President Trump announces military strikes on Iran: Operation Epic Fury

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Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

boognish_bear said:



I think the question is, do we allow him to stay in power? Or do we keep degrading Iran's military to the point that an uprising can occur, and overthrow the mullahs? That seems to be the end game, according to the reports I;ve read. We are targeting their military infrastructure.

Oddly enough, we seem to be focusing on civilian infrastructure. Some are saying that's a mistake.

Not according to the reports I've read.


Really winning a lot of hearts and minds with all these freedom bombs...

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boognish_bear said:




The federal income tax in this country should be at the very most a flat tax of 5-10%.

We are the most cucked population on the planet with the most corrupt government and politicians.

In the Gulf Arab states, their citizens dont even pay taxes.
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I'm hearing Cuba is next.
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Three of our F-15E Strike Eagles shot down in what is being called "a complex battle space that included attacks by Iranian Aircraft, drones, and ballistic missiles" but is being blamed on "Kuwaiti friendly fire."

Interesting that the Iranian Air Force would be conducting offensive operations in Kuwaiti airspace on Day 3. I mean, we've been told that the IDF has already established air supremacy over Iran and all.

Fortunately the pilots bailed out safely.

"In October 2023, the Pentagon reported that the F-15EX is to have a flyaway cost of $94 million per fighter."
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The_barBEARian said:

Mothra said:

boognish_bear said:



I think the question is, do we allow him to stay in power? Or do we keep degrading Iran's military to the point that an uprising can occur, and overthrow the mullahs? That seems to be the end game, according to the reports I;ve read. We are targeting their military infrastructure.



... and elementary schools.
except we didnt do it, Iran has admitted it was theirs, not ours
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The_barBEARian said:




Unfortunately, Pakistan is largely controlled by Islamist. They're a little more palatable than the Taliban type, but there is llamas nonetheless.
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The_barBEARian said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

boognish_bear said:



I think the question is, do we allow him to stay in power? Or do we keep degrading Iran's military to the point that an uprising can occur, and overthrow the mullahs? That seems to be the end game, according to the reports I;ve read. We are targeting their military infrastructure.

Oddly enough, we seem to be focusing on civilian infrastructure. Some are saying that's a mistake.

Not according to the reports I've read.


Really winning a lot of hearts and minds with all these freedom bombs...




That's not good if true, but that's a far cry from proving that the US is targeting civilians or civilian infrastructure as you and Sam claimed.
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Realitybites said:

Three of our F-15E Strike Eagles shot down in what is being called "a complex battle space that included attacks by Iranian Aircraft, drones, and ballistic missiles" but is being blamed on "Kuwaiti friendly fire."

Interesting that the Iranian Air Force would be conducting offensive operations in Kuwaiti airspace on Day 3. I mean, we've been told that the IDF has already established air supremacy over Iran and all.

Fortunately the pilots bailed out safely.

"In October 2023, the Pentagon reported that the F-15EX is to have a flyaway cost of $94 million per fighter."


Interesting. Link?
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https://www.centcom.mil/MEDIA/PRESS-RELEASES/Press-Release-View/Article/4418568/three-us-f-15s-involved-in-friendly-fire-incident-in-kuwait-pilots-safe/

Glad the pilots are safe, but the past decade or so has made it quite clear that .gov will lie to advance a narrative. Whether it is Bondi/Patel/Bongino lying about Epstein, the previous administration lying about 2020 and Covid, or the Army trying to cover up Pat Tillman's friendly fire death as well as numerous other things I do wonder if this actually was friendly fire.

Centcom has every incentive to call this friendly fire if the Iranians - particularly if Iranian pilots - were responsible.
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boognish_bear said:




The more Graham talks…….the more I want his security detail removed.
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Realitybites said:

https://www.centcom.mil/MEDIA/PRESS-RELEASES/Press-Release-View/Article/4418568/three-us-f-15s-involved-in-friendly-fire-incident-in-kuwait-pilots-safe/

Glad the pilots are safe, but the past decade or so has made it quite clear that .gov will lie to advance a narrative. Whether it is Bondi/Patel/Bongino lying about Epstein, the previous administration lying about 2020 and Covid, or the Army trying to cover up Pat Tillman's friendly fire death as well as numerous other things I do wonder if this actually was friendly fire.

Centcom has every incentive to call this friendly fire if the Iranians - particularly if Iranian pilots - were responsible.


