I would deny it to if I were in your shoes, but everyone knows you've never been a conservative.

You're Catholic who purports to be against abortion (though you don't vote that way). Congrats.

Mothra said:

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I would deny it to if I were in your shoes, but everyone knows you've never been a conservative.

You're Catholic who purports to be against abortion (though you don't vote that way). Congrats.

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Weird post. Of course I vote that way, if I vote.

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A report released by the Foundation for Defense of Democracies

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Post Covid, anytime I see something like this the first thing I want to know is who is paying for the report. Then you can determine how much creedence to give it.

Sam Lowry said:

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Mothra said:

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I would deny it to if I were in your shoes, but everyone knows you've never been a conservative.

You're Catholic who purports to be against abortion (though you don't vote that way). Congrats.

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Weird post. Of course I vote that way, if I vote.

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The last three words of your post are the point. You don't vote. You're perfectly fine with pro-abortion candidates getting elected.

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A report released by the Foundation for Defense of Democracies

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Post Covid, anytime I see something like this the first thing I want to know is who is paying for the report. Then you can determine how much creedence to give it.

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It's on the department of defense's website as well.

Never heard of him.

Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Mothra said:

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I would deny it to if I were in your shoes, but everyone knows you've never been a conservative.

You're Catholic who purports to be against abortion (though you don't vote that way). Congrats.

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Weird post. Of course I vote that way, if I vote.

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The last three words of your post are the point. You don't vote. You're perfectly fine with pro-abortion candidates getting elected.

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That's a stance I always thought was absurd, the notion that if you don't vote but could, you are absolved of responsibility for the outcome of that election. Morally along the lines of thinking if you see a crime but ignore it you are innocent.

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Mothra said:

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Mothra said:

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I would deny it to if I were in your shoes, but everyone knows you've never been a conservative.

You're Catholic who purports to be against abortion (though you don't vote that way). Congrats.

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Weird post. Of course I vote that way, if I vote.

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The last three words of your post are the point. You don't vote. You're perfectly fine with pro-abortion candidates getting elected.

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That's a stance I always thought was absurd, the notion that if you don't vote but could, you are absolved of responsibility for the outcome of that election. Morally along the lines of thinking if you see a crime but ignore it you are innocent.

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Yup. Said this for years.

It makes sense only in Sam's mind.

Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Mothra said:

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I would deny it to if I were in your shoes, but everyone knows you've never been a conservative.

You're Catholic who purports to be against abortion (though you don't vote that way). Congrats.

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Weird post. Of course I vote that way, if I vote.

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The last three words of your post are the point. You don't vote. You're perfectly fine with pro-abortion candidates getting elected.

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Incorrect.

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Realitybites said:

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A report released by the Foundation for Defense of Democracies

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Post Covid, anytime I see something like this the first thing I want to know is who is paying for the report. Then you can determine how much creedence to give it.

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It's on the department of defense's website as well.

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So lets take a look.

"The Foundation for Defense of Democracies (FDD) is a neoconservative 501(c)(3) non-profit think tank based in Washington, D.C., United States. It has been described as a pro-Israel, pro-Ukraine, anti-Iran lobby group...

...FDD was founded in 2001 as "Emet" (), which is Hebrew for "truth". In the initial documents filed for tax-exempt status with the Internal Revenue Service, FDD's stated mission was to "provide education to enhance Israel's image in North America and the public's understanding of issues affecting Israeli-Arab relations". Its mission broadened after the September 11 attacks in 2001. Later documents described its mission as "to conduct research and provide education on international terrorism and related issues".

John Mearsheimer in 2007, Muhammad Idrees Ahmad in 2014, and Ofira Seliktar in 2018 have described FDD as part of the Israel lobby in the United States

Sima Vaknin-Gil, director general of Israel's Ministry of Strategic Affairs, stated that the FDD works in conjunction with the Israeli government, including the ministry."

So yeah, the usual constellation of suspects.

