william said:

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WAR.

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BearFan33 said:

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From an optics standpoint, Iran attacking shipping in SOH (again) is making them look like they violated the MOA. It buys Trump political cover if he wants to do something heavy handed like take Kharg or bomb their oil infrastructure. I'm not saying he will (or should), but the cover is there.

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There is no "cover" for this Israel First war.

They've got 4 months left before guys like me who've voted Republican in every election since I was 18 sit it out and let the commies take over. I've been pushed the point where the schadenfreude I'll experience from watching the commies rip apart the Boomercons will be worth any pain I personally experience. Boomercons have a lot more to lose than I do.

whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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As you said originally, they have to take the deal. The tariff's caught them by surprise, probably in scope and scale.

I think you are seeing one of the first reactions to that situation. They have a deal they can live with, but will they next Tuesday? Trump is unpredictable. He may get pissed at Ottawa and change the terms, not honor them. What is going to stop him? As you said, they have no option.

You are a CEO, would you leave yourself at the whim of Trump? Where you HAVE to accept? You have to come on bended knee to cut a deal? You said it with your data centers, that if it doesn't work out we will go to another community that does. Why would you think that Ottawa, Seoul, Mexico City, Bejing, etc are different? They will play along until they can find a deal better and then switch even IF a little less profitable if more stable.

I agree on the trade deficit issue. But, I believe you are either mixing two separate issues. It is not what we did that is causing the issue, it is the how we did it. You know business loves stability. Unless you are going for a one deal kill, which is what Donald knows, you have to create a stable, respectable relationship. Both Trump and Bessent have not done that, it has been predatory. The US economy is not mergers and acquisitions...

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you are gazing the navel of your own mind, here. If Trump was as bad as you said, no one would have cut a deal with him in the first place. Everyone who did would be jumping ship already. Is that what we see? Do we see anything remotely approaching the pathology you describe? Allies in full revolt, already out the door, coalitions already formed against us...to isolate us?

No. We see absolutely nothing of the sort. In fact, we see the opposite. Allies standing firm, making the pledged investments. Economy picking up steam.

Citing a laundry list of what one posits theoretically could happen is not terribly good analysis. Fact is, our old trade relationships were not balanced. That is not sustainable. Our trade partners know that all too well.

Nothing wrong with mergers and acquisitions. Some work out as intended. Some do not. As long as the markets are sorting out winners & losers, it's all good....the way a self-correcting system is supposed to work.

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Why is it that you see the President as a king or dictator? Why would deals with the United States hinge upon the goodness or badness of one man?

The_barBEARian said:

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BearFan33 said:

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From an optics standpoint, Iran attacking shipping in SOH (again) is making them look like they violated the MOA. It buys Trump political cover if he wants to do something heavy handed like take Kharg or bomb their oil infrastructure. I'm not saying he will (or should), but the cover is there.

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There is no "cover" for this Israel First war.

They've got 4 months left before guys like me who've voted Republican in every election since I was 18 sit it out and let the commies take over. I've been pushed the point where the schadenfreude I'll experience from watching the commies rip apart the Boomercons will be worth any pain I personally experience. Boomercons have a lot more to lose than I do.

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Shipping lanes have to be open. NATO has come out saying the US was justified this time. If Iran isn't careful they will drag the EU into this. The EU already wants to secure the shipping lanes on Oman's coast.

The EU hates the idea of being on Israel's side, but they will not suffer economic collapse just to appease their migrant population.

Realitybites said:

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🚨 The U.S. has launched a significantly expanded wave of airstrikes on Iran that is four to five times larger than the strikes carried out 10 days ago, a U.S. official told Axios. The official said the operation is expected to continue for hours.

➤ A U.S. official told Axios… pic.twitter.com/x24Qqhfgsd

— Drop Site (@DropSiteNews) July 7, 2026

Dow futures down 1%-1.5% depending on the index, crude north of $74. BTC down 1.8%. Gold down 2.3%.

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Trump must've got confused and thought it was still the weekend.

Have you been paying attention?

It is all "I" did this or "I will invade" or "I will bomb"etc...

There is no we will do this , no US will do this, Everything is if he wants to do it, that is a King or dictator. Not an elected official

Porteroso said:

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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As you said originally, they have to take the deal. The tariff's caught them by surprise, probably in scope and scale.

I think you are seeing one of the first reactions to that situation. They have a deal they can live with, but will they next Tuesday? Trump is unpredictable. He may get pissed at Ottawa and change the terms, not honor them. What is going to stop him? As you said, they have no option.

You are a CEO, would you leave yourself at the whim of Trump? Where you HAVE to accept? You have to come on bended knee to cut a deal? You said it with your data centers, that if it doesn't work out we will go to another community that does. Why would you think that Ottawa, Seoul, Mexico City, Bejing, etc are different? They will play along until they can find a deal better and then switch even IF a little less profitable if more stable.

I agree on the trade deficit issue. But, I believe you are either mixing two separate issues. It is not what we did that is causing the issue, it is the how we did it. You know business loves stability. Unless you are going for a one deal kill, which is what Donald knows, you have to create a stable, respectable relationship. Both Trump and Bessent have not done that, it has been predatory. The US economy is not mergers and acquisitions...