Thanks. I don't disagree. And this sounds very suspicious. Could've been a rogue, air defense operator.
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No real point in micro analyzing every death from this point on.
The 'wins' and 'losses' are going to pile up too quickly.

However Israel has acquired exactly what they wanted.

A full on , major war with Iran …..with total access and cooperation of the US military.

Decades of widespread Zionist bribery of US government officials has paid off for them in an unprecedented way.

And it's the American people who are going to pay for the war both financially and in blood.

Sickening.
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Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

As a Christian, you must affirm that any worship outside of Christ is demonic worship. Period.

They've built 48 mosques in Texas in just the last two years. Think about what we're surrounded by




Nonsense. Jews and Muslims are not devil worshipers.

Anything that is not of Christ, and leads men astray, is the work of Satan. I think the vast majority of Christians understand that (or should).

Are you trying to tell me that Jews worship Satan?

Tell me, do you believe that Jews and Muslims are worshipping the same God as Christians? If no, what is it they are worshipping?

Yes. For the record, what do you believe Jews are worshiping?

It's really not that hard to understand if you actually read the Bible.

Jesus was a Jew. He participated in all the rituals, feasts, and laws given to the jews under the mosaic covenant. If Jesus had not done this, He would have committed a sin and could not have been the perfect sacrifice for the salvation of all.

The Jews of today have rejected the Messiah, but still worship the one true God by attempting to follow the mosaic covenant.

The Jews actually had a covenant and a relationship with God, but they rejected His plan of salvation.

The Muslims NEVER had any covenant or communication with the one true God. Their entire religion is demonic and has always been Satanic. They claim that they worship God, but in reality they never have. God had nothing to do with the horrible crap that Mohammad told his followers to believe. Just read the Quran stories about Abraham. They are filled with lies. God had nothing to do with creating Islam. It was created by the Father of Lies.

So there is a very distinct difference between Islam and Judaism. One has always been from Satan, while the other came directly from God, but then rejected the Messiah.
To say there is no difference is to say that Jesus participated in blasphemy, or to say that the Quran is the Word of God just like Genesis.

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Realitybites said:

Three of our F-15E Strike Eagles shot down in what is being called "a complex battle space that included attacks by Iranian Aircraft, drones, and ballistic missiles" but is being blamed on "Kuwaiti friendly fire."

Interesting that the Iranian Air Force would be conducting offensive operations in Kuwaiti airspace on Day 3. I mean, we've been told that the IDF has already established air supremacy over Iran and all.

Fortunately the pilots bailed out safely.

"In October 2023, the Pentagon reported that the F-15EX is to have a flyaway cost of $94 million per fighter."

Thank you Kuwait........

Sheesh.......

- UF

D!
pro ecclesia, pro javelina
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Quote:

To say there is no difference is to say that Jesus participated in blasphemy, or to say that the Quran is the Word of God just like Genesis.


Probably should move this to the how to get to heaven thread to keep from derailing the war thread.
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Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

As a Christian, you must affirm that any worship outside of Christ is demonic worship. Period.

They've built 48 mosques in Texas in just the last two years. Think about what we're surrounded by




Nonsense. Jews and Muslims are not devil worshipers.

Anything that is not of Christ, and leads men astray, is the work of Satan. I think the vast majority of Christians understand that (or should).

Are you trying to tell me that Jews worship Satan?

Tell me, do you believe that Jews and Muslims are worshipping the same God as Christians? If no, what is it they are worshipping?

Yes.

And since you believe that Muslims and Jews likewise worship the triune God of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, do you believe they are saved?

I didn't say that, and you didn't answer my question.

I asked you whether Jews and Muslims worship the same God as Christians, and your response was "Yes."

That being the case, what God do you believe Christians worship? I am not Catholic, but it's my understanding that even the Catholics believe (or purport to believe) in a triune God. Is that not what you believe?

As for the Jews and Muslims, they aren't worshipping God at all. There is only one God, and it is the triune God of the NT. If you don't believe in that God, then you are worshipping something else entirely. What it is, I am not sure. Maybe just a figment of their imagination. But whatever it is, it is indeed of the devil.



Jews, Muslims, and Christians worship the God of Abraham, but only Christians understand his triune nature.

I'm still curious what you think is the Good News and why Catholics don't believe it.

No, it's not God's nature Jews and Muslims get wrong, but God himself. They don't worship the true God of the universe.

