President Trump announces military strikes on Iran: Operation Epic Fury

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J.R.
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BearFan33 said:

FLBear5630 said:

Well don't worry, your hero is winning the war. We are only giving Iran $20B for 60% uranium.

Makes Obama look shrewd. You idiots still think this guy is good for us.. Hoe much did it cost us to beat Iran? Watch you guys will tell us what a good deal it is...

Source please for these claims?

He is correct. $25B to Iran. Barry laughing his ass off. What a clown show!
BearFan33
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FLBear5630 said:

BearFan33 said:

FLBear5630 said:

Well don't worry, your hero is winning the war. We are only giving Iran $20B for 60% uranium.

Makes Obama look shrewd. You idiots still think this guy is good for us.. Hoe much did it cost us to beat Iran? Watch you guys will tell us what a good deal it is...

Source please for these claims?

Was on Foxnews this afternoon. I was on treadmill at Gym.

US Considers $20B Cash-for-uranium Deal With Iran - Axios
The US considers $20B cash-for-uranium deal with Iran - Axios
U.S. considers $20 billion Iran cash-for-uranium deal


"Considers" does not equal deal. That is even if the stories are accurate.
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BearFan33 said:

FLBear5630 said:

BearFan33 said:

FLBear5630 said:

Well don't worry, your hero is winning the war. We are only giving Iran $20B for 60% uranium.

Makes Obama look shrewd. You idiots still think this guy is good for us.. Hoe much did it cost us to beat Iran? Watch you guys will tell us what a good deal it is...

Source please for these claims?

Was on Foxnews this afternoon. I was on treadmill at Gym.

US Considers $20B Cash-for-uranium Deal With Iran - Axios
The US considers $20B cash-for-uranium deal with Iran - Axios
U.S. considers $20 billion Iran cash-for-uranium deal


"Considers" does not equal deal. That is even if the stories are accurate.

Keep in mind that Iran could very seriously sign an agreement with the US, even keep it, but deny the deal publicly.

The media does not know any more than we do.

FLBear5630
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BearFan33 said:

FLBear5630 said:

BearFan33 said:

FLBear5630 said:

Well don't worry, your hero is winning the war. We are only giving Iran $20B for 60% uranium.

Makes Obama look shrewd. You idiots still think this guy is good for us.. Hoe much did it cost us to beat Iran? Watch you guys will tell us what a good deal it is...

Source please for these claims?

Was on Foxnews this afternoon. I was on treadmill at Gym.

US Considers $20B Cash-for-uranium Deal With Iran - Axios
The US considers $20B cash-for-uranium deal with Iran - Axios
U.S. considers $20 billion Iran cash-for-uranium deal


"Considers" does not equal deal. That is even if the stories are accurate.


Because Trump couldn't do that... Art of the Deal. Do you think it is bitcoin or pallets?

If he does it,basically 20x more money than Obama, does that qualify as why did we do this? That is 20B on top of what we spent bombing them. Yeah, cutting the debt.

You guys will come up with some analysis that this was shrewd. Whiterock will have to start writing now to inform us how good it is but we just dont understand.
Jacques Strap
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Question: Do real time shipping sites indicate that ships are moving in the strait of Hormuz?

AI Overview

As of April 17, 2026, real-time shipping sites and tracking data indicate that while Iran has declared the Strait of Hormuz "completely open" for commercial traffic, movement remains limited and tightly controlled following a, 10-day ceasefire in the US-Israeli-Iranian conflict.

Following months of severe disruption since February 28, 2026, when the channel was effectively blocked, current data shows the following:

Limited Traffic: Data from trackers like MarineTraffic and Kpler show a "trickle" or small number of vessels navigating the strait compared to the pre-conflict average of 140 daily.

Designated Routing: Vessels are restricted to specific, "coordinated routes" enforced by Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), particularly between the islands of Larak and Hormuz.

Active Blockade: A US naval blockade of Iranian ports remains in place despite the announcement, which has caused some vessels to turn back or wait outside the strait.

Turned-off Transponders: Many ships are operating with their Automatic Identification System (AIS) transponders turned off, or are "spoofing" their locations, making exact tracking difficult.

Recent Activity: Reports from April 17 show some tankers attempting passage, including the first, though empty, cruise ship to transit since the conflict began.

