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That would be nice but will it last more than 48 hours???

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I think the real driver of this one was this:

"More recently, experts have estimated that the U.S. has now about 2 weeks of oil left (as of late July).
That comes from the reported usage data from the EIA which calculates U.S. daily petroleum consumption (products supplied) are roughly 20.5 million barrels per day.

Therefore, with just 319M barrels in the SPR and 20.5 million barrels being used per day, that means around the SPR has just about 15 days of supply."

The fuel price spike in September would have been brutal if Trump had given the go ahead on the attack.

That having been said having this peace stick more than a few weeks completely depends on whether Israel can convince/coerce/demand that Trump abandon it.

Wonder which final cost is higher? Bribing your way out or bombing your way out?

Trump on Iran: Obama was taken to the cleaners. He thought he could bribe his way out. He gave them billions. You can’t bribe your way out. All you can do is fight your way out. pic.twitter.com/gkQUs5yq22

— Acyn (@Acyn) August 5, 2026

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We are in the "last chance" part of the cycle

"This is a last chance," Trump says of Iran. "This is a last chance for them to sign a good document." He said talks are happening but declined to say where. "I mean, they're going to go quickly, one way or the other," he said. "We're talking about the strait, the opening of the… pic.twitter.com/TTsFvB33xI

— Jennifer Jacobs (@JenniferJJacobs) August 3, 2026

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Next Last Chance

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It's like a country song.

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The next planned canceled strike will be not just the biggest since WWII but probably bigger than the start of WWIII, if not the actual beginning of WWIII. I know there are more opportunities for superlatives I'm missing.

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I've heard that Space Force and their space lasers will be involved in the next threat.

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Hopefully the wookies will help us.

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Enjoy your prolonged rant, then.

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Nobody enjoys, what Trump used to call, pointless Middle East wars.

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Wow, guess I never realized that wars were to be enjoyed. Who enjoyed WWII? Or Vietnam? Or the American Civil War? Or any other war in human history?

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The leaders enjoy wars. The citizens and soldiers die. Can you tell me with a straight face that Trump isn't enjoying this? Have you see his social media regarding the war?.

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He ought to be ashamed of himself.

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Rather insulting to not at least get the actual general's ranks at least in the same army. "Patton" looks like he's in a bad red army cosplay. MacArthur is somehow a major general and also an upside down Corporal.

Embarrassing.

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He's right about one thing. MacArthur got us too deep into Korea to easily get out and Patton would have done the same in Europe if he had the chance. Both were narcissists of the highest order.

MacArthur and Patton, however, had actual courage and some areas of competence.

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MacArthur had a host of issues, but I think he did ok overall given what he had to work with in Korea.

Patton was absolutely right and we should have kept all of our armored divisions rolling east as Germany collapsed. Patton was a complicated man, and far from perfect, but May-September 1945 was our best chance to stave off the Cold War. Obviously who knows what else might have come after, but we eliminate the Soviet Union and the Iron Curtin and the second half of the 20th century is certainly different.

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Sure, attacking Russia has proved successful for so many great military powers. And America was keen to keep fighting after four years of deep sacrifice.

MacArthur's hubris forced the Chinese into the war, almost hot the Eighth Army annihilated, and kept the war going for years.

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Enjoy your prolonged rant, then.

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Nobody enjoys, what Trump used to call, pointless Middle East wars.

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Wow, guess I never realized that wars were to be enjoyed. Who enjoyed WWII? Or Vietnam? Or the American Civil War? Or any other war in human history?

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The leaders enjoy wars. The citizens and soldiers die. Can you tell me with a straight face that Trump isn't enjoying this? Have you see his social media regarding the war?.

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He ought to be ashamed of himself.

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Rather insulting to not at least get the actual general's ranks at least in the same army. "Patton" looks like he's in a bad red army cosplay. MacArthur is somehow a major general and also an upside down Corporal.

Embarrassing.

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He's right about one thing. MacArthur got us too deep into Korea to easily get out and Patton would have done the same in Europe if he had the chance. Both were narcissists of the highest order.

MacArthur and Patton, however, had actual courage and some areas of competence.

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MacArthur had a host of issues, but I think he did ok overall given what he had to work with in Korea.

Patton was absolutely right and we should have kept all of our armored divisions rolling east as Germany collapsed. Patton was a complicated man, and far from perfect, but May-September 1945 was our best chance to stave off the Cold War. Obviously who knows what else might have come after, but we eliminate the Soviet Union and the Iron Curtin and the second half of the 20th century is certainly different.

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Sure, attacking Russia has proved successful for so many great military powers. And America was keen to keep fighting after four years of deep sacrifice.

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But none of them were led by the military mastermind that is Volodymyr Zelensky.

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Cry more.

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He doesn't care about you. All you're good for is to buy more Trump coin. Your retirement, your children's education, your lesbian side chick.

As it relates to you? He starts the day with 12 ****s and ends the day with a dozen ****s.

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The difference between us includes that I am not obsessed with Trump.

He never gave me anything, I don't owe him anything. I just don't lie about him the way you do.

You need to step back and gain some perspective.

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You ostrich for Trump. This is life during wartime. This ain't no party. This ain't no disco. This ain't no fooling around.

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I make a salient point, you throw out of context verses from a band cooler than you will ever be.

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Cooler than me? Shiiiiiit!

I got three passports, a couple of visas you don't even know my real name!

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he hasn't been out of Texas. Its obvious

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Heh

JR once again is not only wrong, if he had paid attention to some of my posts he'd know I have worked in three continents and visited most of them.

The only obvious thing here is JR's ignorance and addiction to spite.

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point taken. where abroad did you work/live? curious

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Canada, China, England (most of the UK actually). Does Hong Kong count on its own or is it part of China?

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thanks. Hong Kong is part of China these days, but it counts. Did you live in those spots or business trips? just curious.

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Business, usually on things like physical audits. I asked about Hong Kong because the locals usually think of Hong Kong as its own thing, the same way people in Manhattan consider themselves apart from the rest of New York. The political situation is a different animal. A little tricky when your company deals with individual people as well as officials.

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yes, HK is still a bit of its own thing still. You can tell a little difference, but not much. We spend the weekend there from time to time ....eating! only an hour and a half flight about $100 per head for flight.

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Now Shanghai is something a lot of people miss, a totally great city. Think of it as the China version of Chicago, except seafood instead of steak. They also have a cool Museum of Technology, maybe not something for everyone but totally in my wheelhouse.

Almost everything you can get in HK and half the price. Including the hotels.

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agreed on Shanghai. Love the Soup Dumplings there. Chilling out on the Bund is usually fun. Years ago when there on business, went to that hotel when Lost in Translation was filmed. Fairly cool. Honestly, whilst I like and or respect most everyone, I had some less than great experiences with the Chinese . Lots of Chinese here in as Expats and tourists. Not terribly well behaved. They are only tolerated around here and the will drop some RMB and will let you know. Very antithetical to Thai culture.

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There's a Park Hyatt in Shanghai, but Lost in Translation was filmed at the one in Tokyo. Just FYI.