Danielsjackson114 said:

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https://abcnews.com/Politics/jeffrey-epstein-donated-democrats-1990s-early-2000s/story?id=64255485

Why dont you care about the dems that received donations from Epstein?


Oh yeah TDS

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Quite an article. One would think it was from Fox, wouldn't they?

Every so often the MSM actually dies some real journalism, even on political topics. Rush Limbaugh called it "accidental journalism." An appropriate label.

FLunaticbear needs to see a therapist

Danielsjackson114 said:

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FLunaticbear needs to see a therapist

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classic UIPC.........

- p*Carl p*Jung

p*D!

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historian said:

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You are describing Obama, Biden, Kamala, and many other Dems but you typed the name "Trump". More Leftist projection.

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Trump is a unique President, he can't be put in with any other modern President. Even Nixon had more respect for our laws, form of Government and processes. Trump is about Trump.

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LBJ on line 1.

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If only Trump had half the restraint and ethics of LBJ.

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LBJ was the definition of sleazy. He is probably in hell right now wishing he'd thought of selling branded golden shoes.
If you want to hear real ego, listen to his call to the Hagar CEO about his pants order.

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It's my favorite recording of a president.

That's an idea I think we can all agree on. But many on the Left will be disappointed that the Republican they most hate won't be touched. For example, there is no evidence Trump is guilty of any of the crimes they have accused him of. All the lawfare accomplished was reveal their corruption, incompetence, foolishness, & criminal behavior. And they exonerated Trump of any real crimes.

TDS comes with a high price

The guy was mentioned 30,000 times in 5000 files. Come on, that isn't enough to investigate by an Independent Counsel? There is no TDS there. Actually, there is too much Trump love from his supporters saying he shouldn't be investigated. 30,000 times? And you are saying he is fine... I think you and JD have a mental issue on Trump worship and let him off on things you would be screaming about if it was a Dem..

Being friends with Epstein is not a crime

Holy fk, you have lost it with TDS. Remember when you said Trump was pocketing Trump Gold Card money?

You are starting to Make up shyte in your head and believing it

Danielsjackson114 said:

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Being friends with Epstein is not a crime

Holy fk, you have lost it with TDS. Remember when you said Trump was pocketing Trump Gold Card money?

You are starting to Make up shyte in your head and believing it

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Of course it's not a crime. But it is interesting. Epstein was not just friends with anyone. I think Donald knew Epstein was a pervert, abd liked him, but when he realized he was into underage girls, and that Epstein was poaching his employees, he cut ties. He could never admit it, because then everyone would say he should have reported it.

Danielsjackson114 said:

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Being friends with Epstein is not a crime

Holy fk, you have lost it with TDS. Remember when you said Trump was pocketing Trump Gold Card money?

You are starting to Make up shyte in your head and believing it

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he's an extreme case........

until he comes to grips with his inner peccary, I don't think there's any hope for the man.

- p*carl

D!

Also the left would have blown up trumps presidency if there was anything

J.R. said:

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historian said:

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That's an idea I think we can all agree on. But many on the Left will be disappointed that the Republican they most hate won't be touched. For example, there is no evidence Trump is guilty of any of the crimes they have accused him of. All the lawfare accomplished was reveal their corruption, incompetence, foolishness, & criminal behavior. And they exonerated Trump of any real crimes.

TDS comes with a high price

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yeah. Piggy in in there thousands of times. Why is he going to the end of the earth to cover up. Cuz he likes them young. You mean the same guy who was banging a porn star while Former Escort Melania was home nursing Barron. Great guy

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need a little more cowbell..........

- el UF

.... keep on piggin'.

Danielsjackson114 said:

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Being friends with Epstein is not a crime

Holy fk, you have lost it with TDS. Remember when you said Trump was pocketing Trump Gold Card money?

You are starting to Make up shyte in your head and believing it

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You have no credibility.

I said Trump was profiting. I know the following concept is beyond you, but I will try.

Why is his picture on there? Why does he want his name on everything? Hint, it is more than being a narcissist.

It is called branding. He has turned citizenship into a Trump commodity. That has value. Maybe not in your Dairy Queen employment world, but in big boy world branding has value. Notice, it is not named after the United States, the actual place where they are getting citizenship. It is named after Trump with his picture.

I know you don't get it. But, in the world of real business branding is very valuable and expensive.

This is a short estimate using various methods to determine value of brand.

"Estimating a Quantitative Branding Equivalent"
Brand valuation of such political initiatives can be conceptualized analogously to earned media value (EMV) and association premium in marketing analytics:

Media valuation method: EMV for media coverage of Trump Gold Card can be estimated using advertising equivalence coverage represents global advertising worth $100-$500 million (conservative for high-profile controversies and repeated mentions), the branding valuation would be in that range.

Luxury and exclusivity brand multiplier: Trump's previous branding (Trump Organization, licensing deals) suggests that alignment with wealth-generating initiatives can increase perceived brand premium by 5-15% in high-net-worth markets, providing indirect revenue through licensing, endorsements, and real estate perception.

Starting to get it? I take it you weren't a business major at Baylor? Watch Mad Men, that may give you an idea.

What a load of bull***** Again, that's just mental gymnastics.

Get help for your TDS, please. You have a problem.

Danielsjackson114 said:

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What a load of bull***** Again, that's just mental gymnastics.

Get help for your TDS, please. You have a problem.

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Our President is commoditizing our Nation and you are more interested in Bannon prebunking strategies.

You know nothing about me and probably nothing about Vance. 30k mentions does not mean there is any incriminating evidence. Since the holes have been released, everyone knows the Lefties have been combing over them looking for anything they can use. And yet they still have nothing.

