President Trump announces military strikes on Iran: Operation Epic Fury

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C. Jordan said:

boognish_bear said:




"The White House is "at a maximum level of frustration right now, and I was told by very senior people that the president is now fully aware that the only way to the victory that he wants is completely politically impossible. The American people just will not support the kind of escalation it would take at this point," said one person close to the White House, granted anonymity to discuss private conversations. "We've got more dead Americans and a politically impossible situation

The only way to achieve what Trump wants is to get boots on the ground. Which probably would make Iraq and Afghanistan pale in comparison. The American public wouldn't tolerate this.

For their part, the Iranians are also stuck.

A classic quagmire.

Yep. We kicked the Tar Baby.
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https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2026/07/24/selective-service-system-wants-to-wargame-the-draft/

Selective Service System wants to wargame the draft
Jul 24, 2026 at 10:16 AM

Fearing that its new plans for the U.S. military draft pool won't work, the Selective Service System wants to create a computer simulation to test scenarios for its national mobilization.

The "Readiness Simulation" project comes as the U.S. government is about to change its draft registration system.

Since 1940, men within a designated age range have been required to register with the Selective Service. But under a proposed rule, men aged 18 to 26 will be automatically registered starting Dec. 19, 2026. The Selective Service System will work off data contained in other federal databases.

Questions remain about how prepared the Selective Service System is to handle the change.

"SSS currently relies on manual analysis, legacy modeling approaches, outdated assumptions, and historical datasets that do not fully reflect modern demographics, communications channels, throughput constraints, or operational readiness conditions," warned the agency in a Request for Quote for the Readiness Simulation tool.

The deadline for vendors to propose their simulation models is Aug. 14.

The computer simulation will explore multiple areas. These include evaluating staffing and resource requirements, comparing mobilization and police scenarios and assessing the operational impact of surge conditions. In addition, the system will "identify throughput risks, delays, and bottlenecks" and support executive planning and reporting obligations.

The goal is a simulation system that "models the full end-to-end SSS mobilization pipeline, supports configurable scenarios, and provides decision-support analytics necessary for leadership, planners, and operators."

Scenarios will encompass draft registration, selection, notification, delivery and classification. They will also cover the Alternative Service Program, which includes various forms of community service as well as conscientious objectors.

Computer models will "represent MEPS [Military Entrance Processing Stations] throughput, no-shows, medical disqualification rates, claims processing, and ASP diversion," according to the Request for Quote.

Contractors must be prepared to run the Readiness Simulation while "recognizing that legacy SSS draft data may be outdated or unreliable," the agency said.

A draft registration system based on data compiled by and accessed from other federal agencies is likely to raise privacy concerns.

The computer simulation "shall operate within an SSS-designated cloud environment, use anonymized aggregate data, and support complete Government ownership and sustainment," the agency said.

The simulation must also comply with multiple privacy regulations.
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It's difficult to imagine any scenario today in which they would bring back the draft. It's idle speculation.
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Remember folks, there still is no cure for TDS.
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Realitybites
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(T)rump (D)isappointment (S)yndrome has a cure.

Simply admit you were wrong and vote to handcuff him in November. At this point divided government may be our only hope. That way they spend all their time fighting each other instead of betraying us.

And a tanker has turned back from the Bab-el-Mandeb strait, it appears as if now both the Persian Gulf and Red Sea are going to be closed.
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And some will protest that their Trump Derangement is something else.

Give generously to research, folks. VDR and/or RDR are likely incoming, in less than 2 years.
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historian said:

It's difficult to imagine any scenario today in which they would bring back the draft. It's idle speculation.


It was hard to imagine a lot of the stupid **** that is currently actually happening right now
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Oldbear83 said:

And some will protest that their Trump Derangement is something else.

Give generously to research, folks. VDR and/or RDR are likely incoming, in less than 2 years.


Oldbear, with all due respect at your age you really shouldn't be involved in decisions that effect the future. If you have young children who agree with your lunacy and want to throw away their future, that is their choice,,, but old men with very little time left shouldnt be making those decisions for any of us.
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The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

And some will protest that their Trump Derangement is something else.

Give generously to research, folks. VDR and/or RDR are likely incoming, in less than 2 years.