I'm telling you, you need to abandon this quest to turn the GOP into a Hebrew Roots party. There are a lot of people who aren't onboard with that mission.

Realitybites said:

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Realitybites said:

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Quote:

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A report released by the Foundation for Defense of Democracies

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Post Covid, anytime I see something like this the first thing I want to know is who is paying for the report. Then you can determine how much creedence to give it.

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It's on the department of defense's website as well.

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So lets take a look.

"The Foundation for Defense of Democracies (FDD) is a neoconservative 501(c)(3) non-profit think tank based in Washington, D.C., United States. It has been described as a pro-Israel, pro-Ukraine, anti-Iran lobby group...

...FDD was founded in 2001 as "Emet" (), which is Hebrew for "truth". In the initial documents filed for tax-exempt status with the Internal Revenue Service, FDD's stated mission was to "provide education to enhance Israel's image in North America and the public's understanding of issues affecting Israeli-Arab relations". Its mission broadened after the September 11 attacks in 2001. Later documents described its mission as "to conduct research and provide education on international terrorism and related issues".

John Mearsheimer in 2007, Muhammad Idrees Ahmad in 2014, and Ofira Seliktar in 2018 have described FDD as part of the Israel lobby in the United States

Sima Vaknin-Gil, director general of Israel's Ministry of Strategic Affairs, stated that the FDD works in conjunction with the Israeli government, including the ministry."

So yeah, the usual constellation of suspects.

I'm telling you, you need to abandon this quest to turn the GOP into a Hebrew Roots party. There are a lot of people who aren't onboard with that mission.

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Hard to abandon a mission I'm not on.

The issue is I don't have Jews like yourself.

Doc Holliday said:

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Relevant:

Are you, a U.S. senator, calling to have Catholic Americans investigated for our opposition to dispensationalist Zionism, you treacherous fkn slob?

— The Redheaded libertarian (@TRHLofficial) March 15, 2026

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From the article in Cruz's post:

"A Necessary Distinction: This Is Not About Catholicism or Regular Catholics but about Political Catholic Integralism

Before mapping this operation in full, one clarification is essential because without it, the analysis will be misread, and misreading it serves the operation's interests.
This is not about Catholics."

The 70 million American Catholics who go to Mass on Sunday, vote their conscience, pay their taxes, coach Little League, and have been reliable partners in the pro-life movement for fifty years are not the subject of this investigation. They are, in a real sense, among its victims. The political integralist Catholicism being deployed in this operation bears no relationship to the ordinary American Catholic faith it uses the vocabulary and symbols of a faith tradition as a vehicle for a power project that most practitioners of that faith would find alien and alarming. In fact, I would argue that but for the influencer and opinion shaper class, everyday Catholics don't even know its happening.

……

The third ingredient is imported European and Middle Eastern sectarianism and this is perhaps the most important point, because it explains something that confuses many American observers: why does any this feel so foreign?
It feels foreign because it is foreign. America does not have a native antisemitism rooted in two thousand years of living in close proximity to Jewish communities in a Catholic or Orthodox Christian civilization. We did not have pogroms. We did not have the Dreyfus Affair. We did not have centuries of Jewish ghettoes enforced by Church law, blood libel accusations, forced conversions, and expulsions. The specific texture of European antisemitism the theological contempt, the conspiratorial frameworks about Jewish power, the language of "Christkillers" and "usurers" and "rootless cosmopolitans" is not native to American political culture. It had to be imported.
That importation is exactly what is happening. Dugin's geopolitical framework is Russian. The integralist political theology is drawn from pre-Enlightenment European Catholic political thought. The SSPX traditionalism is French in origin founded by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, a bishop who openly expressed sympathy for the Vichy government. The specific antisemitic conspiracy frameworks being deployed about Jewish control of media, finance, and foreign policy are recognizably derived from European far-right sources, recycled through American online culture and repackaged for a new generation."



