer and cut out a year or more at Baylor.
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I would think for a school like Baylor that amount could be cut in a relatively easy way without hurting students or mass layoffs.

But it would mean cutting things I think LL will not even touch.
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KaiBear said:

Baylorbears111 said:

Baylor's tuition is absolutely not sustainable in this market. There is greater and cheaper competition in the higher education market, the value of the product (a degree) has been on the decline for 30 years.

Baylor will continue to struggle, but they will survive.


Disagree

Baylor's tuition is not only sustainable……it will continue to increase.

As will the tuitions of SMU, TCU and Trinity.


These schools offer something far more valuable than a mere education.

The dream of rubbing elbows with the 'right' ( rich ) people.

In my next life, I want to come back as an Aggie bug scientist that has a craving for expensive watches.
Call it a tax, the people are outraged! Call it a tariff, the people get out their checkbooks and wave their American flags!!!
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:

Baylorbears111 said:

Baylor's tuition is absolutely not sustainable in this market. There is greater and cheaper competition in the higher education market, the value of the product (a degree) has been on the decline for 30 years.

Baylor will continue to struggle, but they will survive.


Disagree

Baylor's tuition is not only sustainable……it will continue to increase.

As will the tuitions of SMU, TCU and Trinity.


These schools offer something far more valuable than a mere education.

The dream of rubbing elbows with the 'right' ( rich ) people.

In my next life, I want to come back as an Aggie bug scientist that has a craving for expensive watches.

Better reduce your cravings for beer, pizza, burritos , and whoppers.........drop 30 to 50 pounds.

Or there is a solid chance you will reach your next life a lot sooner than expected.



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RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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KaiBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:

Baylorbears111 said:

Baylor's tuition is absolutely not sustainable in this market. There is greater and cheaper competition in the higher education market, the value of the product (a degree) has been on the decline for 30 years.

Baylor will continue to struggle, but they will survive.


Disagree

Baylor's tuition is not only sustainable……it will continue to increase.

As will the tuitions of SMU, TCU and Trinity.


These schools offer something far more valuable than a mere education.

The dream of rubbing elbows with the 'right' ( rich ) people.

In my next life, I want to come back as an Aggie bug scientist that has a craving for expensive watches.

Better reduce your cravings for beer, pizza, burritos , and whoppers.........drop 30 to 50 pounds.

Or there is a solid chance you will reach your next life a lot sooner than expected.





The only thing I know for sure is I won't die being struck by lightning on the treadmill or choking on my alfalfa sprouts!
Call it a tax, the people are outraged! Call it a tariff, the people get out their checkbooks and wave their American flags!!!
canoso
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william said:



Amen and amen!!!!!
KaiBear
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william said:



LOL

Awesome pic.

+1
KaiBear
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:

Baylorbears111 said:

Baylor's tuition is absolutely not sustainable in this market. There is greater and cheaper competition in the higher education market, the value of the product (a degree) has been on the decline for 30 years.

Baylor will continue to struggle, but they will survive.


Disagree

Baylor's tuition is not only sustainable……it will continue to increase.

As will the tuitions of SMU, TCU and Trinity.


These schools offer something far more valuable than a mere education.

The dream of rubbing elbows with the 'right' ( rich ) people.

In my next life, I want to come back as an Aggie bug scientist that has a craving for expensive watches.

Better reduce your cravings for beer, pizza, burritos , and whoppers.........drop 30 to 50 pounds.

Or there is a solid chance you will reach your next life a lot sooner than expected.





The only thing I know for sure is I won't die being struck by lightning on the treadmill or choking on my alfalfa sprouts!

Yeah, nation wide heath statistics don't apply to old BU football players.

Even if those particular teams rarely won a game.

Have fun sir !
william
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KaiBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:

Baylorbears111 said:

Baylor's tuition is absolutely not sustainable in this market. There is greater and cheaper competition in the higher education ma
......................ach your next life a lot sooner than expected.










The only thing I know for sure is I won't die being struck by lightning on the treadmill or choking on my alfalfa sprouts!

Yeah, nation wide heath statistics don't apply to old BU football players.

Even if those teams rarely won a game.

Have fun sir !


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Guy Noir
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Once Sloan led Baylor down the path of borrowing money for new buildings, the die was cast, and tuition began an upward spiral that is difficult to stop. Sloan's original plan was to make Baylor very exclusive, but the additional operational expenses required the increases in tuition and enrollment to bring in revenue.

In fairness to the Sloan administration, the USA Universities have been in a facilities arms race to attract students.
USA students have been able to pay tuition for the last 25 years using USA Student loans, which has caused problems for many graduates not having the income to pay back those loans.

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Guy Noir said:

Once Sloan led Baylor down the path of borrowing money for new buildings, the die was cast, and tuition began an upward spiral that is difficult to stop. Sloan's original plan was to make Baylor very exclusive, but the additional operational expenses required the increases in tuition and enrollment to bring in revenue.

In fairness to the Sloan administration, the USA Universities have been in a facilities arms race to attract students.
USA students have been able to pay tuition for the last 25 years using USA Student loans, which has caused problems for many graduates not having the income to pay back those loans.




Yea he got a lot of flak for that

But not sure Baylor could be the one school not going on a building spree when every single one of our competitors was doing the same.

It was a damed it you do and damed if you don't situation…
canoso
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Guy Noir said:

Once Sloan led Baylor down the path of borrowing money for new buildings, the die was cast, and tuition began an upward spiral that is difficult to stop. Sloan's original plan was to make Baylor very exclusive, but the additional operational expenses required the increases in tuition and enrollment to bring in revenue.

In fairness to the Sloan administration, the USA Universities have been in a facilities arms race to attract students.
USA students have been able to pay tuition for the last 25 years using USA Student loans, which has caused problems for many graduates not having the income to pay back those loans.



An Underwater Basketweaving major will do that to one, yes.
LTbear
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KaiBear said:



The dream of rubbing elbows with the 'right' ( rich ) people.

There are far, far better institutions for that, and many of them are much cheaper, too.
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