"The Iranians don’t seem to realize they have no cards..." - President Donald J. Trump pic.twitter.com/6he3qjeN1N

— The White House (@WhiteHouse) April 10, 2026

pic.twitter.com/TesKsL3V0h

— Rapid Response 47 (@RapidResponse47) April 10, 2026

The Fox clip below is an example of the Israeli influenced media echo chamber- President Trump’s policy for Iran has always been “No Nuclear Weapons”, not zero enrichment (see Truth post).

The Israelis want zero enrichment b/c it is nearly impossible to enforce, is a non… pic.twitter.com/2sxXNXwW6c

— Joe Kent (@joekent16jan19) April 10, 2026

Oldbear83 said:

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J.R. said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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I never much believed in all the claims about 'Islamophobia', but this thread definitely is showing a lot of fear of Jews.

Is the rabbi in the room right now?

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Eff Izzy! those bloodthirsty govt officials need to go at this without ANY help from us. Screw that biblical crap. Eff Them. (govt)

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Bet you wouldn't say that after a nice bagel and lox

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not for just a bagel and lox. Must be, no exceptions....Everthing Bagel, Veggie Cream Cheese, lox, red onion, tomato . Now we talking

boognish_bear said:

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"The Iranians don’t seem to realize they have no cards..." - President Donald J. Trump pic.twitter.com/6he3qjeN1N

— The White House (@WhiteHouse) April 10, 2026

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Art of the Deal....lol. Viva la Donnie!

HUGE: J Street now backs blocking all aid to Israel, including for “defensive” weapons like iron dome.

Just weeks ago this was a controversial position for Democrats, now J Street is backing it. A few years ago a Democrat could get censured for holding this position. @AOC… https://t.co/GE6fdJoFx1

— Ryan Grim (@ryangrim) April 11, 2026

Porteroso said:

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boognish_bear said:

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🚨BOMBSHELL: Fox News just exposed the fracture inside Trump’s Iran negotiating team.

Jared Kushner — the man whose fund took $2 billion from Saudi Arabia — secretly offered Iran unlimited uranium enrichment for peaceful use.

JD Vance, currently in the air to Pakistan, is… pic.twitter.com/pXLn8ZvkbJ

— Brian Allen (@allenanalysis) April 10, 2026

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There is no way.

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Zero enrichment is pretty much unenforceable.

And there's no way that a Chabadnik like Kushner is going to offer Iran unlimited enrichment.

FLBear5630 said:

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cowboycwr said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Realitybites said:

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The Price Jump Is Coming: Why You Need to Stock Up on Food & Consumer Goods This Week

"Here is what I need you to understand: this ceasefire does not change anything in the analysis below. The ceasefire may already be dead. But even if it somehow survives, the damage is done:

The diesel that is already at $5.62 a gallon is already on the trucks delivering your food. The fertilizer that wasn't shipped for 40 days isn't arriving this week. The planting decisions that farmers already made shifting away from crops that need nitrogen fertilizer aren't reversing. The 40-day threshold that the United Nations warned would trigger structural crop reductions was crossed yesterday. Oil at $95 is still 43% above pre-war levels. And the physical crude that refineries already purchased at $141 per barrel is already in the pipeline.

The ceasefire announcement will make people think the crisis is over. That is exactly when you should be buying while everyone else relaxes.

If the ceasefire holds, prices come down slowly over months, not days. If it collapses and Iran's Parliament Speaker just called it "unreasonable" prices snap back to $112+ overnight. Either way, the food price increases from the last 40 days of diesel and fertilizer disruption are locked in and arriving at your grocery store in the next two to four weeks.

Read the full analysis below. Then go shopping."

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Just read an interesting article from economists at Moody's, that there is no going back to what we had price-wise on oil. Well, Trump gave Musk what he wanted higher priced gas making EVs popular again. Joe Biden and AOC will be happy.

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I have heard similar analysis before, and it didn't end up that way. Is there a reason that I should expect this time is different?

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I must have missed that analysis. Remind me what happened the last time a regional war decimated Gulf oil production and closed the Strait of Hormuz?

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Oil was supposed to run out.
You don't remember this?

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When was oil supposed to run out?

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Which prediction do you want?

There have been many since oil first even started to be drilled.

There were some in the early 1900s that it would run out by the 1930s.

IN the 1940s there were more predictions.

1960s
1970s
early 2000s
2020
or even within the last year.

Of course each time the date is pushed back. Like right now the "prediction" seems to be on the 2050-2060s that we will not run out but will start producing less as demand drops and this is the only thing that will prevent us from running out completely for a little while longer.

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Yeah, but how are we getting it and where?

Fracking is causing geotechnical problems. We are now being told the Gulf is open. I don't want to see oil derricks off Clearwater Beach. We are now opening Alaska. It is not as simple as the supply is good. There are tradeoffs.

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So you would rather run out then see an oil derrick off shore?

You would rather run out than get it from places that don't impact you?

I'd rather have oil.

I don't mind the oil derricks when I am at the beach. It actually provided interesting views. You can watch the ships that go to them, see their lights or when there are storms coming realize it because the lights can't be seen.

TRUST THE PLAN: Trump Gives Netanyahu His First First Born Son pic.twitter.com/V6Qu2deUA3

— The Babylon Bibi (@TheBabylonBibi) April 10, 2026

To our warfighters and the American people—

THIS IS WHAT WE DID THIS WEEK AT THE WAR DEPARTMENT! pic.twitter.com/vdR8CguF6Y

— DOW Rapid Response (@DOWResponse) April 10, 2026

Realitybites said:

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Porteroso said:

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boognish_bear said:

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🚨BOMBSHELL: Fox News just exposed the fracture inside Trump’s Iran negotiating team.