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you are gazing the navel of your own mind, here. If Trump was as bad as you said, no one would have cut a deal with him in the first place. Everyone who did would be jumping ship already. Is that what we see? Do we see anything remotely approaching the pathology you describe? Allies in full revolt, already out the door, coalitions already formed against us...to isolate us?

No. We see absolutely nothing of the sort. In fact, we see the opposite. Allies standing firm, making the pledged investments. Economy picking up steam.

Citing a laundry list of what one posits theoretically could happen is not terribly good analysis. Fact is, our old trade relationships were not balanced. That is not sustainable. Our trade partners know that all too well.

Nothing wrong with mergers and acquisitions. Some work out as intended. Some do not. As long as the markets are sorting out winners & losers, it's all good....the way a self-correcting system is supposed to work.

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Why is it that you see the President as a king or dictator? Why would deals with the United States hinge upon the goodness or badness of one man?

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Ummm ... have you not been paying attention these past 18 months?

Guess the SOH is gonna be closed for a while

BREAKING: President Trump says the ceasefire with Iran is "over."

"I don't want to deal with them anymore, they are scum," Trump says. pic.twitter.com/laHQdRKZUV

— The Kobeissi Letter (@KobeissiLetter) July 8, 2026

Glad I filled my tank early this morning.

Our family just got back from a hiking vacation to Utah and Colorado. Gas was $4.50 in some of those mountain towns. I know it's always more expensive in those remote locations....but those were painful fill-ups.

It’s official:

In a sudden turn of events, Brent crude oil prices are back above $80/barrel. pic.twitter.com/rleaVxX0fo

— The Kobeissi Letter (@KobeissiLetter) July 8, 2026

Reporter: “Does this mean talks with Iran will not resume?”

President Trump: “I don’t care. They can talk, but I think they’re wasting their time. They’re a bunch of lying guys. My whole life, that’s all I do is deals… And I deal with these guys, and I say this is from a… pic.twitter.com/mlTTWNosMx

— RedWave Press (@RedWavePress) July 8, 2026

JUST IN: President Trump says the Iranian regime is bolstering its efforts to take him out after the U.S. eliminated their leaders.

“They had leaders, they're gone, and they had another set of leaders, they're gone now.”

“And you know what, I may be gone, too, because I'm their… pic.twitter.com/yXCzY0gjgr

— Fox News (@FoxNews) July 8, 2026

JUST IN: President Trump says the Iranian regime is bolstering its efforts to take him out after the U.S. eliminated their leaders.

"They had leaders, they're gone, and they had another set of leaders, they're gone now."

"And you know what, I may be gone, too, because I'm their number one target. It's out all over the place. I'm their number one because they're scum."

President Trump agrees to remove Syria from the state sponsor of terrorism list, which Syria has been designated since 1979. "Why wouldn't I, he's done a great job." pic.twitter.com/FrNqduCgAB

— CSPAN (@cspan) July 8, 2026

Negotiating bluster?

🚨 JUST IN: The US is considering SEIZING Kharg Island, which is the MAIN sea port for Iran's oil exports

30 MILLION barrels of oil are stored there, and 90% of their oil exports come through there.

"We attacked Kharg Island last night. We knocked out a piece. I said, 'don't… pic.twitter.com/ZB4OMEDrPP

— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) July 8, 2026

If only this ridiculous ****show could have been foreseen and prevented

Trump has said that "Iran has been defeated."

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) July 8, 2026

Yeah your girl Kamala would have been fantastic

How are the Lake Travis/Austin gay pride parades?

Trump: In one day, we can knock down every single bridge in Iran. Their electric plants, where they make their electricity, if we have to, we’ll take them out.

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) July 8, 2026

We need to knock out the negotiators

boognish_bear said:

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JUST IN: President Trump says the Iranian regime is bolstering its efforts to take him out after the U.S. eliminated their leaders.

“They had leaders, they're gone, and they had another set of leaders, they're gone now.”

“And you know what, I may be gone, too, because I'm their… pic.twitter.com/yXCzY0gjgr

— Fox News (@FoxNews) July 8, 2026

JUST IN: President Trump says the Iranian regime is bolstering its efforts to take him out after the U.S. eliminated their leaders.

"They had leaders, they're gone, and they had another set of leaders, they're gone now."

"And you know what, I may be gone, too, because I'm their number one target. It's out all over the place. I'm their number one because they're scum."

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Israel will kill him and Jews will tell us it was Iran.

They've been doing this **** since the USS Liberty.

Danielsjackson114 said:

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Yeah your girl Kamala would have been fantastic

How are the Lake Travis/Austin gay pride parades?

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Trump is literally doing everything he ran against doing... I should know! I voted for the guy 6 times!

Danielsjackson114 said:

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We need to knock out the negotiators

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Why? Just to solidify that we are the bad guys? I think we already established that after we blew up a school and killed a couple hundred school girls.

