President Trump announces military strikes on Iran: Operation Epic Fury

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Realitybites said:

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This reminds me of the Gulf War in 1990:



Rush Limbaugh had the original audio of this on the radio with "Bomb Iraq." Just the other day I was thinking it should be revived and someone did!

Nothing about this is like the Gulf War. Iran as a nation state has already hit back harder than Iraq did. Iran is an actual country, with 4x the population and 6x the land mass of Iraq. It's not just lines on a map drawn up by the British in the 1900s.

So if this fails to effect "regime change", what next?

we should probably give it at least 48 hours before declaring failure...

If we're going to war, we probably should think it out a little beyond 48 hours.

Not to worry. It is in fact a 96-hour plan.

Well, we will see. Venezuela may have given Donald a false sense of security. We will see what the follow up moves are. Not Donald's strength. Hope someone thought this out beyond the sound bites. What are the mission objectives? When do they know what success is or isn't? Not hearing much on that.

Not criticism, just discussion now that the initial stage is over.

No worries, I can take criticism. The objective was the collapse of the Iranian state. There's no sign of it happening.

Operation Epic Fail.


You may need to adjust your expectations for the timing. That one, 30 minute operation in Venezuela has skewed your grasp of reality.

Apparently I'm not alone. Ynet is reporting that we've already asked for a ceasefire. Iran has rejected it.

https://www.ynetnews.com/opinions-analysis/article/hylyslbfzx#google_vignette


Offering is not asking counselor

When you're less than halfway through your shock and awe campaign, it kind of is. Even I didn't see that one coming.
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Mothra
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Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

As a Christian, you must affirm that any worship outside of Christ is demonic worship. Period.

They've built 48 mosques in Texas in just the last two years. Think about what we're surrounded by




Nonsense. Jews and Muslims are not devil worshipers.

Anything that is not of Christ, and leads men astray, is the work of Satan. I think the vast majority of Christians understand that (or should).

Are you trying to tell me that Jews worship Satan?

Depends on what you mean by devil worshippers. Has Satan led them astray to the point that they are worshipping something other than God? Indeed. Is that Satanic? Yes, it is.

Demonic forces are at work in this world, leading men astray. We know this from the NT.

Tell me, do you believe that Jews and Muslims are worshipping the same God as Christians? If no, what is it they are worshipping?
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boognish_bear said:



I think the question is, do we allow him to stay in power? Or do we keep degrading Iran's military to the point that an uprising can occur, and overthrow the mullahs? That seems to be the end game, according to the reports I;ve read. We are targeting their military infrastructure.
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Mothra said:

boognish_bear said:



I think the question is, do we allow him to stay in power? Or do we keep degrading Iran's military to the point that an uprising can occur, and overthrow the mullahs? That seems to be the end game, according to the reports I;ve read. We are targeting their military infrastructure.


Has anyone in the cabinet said that is the plan here?
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Mothra said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

As a Christian, you must affirm that any worship outside of Christ is demonic worship. Period.

They've built 48 mosques in Texas in just the last two years. Think about what we're surrounded by




Nonsense. Jews and Muslims are not devil worshipers.



demonic
/dmnik/
adjective
of, resembling, or characteristic of demons or evil spirits.

So think "of the devil" not "the devil"

You're an attorney and are supposed to be smart enough to figure that out.

But not a Christian, and therefore lacks the requisite discernment.

Just to clarify...because I'm Catholic and I don't think Jews worship the devil, I'm not a Christian?
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Mothra said:

boognish_bear said:



I think the question is, do we allow him to stay in power? Or do we keep degrading Iran's military to the point that an uprising can occur, and overthrow the mullahs? That seems to be the end game, according to the reports I;ve read. We are targeting their military infrastructure.



... and elementary schools.
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Mothra said:

boognish_bear said:



I think the question is, do we allow him to stay in power? Or do we keep degrading Iran's military to the point that an uprising can occur, and overthrow the mullahs? That seems to be the end game, according to the reports I;ve read. We are targeting their military infrastructure.

Oddly enough, we seem to be focusing on civilian infrastructure. Some are saying that's a mistake.
Sam Lowry
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Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

As a Christian, you must affirm that any worship outside of Christ is demonic worship. Period.

They've built 48 mosques in Texas in just the last two years. Think about what we're surrounded by




Nonsense. Jews and Muslims are not devil worshipers.

Anything that is not of Christ, and leads men astray, is the work of Satan. I think the vast majority of Christians understand that (or should).

Are you trying to tell me that Jews worship Satan?

Depends on what you mean by devil worshippers. Has Satan led them astray to the point that they are worshipping something other than God? Indeed. Is that Satanic? Yes, it is.

Demonic forces are at work in this world, leading men astray. We know this from the NT.

Tell me, do you believe that Jews and Muslims are worshipping the same God as Christians? If no, what is it they are worshipping?

