Realitybites said:

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Married A Horn said:

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Absolutely. The 3-D multi generational chess move Trump has played against China is the most America 1st thing I've seen in ages.

On the surface:
We got rid of a Narco-Terrorist (while getting China's influence out of the Western Hemisphere.)
We are getting rid of a regime that vows death to America and funds terrorism through its proxies.

What is really going on:
China and Russia have lost their source of heavily discounted black market oil from Venezuela and Iran. China just became insanely less competitive and influencial in the world economy in the matter of a month or so.

What you dont know:
The petrodollar has been re-cemented in world markets. China has been trying for decades to cause the USA to lose 'world reserve currency' status. They way they were doing it was to begin trading oil in currencies other than the US Dollar. Epic Fury undid every single bit of progress China had made as all the other actors in the region have gone back to 100% support for the petrodollar.

Trump is absolutely destroying our primary enemy: China.

Democrats in here arent worth talking to. Republicans however need to see how big this is for America and how it is hugely an America First move!

Level 500IQ move from Trump!

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I have heard this case made. It makes no sense unless you are willing to ban trade with China first. Making a move directly at our primary geopolitical rival when the vast majority of our medications and the ingredients for them originate there is silly. The overwhelming majority of our consumer goods still come from there. Any move against Chinese hegemony must have as its foundation ending trade with that country.

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We dont need to ban trading with them. We need to level the playing field. This is leveling the playing field. Which in turn will keep us at the top of the economic food chain for a very long time.

RAW.

- UF

{ sipping coffee }

BaylorFTW said:

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Time for a roll call. Do you support the war in Iran? Why or why not?

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Once the first bomb dropped and Israel killed the Iranian leadership, we are committed.

Have to finish it, period. There is no going back. Killing the Ayatollah was a line that means we have to finish. Period. So, yes I support it and everything that comes with it. I can see some boots on the ground in str

What we do need is to make sure that we can shift to producing replacements for equipment and munitions to keep China and North Korea at bay. If the Fed needs to hire more contract managers and procurement people back after DOGE, do it. We need to ramp up munitions, hardening of infrastructure and counterterrorism now.

The area I want to see out of the Trump Administration is the follow up actions, across the board, to support not only what is going on in the Middle East, but all the steps to maintaining our presence in the World.

We are now active in the Middle East, Pacific and South America. That is going to require a commitment.

Can Miller and Company come up with more than just big ideas?


(Not being negative or criticizing)

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Amazing to me that a tiny country of not even 10 million people has suddenly been made out to be the Great Satan and Goliath by many in the United States. Kind of like an elephant being terrified of a mouse. Apparently it is now "cool" to be anti-Semitic on both extreme ends of the political spectrum. Not sure now we got here. Embarrassing.

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11 Nukes - plus however many more they would have been able to produce - are a Force Multiplier ... esp in the hands of a fatalist Death Cult.

- UF

D!

{ sipping covfefe }

GrowlTowel said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Amazing to me that a tiny country of not even 10 million people has suddenly been made out to be the Great Satan and Goliath by many in the United States. Kind of like an elephant being terrified of a mouse. Apparently it is now "cool" to be anti-Semitic on both extreme ends of the political spectrum. Not sure now we got here. Embarrassing.

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Suddenly? Every president since Carter has been warning us about Iran.

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The 10_million people I was referring to was Israel, not Iran. Iran has around 92 million people.

Israel bashing seems to have become very popular in the U.S. in recent years.

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Amazing to me that a tiny country of not even 10 million people has suddenly been made out to be the Great Satan and Goliath by many in the United States. Kind of like an elephant being terrified of a mouse. Apparently it is now "cool" to be anti-Semitic on both extreme ends of the political spectrum. Not sure now we got here. Embarrassing.

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Suddenly? Every president since Carter has been warning us about Iran.

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The 10_million people I was referring to was Israel, not Iran. Iran has around 92 million people.

Israel bashing seems to have become very popular in the U.S. in recent years.

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Go Spray for Bugs, Sissy.....

- UF

D!

william said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Amazing to me that a tiny country of not even 10 million people has suddenly been made out to be the Great Satan and Goliath by many in the United States. Kind of like an elephant being terrified of a mouse. Apparently it is now "cool" to be anti-Semitic on both extreme ends of the political spectrum. Not sure now we got here. Embarrassing.