Jared Kushner — the man whose fund took $2 billion from Saudi Arabia — secretly offered Iran unlimited uranium enrichment for peaceful use.

JD Vance, currently in the air to Pakistan, is… pic.twitter.com/pXLn8ZvkbJ

— Brian Allen (@allenanalysis) April 10, 2026

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There is no way.

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Zero enrichment is pretty much unenforceable.

And there's no way that a Chabadnik like Kushner is going to offer Iran unlimited enrichment.

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I meant there is no way the negotiations are that much of a dhitsow, one of our guys saying the opposite of another. What, are they negotiating through x or something?

Realitybites said:

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cowboycwr said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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cowboycwr said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Realitybites said:

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The Price Jump Is Coming: Why You Need to Stock Up on Food & Consumer Goods This Week

"Here is what I need you to understand: this ceasefire does not change anything in the analysis below. The ceasefire may already be dead. But even if it somehow survives, the damage is done:

The diesel that is already at $5.62 a gallon is already on the trucks delivering your food. The fertilizer that wasn't shipped for 40 days isn't arriving this week. The planting decisions that farmers already made shifting away from crops that need nitrogen fertilizer aren't reversing. The 40-day threshold that the United Nations warned would trigger structural crop reductions was crossed yesterday. Oil at $95 is still 43% above pre-war levels. And the physical crude that refineries already purchased at $141 per barrel is already in the pipeline.

The ceasefire announcement will make people think the crisis is over. That is exactly when you should be buying while everyone else relaxes.

If the ceasefire holds, prices come down slowly over months, not days. If it collapses and Iran's Parliament Speaker just called it "unreasonable" prices snap back to $112+ overnight. Either way, the food price increases from the last 40 days of diesel and fertilizer disruption are locked in and arriving at your grocery store in the next two to four weeks.

Read the full analysis below. Then go shopping."

---

Just read an interesting article from economists at Moody's, that there is no going back to what we had price-wise on oil. Well, Trump gave Musk what he wanted higher priced gas making EVs popular again. Joe Biden and AOC will be happy.

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I have heard similar analysis before, and it didn't end up that way. Is there a reason that I should expect this time is different?

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I must have missed that analysis. Remind me what happened the last time a regional war decimated Gulf oil production and closed the Strait of Hormuz?

---

Oil was supposed to run out.
You don't remember this?

---

When was oil supposed to run out?

---

Which prediction do you want?

There have been many since oil first even started to be drilled.

There were some in the early 1900s that it would run out by the 1930s.

IN the 1940s there were more predictions.

1960s
1970s
early 2000s
2020
or even within the last year.

Of course each time the date is pushed back. Like right now the "prediction" seems to be on the 2050-2060s that we will not run out but will start producing less as demand drops and this is the only thing that will prevent us from running out completely for a little while longer.

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Yeah, but how are we getting it and where?

Fracking is causing geotechnical problems. We are now being told the Gulf is open. I don't want to see oil derricks off Clearwater Beach. We are now opening Alaska. It is not as simple as the supply is good. There are tradeoffs.

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So you would rather run out then see an oil derrick off shore?

You would rather run out than get it from places that don't impact you?

I'd rather have oil.

I don't mind the oil derricks when I am at the beach. It actually provided interesting views. You can watch the ships that go to them, see their lights or when there are storms coming realize it because the lights can't be seen.

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Anyone remember Deepwater Horizon?

The population of Grand Isle, Louisiana is about a thousand people.

The population of the Clearwater-Tampa-Saint Pete is 3.4 million, and any incident is going to see oil entering Tampa Bay through its inlets, not just washing up on the barrier islands.

I don't want to see oil rigs off Clearwater Beach any more than I want to live next to a nuclear reactor.

The real question is what do we do about complete reliance on an energy source, a significant portion of which is halfway around the world under hostile sands.

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Deepwater Horizon impacted Clearwater Beach. The whole area, they found oil in the Keys.

If we have to destroy the world we live in to get oil, don't you think there is something fundamentally wrong with where we are? We are now opening Anwhar and other park areas, drilling the Gulf (DeSantis is dead set against it), fracking to the point of earthquakes and to go with the standard cancer clusters, drinking water contamination and wildlife destruction.

I agree with you that we are dependent and cold turkey is a non-starter. But, a systematic shift to other sources where we can do them is not unreasonable.

But, of course they do make for interesting land scapes at the beach there is that.

FLBear5630 said:

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Realitybites said:

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cowboycwr said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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cowboycwr said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Realitybites said:

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The Price Jump Is Coming: Why You Need to Stock Up on Food & Consumer Goods This Week

"Here is what I need you to understand: this ceasefire does not change anything in the analysis below. The ceasefire may already be dead. But even if it somehow survives, the damage is done:

The diesel that is already at $5.62 a gallon is already on the trucks delivering your food. The fertilizer that wasn't shipped for 40 days isn't arriving this week. The planting decisions that farmers already made shifting away from crops that need nitrogen fertilizer aren't reversing. The 40-day threshold that the United Nations warned would trigger structural crop reductions was crossed yesterday. Oil at $95 is still 43% above pre-war levels. And the physical crude that refineries already purchased at $141 per barrel is already in the pipeline.

The ceasefire announcement will make people think the crisis is over. That is exactly when you should be buying while everyone else relaxes.

If the ceasefire holds, prices come down slowly over months, not days. If it collapses and Iran's Parliament Speaker just called it "unreasonable" prices snap back to $112+ overnight. Either way, the food price increases from the last 40 days of diesel and fertilizer disruption are locked in and arriving at your grocery store in the next two to four weeks.

Read the full analysis below. Then go shopping."

---

Just read an interesting article from economists at Moody's, that there is no going back to what we had price-wise on oil. Well, Trump gave Musk what he wanted higher priced gas making EVs popular again. Joe Biden and AOC will be happy.