I've always said Christian Zionism and antisemitism went hand in hand. I wasn't necessarily relying on you to support me with expert testimony, but...thanks. Wow.
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KaiBear said:

Doc Holliday said:

As a Christian, you must affirm that any worship outside of Christ is demonic worship. Period.

They've built 48 mosques in Texas in just the last two years. Think about what we're surrounded by




My friend...Muslims do not worship the devil.

They merely believe they are entitled to kill all non Muslims and rape their women.

They think they are worshipping Allah, but they are actually worshipping Satan.

The Muslim Allah is 100% NOT the one true God who created the earth and sent His son to die on the cross.
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boognish_bear said:

Mothra said:

boognish_bear said:



I think the question is, do we allow him to stay in power? Or do we keep degrading Iran's military to the point that an uprising can occur, and overthrow the mullahs? That seems to be the end game, according to the reports I;ve read. We are targeting their military infrastructure.


Has anyone in the cabinet said that is the plan here?

No, and I agree, that is a problem. I am referencing reports I read on the BBC.
Mothra
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Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

As a Christian, you must affirm that any worship outside of Christ is demonic worship. Period.

They've built 48 mosques in Texas in just the last two years. Think about what we're surrounded by




Nonsense. Jews and Muslims are not devil worshipers.



demonic
/dmnik/
adjective
of, resembling, or characteristic of demons or evil spirits.

So think "of the devil" not "the devil"

You're an attorney and are supposed to be smart enough to figure that out.

But not a Christian, and therefore lacks the requisite discernment.

Just to clarify...because I'm Catholic and I don't think Jews worship the devil, I'm not a Christian?

No. We've been over this. You don't believe in the Good News.
Mothra
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The_barBEARian said:

Mothra said:

boognish_bear said:



I think the question is, do we allow him to stay in power? Or do we keep degrading Iran's military to the point that an uprising can occur, and overthrow the mullahs? That seems to be the end game, according to the reports I;ve read. We are targeting their military infrastructure.



... and elementary schools.

Seen no reports we are targeting elementary schools.
Mothra
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Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

boognish_bear said:



I think the question is, do we allow him to stay in power? Or do we keep degrading Iran's military to the point that an uprising can occur, and overthrow the mullahs? That seems to be the end game, according to the reports I;ve read. We are targeting their military infrastructure.

Oddly enough, we seem to be focusing on civilian infrastructure. Some are saying that's a mistake.

Not according to the reports I've read.
Mothra
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Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

As a Christian, you must affirm that any worship outside of Christ is demonic worship. Period.

They've built 48 mosques in Texas in just the last two years. Think about what we're surrounded by




Nonsense. Jews and Muslims are not devil worshipers.

Anything that is not of Christ, and leads men astray, is the work of Satan. I think the vast majority of Christians understand that (or should).

Are you trying to tell me that Jews worship Satan?

Depends on what you mean by devil worshippers. Has Satan led them astray to the point that they are worshipping something other than God? Indeed. Is that Satanic? Yes, it is.

Demonic forces are at work in this world, leading men astray. We know this from the NT.

Tell me, do you believe that Jews and Muslims are worshipping the same God as Christians? If no, what is it they are worshipping?

I've always said Christian Zionism and antisemitism went hand in hand. I wasn't necessarily relying on you to support me with expert testimony, but...thanks. Wow.

Like I said above, I wouldn't expect a non-Christian to understand.
Sam Lowry
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Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

As a Christian, you must affirm that any worship outside of Christ is demonic worship. Period.

They've built 48 mosques in Texas in just the last two years. Think about what we're surrounded by




Nonsense. Jews and Muslims are not devil worshipers.



demonic
/dmnik/
adjective
of, resembling, or characteristic of demons or evil spirits.

So think "of the devil" not "the devil"

You're an attorney and are supposed to be smart enough to figure that out.

But not a Christian, and therefore lacks the requisite discernment.

Just to clarify...because I'm Catholic and I don't think Jews worship the devil, I'm not a Christian?

No. We've been over this. You don't believe in the Good News.

What is the Good News, in your opinion?
Sam Lowry
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Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

As a Christian, you must affirm that any worship outside of Christ is demonic worship. Period.

They've built 48 mosques in Texas in just the last two years. Think about what we're surrounded by




Nonsense. Jews and Muslims are not devil worshipers.

Anything that is not of Christ, and leads men astray, is the work of Satan. I think the vast majority of Christians understand that (or should).

Are you trying to tell me that Jews worship Satan?

Tell me, do you believe that Jews and Muslims are worshipping the same God as Christians? If no, what is it they are worshipping?

Yes. For the record, what do you believe Jews are worshiping?
Mothra
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Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

As a Christian, you must affirm that any worship outside of Christ is demonic worship. Period.

They've built 48 mosques in Texas in just the last two years. Think about what we're surrounded by




Nonsense. Jews and Muslims are not devil worshipers.