There is no call to investigate Catholics in Cruz's post. The article is the investigation into the movements it lists and calls for mainstream clergy - including Catholic clergy - to publicly counter the tenets of the movement.
As mentioned on here multiple times, the article attests these are ideologies as old as Europe and Christendom piggybacking on current events to gain influence in a bait and switch.
Young people, there is nothing new under the sun.

Doc Holliday said:

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Relevant:

Are you, a U.S. senator, calling to have Catholic Americans investigated for our opposition to dispensationalist Zionism, you treacherous fkn slob?

— The Redheaded libertarian (@TRHLofficial) March 15, 2026

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You're allowed to be Catholic, for now...

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Doc Holliday said:

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Are you, a U.S. senator, calling to have Catholic Americans investigated for our opposition to dispensationalist Zionism, you treacherous fkn slob?

— The Redheaded libertarian (@TRHLofficial) March 15, 2026

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You're allowed to be Catholic, for now...

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Did you read the article Cruz linked?

Doc Holliday said:

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Are you, a U.S. senator, calling to have Catholic Americans investigated for our opposition to dispensationalist Zionism, you treacherous fkn slob?

— The Redheaded libertarian (@TRHLofficial) March 15, 2026

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I've seen this lady's comments before. Didn't listen to what Cruz said, but this gal is an absolute nut

BTW, the shared disdain for Israel does make for some strange bedfellows. I've never seen an Orthodox Christian defend Catholicism as much as you have.

Mothra said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Relevant:

Are you, a U.S. senator, calling to have Catholic Americans investigated for our opposition to dispensationalist Zionism, you treacherous fkn slob?

— The Redheaded libertarian (@TRHLofficial) March 15, 2026

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I've seen this lady's comments before. Didn't listen to what Cruz said, but this gal is an absolute nut

BTW, the shared disdain for Israel does make for some strange bedfellows. I've never seen an Orthodox Christian defend Catholicism as much as you have.

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Does your church have an Israeli flag flying from one of its flag poles?

The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Relevant:

Are you, a U.S. senator, calling to have Catholic Americans investigated for our opposition to dispensationalist Zionism, you treacherous fkn slob?

— The Redheaded libertarian (@TRHLofficial) March 15, 2026

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I've seen this lady's comments before. Didn't listen to what Cruz said, but this gal is an absolute nut

BTW, the shared disdain for Israel does make for some strange bedfellows. I've never seen an Orthodox Christian defend Catholicism as much as you have.

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Does your church have an Israeli flag flying from one of its flag poles?

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No. Do you have a Nazi flag flying from the Society for Reason chapter you attend?

The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Relevant:

Are you, a U.S. senator, calling to have Catholic Americans investigated for our opposition to dispensationalist Zionism, you treacherous fkn slob?

— The Redheaded libertarian (@TRHLofficial) March 15, 2026

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I've seen this lady's comments before. Didn't listen to what Cruz said, but this gal is an absolute nut

BTW, the shared disdain for Israel does make for some strange bedfellows. I've never seen an Orthodox Christian defend Catholicism as much as you have.

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Does your church have an Israeli flag flying from one of its flag poles?

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No. Do you have a Nazi flag flying from the Society for Reason you attend?

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Somebody has their panties in a wad this morning.

EatMoreSalmon said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Relevant:

Are you, a U.S. senator, calling to have Catholic Americans investigated for our opposition to dispensationalist Zionism, you treacherous fkn slob?

— The Redheaded libertarian (@TRHLofficial) March 15, 2026

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From the article in Cruz's post:

"A Necessary Distinction: This Is Not About Catholicism or Regular Catholics but about Political Catholic Integralism

Before mapping this operation in full, one clarification is essential because without it, the analysis will be misread, and misreading it serves the operation's interests.
This is not about Catholics."