---

I have heard similar analysis before, and it didn't end up that way. Is there a reason that I should expect this time is different?

---

I must have missed that analysis. Remind me what happened the last time a regional war decimated Gulf oil production and closed the Strait of Hormuz?

---

Oil was supposed to run out.
You don't remember this?

---

When was oil supposed to run out?

---

Which prediction do you want?

There have been many since oil first even started to be drilled.

There were some in the early 1900s that it would run out by the 1930s.

IN the 1940s there were more predictions.

1960s
1970s
early 2000s
2020
or even within the last year.

Of course each time the date is pushed back. Like right now the "prediction" seems to be on the 2050-2060s that we will not run out but will start producing less as demand drops and this is the only thing that will prevent us from running out completely for a little while longer.

---

Yeah, but how are we getting it and where?

Fracking is causing geotechnical problems. We are now being told the Gulf is open. I don't want to see oil derricks off Clearwater Beach. We are now opening Alaska. It is not as simple as the supply is good. There are tradeoffs.

---

So you would rather run out then see an oil derrick off shore?

You would rather run out than get it from places that don't impact you?

I'd rather have oil.

I don't mind the oil derricks when I am at the beach. It actually provided interesting views. You can watch the ships that go to them, see their lights or when there are storms coming realize it because the lights can't be seen.

---

Anyone remember Deepwater Horizon?

The population of Grand Isle, Louisiana is about a thousand people.

The population of the Clearwater-Tampa-Saint Pete is 3.4 million, and any incident is going to see oil entering Tampa Bay through its inlets, not just washing up on the barrier islands.

I don't want to see oil rigs off Clearwater Beach any more than I want to live next to a nuclear reactor.

The real question is what do we do about complete reliance on an energy source, a significant portion of which is halfway around the world under hostile sands.

---

Deepwater Horizon impacted Clearwater Beach. The whole area, they found oil in the Keys.

If we have to destroy the world we live in to get oil, don't you think there is something fundamentally wrong with where we are? We are now opening Anwhar and other park areas, drilling the Gulf (DeSantis is dead set against it), fracking to the point of earthquakes and to go with the standard cancer clusters, drinking water contamination and wildlife destruction.

I agree with you that we are dependent and cold turkey is a non-starter. But, a systematic shift to other sources where we can do them is not unreasonable.

But, of course they do make for interesting land scapes at the beach there is that.

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Of all available other sources, nuclear is the only feasible one at the moment.

The_barBEARian said:

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Israel 🇮🇱 gives it’s response to a ‘ceasefire’:

•50 🇮🇱 jets dropped 160 bombs in 1 min
•100 Lebanon 🇱🇧 sites bombed in 10 mins
•multiple Lebanon 🇱🇧residential locations
•300 plus people murdered

Israel 🇮🇱 is a pariah state

Expel 🇮🇱 from the UN now.pic.twitter.com/ezxCs5QsEG

— Howard Beckett (@BeckettUnite) April 8, 2026

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Lebanon responded by outlawing Hizballah and entering into negotiations for assistance from Israel to disarm Hizballah.


Huge win against a terror group that has killed hundreds of Americans.

Can you not see how hypocritical it is to be so upset at Israel over a friendly fire incident against us (USS Liberty) yet give refuse to issue a syllable of criticism of a group ((Hizballah) who has killed hundreds of American citizens, on purpose with great malice and forethought, to include capturing a US diplomat and skinning him alive on video tape send to President Reagan?

Seriously, dude. Explain it.

D. C. Bear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Realitybites said:

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cowboycwr said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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cowboycwr said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Realitybites said:

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The Price Jump Is Coming: Why You Need to Stock Up on Food & Consumer Goods This Week

"Here is what I need you to understand: this ceasefire does not change anything in the analysis below. The ceasefire may already be dead. But even if it somehow survives, the damage is done:

The diesel that is already at $5.62 a gallon is already on the trucks delivering your food. The fertilizer that wasn't shipped for 40 days isn't arriving this week. The planting decisions that farmers already made shifting away from crops that need nitrogen fertilizer aren't reversing. The 40-day threshold that the United Nations warned would trigger structural crop reductions was crossed yesterday. Oil at $95 is still 43% above pre-war levels. And the physical crude that refineries already purchased at $141 per barrel is already in the pipeline.

The ceasefire announcement will make people think the crisis is over. That is exactly when you should be buying while everyone else relaxes.

If the ceasefire holds, prices come down slowly over months, not days. If it collapses and Iran's Parliament Speaker just called it "unreasonable" prices snap back to $112+ overnight. Either way, the food price increases from the last 40 days of diesel and fertilizer disruption are locked in and arriving at your grocery store in the next two to four weeks.

Read the full analysis below. Then go shopping."

---

Just read an interesting article from economists at Moody's, that there is no going back to what we had price-wise on oil. Well, Trump gave Musk what he wanted higher priced gas making EVs popular again. Joe Biden and AOC will be happy.

---

I have heard similar analysis before, and it didn't end up that way. Is there a reason that I should expect this time is different?

---

I must have missed that analysis. Remind me what happened the last time a regional war decimated Gulf oil production and closed the Strait of Hormuz?

---

Oil was supposed to run out.
You don't remember this?

---

When was oil supposed to run out?

---

Which prediction do you want?

There have been many since oil first even started to be drilled.

There were some in the early 1900s that it would run out by the 1930s.

IN the 1940s there were more predictions.

1960s
1970s
early 2000s
2020
or even within the last year.

Of course each time the date is pushed back. Like right now the "prediction" seems to be on the 2050-2060s that we will not run out but will start producing less as demand drops and this is the only thing that will prevent us from running out completely for a little while longer.

---

Yeah, but how are we getting it and where?