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You are certainly acting like you have no relationship with our Lord.

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My Lord is Jesus Christ. I'm sorry I have offended your sensibilities about yours.

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My lord is Jesus Christ. If yours was as well, you would not act as you do here.

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Keep preening Pharisee.

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Oldbear83 said:

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You are certainly acting like you have no relationship with our Lord.

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My Lord is Jesus Christ. I'm sorry I have offended your sensibilities about yours.

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My lord is Jesus Christ. If yours was as well, you would not act as you do here.

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Keep preening Pharisee.

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OK, Caiaphas.

Uniparty

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Uniparty

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There was a time we were closer to the middle and were able to move bi-partisan legislation. Was that the "Uniparty"? Or was that how the system is supposed to work? Was the Uniparty bad or just the three Branches of Government working together well?

I would say the Uniparty was under the Reagan/Bush/Bush Administrations.

Clinton what actually went down was "Uniparty-ish", but he was not liked personally. So, it looks more combative than it really was, in my opinion. But the way we (the Nation) did our business was very similar to the Uniparty.


Obama/Trump/Biden/Trump I put in the combative catagory. I don't think ANY fall into the traditional GOP/Democrat philosophies. Self-serving and agenda driven, all of them. Trump 1 was the best of this crowd, as he had a mix of his combative MAGA with actual GOP/Uniparty Adults that could run the Government. I thought it worked well. However, similar to a Billy Martin coached Baseball team it could not work long term, we are seeing that now. Trump can't be a lame duck.

Overall, I thought Bush Sr was the best, but he caught it because he actually did what was needed. Clinton was similar in policy and shifts when things didn't work out, but was hated so strongly by the Right it could never be truly functional.

That is my non-academic view.

Unfortunately, I don't think so. In the past, the partisans in Congress managed to accomplish things through negotiation and compromise. Nowadays it's all hyper partisan vitriol. When one side fantasizes about murdering the other, it's difficult to work together on anything!

From what I've seen (I'm no expert), the uniparty is a label to describe when the partisans unite against the people. It's the same thing because when they "get things gone" it always is for their selfish interests and against the interests of the voters and the people in general. It's also often unconstitutional. The uniparty has been around for many decades although it looks different at times.

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Unfortunately, I don't think so. In the past, the partisans in Congress managed to accomplish things through negotiation and compromise. Nowadays it's all hyper partisan vitriol. When one side fantasizes about murdering the other, it's difficult to work together on anything!

From what I've seen (I'm no expert), the uniparty is a label to describe when the partisans unite against the people. It's the same thing because when they "get things gone" it always is for their selfish interests and against the interests of the voters and the people in general. It's also often unconstitutional. The uniparty has been around for many decades although it looks different at times.

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Gotcha. Our definition of Uniparty is different. I see it as when both Parties pretty much represent and pass the same thing, not a conspiracy against the American people. The danger of the Uniparty from my perspective is no real choice or opposing voice. We need opposing voices. The more debate the better the solution.

"The more debate the better the solution."



On May 22, 1856, the "world's greatest deliberative body" became a combat zone. In one of the most dramatic and deeply ominous moments in the Senate's entire history, a member of the House of Representatives entered the Senate Chamber and savagely beat a senator into unconsciousness.

So just maybe 'more debate' leads to less desirable outcomes.

Oldbear83 said:

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"The more debate the better the solution."



On May 22, 1856, the "world's greatest deliberative body" became a combat zone. In one of the most dramatic and deeply ominous moments in the Senate's entire history, a member of the House of Representatives entered the Senate Chamber and savagely beat a senator into unconsciousness.

So just maybe 'more debate' leads to less desirable outcomes.

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So you think we should have just let the slavery issue alone huh?

Bestweekeverr said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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"The more debate the better the solution."



On May 22, 1856, the "world's greatest deliberative body" became a combat zone. In one of the most dramatic and deeply ominous moments in the Senate's entire history, a member of the House of Representatives entered the Senate Chamber and savagely beat a senator into unconsciousness.

So just maybe 'more debate' leads to less desirable outcomes.

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So you think we should have just let the slavery issue alone huh?

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Of course not. But this incident is just one part of proof that the 'Congress used to cooperate and be honorable' was always a steaming pile of excrement.

There is nothing wrong with partisan debate. Sometimes it's long overdue.

Bestweekeverr said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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"The more debate the better the solution."



On May 22, 1856, the "world's greatest deliberative body" became a combat zone. In one of the most dramatic and deeply ominous moments in the Senate's entire history, a member of the House of Representatives entered the Senate Chamber and savagely beat a senator into unconsciousness.

So just maybe 'more debate' leads to less desirable outcomes.

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So you think we should have just let the slavery issue alone huh?

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We should have bought out slavery like the British did. Would have been about half the cost in money, and most of us have walked some of the battlefields where the human cost was paid in blood.

I agree with need for debate and different ideas. Historically, that's how we got more constructive effort and compromise.

I've never seen the term "uniparty" used for that normal process. I've only seen it as a negative think when politicians unite against the people.

Oldbear83 said:

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"The more debate the better the solution."



On May 22, 1856, the "world's greatest deliberative body" became a combat zone. In one of the most dramatic and deeply ominous moments in the Senate's entire history, a member of the House of Representatives entered the Senate Chamber and savagely beat a senator into unconsciousness.

So just maybe 'more debate' leads to less desirable outcomes.

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Yeah, so shut it down. 170 years ago there was a fight. No more debate...

Really? Pre-Civil War era? That is a pretty good endorsement for discussion...

Back in 1865, FLBear, your side lost.

Cry more.