The 70 million American Catholics who go to Mass on Sunday, vote their conscience, pay their taxes, coach Little League, and have been reliable partners in the pro-life movement for fifty years are not the subject of this investigation. They are, in a real sense, among its victims. The political integralist Catholicism being deployed in this operation bears no relationship to the ordinary American Catholic faith it uses the vocabulary and symbols of a faith tradition as a vehicle for a power project that most practitioners of that faith would find alien and alarming. In fact, I would argue that but for the influencer and opinion shaper class, everyday Catholics don't even know its happening.

……

The third ingredient is imported European and Middle Eastern sectarianism and this is perhaps the most important point, because it explains something that confuses many American observers: why does any this feel so foreign?
It feels foreign because it is foreign. America does not have a native antisemitism rooted in two thousand years of living in close proximity to Jewish communities in a Catholic or Orthodox Christian civilization. We did not have pogroms. We did not have the Dreyfus Affair. We did not have centuries of Jewish ghettoes enforced by Church law, blood libel accusations, forced conversions, and expulsions. The specific texture of European antisemitism the theological contempt, the conspiratorial frameworks about Jewish power, the language of "Christkillers" and "usurers" and "rootless cosmopolitans" is not native to American political culture. It had to be imported.
That importation is exactly what is happening. Dugin's geopolitical framework is Russian. The integralist political theology is drawn from pre-Enlightenment European Catholic political thought. The SSPX traditionalism is French in origin founded by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, a bishop who openly expressed sympathy for the Vichy government. The specific antisemitic conspiracy frameworks being deployed about Jewish control of media, finance, and foreign policy are recognizably derived from European far-right sources, recycled through American online culture and repackaged for a new generation."



There is no call to investigate Catholics in Cruz's post. The article is the investigation into the movements it lists and calls for mainstream clergy - including Catholic clergy - to publicly counter the tenets of the movement.
As mentioned on here multiple times, the article attests these are ideologies as old as Europe and Christendom piggybacking on current events to gain influence in a bait and switch.
Young people, there is nothing new under the sun.

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That's an interesting piece, but I think the author may be giving these folks too much credit.

Anti-semitism has always been an easy sell to a certain segment of the population. Opportunists are selling it and drawing lots of attention (eg $) online. Just fight it head on.

Doc Holliday said:

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Mothra said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Relevant:

Are you, a U.S. senator, calling to have Catholic Americans investigated for our opposition to dispensationalist Zionism, you treacherous fkn slob?

— The Redheaded libertarian (@TRHLofficial) March 15, 2026

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I've seen this lady's comments before. Didn't listen to what Cruz said, but this gal is an absolute nut

BTW, the shared disdain for Israel does make for some strange bedfellows. I've never seen an Orthodox Christian defend Catholicism as much as you have.

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Its quite complex actually. There's been a major threat to evangelical/reformed world. Basically baptist or non denom churches are losing ground.

There's been a huge and recent conversion of Protestants to Catholic and Eastern Orthodoxy. Also Pentecostalism and the broader charismatic movement are widely considered the fastest growing Christian movement in the world: Its wild that the charismatics and the more radical groups of the reformation are statistically going to win the race.

So there's very much a move toward anti dispensationalism and that's a major threat to this current war and how Christians in the US view Israel. If you don't really understand modern politics, just know its all about narrative control.

Where I'm concerned:
You have guys like Dough Wilson (Pete Hegseth's pastor) who just publicly stated that he wants to outlaw Catholic public worship which would also include Orthodoxy. He basically just said public acts of adoration of the Eucharist, artwork/icons should not be permitted because he views them as idolatrous and he would gladly get behind banning it.

Orthodox, Catholics, Lutherans and Anglicans all have sacraments, a magisterium and are mostly against dispensationalism. I see a future where they're persecuted for their differences. I see them as brothers, not some demonic foreign religion that most non denoms and baptists think they are.
I think our government could easily persecute these groups. Ex. "We fear Orthodox churches are filled with Russian agents, and we're going to shut them down".