Fracking is causing geotechnical problems. We are now being told the Gulf is open. I don't want to see oil derricks off Clearwater Beach. We are now opening Alaska. It is not as simple as the supply is good. There are tradeoffs.

---

So you would rather run out then see an oil derrick off shore?

You would rather run out than get it from places that don't impact you?

I'd rather have oil.

I don't mind the oil derricks when I am at the beach. It actually provided interesting views. You can watch the ships that go to them, see their lights or when there are storms coming realize it because the lights can't be seen.

---

Anyone remember Deepwater Horizon?

The population of Grand Isle, Louisiana is about a thousand people.

The population of the Clearwater-Tampa-Saint Pete is 3.4 million, and any incident is going to see oil entering Tampa Bay through its inlets, not just washing up on the barrier islands.

I don't want to see oil rigs off Clearwater Beach any more than I want to live next to a nuclear reactor.

The real question is what do we do about complete reliance on an energy source, a significant portion of which is halfway around the world under hostile sands.

---

Deepwater Horizon impacted Clearwater Beach. The whole area, they found oil in the Keys.

If we have to destroy the world we live in to get oil, don't you think there is something fundamentally wrong with where we are? We are now opening Anwhar and other park areas, drilling the Gulf (DeSantis is dead set against it), fracking to the point of earthquakes and to go with the standard cancer clusters, drinking water contamination and wildlife destruction.

I agree with you that we are dependent and cold turkey is a non-starter. But, a systematic shift to other sources where we can do them is not unreasonable.

But, of course they do make for interesting land scapes at the beach there is that.

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Of all available other sources, nuclear is the only feasible one at the moment.

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I agree, 100%. I do think Fusion is the future of the package plants. My son-in-law works in fusion.

I do think a combined approach is going to work best including wind, tidal and geothermal in certain areas. As well as oil, LNG, and coal. There is not a single answer, only an growing thirst for energy.

The problem I see is that because of the media era we live, highly complex issues and make them simple sound bites. So we end up with attempts at blanket approaches.

Call me a liberal, but I do agree with Teddy Roosevelt we need to protect and save the environment for future generations. Exploiting resources for short term benefit and destruction of irreplaceable assets is stupid and self-destructive.

But the money people won't stay here then, they will go to New Zealand...

whiterock said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Israel 🇮🇱 gives it’s response to a ‘ceasefire’:

•50 🇮🇱 jets dropped 160 bombs in 1 min
•100 Lebanon 🇱🇧 sites bombed in 10 mins
•multiple Lebanon 🇱🇧residential locations
•300 plus people murdered

Israel 🇮🇱 is a pariah state

Expel 🇮🇱 from the UN now.pic.twitter.com/ezxCs5QsEG

— Howard Beckett (@BeckettUnite) April 8, 2026

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Can you not see how hypocritical it is to be so upset at Israel over a friendly fire incident against us (USS Liberty) yet give refuse to issue a syllable of criticism of a group ((Hizballah) who has killed hundreds of American citizens, on purpose with great malice and forethought, to include capturing a US diplomat and skinning him alive on video tape send to President Reagan?

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That never happened, you know.

Fog of War caveat, I wonder if this actually happened.

🚨🇺🇸🚢Several U.S. navy ships crossed the Strait of Hormuz on Saturday, U.S. official says
🚨🇺🇸🚢The move was not coordinated with Iran. It's the first time this happens since the beginning of the war

— Barak Ravid (@BarakRavid) April 11, 2026

Axios:
U.S. warships cross Strait of Hormuz for first time since Iran war began

Several U.S. Navy ships crossed the Strait of Hormuz on Saturday, a U.S. official told Axios.
Why it matters: The move was not coordinated with Iran. It is the first time U.S. warships crossed the strait since the beginning of the war.

Jacques Strap said:

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Fog of War caveat, I wonder if this actually happened.

🚨🇺🇸🚢Several U.S. navy ships crossed the Strait of Hormuz on Saturday, U.S. official says
🚨🇺🇸🚢The move was not coordinated with Iran. It's the first time this happens since the beginning of the war

— Barak Ravid (@BarakRavid) April 11, 2026

Axios:
U.S. warships cross Strait of Hormuz for first time since Iran war began

Several U.S. Navy ships crossed the Strait of Hormuz on Saturday, a U.S. official told Axios.
Why it matters: The move was not coordinated with Iran. It is the first time U.S. warships crossed the strait since the beginning of the war.

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Let's hope it did happen. And let's hope they went through and came back out.

Sam Lowry said:

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whiterock said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Israel 🇮🇱 gives it’s response to a ‘ceasefire’:

•50 🇮🇱 jets dropped 160 bombs in 1 min
•100 Lebanon 🇱🇧 sites bombed in 10 mins
•multiple Lebanon 🇱🇧residential locations
•300 plus people murdered

Israel 🇮🇱 is a pariah state

Expel 🇮🇱 from the UN now.pic.twitter.com/ezxCs5QsEG

— Howard Beckett (@BeckettUnite) April 8, 2026

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Can you not see how hypocritical it is to be so upset at Israel over a friendly fire incident against us (USS Liberty) yet give refuse to issue a syllable of criticism of a group ((Hizballah) who has killed hundreds of American citizens, on purpose with great malice and forethought, to include capturing a US diplomat and skinning him alive on video tape send to President Reagan?

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That never happened, you know.

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What part are you saying did not happen?

EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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whiterock said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Israel 🇮🇱 gives it’s response to a ‘ceasefire’:

•50 🇮🇱 jets dropped 160 bombs in 1 min
•100 Lebanon 🇱🇧 sites bombed in 10 mins
•multiple Lebanon 🇱🇧residential locations
•300 plus people murdered

Israel 🇮🇱 is a pariah state

Expel 🇮🇱 from the UN now.pic.twitter.com/ezxCs5QsEG

— Howard Beckett (@BeckettUnite) April 8, 2026

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Can you not see how hypocritical it is to be so upset at Israel over a friendly fire incident against us (USS Liberty) yet give refuse to issue a syllable of criticism of a group ((Hizballah) who has killed hundreds of American citizens, on purpose with great malice and forethought, to include capturing a US diplomat and skinning him alive on video tape send to President Reagan?

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That never happened, you know.

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What part are you saying did not happen?

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A diplomat being skinned alive on video tape. He was kidnapped and tortured to death, but that particular claim is fiction (and he was a spook, not a diplomat).

Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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whiterock said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Israel 🇮🇱 gives it’s response to a ‘ceasefire’:

•50 🇮🇱 jets dropped 160 bombs in 1 min
•100 Lebanon 🇱🇧 sites bombed in 10 mins
•multiple Lebanon 🇱🇧residential locations
•300 plus people murdered

Israel 🇮🇱 is a pariah state

Expel 🇮🇱 from the UN now.pic.twitter.com/ezxCs5QsEG

— Howard Beckett (@BeckettUnite) April 8, 2026

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Can you not see how hypocritical it is to be so upset at Israel over a friendly fire incident against us (USS Liberty) yet give refuse to issue a syllable of criticism of a group ((Hizballah) who has killed hundreds of American citizens, on purpose with great malice and forethought, to include capturing a US diplomat and skinning him alive on video tape send to President Reagan?

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That never happened, you know.

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What part are you saying did not happen?

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A diplomat being skinned alive on video tape. He was kidnapped and tortured to death, but that particular claim is fiction (and he was a spook, not a diplomat).

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Are you referring to William Buckley?

EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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whiterock said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Israel 🇮🇱 gives it’s response to a ‘ceasefire’:

•50 🇮🇱 jets dropped 160 bombs in 1 min
•100 Lebanon 🇱🇧 sites bombed in 10 mins
•multiple Lebanon 🇱🇧residential locations
•300 plus people murdered

Israel 🇮🇱 is a pariah state

Expel 🇮🇱 from the UN now.pic.twitter.com/ezxCs5QsEG

— Howard Beckett (@BeckettUnite) April 8, 2026

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Can you not see how hypocritical it is to be so upset at Israel over a friendly fire incident against us (USS Liberty) yet give refuse to issue a syllable of criticism of a group ((Hizballah) who has killed hundreds of American citizens, on purpose with great malice and forethought, to include capturing a US diplomat and skinning him alive on video tape send to President Reagan?

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That never happened, you know.

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What part are you saying did not happen?

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A diplomat being skinned alive on video tape. He was kidnapped and tortured to death, but that particular claim is fiction (and he was a spook, not a diplomat).

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Are you referring to William Buckley?

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Yeah.

What a joke. https://t.co/ICwUOWlde4

— Ron DeSantis (@RonDeSantis) April 11, 2026

EatMoreSalmon said:

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Jacques Strap said:

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Fog of War caveat, I wonder if this actually happened.

🚨🇺🇸🚢Several U.S. navy ships crossed the Strait of Hormuz on Saturday, U.S. official says
🚨🇺🇸🚢The move was not coordinated with Iran. It's the first time this happens since the beginning of the war

— Barak Ravid (@BarakRavid) April 11, 2026

Axios:
U.S. warships cross Strait of Hormuz for first time since Iran war began

Several U.S. Navy ships crossed the Strait of Hormuz on Saturday, a U.S. official told Axios.
Why it matters: The move was not coordinated with Iran. It is the first time U.S. warships crossed the strait since the beginning of the war.

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Let's hope it did happen. And let's hope they went through and came back out.

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Bloomberg US Navy Attempts to Cross Hormuz; Accounts Differ on What Ensued

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Several US navy ships crossed the Strait of Hormuz on Saturday, Axios said in a report that was disputed by an intelligence official and Iranian media.

The crossing, the first time since the start of the conflict, wasn't coordinated with Iran, Axios said, citing a US official it didn't identify. The operation saw the ships cross the strait from east to west to the Gulf before making their way back to the Arabian sea, according to the report.

However, a regional intelligence official said two US Navy Arleigh Burkeclass destroyers attempted to transit the Strait of Hormuz on Saturday but were forced to turn back after encountering threats from Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, which also launched a UAV in the direction of the vessels.

The incident happened around noon Dubai time, as US and Iranian delegations were in Islamabad for negotiations, the official said, requesting anonymity to discuss confidential matters.

Neither the White House nor Pentagon immediately answered a request for comment.

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Bloomberg's update has a different account of the events than Axios. So, who knows.

While US warships crossing the Strait of Hormuz would be a positive development, multiple oil tankers safely crossing the strait would be a much more positive development.

So which is it?

BREAKING: Negotiators reportedly hit stalemate over Strait of Hormuz.

— Leading Report (@LeadingReport) April 11, 2026

BREAKING: President Trump announces the Strait of Hormuz is opening up.

— Leading Report (@LeadingReport) April 11, 2026

BREAKING: Another round of negotiations between the US and Iran will be held tonight or tomorrow in Pakistan, per Iranian state affiliated media.

— The Kobeissi Letter (@KobeissiLetter) April 11, 2026

🇺🇸🇮🇷🇵🇰 Iran's Vice President:

"If we negotiate in Islamabad with representatives of 'America First,' we are likely to reach an agreement that benefits the world.

