President Trump announces military strikes on Iran: Operation Epic Fury

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Mitch Blood Green
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william said:

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I both know there are going to be screw ups.....losses. Just hope we have the will to use every asset available and destroy Iran's entire military capacity.
















There is no win for us. Iranians have to liberate themselves.

won't be easy - similar to Saddam slaughtering his population for 20+ years....

BUT the Persians aren't the Iraqis.

W/ some situational help - they're likely to succeed.

But it will be a slog.

- UF

D!


The Persians are definitely the most capable to pull of the independence (compared to Afghans or Iraqis) but still, they have to do it and it's easy for me because my life ain't on the line.

Not everyone want liberty or death. Some want Arby's but will accept Jack in the Box.
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EatMoreSalmon said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Mothra said:

The_barBEARian said:

Mothra said:

The_barBEARian said:

boognish_bear said:

Ok...this did make me chuckle




Ladies and Gentlemen, I present the next leader of Iran:




LOL. You really should consider changing your screenname to Johnny One Note.


Trust me... I hope more than anyone for a day we never have to talk about Israel ever again in this country

Indeed, I am sure you would love to see the little country wiped off the map, like a lot of Atheists.


"Those dirty atheists..."

"Atheist hate is a poison..."

"the atttthhheeeiiissssttttssss!!!..."

Did I miss any of your catch phrases?


Do you want the little country wiped off the map? Atheist or not?


I only care about one country.

America.


You sure do gripe a lot about countries you don't care about.


He only cares about one nation.... Israel. He wants to kill all the Jews, but he knows that's impossible while Israel exists.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

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The missiles Iran is using indicate they had been pursuing weapons they already agreed not to pursue until 2023. It is pretty well established they continued developing their missiles while the 2015 agreement was in force. It is also apparent that they are using some targeting that has improved since they last attacked Israel. That would indicate to me they have been getting some outside help. I would bet the US had good intel that something was up there.

I really have no problem attacking a rogue state like Iran with air power. A weaker Iran is a better Iran for stability in an area of strategic and economic importance. Their attacks on Middle East neighbors is certainly supporting that concept.


Iran has every right to defend itself. Did you forget Trump cancelled the 2015 agreement by 2019?

This isn't on them. This is on us. We've been playing amateur hour in foreign policy since 2016. We've shown ourselves to be erratic and unreliable. If it were me, I'd have been pursuing weapons, too.


Obvious they never stopped pursuing before 2019.
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EatMoreSalmon said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

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The missiles Iran is using indicate they had been pursuing weapons they already agreed not to pursue until 2023. It is pretty well established they continued developing their missiles while the 2015 agreement was in force. It is also apparent that they are using some targeting that has improved since they last attacked Israel. That would indicate to me they have been getting some outside help. I would bet the US had good intel that something was up there.

I really have no problem attacking a rogue state like Iran with air power. A weaker Iran is a better Iran for stability in an area of strategic and economic importance. Their attacks on Middle East neighbors is certainly supporting that concept.


Iran has every right to defend itself. Did you forget Trump cancelled the 2015 agreement by 2019?

This isn't on them. This is on us. We've been playing amateur hour in foreign policy since 2016. We've shown ourselves to be erratic and unreliable. If it were me, I'd have been pursuing weapons, too.


Obvious they never stopped pursuing before 2019.

THIS ^^ - they never abided by the "agreement".

- UF

In spite of Brave John Kerry's Hopes and Dreams.

D!
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william
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william said:

Sam Lowry said:

DOD Panics That Iran War Will Use up All ........ "The mood here is intense and paranoid," one person familiar with the situation told The Washington Post Monday.
... will stretch our ability to defend everything that we need to defend," Smith told the Post, describing the American resources as "stretched thin."

https://newrepublic.com/post/207205/pentagon-iran-war-air-defense-supplies

WaPo + New R == TASS

- UF

D!

https://tass.com/

Actually after perusing TASS - my apologies, they are more sane and prudent than the HysteroNazis at the WaPo / New R.

- UF

D!

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william
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China demands immediate reopening of Hormuz Strait as 50% of its oil import faces collapse

This move signals a direct effort by Beijing to leverage its position as the Islamic Republic's primary economic partner.