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I am not sure the numbers I've seen support your position. While Christianity in general has experienced significant growth the past few years, non-denominational churches are likewise experiencing significant growth, with roughly 14% of Americans (nearly 40 million people) now identifying as non-denominational. They have become the second-largest religious tradition in the U.S. behind Catholicism, growing by 9,000 congregations over the past decade.

The overall percentage of U.S. adults identifying as Catholic has been stable at roughly 20% since 2014. They are obviously the largest group, but I've seen no evidence they've grown in any large numbers over the last 10 years.

I have seen statistics that the Orthodox sects are likewise growing in number, mostly among the younger generations. Of course, it still remains less than 1% of the population.

It would seem to me that if you are Orthodox, you would be concerned for the souls of Catholics. But to be blunt, it sounds like you are more interested in your common cause - dislike of Israel, and anti-biblical positions on the Jews, and in particular, Romans 9 and 11.

The idea that your faith or the Catholic faith are under attack is a new one for me. I think it will be damn near impossible for Pete Hegseth's pastor, whoever that is, to violate any of your 1st Amended rights.

Feels like they have these conferences twice a week... who the hell is paying for all this?... and why do I have a feeling it is me, the American tax payer...

How is it even possible to have this many conventions? https://t.co/TqFiTtquGe

— Harrison H. Smith ✞ (@HarrisonHSmith) March 16, 2026

Mothra said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Mothra said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Relevant:

Are you, a U.S. senator, calling to have Catholic Americans investigated for our opposition to dispensationalist Zionism, you treacherous fkn slob?

— The Redheaded libertarian (@TRHLofficial) March 15, 2026

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I've seen this lady's comments before. Didn't listen to what Cruz said, but this gal is an absolute nut

BTW, the shared disdain for Israel does make for some strange bedfellows. I've never seen an Orthodox Christian defend Catholicism as much as you have.

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Its quite complex actually. There's been a major threat to evangelical/reformed world. Basically baptist or non denom churches are losing ground.

There's been a huge and recent conversion of Protestants to Catholic and Eastern Orthodoxy. Also Pentecostalism and the broader charismatic movement are widely considered the fastest growing Christian movement in the world: Its wild that the charismatics and the more radical groups of the reformation are statistically going to win the race.

So there's very much a move toward anti dispensationalism and that's a major threat to this current war and how Christians in the US view Israel. If you don't really understand modern politics, just know its all about narrative control.

Where I'm concerned:
You have guys like Dough Wilson (Pete Hegseth's pastor) who just publicly stated that he wants to outlaw Catholic public worship which would also include Orthodoxy. He basically just said public acts of adoration of the Eucharist, artwork/icons should not be permitted because he views them as idolatrous and he would gladly get behind banning it.

Orthodox, Catholics, Lutherans and Anglicans all have sacraments, a magisterium and are mostly against dispensationalism. I see a future where they're persecuted for their differences. I see them as brothers, not some demonic foreign religion that most non denoms and baptists think they are.
I think our government could easily persecute these groups. Ex. "We fear Orthodox churches are filled with Russian agents, and we're going to shut them down".

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I am not sure the numbers I've seen support your position. While Christianity in general has experienced significant growth the past few years, non-denominational churches are likewise experiencing significant growth, with roughly 14% of Americans (nearly 40 million people) now identifying as non-denominational. They have become the second-largest religious tradition in the U.S. behind Catholicism, growing by 9,000 congregations over the past decade.

The overall percentage of U.S. adults identifying as Catholic has been stable at roughly 20% since 2014. They are obviously the largest group, but I've seen no evidence they've grown in any large numbers over the last 10 years.

I have seen statistics that the Orthodox sects are likewise growing in number, mostly among the younger generations. Of course, it still remains less than 1% of the population.

It would seem to me that if you are Orthodox, you would be concerned for the souls of Catholics. But to be blunt, it sounds like you are more interested in your common cause - dislike of Israel, and anti-biblical positions on the Jews, and in particular, Romans 9 and 11.

