chriscbear said:

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I believe this is a older report not a current one.

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I think you are right. Thanks for catching that. I've taken it down.

Groundhog's Day

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boognish_bear said:

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Groundhog's Day

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It's Sunday , your time, so look for a peace non sense from the Liar in Chief. "They called yesterday and they really, really want a deal". Damn I'm learning so much for the Art of the Deal guy. It's like osmosis . My business associates better watch out! lol

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historian said:

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I'm not speaking historically. I'm talking about 2026: today there is no such place.

Historically, there are lots of places that no longer exist: Yugoslavia, the Soviet Union, & East Germany are some modern examples.

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So who are the Palestinians, in your mind, or do they not exist either?

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Now that the MOU is effectively dead, as Brett explains below, we are back to attempting to find a military solution to the SOH.

The problem is that we signed the MOU because there was no military solution & we needed the SOH open.

Our best option is to just walk away.

If… https://t.co/cKCRpVeAIb

— Joe Kent (@joekent16jan19) July 8, 2026

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Kent is jumping the gun here. The MOU isn't dead just yet. Iran will string us along for as long as it can.

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Who attacked the Mongols and incited them to world conquest?
Who attacked the Huns and incited them to world conquest?
Who attacked the Turks and incited them to world conquest?
Who attacked the (Americans)......?

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Good question.

Palestinians are Arabs who live in Israel but refuse to deal with the reality of the state of Israel because of their extreme bigotry. In that sense, they are much like fascists in the west who also cannot deal with reality and happen to be extremely bigoted most of the time.

historian said:

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Palestinians are Arabs who live in Israel but refuse to deal with the reality of the state of Israel because of their extreme bigotry. In that sense, they are much like fascists in the west who also cannot deal with reality and happen to be extremely bigoted most of the time.

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Interesting. So you consider the West Bank and Gaza to be part of Israel?

Let's goooooooo

historian said:

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Palestinians are Arabs who live in Israel but refuse to deal with the reality of the state of Israel because of their extreme bigotry. In that sense, they are much like fascists in the west who also cannot deal with reality and happen to be extremely bigoted most of the time.

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EFF Izzy. I'm tired of their crap and don't give the biblical stuff. Izzy settlements are a big problem. There is a place in another province where there is a growing Money Changer population making settlements and refusing to do business with local Thai. You think Thailand is a Jewish or their country. I'd run their asses out of here and that is far better than what they do. They kill people. Women and children big time. We assimilate here. It is critical.

You can say you are a liberal clown in less words. You know that right?

Danielsjackson114 said:

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You can say you are a liberal clown in less words. You know that right?

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yeah, you guessed. Flaming liberal. You are a punk with no job, no house, no experience, no travel. But, you are a effing genius , you chit bird, sexual confused RWNJ... please son. get back on the play ground. Did momma pack ur puddin ?

william said:

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Realitybites said:

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historian said:

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I'm not speaking historically. I'm talking about 2026: today there is no such place.

Historically, there are lots of places that no longer exist: Yugoslavia, the Soviet Union, & East Germany are some modern examples.

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Even today, in 2026, there is a place called Gaza. What you're promoting is a fiction common to ziocons and neocons.

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.... completely controlled by Hamas who have ruined millions of lives. Stolen billions meant to help those who really need it.

- el UF

One way to try and stop all that Nonsense.....

D!

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Are we talking about Hamas or Israel here?

Judea & Samaria are not officially part of Israel but de facto they are. It makes sense as they have been part of that nation for much of the past 4,000 years, despite all the crazy changes to the map.

Gaza was granted independence and promptly elected terrorists who abused the population and have been engaging in terrorism ever since. I know it's shocking that terrorists do terrorist things!

historian said:

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Judea & Samaria are not officially part of Israel but de facto they are. It makes sense as they have been part of that nation for much of the past 4,000 years, despite all the crazy changes to the map.

Gaza was granted independence and promptly elected terrorists who abused the population and have been engaging in terrorism ever since. I know it's shocking that terrorists do terrorist things!

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I'm just trying to figure out where you think these people live. Most of the world recognizes the existence of a Palestinian state. Are these Arabs citizens of Israel, or are they living under occupation?