In summary, shipping sites show that movement is possible but not back to normal, with high levels of caution, logistical constraints, and risks remaining due to the ongoing US-Iran standoff.
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Porteroso
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Too many conflicting reports coming out. Giving them $25bn for their uranium would be a huge loss, especially if they are keeping some at lower enrichment.

But that might not be true. Too much we don't know.
Sam Lowry
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Porteroso said:

Too many conflicting reports coming out. Giving them $25bn for their uranium would be a huge loss, especially if they are keeping some at lower enrichment.

But that might not be true. Too much we don't know.
Trump is doing what he's been doing all along, trying to juke the markets while he desperately searches for a way out of this disaster. An exchange of uranium for money would be a strategic blunder for Iran as well as a humiliation for the US. I don't see either side agreeing to such a lose/lose proposition.
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Sam Lowry said:

Porteroso said:

Too many conflicting reports coming out. Giving them $25bn for their uranium would be a huge loss, especially if they are keeping some at lower enrichment.

But that might not be true. Too much we don't know.
Trump is doing what he's been doing all along, trying to juke the markets while he desperately searches for a way out of this disaster. An exchange of uranium for money would be a strategic blunder for Iran as well as a humiliation for the US. I don't see either side agreeing to such a lose/lose proposition.


Vlad, is that you?
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Jacques Strap said:

Question: Do real time shipping sites indicate that ships are moving in the strait of Hormuz?

AI Overview

As of April 17, 2026, real-time shipping sites and tracking data indicate that while Iran has declared the Strait of Hormuz "completely open" for commercial traffic, movement remains limited and tightly controlled following a, 10-day ceasefire in the US-Israeli-Iranian conflict.

Following months of severe disruption since February 28, 2026, when the channel was effectively blocked, current data shows the following:

Limited Traffic: Data from trackers like MarineTraffic and Kpler show a "trickle" or small number of vessels navigating the strait compared to the pre-conflict average of 140 daily.

Designated Routing: Vessels are restricted to specific, "coordinated routes" enforced by Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), particularly between the islands of Larak and Hormuz.

Active Blockade: A US naval blockade of Iranian ports remains in place despite the announcement, which has caused some vessels to turn back or wait outside the strait.

Turned-off Transponders: Many ships are operating with their Automatic Identification System (AIS) transponders turned off, or are "spoofing" their locations, making exact tracking difficult.

Recent Activity: Reports from April 17 show some tankers attempting passage, including the first, though empty, cruise ship to transit since the conflict began.

In summary, shipping sites show that movement is possible but not back to normal, with high levels of caution, logistical constraints, and risks remaining due to the ongoing US-Iran standoff.



"Limited Traffic: Data from trackers like MarineTraffic and Kpler show a "trickle" or small number of vessels navigating the strait compared to the pre-conflict average of 140 daily."

Sheesh, even AI can't give some kind of number range in place of a descriptive word like "trickle."
That leaves the quantity up to the imagination of the reader.
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Realitybites
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Huge Denial by Iran
Iranian source in conversation with Al-Arabi Al-Jadeed: Trump's claim about the delivery of Iran's enriched uranium is baseless. Per the report:

Iranian source in conversation with Al-Arabi Al-Jadeed: Only civilian ships can pass through the Strait of Hormuz, and that too through routes specified by Iran. The announcement of the temporary opening of the Strait of Hormuz has nothing to do with the current negotiations with Washington.

We waited a few hours to make sure that a ceasefire had been established in Lebanon; then we temporarily opened the Strait of Hormuz. The announcement of the temporary opening of the Strait of Hormuz and the ceasefire in Lebanon are part of the agreement.

Negotiations on the issues of dispute with the United States are still ongoing, but due to Washington's excessive demands, there is no clear perspective.