Following the launch of the U.S.-Israeli operations Lion's Roar and Epic Fury which resulted in the death of Ayatollah Khamenei and senior IRGC leadership shipping through the energy hub has been paralyzed.

Stability in the Hormuz Strait is a matter of national survival for Beijing. In December alone, nearly half of China's crude oil imports passed through this narrow chokepoint. Foreign Ministry spokesperson Mao Ning said that China "strongly urges all parties to immediately cease military actions, avoid escalating tensions, and ensure the safety of navigation."

Beyond public statements, Beijing is reportedly exerting significant "behind-the-scenes" pressure on Tehran:

Sources from Chinese state-owned enterprises indicate that officials are pressuring their Iranian counterparts to ensure that oil and Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG) tankers are not targeted by retaliatory strikes.

Beijing is particularly concerned about Qatari gas, which accounts for 30% of China's LNG supply. Any disruption to these shipments or strikes on Qatari export hubs will cause an immediate energy crisis in China.
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ARbear13
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If this remains a war of airstrikes, with a very limited ground presence, then I think this war is a worthwhile endeavor if we can actually succeed in overthrowing the Iranian regime. They are the world's #1 sponsor of Islamic terrorism by a huge margin, after all.

There are a lot of reports suggesting that the regular Iranian Army isn't taking orders from the IRGC any more.If they turn against the IRGC en masse, then we might see the fall of the Islamic Revolutionary government without a major ground invasion. We pull that off, and it will be the greatest geopolitical success since the fall of the Soviet Union.

If we don't, it becomes another interminable civil war in the Middle East; the difference is that we will leave Iran's neighbors to deal with the fallout instead of dealing with it ourselves. There is no way we try to occupy Iran at any large scale. That is not realistic.
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ruh roh...

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Israeli forces struck an Iranian Supreme Council gathering on Tuesday as the group was meeting to choose a successor to the late Ayatollah Khameni, a senior Israeli official told Fox News.

Fox News' Trey Yingst reported the update on live on Fox on Tuesday morning, saying the move "speaks to the Israeli intelligence about this war."

"They just targeted the meeting in Tehran where what's left of the leadership was gathering to choose a new Supreme Leader," Yingst said.

The U.S. and Israel killed 49 of Iran's most senior leaders in the opening salvo of Operation Epic Fury on Saturday morning, leaving Iran's military fractured and leaderless.
...
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MARCH 3, 2026 16:39

Updated: MARCH 3, 2026 17:45

The IDF targeted a building in which Tehran's 88-member Assembly of Experts was meeting to choose Iran's next supreme leader, Israeli sources told The Jerusalem Post on Tuesday.

Iranian news agencies reported that the building was "flattened" during the Israeli strikes.
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whiterock
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They severely underestimated the capability and resolve of their opponent, in no small part because of the unwillingness of prior admins to act.
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I am generally against war. On one hand, Maduro was a dictator who drove his country into collapse, and Ayatollah Ali Khamenei was simply an evil theocrat. They are now out of powerone is imprisoned and the other is dead. This raises the possibility that democracy could take hold in these countries.

On the other hand, what will happen next when the mission is completed? By the way, what is the mission, as Trump has not articulated one. When will we bring the troops home?
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william said:

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China demands immediate reopening of Hormuz Strait as 50% of its oil import faces collapse

This move signals a direct effort by Beijing to leverage its position as the Islamic Republic's primary economic partner.

Following the launch of the U.S.-Israeli operations Lion's Roar and Epic Fury which resulted in the death of Ayatollah Khamenei and senior IRGC leadership shipping through the energy hub has been paralyzed.

Stability in the Hormuz Strait is a matter of national survival for Beijing. In December alone, nearly half of China's crude oil imports passed through this narrow chokepoint. Foreign Ministry spokesperson Mao Ning said that China "strongly urges all parties to immediately cease military actions, avoid escalating tensions, and ensure the safety of navigation."

