President Trump announces military strikes on Iran: Operation Epic Fury

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The War Powers Resolution (Act) of 1973
To limit unilateral presidential military actions, Congress passed the War Powers Resolution over a presidential veto. It requires: [1, 2]
  • Consultation: The President must consult with Congress before introducing U.S. Armed Forces into hostilities "in every possible instance". [1]
  • Notification: The President must notify Congress in writing within 48 hours of deploying troops into hostilities or imminent combat zones. [1]
  • The 60-Day Clock: The President must terminate the use of troops within 60 days (with a potential 30-day extension for safe withdrawal) unless Congress formally declares war, passes an AUMF, or specifically extends the deadline. [1, 2]
Congress is failing us
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In reply to Waco1947 • 2:31p, 6/2/26
Waco1947 said:
The War Powers Resolution (Act) of 1973
To limit unilateral presidential military actions, Congress passed the War Powers Resolution over a presidential veto. It requires: [1, 2]
  • Consultation: The President must consult with Congress before introducing U.S. Armed Forces into hostilities "in every possible instance". [1]
  • Notification: The President must notify Congress in writing within 48 hours of deploying troops into hostilities or imminent combat zones. [1]
  • The 60-Day Clock: The President must terminate the use of troops within 60 days (with a potential 30-day extension for safe withdrawal) unless Congress formally declares war, passes an AUMF, or specifically extends the deadline. [1, 2]
Congress is failing us


For decades.
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In reply to Guy Noir • 2:44p, 6/2/26
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303Bear said:
Guy Noir said:
Sam Lowry said:
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Realitybites said:

The guy makes some good points but I do not agree with one statement that Iran "does not provide an existential threat". There have been terrorist actions throughout the world for which Iran has been responsible. Examples:
Hezbollah's in Lebanon, Houthis in Yemen. Attacks on Synagogues in the USA. The US Citizens that were attacked at a music festival in Israel. Iran has exported terrorism for many years.

Some of those threats are dubious, and none of them are existential.

Are you saying the Oct 6 attack of a music festival did not occur? Are you saying the Houthis did not shoot missiles at commercial ships attempting to travel through the Suez canal? If you do a google news search there numerous reports of attacks or plans to attack synagogues in recent history. These are real events that exist in our recent history. Thus they are existential.


None of those represent an existential threat to any entity or nation in any meaningful way, and certainly do not represent anything close to an existential threat to the United States.

If the history of Iran's activities over the last 50 years are not predictors of an existential threat then what is something that you would consider a threat?

What action or actions of Iran in the last 50 years represent an existential threat to the USA?

They are certainly a state sponsor of terror and pack of right SOBs. They have taken/facilitated horrible acts both abroad and against their own people. That said, they have not done anything that moves the needle on the collapse of the United States, and every argument I have heard to the contrary has been a poor attempt at a post hoc justification for starting the war.
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In reply to Waco1947 • 5:42p, 6/2/26
Waco1947 said:
The War Powers Resolution (Act) of 1973
To limit unilateral presidential military actions, Congress passed the War Powers Resolution over a presidential veto. It requires: [1, 2]
  • Consultation: The President must consult with Congress before introducing U.S. Armed Forces into hostilities "in every possible instance". [1]
  • Notification: The President must notify Congress in writing within 48 hours of deploying troops into hostilities or imminent combat zones. [1]
  • The 60-Day Clock: The President must terminate the use of troops within 60 days (with a potential 30-day extension for safe withdrawal) unless Congress formally declares war, passes an AUMF, or specifically extends the deadline. [1, 2]
Congress is failing us

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In reply to boognish_bear • 5:44p, 6/2/26
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Trump is selling out America.
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In reply to boognish_bear • 7:06p, 6/2/26
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We spend $4.5 Trillion a year on entitlements for pensions, healthcare, housing, food, etc. I get the anger towards Israel, but the woe is me angle rings hollow to reality.
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In reply to ATL Bear • 7:41p, 6/2/26
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boognish_bear said:
We spend $4.5 Trillion a year on entitlements for pensions, healthcare, housing, food, etc. I get the anger towards Israel, but the woe is me angle rings hollow to reality.

I don't think it's woe is me, it's they can pay for their own wars, in blood and dollars.
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In reply to Porteroso • 7:59p, 6/2/26
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ATL Bear said:
boognish_bear said:
We spend $4.5 Trillion a year on entitlements for pensions, healthcare, housing, food, etc. I get the anger towards Israel, but the woe is me angle rings hollow to reality.

I don't think it's woe is me, it's they can pay for their own wars, in blood and dollars.
They would if we'd let them.

EDIT: One of the first things said was "I feel like the United States is just a 'cow pasture' for Israel".
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In reply to ATL Bear • 8:02p, 6/2/26
ATL Bear said:
Porteroso said:
ATL Bear said:
boognish_bear said:

We spend $4.5 Trillion a year on entitlements for pensions, healthcare, housing, food, etc. I get the anger towards Israel, but the woe is me angle rings hollow to reality.

I don't think it's woe is me, it's they can pay for their own wars, in blood and dollars.

They would if we'd let them.


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In reply to FLBear5630 • 9:17p, 6/2/26
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boognish_bear said:

Trump is selling out America.


