You are a case in point, J.R.

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Other than trying to blame the Jews for a bunch of b.s. ideas that numerous ethnicities contributed to (again, no surprise coming from a racist such as yourself), I don't disagree.

Does that mean that there isn't a special plan in place to redeem the Jews as God's covenental people?

Nope. There is, as the covenant remains in place.

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Hey Mothra can you please provide a passage from the New Testament that states the Old Covenant remains? Since you're a big Sola Scriptura guy and all

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Happy to. I will even go a step further, and explain how the covenant not only remains, but will be fulfilled:

Genesis 17:7: I will establish my covenant as an everlasting covenant between me and you and your descendants after you for the generations to come, to be your God and the God of your descendants after you

Summary: The Abrahamic Covenant is everlasting.

Jeremiah 31:31-37:

"The days are coming," declares the Lord,
"when I will make a new covenant
with the people of Israel
and with the people of Judah.
32 It will not be like the covenant
I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they broke my covenant,
though I was a husband to[a] them,[b]"
declares the Lord.
33 "This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel
after that time," declares the Lord.
"I will put my law in their minds
and write it on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
34 No longer will they teach their neighbor,
or say to one another, 'Know the Lord,'
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest,"
declares the Lord.
"For I will forgive their wickedness
and will remember their sins no more."
35 This is what the Lord says,
he who appoints the sun
to shine by day,
who decrees the moon and stars
to shine by night,
who stirs up the sea
so that its waves roar
the Lord Almighty is his name:
36 "Only if these decrees vanish from my sight,"
declares the Lord,
"will Israel ever cease
being a nation before me."
37 This is what the Lord says:
"Only if the heavens above can be measured
and the foundations of the earth below be searched out
will I reject all the descendants of Israel
because of all they have done,"
declares the Lord.

Summary: God's covenant with Israel is permanent.

Romans 11:25-29: 25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, 26 and in this way all Israel will be saved. As it is written: "The deliverer will come from Zion; he will turn godlessness away from Jacob. 27 And this is my covenant with them when I take away their sins." 28 As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, 29 for God's gifts and his call are irrevocable.

Summary: God has not cast away the descendants of Abraham, and his calling stands.

Luke 21:24: "They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

Summary: Accord to Christ himself, Israel will be restored after the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

Acts 1:6-7: Then they gathered around him and asked him, "Lord, are you at this time going to restore the kingdom to Israel?" He said to them: "It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority.

Summary: Accord to Christ himself, Israel will be restored.

Romans 11:17-24: 17 If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, 18 do not consider yourself to be superior to those other branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you. 19 You will say then, "Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in." 20 Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but tremble. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either.

22 Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off. 23 And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 24 After all, if you were cut out of an olive tree that is wild by nature, and contrary to nature were grafted into a cultivated olive tree, how much more readily will these, the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree!

Summary: Gentiles are grafted in. They do not replace Israel.

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Jeremiah 31 says God will create a new covenant that is not the same as the last. Hebrews 8:13 references this and declares the old covenant as obsolete.

Romans 11:25 says Gods gifts are irrevocable but 11:20 says Jews are broken off because of unbelief

Luke 21:24 doesn't address the covenant, nor does it imply that Jews will even regain control of the Holy Land

Acts 1:6-7 is purely up to interpretation

Read Galatians 3

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Other than trying to blame the Jews for a bunch of b.s. ideas that numerous ethnicities contributed to (again, no surprise coming from a racist such as yourself), I don't disagree.

Does that mean that there isn't a special plan in place to redeem the Jews as God's covenental people?

Nope. There is, as the covenant remains in place.

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Hey Mothra can you please provide a passage from the New Testament that states the Old Covenant remains? Since you're a big Sola Scriptura guy and all

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Happy to. I will even go a step further, and explain how the covenant not only remains, but will be fulfilled:

Genesis 17:7: I will establish my covenant as an everlasting covenant between me and you and your descendants after you for the generations to come, to be your God and the God of your descendants after you

Summary: The Abrahamic Covenant is everlasting.

Jeremiah 31:31-37:

"The days are coming," declares the Lord,
"when I will make a new covenant
with the people of Israel
and with the people of Judah.
32 It will not be like the covenant
I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they broke my covenant,
though I was a husband to[a] them,[b]"
declares the Lord.
33 "This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel
after that time," declares the Lord.
"I will put my law in their minds
and write it on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
34 No longer will they teach their neighbor,
or say to one another, 'Know the Lord,'
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest,"
declares the Lord.
"For I will forgive their wickedness
and will remember their sins no more."
35 This is what the Lord says,
he who appoints the sun
to shine by day,
who decrees the moon and stars
to shine by night,
who stirs up the sea
so that its waves roar
the Lord Almighty is his name:
36 "Only if these decrees vanish from my sight,"
declares the Lord,
"will Israel ever cease
being a nation before me."
37 This is what the Lord says:
"Only if the heavens above can be measured
and the foundations of the earth below be searched out
will I reject all the descendants of Israel
because of all they have done,"
declares the Lord.