Oldbear, with all due respect at your age you really shouldn't be involved in decisions that effect the future. If you have young children who agree with your lunacy and want to throw away their future, that is their choice,,, but old men with very little time left shouldnt be making those decisions for any of us.

It's "affect."
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The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

And some will protest that their Trump Derangement is something else.

Give generously to research, folks. VDR and/or RDR are likely incoming, in less than 2 years.


Oldbear, with all due respect at your age you really shouldn't be involved in decisions that effect the future. If you have young children who agree with your lunacy and want to throw away their future, that is their choice,,, but old men with very little time left shouldnt be making those decisions for any of us.


Sorry, but your antiquated ideas that drive you most are not going to serve you or the rest of us well at all. Stick to complaining about the deficit spending and government stakes in private companies. The rest of your shtick is very old school.
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Oldbear83 said:

Remember folks, there still is no cure for TDS.

Remember folks there is no cure for lack of intellectual acuity and ability. Viva la Donnie. How's the war you old fool? You digging our dead? You digging starting a unilateral war that we have gotten embarrassed? You like the cost of this abortion? Enjoy your inflation and recession caused by Trump and Trump alone. "Art of the NO deal" chicken **** crazy con man.
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barBEARian, with all due tolerance for your clearly deficient comprehension of facts, you really shouldn't be involved in decisions that involve sentient adults. If you ever grow beyond the petty selfishness you so commonly display here, you will understand that serious matters are at stake and your snide derision for their valor only stains your character.

And I plan on outliving you. Seems the world has more use and purpose for someone who believes the USA is better than the insipid conspiracies which show up in your common utterances.

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" Remember folks there is no cure for lack of intellectual acuity and ability."

You certainly did well without them, it seems.
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canoso said:

The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

And some will protest that their Trump Derangement is something else.

Give generously to research, folks. VDR and/or RDR are likely incoming, in less than 2 years.


Oldbear, with all due respect at your age you really shouldn't be involved in decisions that effect the future. If you have young children who agree with your lunacy and want to throw away their future, that is their choice,,, but old men with very little time left shouldnt be making those decisions for any of us.

It's "affect."


Affect vs Effect has got to be the most asinine, cumbersome grammer rule in the English language. English is beautiful language but they dropped the ball on that one.
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The_barBEARian said:

canoso said:

The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

And some will protest that their Trump Derangement is something else.

Give generously to research, folks. VDR and/or RDR are likely incoming, in less than 2 years.


Oldbear, with all due respect at your age you really shouldn't be involved in decisions that effect the future. If you have young children who agree with your lunacy and want to throw away their future, that is their choice,,, but old men with very little time left shouldnt be making those decisions for any of us. Since you correctly spelled "asinine," you can learn and apply the difference.

It's "affect."


Affect vs Effect has got to be the most asinine, cumbersome grammer rule in the English language. English is beautiful language but they dropped the ball on that one.

It's "grammar," and it affects "meaning." As far as cumbersome, that's only to lightweights. Which reminds us that post-literacy and functional illiteracy are indistinguishable.
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Oldbear83 said:

And some will protest that their Trump Derangement is something else.

Give generously to research, folks. VDR and/or RDR are likely incoming, in less than 2 years.


Who won the 2020 election?
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quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

And some will protest that their Trump Derangement is something else.

Give generously to research, folks. VDR and/or RDR are likely incoming, in less than 2 years.


Who won the 2020 election?

Not the American people, if you mean the White House race.
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canoso said:

The_barBEARian said:

canoso said:

The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

And some will protest that their Trump Derangement is something else.

Give generously to research, folks. VDR and/or RDR are likely incoming, in less than 2 years.


Oldbear, with all due respect at your age you really shouldn't be involved in decisions that effect the future. If you have young children who agree with your lunacy and want to throw away their future, that is their choice,,, but old men with very little time left shouldnt be making those decisions for any of us. Since you correctly spelled "asinine," you can learn and apply the difference.

It's "affect."


Affect vs Effect has got to be the most asinine, cumbersome grammer rule in the English language. English is beautiful language but they dropped the ball on that one.

It's "grammar," and it affects "meaning." As far as cumbersome, that's only to lightweights. Which reminds us that post-literacy and functional illiteracy are indistinguishable.


I agree with you.

I actually appreciate people who correct my grammar and my spelling even if it wasnt intended to be instructive but more derisive. If I was walking around with my fly open, I would want someone to let me know. So thank you!