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Suddenly? Every president since Carter has been warning us about Iran.

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The 10_million people I was referring to was Israel, not Iran. Iran has around 92 million people.

Israel bashing seems to have become very popular in the U.S. in recent years.

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Go Spray for Bugs, Sissy.....

- UF*

D!

* The Human Corvair

Incoming!!

{ Tiny adorable BHJ taking cover under The Ottoman** }

** Hidden meaning, Tiny man??

{ UF lobs dry board eraser at the cowering BHJ }

DEVELOPING!!!

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FLBear5630 said:

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BaylorFTW said:

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Time for a roll call. Do you support the war in Iran? Why or why not?

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Once the first bomb dropped and Israel killed the Iranian leadership, we are committed.

Have to finish it, period. There is no going back. Killing the Ayatollah was a line that means we have to finish. Period. So, yes I support it and everything that comes with it. I can see some boots on the ground in str

What we do need is to make sure that we can shift to producing replacements for equipment and munitions to keep China and North Korea at bay. If the Fed needs to hire more contract managers and procurement people back after DOGE, do it. We need to ramp up munitions, hardening of infrastructure and counterterrorism now.

The area I want to see out of the Trump Administration is the follow up actions, across the board, to support not only what is going on in the Middle East, but all the steps to maintaining our presence in the World.

We are now active in the Middle East, Pacific and South America. That is going to require a commitment.

Can Miller and Company come up with more than just big ideas?


(Not being negative or criticizing)

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Our ability to quickly replenish munitions is key!

FLBear5630 said:

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BaylorFTW said:

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Time for a roll call. Do you support the war in Iran? Why or why not?

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What we do need is to make sure that we can shift to producing replacements for equipment and munitions to keep China and North Korea at bay. If the Fed needs to hire more contract managers and procurement people back after DOGE, do it. We need to ramp up munitions, hardening of infrastructure and counterterrorism now.

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Too late. We've gone through years of production of air defense munitions in just the last few days.

Sam Lowry said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BaylorFTW said:

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Time for a roll call. Do you support the war in Iran? Why or why not?

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What we do need is to make sure that we can shift to producing replacements for equipment and munitions to keep China and North Korea at bay. If the Fed needs to hire more contract managers and procurement people back after DOGE, do it. We need to ramp up munitions, hardening of infrastructure and counterterrorism now.

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Too late. We've gone through years of production of air defense munitions in just the last few days.

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That is why there must be changes around the Government to respond to what the Administration is doing. It should first start with all new production stays in US. Then incentivize to up production.

For some industries, we will need to go to a war footing. Not a negative, a reality of the world we live in and the actions we are now engaged.

The Pentagon knows how to do this and I am sure the contracts are in place. The question is will they be allowed to? Trump wants to declare something an National Emergency, allow the Pentagon to use the sole source contracts they have to get these munitions replaced and make sure the Pacific is under control. Hire back those that know what they are doing. There is more to fighting a war than infantry and intelligence. The infrastructure that supports it is just as important.

For example, it takes 2,200 civilian employees to support the F-35 program worldwide, as well as 12 Airmen per plane. For every combat soldier in the field, it takes 8 personnel to support. That is why those that say only people that fight count have no idea what it takes to put one Ranger in the field or support 1 SEAL team. It is not a vacuum. Or that Federal employees aren't serving, that is BS.

What the US does better than ANYONE is logistics. Let them do it military and civilian.

FLBear5630 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BaylorFTW said:

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Time for a roll call. Do you support the war in Iran? Why or why not?

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What we do need is to make sure that we can shift to producing replacements for equipment and munitions to keep China and North Korea at bay. If the Fed needs to hire more contract managers and procurement people back after DOGE, do it. We need to ramp up munitions, hardening of infrastructure and counterterrorism now.

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Too late. We've gone through years of production of air defense munitions in just the last few days.

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That is why there must be changes around the Government to respond to what the Administration is doing. It should first start with all new production stays in US. Then incentivize to up production.

For some industries, we will need to go to a war footing. Not a negative, a reality of the world we live in and the actions we are now engaged.