Washington's demands in the negotiations remain illogical and unreasonable. The US President's claim about taking Iran's enriched uranium is baseless

The 'excessive demands' complaint is exactly the same Iranian position prior to Friday, when Trump made a series of massive claims and declarations on some kind of agreed-to and imminent final peace deal. Latest:

Iran says its enriched uranium is "as sacred to us as the soil of Iran and will not be transferred anywhere under any circumstances," adding that 60% enriched uranium will not leave the country "in any way," per Iran's Foreign Ministry via Tasnim.
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WSJ: Ships Turn Around After Iran's Military Says Strait of Hormuz Is Closed Again
Last Updated: April. 18, 2026 at 8:51am ET
Quote:

Ships Turn Around After Iran's Military Says Strait of Hormuz Is Closed Again
By Costas Paris

Some 20 ships lining up to cross the Strait of Hormuz were turning back toward Oman after Iran's military said that the waterway was closed again because of the U.S. blockade of Iranian ports, according to shipowners and brokers.

Brokers in Athens and Singapore that arranged the ships' cargoes told The Wall Street Journal the vessels had been waiting to enter the Persian Gulf via the northern Larak corridor, and had agreed to pay Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps imposed tolls of $2 million each.


UK Maritime Trade Operations (UKMTO) WARNING 037-26

Quote:

UKMTO WARNING 038-26 - ATTACK Report Date:18 Apr 2026 Report Time:1125UTC Issue Date:18 Apr 2026 Source: Company Security Officer UKMTO has received a report of an incident 25NM northeast of OMAN. A report of a Container Ship being hit by an unknown projectile which caused damage to some of the containers, no fires or environment impact reported. Authorities are investigating. Vessels are advised to report suspicious activity to UKMTO.


Quote:

ATTACK Report Date:18 Apr 2026 Report Time: 0920UTC Issue Date:18 Apr 2026 Source: Master UKMTO has received a report of an incident 20NM northeast of OMAN. The Master of a Tanker reports being approached by 2 IRGC gun boats, no VHF challenge that then fired upon the tanker. Tanker and crew are reported safe. Authorities are investigating.





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EatMoreSalmon
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Hardliners still in charge. At least a couple more weeks of blockade it appears.
FLBear5630
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EatMoreSalmon said:

Hardliners still in charge. At least a couple more weeks of blockade it appears.

You really think it will change?

If they closed the Strait, there was a deal cut with Russia or China by Iran.

They are playing for Europe and China to get involved. Europe and Asia are the ones hurting by this. Trump going to cave when Xi talks to him, like last time?
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FLBear5630 said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Hardliners still in charge. At least a couple more weeks of blockade it appears.

You really think it will change?

If they closed the Strait, there was a deal cut with Russia or China by Iran.

They are playing for Europe and China to get involved. Europe and Asia are the ones hurting by this. Trump going to cave when Xi talks to him, like last time?


You put out even more assumptions than I did, there.
FLBear5630
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Assumptions or questions?

I know we are not allowed to ask when what he puts out doesn't match reality. He has no clothes and we are not allowed to comment. All is well, the war is over and Iran is agreeing to everything. Now, tell that to the people still on the AFB's in Saudi...

Or, you can pass it off as incoherent babble.
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You do realize this is what Iran would say even if every ounce of its uranium was already in US hands in accordance with a signed agreement?
FLBear5630
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Who is watching what they say? Who cares about that. I am watching the actions occurring.

  • Troops are still deployed.
  • Strait is closed again.
  • Trump cut a deal with Xi when China came calling.
  • Gas is still up and jet fuel is getting worse.
If we had the Uranium, Trump would never shut up. We are not getting the Uranium and this is not over until Bibi say's it is over.

Look at what is happening. Not at what the mouthpieces want you to believe. They will tell you whatever makes Trump looks good, many on here are more MAGA than Kristin. I suspect some companies are hooked up at the trough of Government contracts, as that is the only thing that makes sense. The discussion on Data Center's tells me I am pretty incoherently on target where the DOE Grants are going.

boognish_bear
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I guess this is just the price we all get to pay to once again destroy the nuclear program that we obliterated last summer also

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303Bear
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We're so good at this war we are going to get to win it for the 5th time!
Oldbear83
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FLBear, this is not a video game. Even if we had a clear, binding agreement it will take weeks, in some cases months, for the effects to flow downstream and for us to be able to stand down troops, and the economy show the restored flow.

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FLBear5630
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Are going to get inspectors in like we did in Iraq?
Oldbear83
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And how many of those women are supporting the new leader, because their husbands are at the mercy of that regime and it's well-known commitment to human rights?
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This is market manipulation. see next Boognish post...
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Starting to make sense? We will bomb until Sunday night...
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