Beyond public statements, Beijing is reportedly exerting significant "behind-the-scenes" pressure on Tehran:

Sources from Chinese state-owned enterprises indicate that officials are pressuring their Iranian counterparts to ensure that oil and Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG) tankers are not targeted by retaliatory strikes.

Beijing is particularly concerned about Qatari gas, which accounts for 30% of China's LNG supply. Any disruption to these shipments or strikes on Qatari export hubs will cause an immediate energy crisis in China.
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The Chinese assault on Taiwan has just been defeated.

" In strategy, the longest way round is often the shortest way home."
-Captain Sir Basil Liddel-Hart.


( the indirect approach has its own wiki page….)
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whiterock said:

william said:

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China demands immediate reopening of Hormuz Strait as 50% of its oil import faces collapse

This move signals a direct effo..............

Beijing is particularly concerned about Qatari gas, which accounts for 30% of China's LNG supply. Any disruption to these shipments or strikes on Qatari export hubs will cause an immediate energy crisis in China.
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The Chinese assault on Taiwan has just been defeated.

" In strategy, the longest way round is often the shortest way home."
-Captain Sir Basil Liddel-Hart.


( the indirect approach has its own wiki page….)

pull out a couple of linchpins...........

- UF

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william said:

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China demands immediate reopening of Hormuz Strait as 50% of its oil import faces collapse

This move signals a direct effort by Beijing to leverage its position as the Islamic Republic's primary economic partner.

Following the launch of the U.S.-Israeli operations Lion's Roar and Epic Fury which resulted in the death of Ayatollah Khamenei and senior IRGC leadership shipping through the energy hub has been paralyzed.

Stability in the Hormuz Strait is a matter of national survival for Beijing. In December alone, nearly half of China's crude oil imports passed through this narrow chokepoint. Foreign Ministry spokesperson Mao Ning said that China "strongly urges all parties to immediately cease military actions, avoid escalating tensions, and ensure the safety of navigation."

Beyond public statements, Beijing is reportedly exerting significant "behind-the-scenes" pressure on Tehran:

Sources from Chinese state-owned enterprises indicate that officials are pressuring their Iranian counterparts to ensure that oil and Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG) tankers are not targeted by retaliatory strikes.

Beijing is particularly concerned about Qatari gas, which accounts for 30% of China's LNG supply. Any disruption to these shipments or strikes on Qatari export hubs will cause an immediate energy crisis in China.
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So many have underestimated this president.
His actions in Venezuela and Iran are reversing the damage done by the 3 terms of anti-American Obama.
The "petro-dollar" is being restored. Venezuela oil is coming to America again. Iran is losing its nuclear program and it's regional hegemony. Iran is so isolated that China is now opposing their retaliation efforts. Russia is being economically crippled too. BRIC is being massively weakened. Europe and America are realizing that our Muslim immigrants are a threat.
Basically everything that Obama set in motion is being dismantled.

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ShooterTX said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

The_barBEARian said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

The_barBEARian said:

Mothra said:

The_barBEARian said:

Mothra said:

The_barBEARian said:

boognish_bear said:

Ok...this did make me chuckle




Ladies and Gentlemen, I present the next leader of Iran:




LOL. You really should consider changing your screenname to Johnny One Note.


Trust me... I hope more than anyone for a day we never have to talk about Israel ever again in this country

Indeed, I am sure you would love to see the little country wiped off the map, like a lot of Atheists.


"Those dirty atheists..."

"Atheist hate is a poison..."

"the atttthhheeeiiissssttttssss!!!..."

Did I miss any of your catch phrases?


Do you want the little country wiped off the map? Atheist or not?


I only care about one country.

America.


You sure do gripe a lot about countries you don't care about.


He only cares about one nation.... Israel. He wants to kill all the Jews, but he knows that's impossible while Israel exists.



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KaiBear said:

whiterock said:

KaiBear said:

whiterock said:

Sam Lowry said:

whiterock said:

Sam Lowry said:

boognish_bear said:



I was not expecting to hear this for at least a couple of weeks.

Another hour, another indication of what a complete cluster**** Trump has initiated.

LOL uh, no. Geeze what a doofus you are. In geopolitics, you don't take anything off the table. Never. Ever. Make think you'll nuke 'em for nothing. Don't hit 'em hard. Hit 'em furiously, often, deeply, everywhere.

