I know he had a balanced budget, everywhere in Europe i went they loved him and America, economy boomed and he got us in and out of Serbia. Pretty good compared to the clown we have now ...

FLBear5630 said:

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Yeah, your a ray of Sunshine j

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Compared to you? Soitenly!

FLBear5630 said:

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I know he had a balanced budget, everywhere in Europe i went they loved him and America, economy boomed and he got us in and out of Serbia. Pretty good compared to the clown we have now ...

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Amazing how some people can forget whatever they want.

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Oldbear83 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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I notice YOU have no qualms about tossing out claims with nothing but your spite and a bad smell behind them

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What claims? It is a message board, the whole thing is opinions. And you don't think twice about pontificating your opinions at nauseum.

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Mine are pro-US and generally optimistic.

Yours are dismal and sometimes defecatory.

You are much better when discussing religion than when discussing human behavior.

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Your opinions during the Biden presidency?

Uh huh.

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Again, pro-US and generally optimistic.

Even during the Pen.

FLBear5630 said:

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And listens to Def Leopard...

A tough combo to beat... Well, Millennial , what you got?

10 year Vet that listens to Def Leopard, you beat that?

If he drives American Muscle and carries, gonna be tough.

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Unless we're discussing a hearing impaired big cat, it is Leppard...and if we were, it would be Deaf.

This doenst necessarily fit this thread… But I thought it was interesting and not sure where else to put it

Complete with a fake town and Ice Cream Parlor, in 1944 the Allies secretly laid flexible pipelines in the English Channel under the code name Operation Pluto to keep fuel flowing after the Normandy landings.

These lines, based on adapted submarine cable technology and spooled… pic.twitter.com/RFMHxlbbLw

— Aviation Archive - Tim Farmer (@aviationarchive) July 27, 2026

Complete with a fake town and Ice Cream Parlor, in 1944 the Allies secretly laid flexible pipelines in the English Channel under the code name Operation Pluto to keep fuel flowing after the Normandy landings.

These lines, based on adapted submarine cable technology and spooled out from special ships and giant floating reels called Conundrums, ran from England to ports like Cherbourg and later Boulogne.

Pumping stations on the English coast were hidden in plain sight, disguised as ordinary seaside bungalows, cottages, and even Brown's Ice Cream Parlor so German reconnaissance would see nothing but a quiet holiday town.

By early 1945 the network was pumping nearly a million gallons of gasoline a day, and by VE Day it had carried well over 170 million gallons across the water, helping keep Allied tanks and trucks moving all the way into Germany.

Russian T-80BVM tank (cost ≈ $4 million) destroyed by a $500 Ukrainian drone.

FPV drones are reshaping modern warfare. pic.twitter.com/NFqBta0z7j

— WarRoom Archives (@WarRoomArchives) July 27, 2026

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FLBear5630 said:

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And listens to Def Leopard...

A tough combo to beat... Well, Millennial , what you got?

10 year Vet that listens to Def Leopard, you beat that?

If he drives American Muscle and carries, gonna be tough.

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Unless we're discussing a hearing impaired big cat, it is Leppard...and if we were, it would be Deaf.

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Got me, the spelling correct changed it and i didnt catch it. The whole point is null and void. You get a point and I lose one....

President Trump turns on Benjamin Netanyahu just hours before their meeting, saying he does not need Netanyahu to tell him anything and that Netanyahu only wants the United States to stay involved in the war against Iran.

Trump says he doesn’t need Israeli intelligence because… pic.twitter.com/jztQ3Wsryi

— Shadow of Ezra (@ShadowofEzra) July 28, 2026

President Trump turns on Benjamin Netanyahu just hours before their meeting, saying he does not need Netanyahu to tell him anything and that Netanyahu only wants the United States to stay involved in the war against Iran.

Trump says he doesn't need Israeli intelligence because he has the Space Force, which knows exactly what's going on.

"Bibi is telling me that because he wants me to stay involved."

boognish_bear said:

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President Trump turns on Benjamin Netanyahu just hours before their meeting, saying he does not need Netanyahu to tell him anything and that Netanyahu only wants the United States to stay involved in the war against Iran.

Trump says he doesn’t need Israeli intelligence because… pic.twitter.com/jztQ3Wsryi

— Shadow of Ezra (@ShadowofEzra) July 28, 2026

President Trump turns on Benjamin Netanyahu just hours before their meeting, saying he does not need Netanyahu to tell him anything and that Netanyahu only wants the United States to stay involved in the war against Iran.

Trump says he doesn't need Israeli intelligence because he has the Space Force, which knows exactly what's going on.

"Bibi is telling me that because he wants me to stay involved."

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We need to keep their puppeteer away from our puppet.

Ya'll liberals said he was in Israel's pocket? You all are wrong alot.

Trump:

“I terminated the horrible deal made by Obama. The worst dumbass deal… Frankly, if I were not President of the U.S., Israel today would not exist.” pic.twitter.com/JOkfXq47wZ

— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) July 28, 2026

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FLBear5630 said:

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I know he had a balanced budget, everywhere in Europe i went they loved him and America, economy boomed and he got us in and out of Serbia. Pretty good compared to the clown we have now ...

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Pretty low bar, don't you think?

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At one time I considered you one of the most objective posters on this board. Not sure what happened.

JUST IN: 🇺🇸🇮🇷 President Trump says if Iran doesn't make a deal with US, he will destroy their bridges and power plants.

— BRICS News (@BRICSinfo) July 28, 2026

Zelensky on the meeting with Trump at the White House:

"A good meeting with President Trump in the Oval Office. Thank you for everything we are doing together to protect Ukrainian lives and achieve peace. First of all, I expressed our condolences to President Trump on the death… pic.twitter.com/swIsc8OSEA

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) July 28, 2026

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Ya'll liberals said he was in Israel's pocket? You all are wrong alot.

