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President Trump announces military strikes on Iran: Operation Epic Fury
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canoso said:cowboycwr said:
Have we won this war yet?
No. But for perspective's sake, has the US won any war wince WWII?
Poverty? Measles?
Military has lost significant leadership under Hegseth. Driscoll just left. He and George were leading the "modernization" efforts based on what was learned in Ukraine.
Any time we have overly political military leadership that removes a lot of commanding officers you have to wonder who is being served? An ego or the American people?
That aside, I am not going to follow this as much anymore. I would like to be up to date, and I don't want to lapse into apathy, but indeterminable unjustifiable Middle East wars will melt anyone's brain.
We should all be outraged, but life is too short to be outraged as often as following this administration would require. Not about to be an insufferable bootlicker either.
That aside, I am not going to follow this as much anymore. I would like to be up to date, and I don't want to lapse into apathy, but indeterminable unjustifiable Middle East wars will melt anyone's brain.
We should all be outraged, but life is too short to be outraged as often as following this administration would require. Not about to be an insufferable bootlicker either.
Porteroso said:
Any time we have overly political military leadership that removes a lot of commanding officers you have to wonder who is being served? An ego or the American people?
That aside, I am not going to follow this as much anymore. I would like to be up to date, and I don't want to lapse into apathy, but indeterminable unjustifiable Middle East wars will melt anyone's brain.
We should all be outraged, but life is too short to be outraged as often as following this administration would require. Not about to be an insufferable bootlicker either.
Not that Pete Hegseth is in any way a George Marshall, but here is some food for thought:
"WHAT WAS GEN. GEORGE MARSHALL'S SECRET?
"There are no bad soldiers only bad generals" Napoleon.
The book The Generals by Thomas Ricks struck such a chord with me on the topic of leadership and team building, that I feel compelled to share the key points of the book. With the global political crisis looming in September of 1939, General George C. Marshall received a clear directive from FDR. His mission was to build a world class army, and fast. He inherited a feeble ill-equipped army of 190,000 troops. Many of the officers were holdover veterans from WWI waiting to retire. What was the first step he took knowing he had to build a giant Army 40x its current size? He fired 600 officers, keeping only 11 of 43 Generals. He created a preferred leader profile and objectively removed those leaders who were risk averse, plodding, or lacking the energy, passion and skills needed to perform at the topmost level."
Link to the article:
https://misuragroup.com/post/what-was-gen-george-marshall-s-secret/
Mike Johnson on Iranians: "It's apparently part of their religion that they can just lie to someone they disagree with" pic.twitter.com/rIGFLqaFZn
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) September 1, 2026
For a long time, bombing and killing innocent people at wedding parties was a trademark of Barack Obama, but apparently its validity has expired because now Trump is doing it as part of his noble and inspiring campaign to "liberate" Iranians by murdering them. https://t.co/JJ3F8gxlof
— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) September 1, 2026
Iran Targets Marine Barracks In Jordan, Sends Drones On Bahrain & Kuwait, After Trump's New Strikes
Summary
Just in case any of you still think this is going well.
Summary
- Explosions in Jordan reported amid initial Iranian retaliation, drones on Bahrain.
- Reports of fresh US strike wave on southern Iran, oil soars
Just in case any of you still think this is going well.
The Gulf War: we achieved our objective of liberating Kuwait. The aftermath was messy but also a separate issue. They had failed to plan for a quick victory.
cowboycwr said:canoso said:cowboycwr said:
Have we won this war yet?
No. But for perspective's sake, has the US won any war wince WWII?
Well that can be tricky since we haven't been in a declared war since WW2.
But we did win multiple "military actions" like the Persian Gulf, Panama, Grenada, etc.
The U.S. has had only 5 declared wars in our history: 1812, Mexico, Spain, & the two World Wars.
Mitch Blood Green said:canoso said:cowboycwr said:
Have we won this war yet?
No. But for perspective's sake, has the US won any war wince WWII?
Poverty? Measles?
The War on Poverty was a huge failure. After many trillions of taxpayer dollars spent on various socialist programs, poverty as just as bad if not worse and too many people are stuck in a multigenerational rut caused by the govt. But it is all relative since America's "poor" have many luxuries that rich people elsewhere don't have.
boognish_bear said:Mike Johnson on Iranians: "It's apparently part of their religion that they can just lie to someone they disagree with" pic.twitter.com/rIGFLqaFZn
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) September 1, 2026
Naturally. Their God is a murderer and "the Father of lies" so their religion allows them to do both. Obviously, Islam is a false religion since they deny the deity of Christ.
We will have to wait to see if thrir is a correction to that report. Usually when the media repeats terrorist propaganda (whether from Hamas or Iran) it does not take long for the truth to come out.
Mitch Blood Green said:canoso said:cowboycwr said:
Have we won this war yet?
No. But for perspective's sake, has the US won any war wince WWII?
Poverty? Measles?
We gave Measles back under RFK Jr... Sort of like Iran, so we can win again.
RFK had nothing to do with bringing millions of illegals, many of whom had measles, TB, and other diseases the US had eradicated long ago.
Price for a gallon of regular gasoline near me (Austin area) shot up from $3.42 on Monday to $3.79 yesterday. Your chart ends on 8/20, so the reality is actually significantly worse than what it portrays.
It sucks, but America has become so soft and coddled that I think we truly need to experience the first-hand consequences of electing such incompetent and corrupt leadership to finally wake up. Even some of the 3-time Trump voters in here are starting to get it, but a majority of them are still stuck in la-la-land.