The cluster**** was the last 47 years of unwillingness to deal with the problem. Even Reagan screwed the pooch.

You make the mistake of thinking the message was directed to Iranians rather than Americans.

And of course you believe Reagan screwed the pooch. He was a realist, not a fanatic. We're about to see what happens when you fanatics have your way.

Reagan totally mis-managed the response to the Marine barracks bombing. Sent a message of weakness to the Mullahs. Trump is the first POTUS to actually poke them back in any meaningful way.

But you live in an alternate reality, so none of that matters.




You are 100% correct about Reagan……it was by far his biggest blunder.

he used the New Jersey to shell targets in Lebanon. Lots of civilian casualties. This was pointed out to me by Lebanese Druze friends who had family injured in the shelling.

Granted, this was before smart bombs. But it was a token belch of anger that harmed others more than it harmed Iran.



My wife is Christian Lebanese; and a far bigger Trump fan than I am.. Doesn't like or trust Israel whatsoever.

But now that we are in this war.....we agree the only option at this point is to win it. Have always hated that kind of mind set; as it results in more dead Americans.

However the stakes are too big to ignore. You and I both know there are going to be screw ups.....losses. Just hope we have the will to use every asset available and destroy Iran's entire military capacity.



I'm right there with your wife on all counts. Our family best friends(basically family) are 100%Lebanese Christian too. I have been to Lebanon several times and have many friends there. Such a wonderful country and wonderful people (I know the Christian elite/types. Breaks my heart to see what has happened there over the years. Muslims are a problem in Beirut as they are pushing out the Christians. I've been down south in Hezballoh country and it's a bit Erie . If fact, this was 4yrs ago or so, but our Lebanese peeps paid off Hezbollah to allow us down there. We got out of the bus and there were 2 dudes in suits with bulges under their suit. Then they opened the luggage compartment and out come 2 German Sheppards. Kinda weird.
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The_barBEARian said:

ShooterTX said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

The_barBEARian said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

The_barBEARian said:

Mothra said:

The_barBEARian said:

Mothra said:

The_barBEARian said:

boognish_bear said:

Ok...this did make me chuckle




Ladies and Gentlemen, I present the next leader of Iran:




LOL. You really should consider changing your screenname to Johnny One Note.


Trust me... I hope more than anyone for a day we never have to talk about Israel ever again in this country

Indeed, I am sure you would love to see the little country wiped off the map, like a lot of Atheists.


"Those dirty atheists..."

"Atheist hate is a poison..."

"the atttthhheeeiiissssttttssss!!!..."

Did I miss any of your catch phrases?


Do you want the little country wiped off the map? Atheist or not?


I only care about one country.

America.


You sure do gripe a lot about countries you don't care about.


He only cares about one nation.... Israel. He wants to kill all the Jews, but he knows that's impossible while Israel exists.





Why did you post a picture of yourself as a response?
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This is good. We now have someone wanting Democratic elections. He has lived in the US since 1978. So, we need this.







Exiled Iranian crown prince on regime collapse after leader killed | Fox News Video
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Mitch Blood Green said:

KaiBear said:

whiterock said:

KaiBear said:

whiterock said:

Sam Lowry said:

whiterock said:

Sam Lowry said:

boognish_bear said:



I was not expecting to hear this for at least a couple of weeks.

Another hour, another indication of what a complete cluster**** Trump has initiated.

LOL uh, no. Geeze what a doofus you are. In geopolitics, you don't take anything off the table. Never. Ever. Make think you'll nuke 'em for nothing. Don't hit 'em hard. Hit 'em furiously, often, deeply, everywhere.

The cluster**** was the last 47 years of unwillingness to deal with the problem. Even Reagan screwed the pooch.

You make the mistake of thinking the message was directed to Iranians rather than Americans.

And of course you believe Reagan screwed the pooch. He was a realist, not a fanatic. We're about to see what happens when you fanatics have your way.

Reagan totally mis-managed the response to the Marine barracks bombing. Sent a message of weakness to the Mullahs. Trump is the first POTUS to actually poke them back in any meaningful way.