The idea that your faith or the Catholic faith are under attack is a new one for me. I think it will be damn near impossible for Pete Hegseth's pastor, whoever that is, to violate any of your 1st Amended rights.

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Yes non-denominational churches are experiencing significant growth. Its mostly mega churches. The majority of US church goers attend churches in the 90th percentile for size. They have high turnover though, about 40% of those church goers have been there few than five years and only 20% are lifelong members. They tend to lose a ton of people when the pastor leaves, which isn't surprising because that's how non denominationals "shop" for churches: the pastor.

The numbers clearly support my claim though, which is that the future is mostly Pentecostalism which made up 58M globally in 1970 and now makes up 635 million globally. Most think it will be a billion by 2050. Its outpacing the rest of Christianity by a massive margin.

I'm concerned for all souls, but Orthodox don't deny salvation outside of the Church. They know where salvation is, but not necessarily where it isn't. They're not going around telling everyone they're automatically damned because they're not Orthodox. There's a respect between Catholic and Orthodox in the modern world.

I think you might be shocked by the hatred for Catholics/Orthodox.

Amazing how the Atlantic, the FBI, and Neocons all agree on this pic.twitter.com/o0ITrvXyjf

— Jack Posobiec (@JackPosobiec) March 16, 2026

Doc Holliday said:

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Mothra said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Mothra said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Relevant:

Are you, a U.S. senator, calling to have Catholic Americans investigated for our opposition to dispensationalist Zionism, you treacherous fkn slob?

— The Redheaded libertarian (@TRHLofficial) March 15, 2026

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I've seen this lady's comments before. Didn't listen to what Cruz said, but this gal is an absolute nut

BTW, the shared disdain for Israel does make for some strange bedfellows. I've never seen an Orthodox Christian defend Catholicism as much as you have.

---

Its quite complex actually. There's been a major threat to evangelical/reformed world. Basically baptist or non denom churches are losing ground.

There's been a huge and recent conversion of Protestants to Catholic and Eastern Orthodoxy. Also Pentecostalism and the broader charismatic movement are widely considered the fastest growing Christian movement in the world: Its wild that the charismatics and the more radical groups of the reformation are statistically going to win the race.

So there's very much a move toward anti dispensationalism and that's a major threat to this current war and how Christians in the US view Israel. If you don't really understand modern politics, just know its all about narrative control.

Where I'm concerned:
You have guys like Dough Wilson (Pete Hegseth's pastor) who just publicly stated that he wants to outlaw Catholic public worship which would also include Orthodoxy. He basically just said public acts of adoration of the Eucharist, artwork/icons should not be permitted because he views them as idolatrous and he would gladly get behind banning it.

Orthodox, Catholics, Lutherans and Anglicans all have sacraments, a magisterium and are mostly against dispensationalism. I see a future where they're persecuted for their differences. I see them as brothers, not some demonic foreign religion that most non denoms and baptists think they are.
I think our government could easily persecute these groups. Ex. "We fear Orthodox churches are filled with Russian agents, and we're going to shut them down".

---

I am not sure the numbers I've seen support your position. While Christianity in general has experienced significant growth the past few years, non-denominational churches are likewise experiencing significant growth, with roughly 14% of Americans (nearly 40 million people) now identifying as non-denominational. They have become the second-largest religious tradition in the U.S. behind Catholicism, growing by 9,000 congregations over the past decade.

The overall percentage of U.S. adults identifying as Catholic has been stable at roughly 20% since 2014. They are obviously the largest group, but I've seen no evidence they've grown in any large numbers over the last 10 years.

I have seen statistics that the Orthodox sects are likewise growing in number, mostly among the younger generations. Of course, it still remains less than 1% of the population.

It would seem to me that if you are Orthodox, you would be concerned for the souls of Catholics. But to be blunt, it sounds like you are more interested in your common cause - dislike of Israel, and anti-biblical positions on the Jews, and in particular, Romans 9 and 11.

