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This reminds me of the Gulf War in 1990:

LMAO 🤣

Volume up 🔊 pic.twitter.com/XSBkxQdyLg

— Dr. Eli David (@DrEliDavid) February 28, 2026

Rush Limbaugh had the original audio of this on the radio with "Bomb Iraq." Just the other day I ..............

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and basically no Iranian air defenses, and the ability to drop a precision missile down a chimney stack....

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This reminds me of the Gulf War in 1990:

LMAO 🤣

Volume up 🔊 pic.twitter.com/XSBkxQdyLg

— Dr. Eli David (@DrEliDavid) February 28, 2026

Rush Limbaugh had the original audio of this on the radio with "Bomb Iraq." Just the other day I was thinking it should be revived and someone did!

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Nothing about this is like the Gulf War. Iran as a nation state has already hit back harder than Iraq did. Iran is an actual country, with 4x the population and 6x the land mass of Iraq. It's not just lines on a map drawn up by the British in the 1900s.

So if this fails to effect "regime change", what next?

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we should probably give it at least 48 hours before declaring failure...

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If we're going to war, we probably should think it out a little beyond 48 hours.

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Not to worry. It is in fact a 96-hour plan.

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Well, we will see. Venezuela may have given Donald a false sense of security. We will see what the follow up moves are. Not Donald's strength. Hope someone thought this out beyond the sound bites. What are the mission objectives? When do they know what success is or isn't? Not hearing much on that.

Not criticism, just discussion now that the initial stage is over.

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initial stage is not over - 3 days was - more or less - the initial phase.

- UF

this has been war gamed and planned out for a loooong time.

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ok, let me re-phrase. I keep forgetting this Board can require very exact wording from select people. So...

To be exact. Initial contact. Initial contact is over, we made our moves. Iran has now started their moves and will be reaching a re-load point, what adjustments are made? EVERY plan does not go as planned, it is the nature of conflict. Not a value judgement, what has DoD have planned?

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ISR knows where everything / everyone is.

so, starting w/ that.....

- UF

and basically no Iranian air defenses, and the ability to drop a precision missile down a chimney stack....

D!

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Come on, it is a live war versus a live opponent. It does not go according to a script. Humans are not logical and Religious zealots are even less so.

They are firing missiles. Even the best ADA is not fool proof. What is in the warheads? Where are they aiming?

They hit Dubai and UAE because those populations are not used to war, like Israel. That was a curve ball. How do we react? When politics starts?

They lobbed a few ballistic missiles at the Lincoln. That was a curve. They didn't get close according to CENTCOM, but now you have to work that in. Maybe target lists change? Maybe we have to sent in small groups to take those sites we can't reach with airpower in the mountains.

It gets complicated and it does not mean it is bad or mistake. There are several on here with a lot of real world experience, their inputs on next steps and evaluations are interesting. Some in military, some in law, some in policy, some in intel. If everything has to be cheerleading, no real discussion happens. I for one would love to hear it.

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This reminds me of the Gulf War in 1990:

LMAO 🤣

Volume up 🔊 pic.twitter.com/XSBkxQdyLg

— Dr. Eli David (@DrEliDavid) February 28, 2026

Rush Limbaugh had the original audio of this on the radio with "Bomb Iraq." Just the other day I was thinking it should be revived and someone did!

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Nothing about this is like the Gulf War. Iran as a nation state has already hit back harder than Iraq did. Iran is an actual country, with 4x the population and 6x the land mass of Iraq. It's not just lines on a map drawn up by the British in the 1900s.

So if this fails to effect "regime change", what next?

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we should probably give it at least 48 hours before declaring failure...

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If we're going to war, we probably should think it out a little beyond 48 hours.

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Not to worry. It is in fact a 96-hour plan.

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Well, we will see. Venezuela may have given Donald a false sense of security. We will see what the follow up moves are. Not Donald's strength. Hope someone thought this out beyond the sound bites. What are the mission objectives? When do they know what success is or isn't? Not hearing much on that.

Not criticism, just discussion now that the initial stage is over.

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initial stage is not over - 3 days was - more or less - the initial phase.

- UF

this has been war gamed and planned out for a loooong time.

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ok, let me re-phrase. I keep forgetting this Board can require very exact wording from select people. So...

To be exact. Initial contact. Initial contact is over, we made our moves. Iran has now started their moves and will be reaching a re-load point, what adjustments are made? EVERY plan does not go as planned, it is the nature of conflict. Not a value judgement, what has DoD have planned?