The Pentagon knows how to do this and I am sure the contracts are in place. The question is will they be allowed to? Trump wants to declare something an National Emergency, allow the Pentagon to use the sole source contracts they have to get these munitions replaced and make sure the Pacific is under control. Hire back those that know what they are doing. There is more to fighting a war than infantry and intelligence. The infrastructure that supports it is just as important.

For example, it takes 2,200 civilian employees to support the F-35 program worldwide, as well as 12 Airmen per plane. For every combat soldier in the field, it takes 8 personnel to support. That is why those that say only people that fight count have no idea what it takes to put one Ranger in the field or support 1 SEAL team. It is not a vacuum. Or that Federal employees aren't serving, that is BS.

What the US does better than ANYONE is logistics. Let them do it military and civilian.

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Just saw this and texted to my daughter, who is working 12hr night shifts so the marrieds won't have to.

whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BaylorFTW said:

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Time for a roll call. Do you support the war in Iran? Why or why not?

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What we do need is to make sure that we can shift to producing replacements for equipment and munitions to keep China and North Korea at bay. If the Fed needs to hire more contract managers and procurement people back after DOGE, do it. We need to ramp up munitions, hardening of infrastructure and counterterrorism now.

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Too late. We've gone through years of production of air defense munitions in just the last few days.

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That is why there must be changes around the Government to respond to what the Administration is doing. It should first start with all new production stays in US. Then incentivize to up production.

For some industries, we will need to go to a war footing. Not a negative, a reality of the world we live in and the actions we are now engaged.

The Pentagon knows how to do this and I am sure the contracts are in place. The question is will they be allowed to? Trump wants to declare something an National Emergency, allow the Pentagon to use the sole source contracts they have to get these munitions replaced and make sure the Pacific is under control. Hire back those that know what they are doing. There is more to fighting a war than infantry and intelligence. The infrastructure that supports it is just as important.

For example, it takes 2,200 civilian employees to support the F-35 program worldwide, as well as 12 Airmen per plane. For every combat soldier in the field, it takes 8 personnel to support. That is why those that say only people that fight count have no idea what it takes to put one Ranger in the field or support 1 SEAL team. It is not a vacuum. Or that Federal employees aren't serving, that is BS.

What the US does better than ANYONE is logistics. Let them do it military and civilian.

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Just saw this and texted to my daughter, who is working 12hr night shifts so the marrieds won't have to.

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I am with you. if you are going to do it. Do it, all the way.

If not, don't act like you are. Obama never learned that.

As I sent you earlier, Godspeed to your daughter.

Sam Lowry said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BaylorFTW said:

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Time for a roll call. Do you support the war in Iran? Why or why not?

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What we do need is to make sure that we can shift to producing replacements for equipment and munitions to keep China and North Korea at bay. If the Fed needs to hire more contract managers and procurement people back after DOGE, do it. We need to ramp up munitions, hardening of infrastructure and counterterrorism now.

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Too late. We've gone through years of production of air defense munitions in just the last few days.

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Iran has had years to manufacture, purchase and stockpile missles.

I think we are way behind in production of the munitions needed.

We have the quality but not the quantity.

Bomb bomb bomb Iran

FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BaylorFTW said:

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Time for a roll call. Do you support the war in Iran? Why or why not?

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What we do need is to make sure that we can shift to producing replacements for equipment and munitions to keep China and North Korea at bay. If the Fed needs to hire more contract managers and procurement people back after DOGE, do it. We need to ramp up munitions, hardening of infrastructure and counterterrorism now.

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Too late. We've gone through years of production of air defense munitions in just the last few days.

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That is why there must be changes around the Government to respond to what the Administration is doing. It should first start with all new production stays in US. Then incentivize to up production.

For some industries, we will need to go to a war footing. Not a negative, a reality of the world we live in and the actions we are now engaged.

The Pentagon knows how to do this and I am sure the contracts are in place. The question is will they be allowed to? Trump wants to declare something an National Emergency, allow the Pentagon to use the sole source contracts they have to get these munitions replaced and make sure the Pacific is under control. Hire back those that know what they are doing. There is more to fighting a war than infantry and intelligence. The infrastructure that supports it is just as important.