Read the reply above. We aren't joining military leadership. It's a military tech sharing alliance.
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In reply to boognish_bear • 9:58a, 6/3/26
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I don't think he really wants to meet the ayatollah at that eventual place.
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11:27a, 6/3/26
GCC blasts 'cowardly attacks' after Kuwait International Airport rocked by Iranian missiles: one dead, 63 injured.
Overnight saw US-Iran exchange fire in Strait of Hormuz - as US attacked Qeshm Island - and Iran unleashed more projectiles on Gulf states. Most intense fighting since April.
IRGC via state media: Tehran has frozen all back-channel communication with Washington over Israeli operations in Lebanon, calls Trump narrative a fantasy.
Trump says Iran has agreed not to pursue a nuclear weapon, while saying talks are still ongoing. Tells NYP he believes the crisis in the Strait of Hormuz will "resolve itself fairly quickly
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In reply to boognish_bear • 8:50p, 6/3/26
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unbelievable! Me thought Piggy wanted to erratic ate the entire Iranian Regime. Now , they are besties. Can anyone take this effing fool serious? don't give me the "negotiating " BS. Piggy is effed and he knows it. Hey Piggy,,,did you accomplish regime change? lol
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In reply to J.R. • 9:07p, 6/3/26
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boognish_bear said:

unbelievable! Me thought Piggy wanted to erratic ate the entire Iranian Regime. Now , they are besties. Can anyone take this effing fool serious? don't give me the "negotiating " BS. Piggy is effed and he knows it. Hey Piggy,,,did you accomplish regime change? lol


I think this is plan B after the repeated 24 hour deadlines to "bomb you back to caveman days" didn't work.
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In reply to boognish_bear • 9:55p, 6/3/26
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J.R. said:
boognish_bear said:

unbelievable! Me thought Piggy wanted to erratic ate the entire Iranian Regime. Now , they are besties. Can anyone take this effing fool serious? don't give me the "negotiating " BS. Piggy is effed and he knows it. Hey Piggy,,,did you accomplish regime change? lol


I think this is plan B after the repeated 24 hour deadlines to "bomb you back to caveman days" didn't work.

Not sure plan B works. (He has no plan). What is going to be funny is that he will end of with a deal not nearly as good as the JCPOA. you cant make this up. Gawd ...Merca looks foolish. We call this a quagmire! Glad we were out in 2-4weks!
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Here is what someone should tell the President, because it bears on his own political survival.

A well-armed tyranny ruling an unarmed population is remarkably durable under economic pain. The Iranian regime can starve its people and shoot the ones who object. It has done so for decades. It will absorb two-hundred-dollar oil and call it resistance.

A republic founded not on theocratic rule, but on rule of the people, by the people, and for the people is different. It answers to voters and these voters elected a President on a promise to crush the inflation Joe Biden left behind. Instead, they have watched costs climb under tariffs, trade wars, and now an actual war that has sent energy prices soaring with no end in sight. The mullahs can outlast their economic misery. The coalition that put this President in office cannot. Mr. Trump is betting the American voter has the patience of a captive Iranian. That is a bet he will lose.

The honorable path is also the sound one: finish what we started, or get out of the way of the ally willing to. Reopen Hormuz by force if Iran will not do it by agreement. Stop calling a war a ceasefire and stop dignifying a rout as diplomacy.

Otherwise, the verdict will be brief and brutal. We had Iran beaten. We talked ourselves out of the win. And we let a regime that shoots its own citizens lecture us on what a ceasefire means while we nodded along, shooting, as the President put it, "in a more moderate manner."
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In reply to J.R. • 8:09a
J.R. said:
boognish_bear said:

unbelievable! Me thought Piggy wanted to erratic ate the entire Iranian Regime. Now , they are besties. Can anyone take this effing fool serious? don't give me the "negotiating " BS. Piggy is effed and he knows it. Hey Piggy,,,did you accomplish regime change? lol


Honestly, I read your post and I feel like I'm reading a middle schoolers stream of conscious rant. It's incredible to me that you belittle others intellect when you have trouble stringing two sentences together. I get that you are consumed with hatred by Trump, but brother at least have a little self-respect. Any adult should be embarrassed by signing their name to something like this.
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In reply to Mothra • 8:38a
Mothra said:
J.R. said:
boognish_bear said:

unbelievable! Me thought Piggy wanted to erratic ate the entire Iranian Regime. Now , they are besties. Can anyone take this effing fool serious? don't give me the "negotiating " BS. Piggy is effed and he knows it. Hey Piggy,,,did you accomplish regime change? lol


Honestly, I read your post and I feel like I'm reading a middle schoolers stream of conscious rant. It's incredible to me that you belittle others intellect when you have trouble stringing two sentences together. I get that you are consumed with hatred by Trump, but brother at least have a little self-respect. Any adult should be embarrassed by signing their name to something like this.

whatever you mental giant! You are a joke, son! Viva la RWNJ (you).
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In reply to J.R. • 9:04a
J.R. said:
Mothra said:
J.R. said:
boognish_bear said:

unbelievable! Me thought Piggy wanted to erratic ate the entire Iranian Regime. Now , they are besties. Can anyone take this effing fool serious? don't give me the "negotiating " BS. Piggy is effed and he knows it. Hey Piggy,,,did you accomplish regime change? lol


Honestly, I read your post and I feel like I'm reading a middle schoolers stream of conscious rant. It's incredible to me that you belittle others intellect when you have trouble stringing two sentences together. I get that you are consumed with hatred by Trump, but brother at least have a little self-respect. Any adult should be embarrassed by signing their name to something like this.

whatever you mental giant! You are a joke, son! Viva la RWNJ (you).

I am no mental giant, but I also don't have the grammar and the reasoning abilities of a 6th grader. You sound like an idiot quite often.
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