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ISR knows where everything / everyone is.

so, starting w/ that.....

- UF

and basically no Iranian air defenses, and the ability to drop a precision missile down a chimney stack....

D!

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Come on, it is a live war versus a live opponent. It does not go according to a script. Humans are not logical and Religious zealots are even less so.

They are firing missiles. Even the best ADA is not fool proof. What is in the warheads? Where are they aiming?

They hit Dubai and UAE because those populations are not used to war, like Israel. That was a curve ball. How do we react? When politics starts?

They lobbed a few ballistic missiles at the Lincoln. That was a curve. They didn't get close according to CENTCOM, but now you have to work that in. Maybe target lists change? Maybe we have to sent in small groups to take those sites we can't reach with airpower in the mountains.

It gets complicated and it does not mean it is bad or mistake. There are several on here with a lot of real world experience, their inputs on next steps and evaluations are interesting. Some in military, some in law, some in policy, some in intel. If everything has to be cheerleading, no real discussion happens. I for one would love to hear it.

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This just feels like the scene of Ace Ventura talking out of his ass cheeks.

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Realitybites said:

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historian said:

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This reminds me of the Gulf War in 1990:

LMAO 🤣

Volume up 🔊 pic.twitter.com/XSBkxQdyLg

— Dr. Eli David (@DrEliDavid) February 28, 2026

Rush Limbaugh had the original audio of this on the radio with "Bomb Iraq." Just the other day I was thinking it should be revived and someone did!

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Nothing about this is like the Gulf War. Iran as a nation state has already hit back harder than Iraq did. Iran is an actual country, with 4x the population and 6x the land mass of Iraq. It's not just lines on a map drawn up by the British in the 1900s.

So if this fails to effect "regime change", what next?

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we should probably give it at least 48 hours before declaring failure...

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If we're going to war, we probably should think it out a little beyond 48 hours.

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Not to worry. It is in fact a 96-hour plan.

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Well, we will see. Venezuela may have given Donald a false sense of security. We will see what the follow up moves are. Not Donald's strength. Hope someone thought this out beyond the sound bites. What are the mission objectives? When do they know what success is or isn't? Not hearing much on that.

Not criticism, just discussion now that the initial stage is over.

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No worries, I can take criticism. The objective was the collapse of the Iranian state. There's no sign of it happening.

Operation Epic Fail.

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LOL

Not even 48 hours in....and the underemployed attorney is not pleased.

Gota luv the internet.

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william said:

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Realitybites said:

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This reminds me of the Gulf War in 1990:

LMAO 🤣

Volume up 🔊 pic.twitter.com/XSBkxQdyLg

— Dr. Eli David (@DrEliDavid) February 28, 2026

Rush Limbaugh had the original audio of this on the radio with "Bomb Iraq." Just the other day I was thinking it should be revived and someone did!

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Nothing about this is like the Gulf War. Iran as a nation state has already hit back harder than Iraq did. Iran is an actual country, with 4x the population and 6x the land mass of Iraq. It's not just lines on a map drawn up by the British in the 1900s.

So if this fails to effect "regime change", what next?

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we should probably give it at least 48 hours before declaring failure...

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If we're going to war, we probably should think it out a little beyond 48 hours.

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Not to worry. It is in fact a 96-hour plan.

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Well, we will see. Venezuela may have given Donald a false sense of security. We will see what the follow up moves are. Not Donald's strength. Hope someone thought this out beyond the sound bites. What are the mission objectives? When do they know what success is or isn't? Not hearing much on that.

Not criticism, just discussion now that the initial stage is over.

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initial stage is not over - 3 days was - more or less - the initial phase.

- UF

this has been war gamed and planned out for a loooong time.

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ok, let me re-phrase. I keep forgetting this Board can require very exact wording from select people. So...

To be exact. Initial contact. Initial contact is over, we made our moves. Iran has now started their moves and will be reaching a re-load point, what adjustments are made? EVERY plan does not go as planned, it is the nature of conflict. Not a value judgement, what has DoD have planned?

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ISR knows where everything / everyone is.

so, starting w/ that.....

- UF

and basically no Iranian air defenses, and the ability to drop a precision missile down a chimney stack....

D!

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Come on, it is a live war versus a live opponent. It does not go according to a script. Humans are not logical and Religious zealots are even less so.

They are firing missiles. Even the best ADA is not fool proof. What is in the warheads? Where are they aiming?