But you live in an alternate reality, so none of that matters.




You are 100% correct about Reagan……it was by far his biggest blunder.

he used the New Jersey to shell targets in Lebanon. Lots of civilian casualties. This was pointed out to me by Lebanese Druze friends who had family injured in the shelling.

Granted, this was before smart bombs. But it was a token belch of anger that harmed others more than it harmed Iran.



My wife is Christian Lebanese; and a far bigger Trump fan than I am.. Doesn't like or trust Israel whatsoever.

But now that we are in this war.....we agree the only option at this point is to win it. Have always hated that kind of mind set; as it results in more dead Americans.

However the stakes are too big to ignore. You and I both know there are going to be screw ups.....losses. Just hope we have the will to use every asset available and destroy Iran's entire military capacity.



There is no win for us. Iranians have to liberate themselves.

When you kill the other guy and live to go home......you win.

Everything else is meaningless conversation.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

william said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

KaiBear said:

whiterock said:

KaiBear said:

whiterock said:

Sam Lowry said:

whiterock said:

Sam Lowry said:

boognish_bear said:

I both know there are going to be screw ups.....losses. Just hope we have the will to use every asset available and destroy Iran's entire military capacity.
















There is no win for us. Iranians have to liberate themselves.

won't be easy - similar to Saddam slaughtering his population for 20+ years....

BUT the Persians aren't the Iraqis.

W/ some situational help - they're likely to succeed.

But it will be a slog.

- UF

D!


The Persians are definitely the most capable to pull of the independence (compared to Afghans or Iraqis) but still, they have to do it and it's easy for me because my life ain't on the line.

Not everyone want liberty or death. Some want Arby's but will accept Jack in the Box.


Agree

Iran/ Persia is a real nation with a real history. Thousands of years of national existence in one form or another

Iraq was always a province of various empires since the time of Islam. Low level of identification with Iraqi nationalism (Kurdish identity, Sunni Arab identity, Shiite identity came first)

Afghanistan as well was a border land between empires and almost always a lose collection of warning tribal confederations and tribal alliances. (Pashtuns vs everyone else)

If we were ever going to "nation build" it might be smart to actually work with a real nation to begin with.

I'm sure that saves a lot of work
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The Pentagon has released Operation Epic Fury's objectives; 1- Demilitarization of Iran: destruction of its missile forces, production facilities, and naval fleet 2- Elimination of the terrorist regime 3- Protection of the United States from current and future threats 4- Ensuring that Iran does not possess nuclear weapons
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" The price of crude instantly tumbled on Tuesday after the Trump administration is reportedly considering providing, or assisting in obtaining insurance for oil tankers crossing through the strait of Hormuz. "

Money printer goes brrrrr.

I've been a little surprised at the market's take on energy: "Iran no longer has the naval assets to blockade Hormuz". That was never the relevant question. Nor is insurance. The relevant question is if they have the drones to sink enough shipping traffic to obstruct a 10,000 foot wide shipping channel.
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ShooterTX said:

william said:

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China demands immediate reopening of Hormuz Strait as 50% of its oil import faces collapse

This move signals a direct effort by Beijing to leverage its position as the Islamic Republic's primary economic partner.

Following the launch of the U.S.-Israeli operations Lion's Roar and Epic Fury which resulted in the death of Ayatollah Khamenei and senior IRGC leadership shipping through the energy hub has been paralyzed.

Stability in the Hormuz Strait is a matter of national survival for Beijing. In December alone, nearly half of China's crude oil imports passed through this narrow chokepoint. Foreign Ministry spokesperson Mao Ning said that China "strongly urges all parties to immediately cease military actions, avoid escalating tensions, and ensure the safety of navigation."

Beyond public statements, Beijing is reportedly exerting significant "behind-the-scenes" pressure on Tehran:

Sources from Chinese state-owned enterprises indicate that officials are pressuring their Iranian counterparts to ensure that oil and Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG) tankers are not targeted by retaliatory strikes.