However, if we negotiate in Islamabad with representatives of 'Israel First,' no agreement will be reached, and we… https://t.co/UDdo0S5fS9 pic.twitter.com/NAx8bldYLG

— Mario Nawfal (@MarioNawfal) April 11, 2026

US intelligence indicates that China is preparing to provide Iran with air defense systems in a matter of weeks, CNN reported. Beijing is expected to ship shoulder-fired, surface-to-air missiles known as Man-Portable Air Defense Systems. https://t.co/Cv8MspAzcb

— Bloomberg (@business) April 11, 2026

Trump: Massive numbers of completely empty oil tankers, some of the largest anywhere in the World, are heading, right now, to the United States to load up with the best and “sweetest” oil pic.twitter.com/0tdWQ1pA0c

— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) April 11, 2026

USS Frank E. Peterson (DDG 121) and USS Michael Murphy (DDG 112) transited the Strait of Hormuz and operated in the Arabian Gulf as part of a broader mission to ensure the strait is fully clear of sea mines previously laid by Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps. https://t.co/BKHbMp7qpG

— Pete Hegseth (@PeteHegseth) April 11, 2026

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The Price Jump Is Coming: Why You Need to Stock Up on Food & Consumer Goods This Week

"Here is what I need you to understand: this ceasefire does not change anything in the analysis below. The ceasefire may already be dead. But even if it somehow survives, the damage is done:

The diesel that is already at $5.62 a gallon is already on the trucks delivering your food. The fertilizer that wasn't shipped for 40 days isn't arriving this week. The planting decisions that farmers already made shifting away from crops that need nitrogen fertilizer aren't reversing. The 40-day threshold that the United Nations warned would trigger structural crop reductions was crossed yesterday. Oil at $95 is still 43% above pre-war levels. And the physical crude that refineries already purchased at $141 per barrel is already in the pipeline.

The ceasefire announcement will make people think the crisis is over. That is exactly when you should be buying while everyone else relaxes.

If the ceasefire holds, prices come down slowly over months, not days. If it collapses and Iran's Parliament Speaker just called it "unreasonable" prices snap back to $112+ overnight. Either way, the food price increases from the last 40 days of diesel and fertilizer disruption are locked in and arriving at your grocery store in the next two to four weeks.

Read the full analysis below. Then go shopping."

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Just read an interesting article from economists at Moody's, that there is no going back to what we had price-wise on oil. Well, Trump gave Musk what he wanted higher priced gas making EVs popular again. Joe Biden and AOC will be happy.

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I have heard similar analysis before, and it didn't end up that way. Is there a reason that I should expect this time is different?

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I must have missed that analysis. Remind me what happened the last time a regional war decimated Gulf oil production and closed the Strait of Hormuz?

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Oil was supposed to run out.
You don't remember this?

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When was oil supposed to run out?

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Which prediction do you want?

There have been many since oil first even started to be drilled.

There were some in the early 1900s that it would run out by the 1930s.

IN the 1940s there were more predictions.

1960s
1970s
early 2000s
2020
or even within the last year.

Of course each time the date is pushed back. Like right now the "prediction" seems to be on the 2050-2060s that we will not run out but will start producing less as demand drops and this is the only thing that will prevent us from running out completely for a little while longer.

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Yeah, but how are we getting it and where?

Fracking is causing geotechnical problems. We are now being told the Gulf is open. I don't want to see oil derricks off Clearwater Beach. We are now opening Alaska. It is not as simple as the supply is good. There are tradeoffs.

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So you would rather run out then see an oil derrick off shore?

You would rather run out than get it from places that don't impact you?

I'd rather have oil.

I don't mind the oil derricks when I am at the beach. It actually provided interesting views. You can watch the ships that go to them, see their lights or when there are storms coming realize it because the lights can't be seen.

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Anyone remember Deepwater Horizon?

The population of Grand Isle, Louisiana is about a thousand people.

The population of the Clearwater-Tampa-Saint Pete is 3.4 million, and any incident is going to see oil entering Tampa Bay through its inlets, not just washing up on the barrier islands.

I don't want to see oil rigs off Clearwater Beach any more than I want to live next to a nuclear reactor.

The real question is what do we do about complete reliance on an energy source, a significant portion of which is halfway around the world under hostile sands.

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Lol. That is your argument???? One incident out of the hundreds of wells out there operating for years and years???

That is like using the Exxon Valdez as an argument of why oil shouldn't be in ships. One incident out of the thousands of ships that have made hundreds of crossings.

It is also on par with the crying about pipelines that have a small leak but ignore the billions of gallons that flow through it with no problem.

FLBear5630 said:

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Realitybites said:

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cowboycwr said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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cowboycwr said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Realitybites said:

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The Price Jump Is Coming: Why You Need to Stock Up on Food & Consumer Goods This Week

"Here is what I need you to understand: this ceasefire does not change anything in the analysis below. The ceasefire may already be dead. But even if it somehow survives, the damage is done:

The diesel that is already at $5.62 a gallon is already on the trucks delivering your food. The fertilizer that wasn't shipped for 40 days isn't arriving this week. The planting decisions that farmers already made shifting away from crops that need nitrogen fertilizer aren't reversing. The 40-day threshold that the United Nations warned would trigger structural crop reductions was crossed yesterday. Oil at $95 is still 43% above pre-war levels. And the physical crude that refineries already purchased at $141 per barrel is already in the pipeline.

The ceasefire announcement will make people think the crisis is over. That is exactly when you should be buying while everyone else relaxes.

If the ceasefire holds, prices come down slowly over months, not days. If it collapses and Iran's Parliament Speaker just called it "unreasonable" prices snap back to $112+ overnight. Either way, the food price increases from the last 40 days of diesel and fertilizer disruption are locked in and arriving at your grocery store in the next two to four weeks.

Read the full analysis below. Then go shopping."

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Just read an interesting article from economists at Moody's, that there is no going back to what we had price-wise on oil. Well, Trump gave Musk what he wanted higher priced gas making EVs popular again. Joe Biden and AOC will be happy.