As for Catholics, they don't believe salvation is a free gift, but instead they believe in a works-based faith. I've encountered Catholics who I believe are Christian, and although misguided on some issues, get the important points right. You are not one of them, based on many of your comments on this board, as well as the issues you support.
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Have to wonder if this reaches the 2-3 week mark, if the Chinese use this opportunity to take Taiwan.
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Realitybites said:

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To say there is no difference is to say that Jesus participated in blasphemy, or to say that the Quran is the Word of God just like Genesis.


Probably should move this to the how to get to heaven thread to keep from derailing the war thread.


I'm going to take the unpopular opinion that I'm glad we all have to go to war and give 50% of our income to Israel because Shooter believes in a magic book and sky god...
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KaiBear said:

No real point in micro analyzing every death from this point on.
The 'wins' and 'losses' are going to pile up too quickly.

However Israel has acquired exactly what they wanted.

A full on , major war with Iran …..with total access and cooperation of the US military.

Decades of widespread Zionist bribery of US government officials has paid off for them in an unprecedented way.

And it's the American people who are going to pay for the war both financially and in blood.

Sickening.

I disagree that this is entirely because America is controlled by Israel.

The fact that these strikes benefit Israel is just a side note. America has been in a state of war with Iran since 1979, but most people have tried to ignore it. Iran had been killing Americans for decades through their proxies. They have been trying to get nukes, which is a horrible nightmare scenario. These strikes are long overdue.

I will agree that a boots on the ground war, is unacceptable. At this time we are not gearing up to attempt a ground invasion, so it doesn't seem like a justifiable assumption.

If anyone promotes that idea, i will stand in opposition to it. For now, I stand in full support of air strikes & missile strikes that destroy the leadership, the military, and every piece of their nuclear program.

Assuming that we are sending divisions of ground troops is on over reach. Don't let your fears run rampant.
It's far more likely that Trump will destroy their leaders & infrastructure and then let chaos reign in Iran. Chaos without nukes or a military is far better than Muslim extremists with nukes & missiles.

I've yet to see a single person who is calling for a ground invasion of Iran. Have you seen it? Please post a link if you can find it so we can all respond to that fool with common sense.
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Markets open. Dow down 500 ish, long term treasuries selling off, gold at 5338, oil at 72.25.
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Realitybites said:

Have to wonder if this reaches the 2-3 week mark, if the Chinese use this opportunity to take Taiwan.

I agree with you.

At the very least, there is a lot of evaluation going on about capabilities.
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The_barBEARian said:

Realitybites said:

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To say there is no difference is to say that Jesus participated in blasphemy, or to say that the Quran is the Word of God just like Genesis.


Probably should move this to the how to get to heaven thread to keep from derailing the war thread.


I'm going to take the unpopular opinion that I'm glad we all have to go to war and give 50% of our income to Israel because Shooter believes in a magic book and sky god...

So you are a godless fool... no surprise there.
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ShooterTX said:

KaiBear said:

No real point in micro analyzing every death from this point on.
The 'wins' and 'losses' are going to pile up too quickly.

However Israel has acquired exactly what they wanted.

A full on , major war with Iran …..with total access and cooperation of the US military.

Decades of widespread Zionist bribery of US government officials has paid off for them in an unprecedented way.

And it's the American people who are going to pay for the war both financially and in blood.

Sickening.

I disagree that this is entirely because America is controlled by Israel.

The fact that these strikes benefit Israel is just a side note. America has been in a state of war with Iran since 1979, but most people have tried to ignore it. Iran had been killing Americans for decades through their proxies. They have been trying to get nukes, which is a horrible nightmare scenario. These strikes are long overdue.

I will agree that a boots on the ground war, is unacceptable. At this time we are not gearing up to attempt a ground invasion, so it doesn't seem like a justifiable assumption.

If anyone promotes that idea, i will stand in opposition to it. For now, I stand in full support of air strikes & missile strikes that destroy the leadership, the military, and every piece of their nuclear program.

Assuming that we are sending divisions of ground troops is on over reach. Don't let your fears run rampant.
It's far more likely that Trump will destroy their leaders & infrastructure and then let chaos reign in Iran. Chaos without nukes or a military is far better than Muslim extremists with nukes & missiles.