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He's mad because he got played like a *****. He knows the time 6 months too late.

CNN: Voters now trust Republicans more on Iran

Trust on Iran:
April: 🔵 Democrats +2
Now: 🔴 Republicans +2 pic.twitter.com/GXgAADLwck

— OSZ (@OpenSourceZone) July 27, 2026

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D. C. Bear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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I know he had a balanced budget, everywhere in Europe i went they loved him and America, economy boomed and he got us in and out of Serbia. Pretty good compared to the clown we have now ...

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Pretty low bar, don't you think?

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At one time I considered you one of the most objective posters on this board. Not sure what happened.

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D.C. still is. Clinton went in to office in a historically opportune time for a president.
He had a Republican House that set him up well economically at the start.
The Soviet Union was dead, and Russia was busy reforming itself.
The .com wave was coming online.

Clinton's main job was to stay out of the way of good times progress.

His major policy failure was not dealing with Al Qaeda firmly after the first bombing attempt in New York.
His failure to keep his private life out of the Oval Office and away from work relationships is well known.

Warfare has changed so much. I don't know how they continue to find soldiers willing to go out on the front lines against these drones.

Petraeus: The death zone in Ukraine extends 35 kilometers on either side of the front lines — defined by drone battery life. Tanks can't survive. Armored vehicles can't survive. Nothing can.

Neither side even drives vehicles anymore. Russians keep trying and keep proving it.… pic.twitter.com/jffabp5WuP

— Roman Sheremeta 🇺🇸🇺🇦 (@rshereme) July 28, 2026

Petraeus: The death zone in Ukraine extends 35 kilometers on either side of the front lines defined by drone battery life. Tanks can't survive. Armored vehicles can't survive. Nothing can.

Neither side even drives vehicles anymore. Russians keep trying and keep proving it.

Petraeus: No trenches drones fly through. Soldiers in survivability positions hundreds of meters apart, not mutually supporting. Resupplied by ground robots.

Commanders can't visit the front line. Soldiers stay 60+ days. In urban areas, some couldn't be extracted for months.

Petraeus: Russian advances mean individual soldiers running forward trying to dig in. Drone units pick them up immediately, cycle surveillance drones, then FPV attack drones arrive.

You see them hitting around the soldier in the woods until one connects. It doesn't end well.

Petraeus: Ukraine is about to isolate Crimea. Gasoline so short they won't sell it to civilians. Tourists who came for beaches are trying to get home any way they can.

Kerch Bridge rail no longer works. Ferries knocked out. Land bridges destroyed. Pontoon bridges now targeted.

Petraeus: Ukraine took down Russia's air defenses steadily. Russia pulls them to Moscow vulnerabilities open everywhere else. Moscow refinery hit three nights running, out at least six months.

They're going after fuel storage, refineries, gas lines from Siberia to the west.

Petraeus: Real prospect now that Putin might need a cessation of hostilities himself. Oil sanctions reimposed, national welfare fund running out of money.

Crimea isolated, front lines cut off, economy crushed all of this could force Putin to recognize he should end this war.

Source: text of Tymofiy Milovanov

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FLBear5630 said:

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I know he had a balanced budget, everywhere in Europe i went they loved him and America, economy boomed and he got us in and out of Serbia. Pretty good compared to the clown we have now ...

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Pretty low bar, don't you think?

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At one time I considered you one of the most objective posters on this board. Not sure what happened.

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D.C. still is. Clinton went in to office in a historically opportune time for a president.
He had a Republican House that set him up well economically at the start.
The Soviet Union was dead, and Russia was busy reforming itself.
The .com wave was coming online.

Clinton's main job was to stay out of the way of good times progress.

His major policy failure was not dealing with Al Qaeda firmly after the first bombing attempt in New York.
His failure to keep his private life out of the Oval Office and away from work relationships is well known.

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Clinton supported the investigation and they prosecuted those that did it. Then in 1998, Clinton used cruise missiles on Al Queda (Infinite Reach). Not exactly ignoring.

As for the other, nobody here said he was perfect. Nobody bats 1000, even Reagan had Iran-Contra and paid the Iranians. Overall, Clinton did a good job and left "W" with a good hand.

Give me the personal sexual failings over the public ones any day.

FLBear5630 said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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I know he had a balanced budget, everywhere in Europe i went they loved him and America, economy boomed and he got us in and out of Serbia. Pretty good compared to the clown we have now ...

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Pretty low bar, don't you think?

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At one time I considered you one of the most objective posters on this board. Not sure what happened.

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D.C. still is. Clinton went in to office in a historically opportune time for a president.
He had a Republican House that set him up well economically at the start.
The Soviet Union was dead, and Russia was busy reforming itself.
The .com wave was coming online.

Clinton's main job was to stay out of the way of good times progress.

His major policy failure was not dealing with Al Qaeda firmly after the first bombing attempt in New York.
His failure to keep his private life out of the Oval Office and away from work relationships is well known.

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Clinton supported the investigation and they prosecuted those that did it. Then in 1998, Clinton used cruise missiles on Al Queda (Infinite Reach). Not exactly ignoring.

As for the other, nobody here said he was perfect. Nobody bats 1000, even Reagan had Iran-Contra and paid the Iranians. Overall, Clinton did a good job and left "W" with a good hand.

Give me the personal sexual failings over the public ones any day.

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Calvin Coolidge did a good job of staying out of the way as well.

Give the man his due. He did more than stay out of the way.

Just like Trump gets high marks for closing the border, I may not like Trump but he did a good job on the border.