Beijing is particularly concerned about Qatari gas, which accounts for 30% of China's LNG supply. Any disruption to these shipments or strikes on Qatari export hubs will cause an immediate energy crisis in China.
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So many have underestimated this president.
His actions in Venezuela and Iran are reversing the damage done by the 3 terms of anti-American Obama.
The "petro-dollar" is being restored. Venezuela oil is coming to America again. Iran is losing its nuclear program and it's regional hegemony. Iran is so isolated that China is now opposing their retaliation efforts. Russia is being economically crippled too. BRIC is being massively weakened. Europe and America are realizing that our Muslim immigrants are a threat.
Basically everything that Obama set in motion is being dismantled.



not sure if you noticed captain maga, Obama hasn't been POTUS in a long time. This is the Piggy show.
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J.R. said:

ShooterTX said:

william said:

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China demands immediate reopening of Hormuz Strait as 50% of its oil import faces collapse

This move signals a direct effort by Beijing to leverage its position as the Islamic Republic's primary economic partner.

Following the launch of the U.S.-Israeli operations Lion's Roar and Epic Fury which resulted in the death of Ayatollah Khamenei and senior IRGC leadership shipping through the energy hub has been paralyzed.

Stability in the Hormuz Strait is a matter of national survival for Beijing. In December alone, nearly half of China's crude oil imports passed through this narrow chokepoint. Foreign Ministry spokesperson Mao Ning said that China "strongly urges all parties to immediately cease military actions, avoid escalating tensions, and ensure the safety of navigation."

Beyond public statements, Beijing is reportedly exerting significant "behind-the-scenes" pressure on Tehran:

Sources from Chinese state-owned enterprises indicate that officials are pressuring their Iranian counterparts to ensure that oil and Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG) tankers are not targeted by retaliatory strikes.

Beijing is particularly concerned about Qatari gas, which accounts for 30% of China's LNG supply. Any disruption to these shipments or strikes on Qatari export hubs will cause an immediate energy crisis in China.
<<


So many have underestimated this president.
His actions in Venezuela and Iran are reversing the damage done by the 3 terms of anti-American Obama.
The "petro-dollar" is being restored. Venezuela oil is coming to America again. Iran is losing its nuclear program and it's regional hegemony. Iran is so isolated that China is now opposing their retaliation efforts. Russia is being economically crippled too. BRIC is being massively weakened. Europe and America are realizing that our Muslim immigrants are a threat.
Basically everything that Obama set in motion is being dismantled.



not sure if you noticed captain maga, Obama hasn't been POTUS in a long time. This is the Piggy show.

And a fine show it is.

Zero had a chance to do it but punted.


Once again, Trump cleaning up messes your lot let fester for decades.

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There were other operations against Trump, which were attributed to Iran.

Either the USSS was good, the US had better than usual intel, or the guys sent by Iran were not very good.

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whiterock said:

J.R. said:

ShooterTX said:

william said:

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China demands immediate reopening of Hormuz Strait as 50% of its oil import faces collapse

This move signals a direct effort by Beijing to leverage its position as the Islamic Republic's primary economic partner.

Following the launch of the U.S.-Israeli operations Lion's Roar and Epic Fury which resulted in the death of Ayatollah Khamenei and senior IRGC leadership shipping through the energy hub has been paralyzed.

Stability in the Hormuz Strait is a matter of national survival for Beijing. In December alone, nearly half of China's crude oil imports passed through this narrow chokepoint. Foreign Ministry spokesperson Mao Ning said that China "strongly urges all parties to immediately cease military actions, avoid escalating tensions, and ensure the safety of navigation."

Beyond public statements, Beijing is reportedly exerting significant "behind-the-scenes" pressure on Tehran:

Sources from Chinese state-owned enterprises indicate that officials are pressuring their Iranian counterparts to ensure that oil and Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG) tankers are not targeted by retaliatory strikes.