They hit Dubai and UAE because those populations are not used to war, like Israel. That was a curve ball. How do we react? When politics starts?

They lobbed a few ballistic missiles at the Lincoln. That was a curve. They didn't get close according to CENTCOM, but now you have to work that in. Maybe target lists change? Maybe we have to sent in small groups to take those sites we can't reach with airpower in the mountains.

It gets complicated and it does not mean it is bad or mistake. There are several on here with a lot of real world experience, their inputs on next steps and evaluations are interesting. Some in military, some in law, some in policy, some in intel. If everything has to be cheerleading, no real discussion happens. I for one would love to hear it.

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This just feels like the scene of Ace Ventura talking out of his ass cheeks.

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Would like to discuss like a rational adult. But, we can't have that. I have family stationed at Doha and another on the way both in AF. So, yeah I have a bit of an interest and hearing "all is well" and if you ask a question or discuss it is talking out of your butt cheeks doesn't really get it done.

It is a bit ironic. Maybe you should look in a mirror some time. This **** impacts people's lives and it is not just a debate to win.

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It's your arrogant idea that you've got all the information on what this operation entails so you can confidently denigrate it less than two days into it. That's ****ing ridiculous, even if you have family living in Tehran.

CENTCOM Update

TAMPA, Fla. – As of 9:30 am ET, March 1, three U.S. service members have been killed in action and five are seriously wounded as part of Operation Epic Fury.

Several others sustained minor shrapnel injuries and concussions — and are in the process of being…

— U.S. Central Command (@CENTCOM) March 1, 2026

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Sam Lowry said:

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Realitybites said:

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Realitybites said:

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historian said:

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This reminds me of the Gulf War in 1990:

LMAO 🤣

Volume up 🔊 pic.twitter.com/XSBkxQdyLg

— Dr. Eli David (@DrEliDavid) February 28, 2026

Rush Limbaugh had the original audio of this on the radio with "Bomb Iraq." Just the other day I was thinking it should be revived and someone did!

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Nothing about this is like the Gulf War. Iran as a nation state has already hit back harder than Iraq did. Iran is an actual country, with 4x the population and 6x the land mass of Iraq. It's not just lines on a map drawn up by the British in the 1900s.

So if this fails to effect "regime change", what next?

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we should probably give it at least 48 hours before declaring failure...

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If we're going to war, we probably should think it out a little beyond 48 hours.

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Not to worry. It is in fact a 96-hour plan.

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Well, we will see. Venezuela may have given Donald a false sense of security. We will see what the follow up moves are. Not Donald's strength. Hope someone thought this out beyond the sound bites. What are the mission objectives? When do they know what success is or isn't? Not hearing much on that.

Not criticism, just discussion now that the initial stage is over.

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No worries, I can take criticism. The objective was the collapse of the Iranian state. There's no sign of it happening.

Operation Epic Fail.

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You may need to adjust your expectations for the timing. That one, 30 minute operation in Venezuela has skewed your grasp of reality.

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It amazes me of the number of sudden experts when it comes to war fighting and military strategy. When I know none of you have ever planned and executed a Order of Battle war plan (or even know what that means). Much less took the oath, served and wore the uniform.

However, there are many on this board who have. Some have been wounded in battle, and other alums paid the supreme sacrifice.

This group can't even say "Thank You", or that the air raids were incredibly well planned and executed.

And to anyone that's actually supporting the Islamic State of Iran - you can take your civilian, woke ass home.

Signed: A proud Baylor alum and US Air Force Veteran.

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There is also a large group of Americans who dont work for the Miltary Industrial Complex who are against this war because it will add another trillion to the debt and they won't receive a thing in return other than higher inflation and higher taxes.

Unless you're Vietnam era, you volunteered and were handsomely compensated for your military service fighting wars for Israel.

Veteran disability fraud is makes up nearly half of the VA budget.

Americans dont need to prostrate themselves in gratitude to you for choosing to participate in wars no one voted for or ask your permission to have an opinion on how their taxes are spent.

I notice people throw out phrases like "regime change" as if they have full knowledge of what that would require, how it would work, and of course whether the actions taken this weekend were part of a regime change or simply offered that possibility if the actual objective of the strikes succeeded.

For those playing at home, there are four reasons for the strike that I heard about from people I consider informed. Wonder how many of them are understood by people on this board?