The idea that your faith or the Catholic faith are under attack is a new one for me. I think it will be damn near impossible for Pete Hegseth's pastor, whoever that is, to violate any of your 1st Amended rights.

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I'm concerned for all souls, but Orthodox don't deny salvation outside of the Church. They know where salvation is, but not necessarily where it isn't. They're not going around telling everyone they're automatically damned because they're not Orthodox. There's a respect between Catholic and Orthodox in the modern world.

I think you might be shocked by the hatred for Catholics/Orthodox.

Amazing how the Atlantic, the FBI, and Neocons all agree on this pic.twitter.com/o0ITrvXyjf

— Jack Posobiec (@JackPosobiec) March 16, 2026

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So, sounds like you and the Catholics disagree then, as they do deny salvation outside of the Church. In that sense, you're more akin to my reformed theology brethren.

But that really wasn't my point. My point had more to do with being concerned with Catholicism because they believe false gospel that their works can save them. Sounds like you don't take issue with such heresy.

As for the Atlantic, it's a liberal rag and doesn't speak for anyone but the leftists. I didn't see Orthodoxy mentioned, BTW.

The future is very big 🙏 pic.twitter.com/w9mUtjCebq

— Patristic Nectar (@PatristicNectar) March 12, 2026

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The future is very big 🙏 pic.twitter.com/w9mUtjCebq

— Patristic Nectar (@PatristicNectar) March 12, 2026

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Is there a American Orthodox Church?

Or do all the Orthodox churches - Greek, Russian, Romanian, Armenian etc have their own branches here?

The_barBEARian said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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The future is very big 🙏 pic.twitter.com/w9mUtjCebq

— Patristic Nectar (@PatristicNectar) March 12, 2026

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Is there a American Orthodox Church?

Or do all the Orthodox churches - Greek, Russian, Romanian, Armenian etc have their own branches here?

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They're around. Probably harder to find in Texas but they're sprinkled around, more popular in the Northeast. Most of them have services in English

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The_barBEARian said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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The future is very big 🙏 pic.twitter.com/w9mUtjCebq

— Patristic Nectar (@PatristicNectar) March 12, 2026

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Is there a American Orthodox Church?

Or do all the Orthodox churches - Greek, Russian, Romanian, Armenian etc have their own branches here?

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They're around. Probably harder to find in Texas but they're sprinkled around, more popular in the Northeast. Most of them have services in English

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I've never actually attended an Orthodox service... would be fun to visit someday...

I grew up in the Episcopal Church and my mother side were German Catholics so I went to plenty of their services too.

Doc Holliday said:

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Mothra said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Mothra said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Mothra said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Relevant:

Are you, a U.S. senator, calling to have Catholic Americans investigated for our opposition to dispensationalist Zionism, you treacherous fkn slob?

— The Redheaded libertarian (@TRHLofficial) March 15, 2026

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I've seen this lady's comments before. Didn't listen to what Cruz said, but this gal is an absolute nut

BTW, the shared disdain for Israel does make for some strange bedfellows. I've never seen an Orthodox Christian defend Catholicism as much as you have.

---

Its quite complex actually. There's been a major threat to evangelical/reformed world. Basically baptist or non denom churches are losing ground.

There's been a huge and recent conversion of Protestants to Catholic and Eastern Orthodoxy. Also Pentecostalism and the broader charismatic movement are widely considered the fastest growing Christian movement in the world: Its wild that the charismatics and the more radical groups of the reformation are statistically going to win the race.

So there's very much a move toward anti dispensationalism and that's a major threat to this current war and how Christians in the US view Israel. If you don't really understand modern politics, just know its all about narrative control.