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I have heard similar analysis before, and it didn't end up that way. Is there a reason that I should expect this time is different?

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I must have missed that analysis. Remind me what happened the last time a regional war decimated Gulf oil production and closed the Strait of Hormuz?

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Oil was supposed to run out.
You don't remember this?

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When was oil supposed to run out?

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Which prediction do you want?

There have been many since oil first even started to be drilled.

There were some in the early 1900s that it would run out by the 1930s.

IN the 1940s there were more predictions.

1960s
1970s
early 2000s
2020
or even within the last year.

Of course each time the date is pushed back. Like right now the "prediction" seems to be on the 2050-2060s that we will not run out but will start producing less as demand drops and this is the only thing that will prevent us from running out completely for a little while longer.

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Yeah, but how are we getting it and where?

Fracking is causing geotechnical problems. We are now being told the Gulf is open. I don't want to see oil derricks off Clearwater Beach. We are now opening Alaska. It is not as simple as the supply is good. There are tradeoffs.

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So you would rather run out then see an oil derrick off shore?

You would rather run out than get it from places that don't impact you?

I'd rather have oil.

I don't mind the oil derricks when I am at the beach. It actually provided interesting views. You can watch the ships that go to them, see their lights or when there are storms coming realize it because the lights can't be seen.

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Anyone remember Deepwater Horizon?

The population of Grand Isle, Louisiana is about a thousand people.

The population of the Clearwater-Tampa-Saint Pete is 3.4 million, and any incident is going to see oil entering Tampa Bay through its inlets, not just washing up on the barrier islands.

I don't want to see oil rigs off Clearwater Beach any more than I want to live next to a nuclear reactor.

The real question is what do we do about complete reliance on an energy source, a significant portion of which is halfway around the world under hostile sands.

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Deepwater Horizon impacted Clearwater Beach. The whole area, they found oil in the Keys.

If we have to destroy the world we live in to get oil, don't you think there is something fundamentally wrong with where we are? We are now opening Anwhar and other park areas, drilling the Gulf (DeSantis is dead set against it), fracking to the point of earthquakes and to go with the standard cancer clusters, drinking water contamination and wildlife destruction.

I agree with you that we are dependent and cold turkey is a non-starter. But, a systematic shift to other sources where we can do them is not unreasonable.

But, of course they do make for interesting land scapes at the beach there is that.

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Deepwater Horizon was a horrible tragedy. But again it was one incident on one rig when there are thousands out there. All operating 365 days a year for years with no incidents. So basically a hundred thousand total days of incident free days.

So your argument is complaining about the .0001% of days.

Not really a solid argument.

cowboycwr said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Realitybites said:

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cowboycwr said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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cowboycwr said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Realitybites said:

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The Price Jump Is Coming: Why You Need to Stock Up on Food & Consumer Goods This Week

"Here is what I need you to understand: this ceasefire does not change anything in the analysis below. The ceasefire may already be dead. But even if it somehow survives, the damage is done:

The diesel that is already at $5.62 a gallon is already on the trucks delivering your food. The fertilizer that wasn't shipped for 40 days isn't arriving this week. The planting decisions that farmers already made shifting away from crops that need nitrogen fertilizer aren't reversing. The 40-day threshold that the United Nations warned would trigger structural crop reductions was crossed yesterday. Oil at $95 is still 43% above pre-war levels. And the physical crude that refineries already purchased at $141 per barrel is already in the pipeline.

The ceasefire announcement will make people think the crisis is over. That is exactly when you should be buying while everyone else relaxes.

If the ceasefire holds, prices come down slowly over months, not days. If it collapses and Iran's Parliament Speaker just called it "unreasonable" prices snap back to $112+ overnight. Either way, the food price increases from the last 40 days of diesel and fertilizer disruption are locked in and arriving at your grocery store in the next two to four weeks.

Read the full analysis below. Then go shopping."

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Just read an interesting article from economists at Moody's, that there is no going back to what we had price-wise on oil. Well, Trump gave Musk what he wanted higher priced gas making EVs popular again. Joe Biden and AOC will be happy.

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I have heard similar analysis before, and it didn't end up that way. Is there a reason that I should expect this time is different?

---

I must have missed that analysis. Remind me what happened the last time a regional war decimated Gulf oil production and closed the Strait of Hormuz?

---

Oil was supposed to run out.
You don't remember this?

---

When was oil supposed to run out?

---

Which prediction do you want?

There have been many since oil first even started to be drilled.

There were some in the early 1900s that it would run out by the 1930s.

IN the 1940s there were more predictions.

1960s
1970s
early 2000s
2020
or even within the last year.

Of course each time the date is pushed back. Like right now the "prediction" seems to be on the 2050-2060s that we will not run out but will start producing less as demand drops and this is the only thing that will prevent us from running out completely for a little while longer.

---

Yeah, but how are we getting it and where?

Fracking is causing geotechnical problems. We are now being told the Gulf is open. I don't want to see oil derricks off Clearwater Beach. We are now opening Alaska. It is not as simple as the supply is good. There are tradeoffs.

---

So you would rather run out then see an oil derrick off shore?

You would rather run out than get it from places that don't impact you?

I'd rather have oil.

I don't mind the oil derricks when I am at the beach. It actually provided interesting views. You can watch the ships that go to them, see their lights or when there are storms coming realize it because the lights can't be seen.

---

Anyone remember Deepwater Horizon?

The population of Grand Isle, Louisiana is about a thousand people.

The population of the Clearwater-Tampa-Saint Pete is 3.4 million, and any incident is going to see oil entering Tampa Bay through its inlets, not just washing up on the barrier islands.

I don't want to see oil rigs off Clearwater Beach any more than I want to live next to a nuclear reactor.