Why are you so infatuated with a group of people you have absolutely no connection/relation to?

Danielsjackson114 said:

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Why are you so infatuated with a group of people you have absolutely no connection/relation to?

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The inverse could be asked of you and many other posters in this thread about Israel and Israelis.

Idc about Israel or jews in general for that matter lol

If they were wiped out, I wouldn't be losing sleep

Danielsjackson114 said:

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Idc about Israel or jews in general for that matter lol

If they were wiped out, I wouldn't be losing sleep

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That's always been true of gentile Zionists. There's a reason we let Israel take most of the punishment for our imperial misadventures.

Danielsjackson114 said:

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Idc about Israel or jews in general for that matter lol

If they were wiped out, I wouldn't be losing sleep

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Wow! We have another resident Jew hater. You and the Militant Muslims have something in common. Very disappointed in you son!

I never said I disliked them. I am indifferent

You can force me to care about a certain group of people. Only defenseless ones like infants/babies etc

If I'm not mistaken, legally they are Arab citizens of Israel. If so, they have more rights and are treated better than Arabs in any other country of the region.

Other countries recognize a fictitious state of Palestine populated by terrorists is disturbing since it's motivated by antisemitism, at least in part. Particularly crazy and evil are those who accuse Israel of "genocide" for defending themselves from terrorists who actually wish to commit genocide and repeatedly try. Israel goes out of their way to avoid collateral damage while their enemies are truly genocidal and even seek to endanger their own civilians by using them as human shields. They are truly evil.

Christian's do have a connection to Jews and Israel since Jesus Christ was a Jew. Also, he commanded us to live our neighbors. Americans have connections to Israel since they are our allies. They have the most stable government in the region with a government and culture most similar to ours. It's logical for us to be allies.

Are you aware of how the Islamofascist terrorists routinely target Israeli civilians including young children and infants.? October 7 is a very stark example but it's been going on for decades.

I am with you. I am sure not out protesting Israelis. They were attacked, and now they have retaliated.

Palestine's have plenty of the blame if not all of it

Let's gooooooooo

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Donald Trump has now decided to charge 20 percent on all cargo ships going through the Strait of Hormuz. What about cargo ships bound for China? Will he give them a free pass?

Trump has just shown the world he is no better than Iran. He is an extortionist and opportunist. He is certainly no statesman.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2026/07/13/trump-iran-strait-of-hormuz/90899646007/

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I'd be surprised if we ever collect a cent of revenue here. Trump knows the world will react with a crazy hair on fire reaction. It may actually force "our allies" to get involved in the patrolling the straight. They are the ones who most benefit. Even if they don't, there will be such outrage, the Iranians will never get away with a toll.

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That may be the point.

The Iran conflict is an outlier compared to other conflicts in recent history. The Trump Administration learned the hard way that allies might manipulate American policy for their benefit (Israel under Netanyahu), that regime change requires an extant organization which can step in to replace the old regime (something the Iranian mullahs worked hard to prevent for decades), and that Middle East regimes understand that American policy often changes from one Administration to the next, and there will be a new President in 2029.

In some ways, Iran is trying to follow the path of Japan at the turn of the 20th Century. Japan was a relatively new power to the world of its day, even as Japan claimed a long cultural history. This was a contributing factor to Japan's 1898-1905 war with Russia, and Japan benefited significantly from its win, in that after WW1 Japan was awarded Russian territory in the Pacific Iran in some ways was trying to follow that strategy, by going to war with the US, knowing that simply to survive would raise Iran's reputation in the region (see North Korea).

So, in the manner of better late than never, it makes sense to think that the US is poisoning the well for charging tolls in the Gulf.

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historian said:

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We should be used to it by now: Trump makes bold even outrageous proposals on tariffs and other policies, everyone reacts with alarm and shock, hd used it to negotiate a better arrangement for the US, and life returns to normal except now NATO allies ard paying more for their defense, much of the riots is buying oil from the US instead of the Middle East, and so on.

His book is called "The Art of the Deal".

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There is very little art in saying the most ridiculous and bizarre things you can think of. "Oh we will do it too then!" is not a Presidential response to a terrorist state wanting to toll international waters.

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