LIVE UPDATES: Trump admits 'we expect casualties' in Iran attacks, argues it will be 'a great deal' despite losses

— Fox News (@FoxNews) March 1, 2026

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I notice people throw out phrases like "regime change" as if they have full knowledge of what that would require, how it would work, and of course whether the actions taken this weekend were part of a regime change or simply offered that possibility if the actual objective of the strikes succeeded.

For those playing at home, there are four reasons for the strike that I heard about from people I consider informed. Wonder how many of them are understood by people on this board?

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Regime change requires boots on the ground.

Period.

JUST IN - Iran declares "jihad" as anti-US riots spread across the Middle East. Senior clerics issue fatwa against America, saying vengeance is "religious duty" for all Muslims — Telegraph

— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) March 1, 2026

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Horrific reports from prisons in Iran: The Revolutionary Guards have begun removing thousands of political prisoners and regime opponents and transporting them while bound to strategic complexes, symbols of power, and official headquarters across the country, in order to create "human shields" at target sites of the IDF and the US military to accuse the West of harming civilians in the event of an attack.
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This reminds me of the Gulf War in 1990:

LMAO 🤣

Volume up 🔊 pic.twitter.com/XSBkxQdyLg

— Dr. Eli David (@DrEliDavid) February 28, 2026

Rush Limbaugh had the original audio of this on the radio with "Bomb Iraq." Just the other day I was thinking it should be revived and someone did!

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Nothing about this is like the Gulf War. Iran as a nation state has already hit back harder than Iraq did. Iran is an actual country, with 4x the population and 6x the land mass of Iraq. It's not just lines on a map drawn up by the British in the 1900s.

So if this fails to effect "regime change", what next?

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we should probably give it at least 48 hours before declaring failure...

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If we're going to war, we probably should think it out a little beyond 48 hours.

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A lot of Boomercons are proclaiming "Mission Accomplished!"

They killed the senile 90 year old man who runs around in his pajamas! Iran is "free" now to install a pro-Israel puppet government.

Oh wait... killing the grandpa jihad didn't immediately cause the government to surrender and fall to their knees?

What? Martyring him actually galvanized the population against us and into the arms of the Islamic government?...

Well... Plan B... surely dropping bombs on schools and killing children will turn around public sentiment and start the revolution!

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jdub_316 said:

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It amazes me of the number of sudden experts when it comes to war fighting and military strategy. When I know none of you have ever planned and executed a Order of Battle war plan (or even know what that means). Much less took the oath, served and wore the uniform.

However, there are many on this board who have. Some have been wounded in battle, and other alums paid the supreme sacrifice.

This group can't even say "Thank You", or that the air raids were incredibly well planned and executed.

And to anyone that's actually supporting the Islamic State of Iran - you can take your civilian, woke ass home.

Signed: A proud Baylor alum and US Air Force Veteran.

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There is also a large group of Americans who dont work for the Miltary Industrial Complex who are against this war because it will add another trillion to the debt and they won't receive a thing in return other than higher inflation and higher taxes.

Unless you're Vietnam era, you volunteered and were handsomely compensated for your military service fighting wars for Israel.

Veteran disability fraud is makes up nearly half of the VA budget.

Americans dont need to prostrate themselves in gratitude to you for choosing to participate in wars no one voted for or ask your permission to have an opinion on how their taxes are spent.

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I did gladly volunteer, but was in no way "handsomely" compensated. Yes, I learned skills that have allowed me to have a very successful career after my service, However, many enlisted troops are barely living above the poverty line. You don't know what the hell you're talking about - so I would suggest you keep those types of thoughts to yourself.

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What thoughts?

Veteran disability fraud?

Guys getting a hangnail and claiming 110% disability and receiving $11,000 a month for the rest of their lives?

Hey listen... if you cant beat them... join them..

If I could go back in time to operation Iraqi Freedom I would have enlisted too. Collecting 6 figures in tax free money every year would really help in this economy.

We’ve spent $8 trillion in the Middle East

That’s 100 X annual federal spending on roads and bridges

Picture how great our country could be if we’d spent that $ here

Imagine how affordable groceries & housing would be if we hadn’t printed all that $https://t.co/cQ6SYZAmsL

— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) March 1, 2026

More footage from the U.S. base at Erbil International Airport after the Iranian strike. pic.twitter.com/D4d75lbXaD

— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) March 1, 2026

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It amazes me of the number of sudden experts when it comes to war fighting and military strategy. When I know none of you have ever planned and executed a Order of Battle war plan (or even know what that means). Much less took the oath, served and wore the uniform.