It sucks, but America has become so soft and coddled that I think we truly need to experience the first-hand consequences of electing such incompetent and corrupt leadership to finally wake up. Even some of the 3-time Trump voters in here are starting to get it, but a majority of them are still stuck in la-la-land.
historian said:
RFK had nothing to do with bringing millions of illegals, many of whom had measles, TB, and other diseases the US had eradicated long ago.
If we hadn't had the Vax fear mongering we would not have this problem. Go talk to actual infectious disease doctors, not NewsMax. We have this problem because people stopped vaccinating their kids, not because we have illegals.
The idiots that went on the anti-vaccination rants over circumstantial or antidotal evidence rather than actual science. Ot worse go around saying that the CDC and others are "Fake News"
We did, and the dude fkn lied to the world
Do you live under a rock? or are you just that stupid?
Do you live under a rock? or are you just that stupid?
The price of gas got to like 5 bucks under autopen and giggles DEI... why do you now care?
WAR.
- Gen. UF
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D!
Go Bears!!
Go Bears!
HuMcK said:
Price for a gallon of regular gasoline near me (Austin area) shot up from $3.42 on Monday to $3.79 yesterday. Your chart ends on 8/20, so the reality is actually significantly worse than what it portrays.
It sucks, but America has become so soft and coddled that I think we truly need to experience the first-hand consequences of electing such incompetent and corrupt leadership to finally wake up. Even some of the 3-time Trump voters in here are starting to get it, but a majority of them are still stuck in la-la-land.
I'm in wait-and-see mode. We saw his incompetence in 2016 and reelected him in 2024.
Are you saying you still believe the guy who took the 5th over 100 times? The rest of us knew he was lying 5 years ago.
That's laughable compared to Pres Autopen. There wasn't any competence anywhere in that administration.
More importantly, unlike most presidents (either party) Trump put America first and delivered on his promises. Is incompetence in a politician keeping promises your definition of incompetence?
More importantly, unlike most presidents (either party) Trump put America first and delivered on his promises. Is incompetence in a politician keeping promises your definition of incompetence?
As for known targets from the Iranian response, which saw an initial ballistic missile wave target US bases in Jordan, some of the following has emerged:
- Camp Titin & Prince Hassan Base (Jordan): ballistic strikes.
- Erbil Bases (Iraq): Combined missile/drone.
- Ali Al Salem (Kuwait): HQs & drone ramps hit.
- US Naval Base (Bahrain): Casualties & destroyed aircraft reported.
I'm wondering if there is a list for things we hit in this conflict?
historian said:
That's laughable compared to Pres Autopen. There wasn't any competence anywhere in that administration.
More importantly, unlike most presidents (either party) Trump put America first and delivered on his promises. Is incompetence in a politician keeping promises your definition of incompetence?
Autopen didn't destroy the budget, get us bombed out of the Middle East, purge the military, sleep in press conferences, all while pooping his pants.
Mitch Blood Green said:
Military has lost significant leadership under Hegseth. Driscoll just left. He and George were leading the "modernization" efforts based on what was learned in Ukraine.
There's probably an IDF alum we can slide in there
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
He wasn't mentally competent to do anything at all
That's how much of a liberal imbecile you are to not even realize that...
That's how much of a liberal imbecile you are to not even realize that...
Mitch Blood Green said:historian said:
That's laughable compared to Pres Autopen. There wasn't any competence anywhere in that administration.
More importantly, unlike most presidents (either party) Trump put America first and delivered on his promises. Is incompetence in a politician keeping promises your definition of incompetence?
Autopen didn't destroy the budget, get us bombed out of the Middle East, purge the military, sleep in press conferences, all while pooping his pants.
True... he just destroyed the budget by spending in unnecessary areas, left the Middle East/Afghanistan with our tail between our legs, kicked out competent military leaders while promoting mentally ill DEI candidates, slept in press conferences, speeches, etc and pooped his pants while wandering around lost because he didn't know where to go or what to say that wasn't on a teleprompter.
Danielsjackson114 said:
He wasn't mentally competent to do anything at all
That's how much of a liberal imbecile you are to not even realize that...
The point is that a president who does nothing but sleep is better than one who actively tries to destroy the economy and instigates unnecessary wars. Given the choice between happy dementia and grumpy dementia, happy is better.
Obama is not the topic here.
That is pretty crazy.
Why not say "I hate big bad meanie Trump, and I prefer a geriatric patient instead"
Why not say "I hate big bad meanie Trump, and I prefer a geriatric patient instead"
Danielsjackson114 said:
That is pretty crazy.
Why not say "I hate big bad meanie Trump, and I prefer a geriatric patient instead"
I prefer almost anything to Trump. He is corrupt. He is anti-democracy. He is inept. He is a misogynist. He is a racist. He is a profligate spender. He has done the country more damage than 10 Bidens, which is really saying something.
Frank Galvin said:Danielsjackson114 said:
That is pretty crazy.
Why not say "I hate big bad meanie Trump, and I prefer a geriatric patient instead"
I prefer almost anything to Trump. He is corrupt. He is anti-democracy. He is inept. He is a misogynist. He is a racist. He is a profligate spender. He has done the country more damage than 10 Bidens, whihc is really saying something.
My friend, you're missing on all two cylinders.
You are describing Obama, Biden, Kamala, and many other Dems but you typed the name "Trump". More Leftist projection.