I've yet to see a single person who is calling for a ground invasion of Iran. Have you seen it? Please post a link if you can find it so we can all respond to that fool with common sense.

If we were going to go down that road, look at the Gaza Redevelopment as playing into this decision to go now. But, will not hear the end of it if I go there.

Nobody is investing in that area as it stands now. Only way it becomes the profitable, Middle East Riviera is without Iran paying for the Hamas, Hezbellah, and the others. Iran has to go for the Gaza Multi Billion Dollar project has a shot. Israel used the one thing that Trump loves best in the world, a real estate development.

Look at the timing, when did the Board of Peace meet? Who was at that meeting? What was the outcome? When did we finally say enough is enough?

But, that is the cynical conspiracy theory view... Funny how you can put all sorts of things together if you want. I am sure this is above board.
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The_barBEARian said:

Realitybites said:

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To say there is no difference is to say that Jesus participated in blasphemy, or to say that the Quran is the Word of God just like Genesis.


Probably should move this to the how to get to heaven thread to keep from derailing the war thread.


I'm going to take the unpopular opinion that I'm glad we all have to go to war and give 50% of our income to Israel because Shooter believes in a magic book and sky god...
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FLBear5630 said:

Realitybites said:

Have to wonder if this reaches the 2-3 week mark, if the Chinese use this opportunity to take Taiwan.

I agree with you.

At the very least, there is a lot of evaluation going on about capabilities.



Let's hope not. World Wars don't kick off like football games. They start much more organically and over a period of time.
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ShooterTX said:

KaiBear said:

No real point in micro analyzing every death from this point on.
The 'wins' and 'losses' are going to pile up too quickly.

However Israel has acquired exactly what they wanted.

A full on , major war with Iran …..with total access and cooperation of the US military.

Decades of widespread Zionist bribery of US government officials has paid off for them in an unprecedented way.

And it's the American people who are going to pay for the war both financially and in blood.

Sickening.

I disagree that this is entirely because America is controlled by Israel.

The fact that these strikes benefit Israel is just a side note. America has been in a state of war with Iran since 1979, but most people have tried to ignore it. Iran had been killing Americans for decades through their proxies. They have been trying to get nukes, which is a horrible nightmare scenario. These strikes are long overdue.

I will agree that a boots on the ground war, is unacceptable. At this time we are not gearing up to attempt a ground invasion, so it doesn't seem like a justifiable assumption.

If anyone promotes that idea, i will stand in opposition to it. For now, I stand in full support of air strikes & missile strikes that destroy the leadership, the military, and every piece of their nuclear program.

Assuming that we are sending divisions of ground troops is on over reach. Don't let your fears run rampant.
It's far more likely that Trump will destroy their leaders & infrastructure and then let chaos reign in Iran. Chaos without nukes or a military is far better than Muslim extremists with nukes & missiles.

I've yet to see a single person who is calling for a ground invasion of Iran. Have you seen it? Please post a link if you can find it so we can all respond to that fool with common sense.

I respect your opinion.

Just continue to pray for the thousands of young American sailors, marines. airmen and grunts .....most of whom joined the military primarily to learn a skill or acquire money for college.

Few of them excited about the prospect of being burned, crippled or killed on behalf of the Lindsey Graham's of the world.

For what its worth...if the war continues over 45 days,,,,I expect Iran to attempt a ground assault against our closest base. Willing to accept massive loses in the attempt to kill enough US troops to inflame our people and media against the war.
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ShooterTX said:

The_barBEARian said:

Realitybites said:

Quote:

To say there is no difference is to say that Jesus participated in blasphemy, or to say that the Quran is the Word of God just like Genesis.


Probably should move this to the how to get to heaven thread to keep from derailing the war thread.


I'm going to take the unpopular opinion that I'm glad we all have to go to war and give 50% of our income to Israel because Shooter believes in a magic book and sky god...

So you are a godless fool... no surprise there.


Thats right... a godless fool subjected to the wars of superstitious neanderthals like yourself.

Have you burned any witches or thrown anyone in a river to determine their guilt today?
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KaiBear said:

ShooterTX said:

KaiBear said:

No real point in micro analyzing every death from this point on.
The 'wins' and 'losses' are going to pile up too quickly.

However Israel has acquired exactly what they wanted.

A full on , major war with Iran …..with total access and cooperation of the US military.

Decades of widespread Zionist bribery of US government officials has paid off for them in an unprecedented way.