Anything that is not of Christ, and leads men astray, is the work of Satan. I think the vast majority of Christians understand that (or should).

Are you trying to tell me that Jews worship Satan?

Tell me, do you believe that Jews and Muslims are worshipping the same God as Christians? If no, what is it they are worshipping?

Yes.

And since you believe that Muslims and Jews likewise worship the triune God of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, do you believe they are saved?
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Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

As a Christian, you must affirm that any worship outside of Christ is demonic worship. Period.

They've built 48 mosques in Texas in just the last two years. Think about what we're surrounded by




Nonsense. Jews and Muslims are not devil worshipers.

Anything that is not of Christ, and leads men astray, is the work of Satan. I think the vast majority of Christians understand that (or should).

Are you trying to tell me that Jews worship Satan?

Depends on what you mean by devil worshippers. Has Satan led them astray to the point that they are worshipping something other than God? Indeed. Is that Satanic? Yes, it is.

Demonic forces are at work in this world, leading men astray. We know this from the NT.

Tell me, do you believe that Jews and Muslims are worshipping the same God as Christians? If no, what is it they are worshipping?

Pretty sure we have an entire old testament full of stories of Jews worshiping other gods.

Pretty sure a lot of Jews are involved with the very demonic side of the entertainment industry. As well as Epstein, etc.

As far as Muslims go: Galatians 1:8-9

8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God's curse! 9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God's curse!
Sam Lowry
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Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

As a Christian, you must affirm that any worship outside of Christ is demonic worship. Period.

They've built 48 mosques in Texas in just the last two years. Think about what we're surrounded by




Nonsense. Jews and Muslims are not devil worshipers.

Anything that is not of Christ, and leads men astray, is the work of Satan. I think the vast majority of Christians understand that (or should).

Are you trying to tell me that Jews worship Satan?

Tell me, do you believe that Jews and Muslims are worshipping the same God as Christians? If no, what is it they are worshipping?

Yes.

And since you believe that Muslims and Jews likewise worship the triune God of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, do you believe they are saved?

I didn't say that, and you didn't answer my question.
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The Chabadi cultists like Jared Kushner worship this guy:

Realitybites
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Sam Lowry said:


Are you trying to tell me that Jews worship Satan?


What part of "synagogue of satan" is unclear?
Mothra
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Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

As a Christian, you must affirm that any worship outside of Christ is demonic worship. Period.

They've built 48 mosques in Texas in just the last two years. Think about what we're surrounded by




Nonsense. Jews and Muslims are not devil worshipers.

Anything that is not of Christ, and leads men astray, is the work of Satan. I think the vast majority of Christians understand that (or should).

Are you trying to tell me that Jews worship Satan?

Tell me, do you believe that Jews and Muslims are worshipping the same God as Christians? If no, what is it they are worshipping?

Yes.

And since you believe that Muslims and Jews likewise worship the triune God of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, do you believe they are saved?

I didn't say that, and you didn't answer my question.

I asked you whether Jews and Muslims worship the same God as Christians, and your response was "Yes."

That being the case, what God do you believe Christians worship? I am not Catholic, but it's my understanding that even the Catholics believe (or purport to believe) in a triune God. Is that not what you believe?

As for the Jews and Muslims, they aren't worshipping God at all. There is only one God, and it is the triune God of the NT. If you don't believe in that God, then you are worshipping something else entirely. What it is, I am not sure. Maybe just a figment of their imagination. But whatever it is, it is indeed of the devil.

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boognish_bear said:




When they say "pro Iran" protesters, do they mean pro regime or pro citizens?
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Sam Lowry
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Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

As a Christian, you must affirm that any worship outside of Christ is demonic worship. Period.

They've built 48 mosques in Texas in just the last two years. Think about what we're surrounded by




Nonsense. Jews and Muslims are not devil worshipers.

Anything that is not of Christ, and leads men astray, is the work of Satan. I think the vast majority of Christians understand that (or should).

Are you trying to tell me that Jews worship Satan?

Tell me, do you believe that Jews and Muslims are worshipping the same God as Christians? If no, what is it they are worshipping?

Yes.

And since you believe that Muslims and Jews likewise worship the triune God of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, do you believe they are saved?

I didn't say that, and you didn't answer my question.

I asked you whether Jews and Muslims worship the same God as Christians, and your response was "Yes."

That being the case, what God do you believe Christians worship? I am not Catholic, but it's my understanding that even the Catholics believe (or purport to believe) in a triune God. Is that not what you believe?

As for the Jews and Muslims, they aren't worshipping God at all. There is only one God, and it is the triune God of the NT. If you don't believe in that God, then you are worshipping something else entirely. What it is, I am not sure. Maybe just a figment of their imagination. But whatever it is, it is indeed of the devil.



Jews, Muslims, and Christians worship the God of Abraham, but only Christians understand his triune nature.

I'm still curious what you think is the Good News and why Catholics don't believe it.
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