But Affect vs Effect is still poor design in my humble lightweight opinion.
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boognish_bear said:




They didnt miss! They meant to hit that girl's school! The old Israel First vampires are enthralled by the bloodletting of children.
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historian said:

It's difficult to imagine any scenario today in which they would bring back the draft. It's idle speculation.

It's the scenario where we either bring back the draft or lose the war. Completely predictable and predicted.
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No way a draft is coming. Trump and America don't have the stomach for a huge ground invasion that would result in thousands of American deaths. Plus, it would be like Afghanistan and even worse. We would have to leave troops there forever, and continue to suffer casualties.

I wish we had a draft. That would really cut down on our military adventures. The draft was one of the big reasons the Vietnam War was so unpopular.

Frankly, I don't know how this war ends. And neither does Trump. Which has been the problem ever since his initial plan to try a large attack that would topple the government failed.

Probably his best path forward is to try to gather allies in addition to Israel to at least get the Strait reopened. But he's shown no interest in that or ability to do it.

I am certain that whatever we have at the end will not be near as good as what Obama achieved.
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boognish_bear said:



That's incredible to watch. To think we did a 180 not because of anything we learned about Iran, no new development, but Israel asked us to ride along to war. And then they told us this.
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Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

It's difficult to imagine any scenario today in which they would bring back the draft. It's idle speculation.

It's the scenario where we either bring back the draft or lose the war. Completely predictable and predicted.

That's a huge stretch and we are nowhere near that point now.
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Yeah, a completely asinine take lol but I expect nothing less from Hamas Harry aka Sam LOUSERY
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historian said:

Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

It's difficult to imagine any scenario today in which they would bring back the draft. It's idle speculation.

It's the scenario where we either bring back the draft or lose the war. Completely predictable and predicted.

That's a huge stretch and we are nowhere near that point now.


Not only is it a huge stretch now, it is a huge stretch for virtually any scenario. Military force no longer depends on large numbers of soldiers slogging through trenches or storming beaches.
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Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

It's difficult to imagine any scenario today in which they would bring back the draft. It's idle speculation.

It's the scenario where we either bring back the draft or lose the war. Completely predictable and predicted.


We're not in a completely unsustainable war like your beloved Russia is.
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Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

And some will protest that their Trump Derangement is something else.

Give generously to research, folks. VDR and/or RDR are likely incoming, in less than 2 years.


Who won the 2020 election?

Not the American people, if you mean the White House race.


Once again the diagnostic tool reveals TDS.

The answer was "Joe Biden" and the underanged can say that
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trey3216 said:

Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

It's difficult to imagine any scenario today in which they would bring back the draft. It's idle speculation.

It's the scenario where we either bring back the draft or lose the war. Completely predictable and predicted.


We're not in a completely unsustainable war like your beloved Russia is.

The money part of it is absolutely unsustainable. This war will cost around 1tn per year. We couldn't afford our lifestyle before the war, in my opinion. Adding 100bn/month is more than a drop in the bucket. It is our children being bankrupted even more, and for longer.
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quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

And some will protest that their Trump Derangement is something else.

Give generously to research, folks. VDR and/or RDR are likely incoming, in less than 2 years.


Who won the 2020 election?

Not the American people, if you mean the White House race.


Once again the diagnostic tool reveals TDS.

The answer was "Joe Biden" and the underanged can say that


Some might make the argument that "not the American people" and "Joe Biden" are analogues when it comes to who won the 2020 election. Of course, if Trump had won, he would be a former president by now, and some might consider that a win as well.
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quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

And some will protest that their Trump Derangement is something else.

Give generously to research, folks. VDR and/or RDR are likely incoming, in less than 2 years.


Who won the 2020 election?

Not the American people, if you mean the White House race.


Once again the diagnostic tool reveals TDS.

The answer was "Joe Biden" and the underanged can say that


My answer was completely valid, especially in response to your tactics.

Legally yes, the 2020 Presidential election was won by Biden as soon as enough states certified the election.

That in no way clears up a ton of valid concerns.

You may also note that my answer did not claim Trump won that election. I think a lot of reasonable people wished for a better option than those two codgers. Part of the point you ducked in your snide jube, by the way.

Think about 2028. Why does the field look like this now? Because of what we saw in the last three Presidential elections. Are you happy with that condition?
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