Beijing is particularly concerned about Qatari gas, which accounts for 30% of China's LNG supply. Any disruption to these shipments or strikes on Qatari export hubs will cause an immediate energy crisis in China.
<<


So many have underestimated this president.
His actions in Venezuela and Iran are reversing the damage done by the 3 terms of anti-American Obama.
The "petro-dollar" is being restored. Venezuela oil is coming to America again. Iran is losing its nuclear program and it's regional hegemony. Iran is so isolated that China is now opposing their retaliation efforts. Russia is being economically crippled too. BRIC is being massively weakened. Europe and America are realizing that our Muslim immigrants are a threat.
Basically everything that Obama set in motion is being dismantled.



not sure if you noticed captain maga, Obama hasn't been POTUS in a long time. This is the Piggy show.

And a fine show it is.

Zero had a chance to do it but punted.


Once again, Trump cleaning up messes your lot let fester for decades.



Way to early to spike the football.

This war has only begun.

China might change the entire situation.
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" China might change the entire situation."

Possibly, but Xi's purges in 2025 have degraded the PLA across the board (PLA, PLAN, PLAAF all lost senior leadership and saw projects redirected).

China's best weapon right now in the Middle East is likely financial. Especially with the ongoing takedown of Iran's financial fraud.
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One Day:

Operation Epic Arby's.

- UF

D!

{ finishing Kombucha }

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Oldbear83 said:

There were other operations against Trump, which were attributed to Iran.

Either the USSS was good, the US had better than usual intel, or the guys sent by Iran were not very good.



Or the most logical choice - these operations are fake news propaganda spread by Israel and gobbled up by ******ed Boomers.
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william said:

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China demands immediate reopening of Hormuz Strait as 50% of its oil import faces collapse

This move signals a direct effort by Beijing to leverage its position as the Islamic Republic's primary economic partner.

Following the launch of the U.S.-Israeli operations Lion's Roar and Epic Fury which resulted in the death of Ayatollah Khamenei and senior IRGC leadership shipping through the energy hub has been paralyzed.

Stability in the Hormuz Strait is a matter of national survival for Beijing. In December alone, nearly half of China's crude oil imports passed through this narrow chokepoint. Foreign Ministry spokesperson Mao Ning said that China "strongly urges all parties to immediately cease military actions, avoid escalating tensions, and ensure the safety of navigation."

Beyond public statements, Beijing is reportedly exerting significant "behind-the-scenes" pressure on Tehran:

Sources from Chinese state-owned enterprises indicate that officials are pressuring their Iranian counterparts to ensure that oil and Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG) tankers are not targeted by retaliatory strikes.

Beijing is particularly concerned about Qatari gas, which accounts for 30% of China's LNG supply. Any disruption to these shipments or strikes on Qatari export hubs will cause an immediate energy crisis in China.
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Chinese society might currently be ruled by atheist communists, but they still follow a secular version of the Mandate of Heaven.

In China, the government is considered legitimate if it ensures stability and economic prosperity. If it cannot do so, then the Chinese public suddenly becomes much less tolerant of the CCPs authoritarian tendencies.

The way to hit China where it hurts is to put economic pressure on the population. Keep them too busy suppressing dissent in a country of 1 billion+ people to worry about about invading Taiwan.
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The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

There were other operations against Trump, which were attributed to Iran.

Either the USSS was good, the US had better than usual intel, or the guys sent by Iran were not very good.



Or the most logical choice - these operations are fake news propaganda spread by Israel and gobbled up by ******ed Boomers.

Least logical, and most batcrap, is your guess there, boyo.
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Oldbear83 said:

The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

There were other operations against Trump, which were attributed to Iran.

Either the USSS was good, the US had better than usual intel, or the guys sent by Iran were not very good.



Or the most logical choice - these operations are fake news propaganda spread by Israel and gobbled up by ******ed Boomers.

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Oldbear83 said:

The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

There were other operations against Trump, which were attributed to Iran.

Either the USSS was good, the US had better than usual intel, or the guys sent by Iran were not very good.



Or the most logical choice - these operations are fake news propaganda spread by Israel and gobbled up by ******ed Boomers.

Least logical, and most batcrap, is your guess there, boyo.

That poor kid has let his hatred of the Jews take over to the degree that he believes the Iranian regime propaganda over all Western Civilized nations media, intelligence, independent reporters, etc.

I don't think I've ever seen antisemitism destroy a brain to that level. Amazing and sad at the same time.
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