President Trump announces military strikes on Iran: Operation Epic Fury

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Danielsjackson114
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More terrorists are about to die
Mitch Blood Green
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historian said:

That's very subjective and depends on too many variables. For pacifists, traitors, & surrender monkeys it was too expensive as soon as it began. They downgrade the threat Iran poses, despite 47 years of history, and are not concerned about the possibility of them getting nukes (or don't care). For those who see how dangerous Iran really is and recognize that they can never be allowed to have nukes.

Because of their fanatical ideology, we can be reasonably certain that they would use them if they had them, targeting the US ("Great Satan"), Israel ("Small Satan"), and others in their megalomaniacal fantasies of a new caliphate. It sounds crazy because it is. Fanatics don't think the same way as the rest of us and don't care about nuances.

There are lots of variations in between.


My line is different that yours. Mine starts in 1953.

Regardless, they are asking for $1.5T for military. I'm way way opposed to that number. Feel free to call me any of those names (but monkey) and I'll accept them all.

I think $1.5T is where they will hide the next wave of grift. (Defense contracts to Trump children)
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Massie: Still, there's a basethere's Fox News that's on TV every day trying to glorify this war. Eventually, I think people's pocketbooks are going to impose reality on them, and they're going to quit watching Fox and pay more attention to gas prices. We're already seeing that with farmers, and that's why you got this $12 billion bailout. This is essentially trying to buy the farmers off in time for the election, saying, "We're sorry. We know we wrecked your farm with high fertilizer and high diesel prices, so please don't punish us."
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Rand Paul slams Pete Hegseth for asking for $1.5 trillion.

"We currently spend a trillion. He wants $1.5 T. That's $500B increase. The biggest threat we have right now is our debt. We are more in danger of devaluing our currency than Iran invading the United States."

"The greatest threat to our national security is our debt. It is completely and utterly fiscally irresponsible for someone to ask for a 50% increase in the military. They are not asking for the approval of Congress. We have a war that we have not voted upon. No congressional vote. George Bush at the very least came to Congress."
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boognish_bear said:



Rand Paul slams Pete Hegseth for asking for $1.5 trillion.

"We currently spend a trillion. He wants $1.5 T. That's $500B increase. The biggest threat we have right now is our debt. We are more in danger of devaluing our currency than Iran invading the United States."

"The greatest threat to our national security is our debt. It is completely and utterly fiscally irresponsible for someone to ask for a 50% increase in the military. They are not asking for the approval of Congress. We have a war that we have not voted upon. No congressional vote. George Bush at the very least came to Congress."

The scary thing to me is that without Rand Paul there is nobody to say the obvious.
Realitybites
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The Houthis have hit two Saudi tankers in the Red Sea.

I would imagine oil keeps going up again tomorrow.
boognish_bear
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Guess I missed the part where the SOH stayed open



Trump outmaneuvered the best thinkers at the Pentagon. They told him that starting this conflict with Iran would send oil skyrocketing to $150 to $350 a barrel, which would collapse the global economy. Their advice? Keep kicking the can down the road like every administration before him.

Trump's response? "Watch me."

Instead of following their traditional playbook, he fought it differently, outmaneuvered the regime, and kept the Strait of Hormuz open, defying every expert prediction. He proved the establishment dead wrong on keeping the choke point open... but why didn't he do this during his last term?

What did Trump 47 see that 45, and everyone else in Washington, was blind to?
historian
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I have problems with that number too but I'm skeptical about most federal spending. $40 trillion in debt will do that.

I don't call you any names because I have no reason to. I suspect you are one of those in between. Most people are. Those labels were meant generally because the voices that we hear do often seem to fall in those categories.

“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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HuMcK said:

This has been one of Mike Flynn's pet projects for more than a decade now, and he came close to getting it in Trump's first term. It's not a surprise at all for the people that have been paying attention.

If BaylorFans was still around I'd be bumping old posts about it. MAGA didn't want to hear about it back then, and I'm sure they'll pretend not to notice it now.

Baylorfans makes me nostalgic... when I was at Baylor I would always jump between Baylorfans and Surlyhorns.

I remember there was a Baylor guy on Surlyhorns whose profile avatar pic was a photo of his wife's ass in a thong taken on their back patio... it was iconic... those were the days...
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