And it's the American people who are going to pay for the war both financially and in blood.

Sickening.

I disagree that this is entirely because America is controlled by Israel.

The fact that these strikes benefit Israel is just a side note. America has been in a state of war with Iran since 1979, but most people have tried to ignore it. Iran had been killing Americans for decades through their proxies. They have been trying to get nukes, which is a horrible nightmare scenario. These strikes are long overdue.

I will agree that a boots on the ground war, is unacceptable. At this time we are not gearing up to attempt a ground invasion, so it doesn't seem like a justifiable assumption.

If anyone promotes that idea, i will stand in opposition to it. For now, I stand in full support of air strikes & missile strikes that destroy the leadership, the military, and every piece of their nuclear program.

Assuming that we are sending divisions of ground troops is on over reach. Don't let your fears run rampant.
It's far more likely that Trump will destroy their leaders & infrastructure and then let chaos reign in Iran. Chaos without nukes or a military is far better than Muslim extremists with nukes & missiles.

I've yet to see a single person who is calling for a ground invasion of Iran. Have you seen it? Please post a link if you can find it so we can all respond to that fool with common sense.

I respect your opinion.

Just continue to pray for the thousands of young American sailors, marines. airmen and grunts .....most of whom joined the military primarily to learn a skill or acquire money for college.

Few of them excited about the prospect of being burned, crippled or killed on behalf of the Lindsey Graham's of the world.

For what its worth...if the war continues over 45 days,,,,I expect Iran to attempt a ground assault against our closest base. Willing to accept massive loses in the attempt to kill enough US troops to inflame our people and media against the war.

Yes. I am praying for all our military and all citizens in the Middle East region. Very few (if any) signed up for battle. None of them signed up to be killed by Muslim terrorists or extremists.

I do think it is unlikely that Iran will attempt a ground assault, for the following reasons:

Most Iranians know that we would be able to detect a large force moving and/or preparing for a large ground assault. Example: the whole world could see that Putin was preparing for a ground invasion of Ukraine. The difference is that Trump won't just say "Don't", and expect that to suffice. He will preemptively destroy all the ground troops with bombs, missiles, drone strikes, etc.
Knowing all of that, I find it hard to believe that the current population of Iran wants to engage in a suicide mission that has almost zero chance of killing a single American soldier.
Drone and missile attacks are more likely.

Likewise, I don't think they will attempt to cross the water to attack our Naval vessels. They would definitely attempt to hit them with missiles, bombs and drones. Most likely they will wait for our ships to go to a port, and then attempt another suicide attack like the USS Cole attack.

Even if there are enough suicidal soldiers in Iran to mount a ground assault, it would be very hard for them to even reach to outer fences of our military bases before we launch all kinds of attacks on their troops. Their best options would be our bases in Kuwait or Iraq. Attempting to cross the water would be totally foolish for them. We can detect and destroy their boats far before they get close to our shores. In the case of Kuwait and Iraq, we have hundreds or even thousands of miles to strike, before they can reach our bases. Considering that some of the primary targets over the next 45 days include their rockets, missiles, drones and artillery... such an Iranian force would need to be within a few miles to launch any kind of attack on our bases.

Their best chance to kill Americans is the way that they are attacking right now. Each day they are loosing more and more drones, aircraft, rocket launchers, etc. Their ability to strike across open land is quickly diminishing. So long as we do not send troops into Iran, I think we will be safe from seeing massive casualties like we saw in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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The_barBEARian said:

ShooterTX said:

The_barBEARian said:

Realitybites said:

Quote:

To say there is no difference is to say that Jesus participated in blasphemy, or to say that the Quran is the Word of God just like Genesis.


Probably should move this to the how to get to heaven thread to keep from derailing the war thread.


I'm going to take the unpopular opinion that I'm glad we all have to go to war and give 50% of our income to Israel because Shooter believes in a magic book and sky god...

So you are a godless fool... no surprise there.


Thats right... a godless fool subjected to the wars of superstitious neanderthals like yourself.

Have you burned any witches or thrown anyone in a river to determine their guilt today?

No wonder your comments are so foolish and ******ed.

Being an atheist requires a level of stupidity & brain rot that makes them incapable of reasonable conversations. You definitely fit that category. Now I understand why you hate all Jews so much... you have no ability to think with logic or reason.

I'm very sad for you, that you have rejected all truth.
 
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