Where I'm concerned:
You have guys like Dough Wilson (Pete Hegseth's pastor) who just publicly stated that he wants to outlaw Catholic public worship which would also include Orthodoxy. He basically just said public acts of adoration of the Eucharist, artwork/icons should not be permitted because he views them as idolatrous and he would gladly get behind banning it.

Orthodox, Catholics, Lutherans and Anglicans all have sacraments, a magisterium and are mostly against dispensationalism. I see a future where they're persecuted for their differences. I see them as brothers, not some demonic foreign religion that most non denoms and baptists think they are.
I think our government could easily persecute these groups. Ex. "We fear Orthodox churches are filled with Russian agents, and we're going to shut them down".

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I am not sure the numbers I've seen support your position. While Christianity in general has experienced significant growth the past few years, non-denominational churches are likewise experiencing significant growth, with roughly 14% of Americans (nearly 40 million people) now identifying as non-denominational. They have become the second-largest religious tradition in the U.S. behind Catholicism, growing by 9,000 congregations over the past decade.

The overall percentage of U.S. adults identifying as Catholic has been stable at roughly 20% since 2014. They are obviously the largest group, but I've seen no evidence they've grown in any large numbers over the last 10 years.

I have seen statistics that the Orthodox sects are likewise growing in number, mostly among the younger generations. Of course, it still remains less than 1% of the population.

It would seem to me that if you are Orthodox, you would be concerned for the souls of Catholics. But to be blunt, it sounds like you are more interested in your common cause - dislike of Israel, and anti-biblical positions on the Jews, and in particular, Romans 9 and 11.

The idea that your faith or the Catholic faith are under attack is a new one for me. I think it will be damn near impossible for Pete Hegseth's pastor, whoever that is, to violate any of your 1st Amended rights.

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I'm concerned for all souls, but Orthodox don't deny salvation outside of the Church. They know where salvation is, but not necessarily where it isn't. They're not going around telling everyone they're automatically damned because they're not Orthodox. There's a respect between Catholic and Orthodox in the modern world.

I think you might be shocked by the hatred for Catholics/Orthodox.

Amazing how the Atlantic, the FBI, and Neocons all agree on this pic.twitter.com/o0ITrvXyjf

— Jack Posobiec (@JackPosobiec) March 16, 2026

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So, sounds like you and the Catholics disagree then, as they do deny salvation outside of the Church. In that sense, you're more akin to my reformed theology brethren.

But that really wasn't my point. My point had more to do with being concerned with Catholicism because they believe false gospel that their works can save them. Sounds like you don't take issue with such heresy.

As for the Atlantic, it's a liberal rag and doesn't speak for anyone but the leftists. I didn't see Orthodoxy mentioned, BTW.

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That's not what modern Catholics believe. Works based salvation is a tired trope built from medieval Catholicism and it's not what they believe nor what's in their doctrines.

If actually read Aquinas, or the Catechism, or any Orthodox father, you won't find "do enough good deeds and earn heaven." Grace is absolutely central to both traditions. Rejecting sola fide doesn't automatically land you in a position where works earn salvation. That's not what Catholicism or Orthodoxy actually teaches.

Catholics don't flatly damn Orthodox Christians either, they tend to recognize Orthodox baptism and apostolic succession as valid, placing them in a category of "separated brethren".

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Unfortunately this is just a misguided attempt to repackage a works based faith in an attempt to apologize for heresy. When you believe sacraments have to be performed to be saved, that's not only a works based faith but actual heresy. Baptism, confession, communion - none of these things are requirements tor salvation. Yet that is exactly what the Catholic Church teaches and has been the subject of numerous debates on this board.

It's unfortunate that your hyper focus on sola fide has led you to defend heresy. You get it badly wrong here

Doc Holliday said:

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The future is very big 🙏 pic.twitter.com/w9mUtjCebq

— Patristic Nectar (@PatristicNectar) March 12, 2026

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Don't disagree with these comments. But it's a shame they feel they have to separate themselves from other Christians by the way they' look and dress.

Do they also want to be called "your imminence"?