For example, it takes 2,200 civilian employees to support the F-35 program worldwide, as well as 12 Airmen per plane. For every combat soldier in the field, it takes 8 personnel to support. That is why those that say only people that fight count have no idea what it takes to put one Ranger in the field or support 1 SEAL team. It is not a vacuum. Or that Federal employees aren't serving, that is BS.

What the US does better than ANYONE is logistics. Let them do it military and civilian.

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Just saw this and texted to my daughter, who is working 12hr night shifts so the marrieds won't have to.

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I am with you. if you are going to do it. Do it, all the way.

If not, don't act like you are. Obama never learned that.

As I sent you earlier, Godspeed to your daughter.

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^^^
What he said

LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BaylorFTW said:

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Time for a roll call. Do you support the war in Iran? Why or why not?

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What we do need is to make sure that we can shift to producing replacements for equipment and munitions to keep China and North Korea at bay. If the Fed needs to hire more contract managers and procurement people back after DOGE, do it. We need to ramp up munitions, hardening of infrastructure and counterterrorism now.

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Too late. We've gone through years of production of air defense munitions in just the last few days.

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Iran has had years to manufacture, purchase and stockpile missles.

I think we are way behind in production of the munitions needed.

We have the quality but not the quantity.

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Besides Drones and Cyber, Iran's equipment is not on par with NATO. Not as bad as Iraq's was, but not equal to the task at hand.

FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BaylorFTW said:

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Time for a roll call. Do you support the war in Iran? Why or why not?

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What we do need is to make sure that we can shift to producing replacements for equipment and munitions to keep China and North Korea at bay. If the Fed needs to hire more contract managers and procurement people back after DOGE, do it. We need to ramp up munitions, hardening of infrastructure and counterterrorism now.

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Too late. We've gone through years of production of air defense munitions in just the last few days.

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That is why there must be changes around the Government to respond to what the Administration is doing. It should first start with all new production stays in US. Then incentivize to up production.

For some industries, we will need to go to a war footing. Not a negative, a reality of the world we live in and the actions we are now engaged.

The Pentagon knows how to do this and I am sure the contracts are in place. The question is will they be allowed to? Trump wants to declare something an National Emergency, allow the Pentagon to use the sole source contracts they have to get these munitions replaced and make sure the Pacific is under control. Hire back those that know what they are doing. There is more to fighting a war than infantry and intelligence. The infrastructure that supports it is just as important.

For example, it takes 2,200 civilian employees to support the F-35 program worldwide, as well as 12 Airmen per plane. For every combat soldier in the field, it takes 8 personnel to support. That is why those that say only people that fight count have no idea what it takes to put one Ranger in the field or support 1 SEAL team. It is not a vacuum. Or that Federal employees aren't serving, that is BS.

What the US does better than ANYONE is logistics. Let them do it military and civilian.

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Just saw this and texted to my daughter, who is working 12hr night shifts so the marrieds won't have to.

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I am with you. if you are going to do it. Do it, all the way.

If not, don't act like you are. Obama never learned that.

As I sent you earlier, Godspeed to your daughter.

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Yes, the support needed for every warrior is often forgotten by the average citizen.
Growing up in San Antonio, I was very aware. We did school visits to Lackland and Kelly bases. The amount of personnel needed to keep our military mobile is amazing.

This is why the entire nation should be demanding that the democrats stop the ridiculous shutdown immediately! Civilian support and logistic contracts are directly affected by such shutdowns, which puts our servicemen at much greater risk.

ShooterTX said:

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Wow.

I had no idea that there was a declaration of war already. I don't support the declaration of war, but I do support the destruction of the evil leadership of Iran and their miliary assets.

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You're playing semantics. When the bomb comes through your window, you do not not die because there's no declaration of war. The girls at the Iranian school don't get a do-over until war is declared.

Mitch Blood Green said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Wow.

I had no idea that there was a declaration of war already. I don't support the declaration of war, but I do support the destruction of the evil leadership of Iran and their miliary assets.

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You're playing semantics. When the bomb comes through your window, you do not not die because there's no declaration of war. The girls at the Iranian school don't get a do-over until war is declared.

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The girls were killed by the Iranians. Are you unaware of this?

None of these actions would have occurred if the Iranian leadership had not be an evil, terrorist regime.

Blaming anyone other than the Ayatollah for this attack, is just a ridiculous farce.