I really dislike the idea of voting for the commies but you Boomercons are out of control and equally atrocious and the only way to stop you guys is to take away Congress.

looks its gonna be a jiffy pop evening........

- el UF

WAR!

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U.S. Central Command
@CENTCOM
At the direction of the Commander in Chief, U.S. Central Command forces have started conducting additional strikes against Iran to further degrade their ability to threaten freedom of navigation in the Strait of Hormuz. The United States is holding Iran accountable for recent unjustified aggression against commercial shipping and civilian crews freely navigating a vital international waterway.

The_barBEARian said:

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Danielsjackson114 said:

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Yeah your girl Kamala would have been fantastic

How are the Lake Travis/Austin gay pride parades?

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Trump is literally doing everything he ran against doing... I should know! I voted for the guy 6 times!

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I thought only illegals and Dumocrats did this.

At the direction of the Commander in Chief, U.S. Central Command forces have started conducting additional strikes against Iran to further degrade their ability to threaten freedom of navigation in the Strait of Hormuz. The United States is holding Iran accountable for recent…

— U.S. Central Command (@CENTCOM) July 8, 2026

fubar said:

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Porteroso said:

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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As you said originally, they have to take the deal. The tariff's caught them by surprise, probably in scope and scale.

I think you are seeing one of the first reactions to that situation. They have a deal they can live with, but will they next Tuesday? Trump is unpredictable. He may get pissed at Ottawa and change the terms, not honor them. What is going to stop him? As you said, they have no option.

You are a CEO, would you leave yourself at the whim of Trump? Where you HAVE to accept? You have to come on bended knee to cut a deal? You said it with your data centers, that if it doesn't work out we will go to another community that does. Why would you think that Ottawa, Seoul, Mexico City, Bejing, etc are different? They will play along until they can find a deal better and then switch even IF a little less profitable if more stable.

I agree on the trade deficit issue. But, I believe you are either mixing two separate issues. It is not what we did that is causing the issue, it is the how we did it. You know business loves stability. Unless you are going for a one deal kill, which is what Donald knows, you have to create a stable, respectable relationship. Both Trump and Bessent have not done that, it has been predatory. The US economy is not mergers and acquisitions...

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you are gazing the navel of your own mind, here. If Trump was as bad as you said, no one would have cut a deal with him in the first place. Everyone who did would be jumping ship already. Is that what we see? Do we see anything remotely approaching the pathology you describe? Allies in full revolt, already out the door, coalitions already formed against us...to isolate us?

No. We see absolutely nothing of the sort. In fact, we see the opposite. Allies standing firm, making the pledged investments. Economy picking up steam.

Citing a laundry list of what one posits theoretically could happen is not terribly good analysis. Fact is, our old trade relationships were not balanced. That is not sustainable. Our trade partners know that all too well.

Nothing wrong with mergers and acquisitions. Some work out as intended. Some do not. As long as the markets are sorting out winners & losers, it's all good....the way a self-correcting system is supposed to work.

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Why is it that you see the President as a king or dictator? Why would deals with the United States hinge upon the goodness or badness of one man?

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Ummm ... have you not been paying attention these past 18 months?

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You missed the length of kingly executive power by some decades.

fubar said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Danielsjackson114 said:

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Yeah your girl Kamala would have been fantastic

How are the Lake Travis/Austin gay pride parades?

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Trump is literally doing everything he ran against doing... I should know! I voted for the guy 6 times!

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I thought only illegals and Dumocrats did this.

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Trump doesn't hate the Jews, so BarB doesn't like him.

We are back into the "they're begging for a deal" phase of this weekly war cycle

Trump: Iran just called. They want to make a deal very badly. I just don’t know if they’re worthy of making the deal.

Reporter: If they want to make a deal, why did they attack commercial vessels?

Trump: Because… they’re sort of crazy. But they want to make a deal badly. pic.twitter.com/g8Y5unmcE1

— Acyn (@Acyn) July 8, 2026

william said:

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80/3 = the new response ratio.........

D!

- el UF

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That's pretty modest in terms of asymmetrical warfare math.

Doesn't look like they are begging for a deal

BREAKING:

Iran fires ballistic missiles at Qatar

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) July 9, 2026

A new day, a new deal, a new victory, a new war stopped, a new tariff, and Iran is still prostrating themselves at our doorstep. Man, 2026 has a lot going on.

🚨 NEW: Fox’s Brit Hume on tonight’s new U.S. attacks on Iran: “I think the President has now reached his moment of truth on Iran which is simply that this is not a regime with whom you can make a deal and expect them to adhere to it - even if there are elements of the regime… pic.twitter.com/QgofPKLZRl

— TV News Now (@TVNewsNow) July 8, 2026

BREAKING: Missile alert sirens are reportedly sounding in Bahrain, Qatar, & Kuwait.

— Polymarket (@Polymarket) July 9, 2026

boognish_bear said:

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Doesn't look like they are begging for a deal

BREAKING:

Iran fires ballistic missiles at Qatar

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) July 9, 2026

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Polymarket bets on my travel to Qatar in two weeks just turned negative…