However, there are many on this board who have. Some have been wounded in battle, and other alums paid the supreme sacrifice.

This group can't even say "Thank You", or that the air raids were incredibly well planned and executed.

And to anyone that's actually supporting the Islamic State of Iran - you can take your civilian, woke ass home.

Signed: A proud Baylor alum and US Air Force Veteran.

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There is also a large group of Americans who dont work for the Miltary Industrial Complex who are against this war because it will add another trillion to the debt and they won't receive a thing in return other than higher inflation and higher taxes.

Unless you're Vietnam era, you volunteered and were handsomely compensated for your military service fighting wars for Israel.

Veteran disability fraud is makes up nearly half of the VA budget.

Americans dont need to prostrate themselves in gratitude to you for choosing to participate in wars no one voted for or ask your permission to have an opinion on how their taxes are spent.

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I did gladly volunteer, but was in no way "handsomely" compensated. Yes, I learned skills that have allowed me to have a very successful career after my service, However, many enlisted troops are barely living above the poverty line. You don't know what the hell you're talking about - so I would suggest you keep those types of thoughts to yourself.

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What thoughts?

Veteran disability fraud?

Guys getting a hangnail and claiming 110% disability and receiving $11,000 a month for the rest of their lives?

Hey listen... if you cant beat them... join them..

If I could go back in time to operation Iraqi Freedom I would have enlisted too. Collecting 6 figures in tax free money every year would really help in this economy.

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I've never claimed any VA benefit other than using a VA backed loan to help buy my first house. My brother has legit disabilities. He lost part of his hearing, he was wounded and after retiring has legit PTSD. He retired as an O-4/Major. Trust me - with his retirement and disabilities - he's not making 6 figures.

I do believe there are some fraudsters out there, but there are several Vets that are severely in need of care and support.

I'm a leading Veteran's rights advocate in the Metroplex. I would encourage you to look more positively on our Veterans than showing the disdain for them in your posts. It's because of their service that you have the freedom to post such trash about them. I agree with a lot you say, but this is a bad take and is disgusting.

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Its not a personal attack on you brother... I am just venting some general frustrations.

As you can tell I'm really piss poor at self-censorship so I am really thankful to live in the only country on earth with true freedom of speech!

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I notice people throw out phrases like "regime change" as if they have full knowledge of what that would require, how it would work, and of course whether the actions taken this weekend were part of a regime change or simply offered that possibility if the actual objective of the strikes succeeded.

For those playing at home, there are four reasons for the strike that I heard about from people I consider informed. Wonder how many of them are understood by people on this board?

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Regime change requires boots on the ground.

Period.

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Wrong

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So to the extent one thinks its wise to avoid nuclear proliferation amongst the islamic states, then terminating an Iranian nuclear program is an imperative. Iran gets nuclear capability, then one of two things have to happen = either WE extend our nuclear protection umbrella over the entire Persian Gulf region, or we allow other Persian Gulf powers to have nuclear weapons. That's a "choose your poison" situation which can only be avoided by ending the Iranian nuclear program. And it is manifestly apparent that the only way to achieve a change in Iranian policy on nuclear weapons is to change the regime in Teheran. Ergo why we see Trump doing what he's doing. It's the logical, least-risk choice.

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Actually, this attack is the worst case scenario from a nuclear non proliferation perspective as it will convince many more governments to take the North Korean line: 'we have to have them to guarantee that our government will not be overthrown by the US.'

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Doubtful

Most countries do not have the money or cowed locals to produce such weapons.

For all the focus on nuclear weapons of mass destruction.........

chemical weapons and germ warefare are far cheaper , just as deadly ....and easier to deploy without being tracted back to the user.

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….and it was those Chem/Bio weapons that Iraq built and used against its own people.

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I remember...all too well.

KaiBear said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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I notice people throw out phrases like "regime change" as if they have full knowledge of what that would require, how it would work, and of course whether the actions taken this weekend were part of a regime change or simply offered that possibility if the actual objective of the strikes succeeded.

For those playing at home, there are four reasons for the strike that I heard about from people I consider informed. Wonder how many of them are understood by people on this board?

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Regime change requires boots on the ground.

Period.

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Wrong

Period

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I guess there is the Libya model...

Of course now the country is an open air slave market and major human trafficking lane for people in Africa and the Middle East to invade Europe...