The real question is what do we do about complete reliance on an energy source, a significant portion of which is halfway around the world under hostile sands.

---

Deepwater Horizon impacted Clearwater Beach. The whole area, they found oil in the Keys.

If we have to destroy the world we live in to get oil, don't you think there is something fundamentally wrong with where we are? We are now opening Anwhar and other park areas, drilling the Gulf (DeSantis is dead set against it), fracking to the point of earthquakes and to go with the standard cancer clusters, drinking water contamination and wildlife destruction.

I agree with you that we are dependent and cold turkey is a non-starter. But, a systematic shift to other sources where we can do them is not unreasonable.

But, of course they do make for interesting land scapes at the beach there is that.

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Deepwater Horizon was a horrible tragedy. But again it was one incident on one rig when there are thousands out there. All operating 365 days a year for years with no incidents. So basically a hundred thousand total days of incident free days.

So your argument is complaining about the .0001% of days.

Not really a solid argument.

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Deepwater Horizon was also an experiment in mobile drilling platforms, not representative at all of the platforms commonly in use at the time.

FLBear5630 said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Realitybites said:

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cowboycwr said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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cowboycwr said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Realitybites said:

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The Price Jump Is Coming: Why You Need to Stock Up on Food & Consumer Goods This Week

"Here is what I need you to understand: this ceasefire does not change anything in the analysis below. The ceasefire may already be dead. But even if it somehow survives, the damage is done:

The diesel that is already at $5.62 a gallon is already on the trucks delivering your food. The fertilizer that wasn't shipped for 40 days isn't arriving this week. The planting decisions that farmers already made shifting away from crops that need nitrogen fertilizer aren't reversing. The 40-day threshold that the United Nations warned would trigger structural crop reductions was crossed yesterday. Oil at $95 is still 43% above pre-war levels. And the physical crude that refineries already purchased at $141 per barrel is already in the pipeline.

The ceasefire announcement will make people think the crisis is over. That is exactly when you should be buying while everyone else relaxes.

If the ceasefire holds, prices come down slowly over months, not days. If it collapses and Iran's Parliament Speaker just called it "unreasonable" prices snap back to $112+ overnight. Either way, the food price increases from the last 40 days of diesel and fertilizer disruption are locked in and arriving at your grocery store in the next two to four weeks.

Read the full analysis below. Then go shopping."

---

Just read an interesting article from economists at Moody's, that there is no going back to what we had price-wise on oil. Well, Trump gave Musk what he wanted higher priced gas making EVs popular again. Joe Biden and AOC will be happy.

---

I have heard similar analysis before, and it didn't end up that way. Is there a reason that I should expect this time is different?

---

I must have missed that analysis. Remind me what happened the last time a regional war decimated Gulf oil production and closed the Strait of Hormuz?

---

Oil was supposed to run out.
You don't remember this?

---

When was oil supposed to run out?

---

Which prediction do you want?

There have been many since oil first even started to be drilled.

There were some in the early 1900s that it would run out by the 1930s.

IN the 1940s there were more predictions.

1960s
1970s
early 2000s
2020
or even within the last year.

Of course each time the date is pushed back. Like right now the "prediction" seems to be on the 2050-2060s that we will not run out but will start producing less as demand drops and this is the only thing that will prevent us from running out completely for a little while longer.

---

Yeah, but how are we getting it and where?

Fracking is causing geotechnical problems. We are now being told the Gulf is open. I don't want to see oil derricks off Clearwater Beach. We are now opening Alaska. It is not as simple as the supply is good. There are tradeoffs.

---

So you would rather run out then see an oil derrick off shore?

You would rather run out than get it from places that don't impact you?

I'd rather have oil.

I don't mind the oil derricks when I am at the beach. It actually provided interesting views. You can watch the ships that go to them, see their lights or when there are storms coming realize it because the lights can't be seen.

---

Anyone remember Deepwater Horizon?

The population of Grand Isle, Louisiana is about a thousand people.

The population of the Clearwater-Tampa-Saint Pete is 3.4 million, and any incident is going to see oil entering Tampa Bay through its inlets, not just washing up on the barrier islands.

I don't want to see oil rigs off Clearwater Beach any more than I want to live next to a nuclear reactor.

The real question is what do we do about complete reliance on an energy source, a significant portion of which is halfway around the world under hostile sands.

---

Deepwater Horizon impacted Clearwater Beach. The whole area, they found oil in the Keys.

If we have to destroy the world we live in to get oil, don't you think there is something fundamentally wrong with where we are? We are now opening Anwhar and other park areas, drilling the Gulf (DeSantis is dead set against it), fracking to the point of earthquakes and to go with the standard cancer clusters, drinking water contamination and wildlife destruction.

I agree with you that we are dependent and cold turkey is a non-starter. But, a systematic shift to other sources where we can do them is not unreasonable.

But, of course they do make for interesting land scapes at the beach there is that.

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Of all available other sources, nuclear is the only feasible one at the moment.

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I agree, 100%. I do think Fusion is the future of the package plants. My son-in-law works in fusion.

I do think a combined approach is going to work best including wind, tidal and geothermal in certain areas. As well as oil, LNG, and coal. There is not a single answer, only an growing thirst for energy.

The problem I see is that because of the media era we live, highly complex issues and make them simple sound bites. So we end up with attempts at blanket approaches.

Call me a liberal, but I do agree with Teddy Roosevelt we need to protect and save the environment for future generations. Exploiting resources for short term benefit and destruction of irreplaceable assets is stupid and self-destructive.

But the money people won't stay here then, they will go to New Zealand...

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Energy demands are increasing dramatically. Nuclear is the safest and most environmentally friendly source. It would be good to bring the cost down a bit, but that isn't an impossible task.

Is fusion still 15-20 years away?