Summary: God's covenant with Israel is permanent.

Romans 11:25-29: 25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, 26 and in this way all Israel will be saved. As it is written: "The deliverer will come from Zion; he will turn godlessness away from Jacob. 27 And this is my covenant with them when I take away their sins." 28 As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, 29 for God's gifts and his call are irrevocable.

Summary: God has not cast away the descendants of Abraham, and his calling stands.

Luke 21:24: "They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

Summary: Accord to Christ himself, Israel will be restored after the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

Acts 1:6-7: Then they gathered around him and asked him, "Lord, are you at this time going to restore the kingdom to Israel?" He said to them: "It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority.

Summary: Accord to Christ himself, Israel will be restored.

Romans 11:17-24: 17 If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, 18 do not consider yourself to be superior to those other branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you. 19 You will say then, "Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in." 20 Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but tremble. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either.

22 Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off. 23 And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 24 After all, if you were cut out of an olive tree that is wild by nature, and contrary to nature were grafted into a cultivated olive tree, how much more readily will these, the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree!

Summary: Gentiles are grafted in. They do not replace Israel.

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Jeremiah 31 says God will create a new covenant that is not the same as the last. Hebrews 8:13 references this and declares the old covenant as obsolete.

Romans 11:25 says Gods gifts are irrevocable but 11:20 says Jews are broken off because of unbelief

Luke 21:24 doesn't address the covenant, nor does it imply that Jews will even regain control of the Holy Land

Acts 1:6-7 is purely up to interpretation

Read Galatians 3

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Hebrews 13 is referring to the Mosaic covenant, which is indeed obsolete. It means the covenant's sacrificial and ceremonial rules are no longer binding for believers - a true statement. It is not referring to the Abrahamic covenant.

Are you implying that Romans 11:20 and 11:25 are inconsistent? If so, wow. That is kind of an indictment of Paul, as well as the idea that his writings were inspired by God.

Here is what I would submit: Romans 11:20 and 11:25 are completely consistent. Indeed, Paul is correctly pointing out that Israel, because of its unbelief, is not a part of the body of Christ. However, 11:25 is clear that there is still a plan for Israel, and that this "hardening" of their hearts toward Christ will someday end. And therein lies the fulfillment of the Abrahamic covenant when it comes to Christ. The Jews will eventually turn from their unbelief and become a part of the vine again.

That is the entire point of Romans 11.

As for Galatians 3, its point is that righteousness and salvation come through faith in Jesus Christ, not by works of the Mosaic Law. Again, this is a true statement, and in no way contradicts Romans 11.

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Other than trying to blame the Jews for a bunch of b.s. ideas that numerous ethnicities contributed to (again, no surprise coming from a racist such as yourself), I don't disagree.

Does that mean that there isn't a special plan in place to redeem the Jews as God's covenental people?

Nope. There is, as the covenant remains in place.

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Hey Mothra can you please provide a passage from the New Testament that states the Old Covenant remains? Since you're a big Sola Scriptura guy and all

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I heard a sermon several years ago at a very large mainstream Baptist church that such was exactly the case. I found it fascinating but ultimately an argument that did not affect me.

Grant Teaff's son-in-law, Russ Bookbinder, spoke to our Sunday School class (at the time lead by Coach Teaff) and explained that, as a Jew, he had to find his way to Christ via the Old Testament. And he did = Jesus as a fulfillment of Jewish prophesy. Must be a tortuous path, because few do. The ethnic aspect is a big factor in that I'm sure. They're not just leaving Judaism. They're leaving their race.

My hunting buddy is a marginally practicing Jew. His father has on his third non-Jewish wife and now proclaims to be "close to the Cross." We kid my friend about that. He takes it well.


Thus board is (not surprisingly given the demo) incredibly verkrampte about Judaism.

Catholics will soon surpass evangelicals in number in the United States, becoming the largest Christian denomination, according to a new report.

Info: COPE pic.twitter.com/ydMEAU4biM

— Sachin Jose (@Sachinettiyil) March 24, 2026

BREAKING: White smoke in Tel Aviv indicates that Israel has chosen a new OnlyFans CEO pic.twitter.com/nvxSUCFyp2

— Orvo ☭☰ (@MechaOrvo) March 23, 2026

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Catholics will soon surpass evangelicals in number in the United States, becoming the largest Christian denomination, according to a new report.

Info: COPE pic.twitter.com/ydMEAU4biM

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People are hungry for tradition and uniformity

What’s the troubling pattern, Daily Wire. 🪿 pic.twitter.com/8smN0sdJYH

— The Redheaded libertarian (@TRHLofficial) March 24, 2026

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Catholics will soon surpass evangelicals in number in the United States, becoming the largest Christian denomination, according to a new report.

Info: COPE pic.twitter.com/ydMEAU4biM

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People are hungry for tradition and uniformity

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Indeed.

Young men need accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority.

Greece in 50 years https://t.co/p5tLLV9u15 pic.twitter.com/uVifFi9HlF

— Keith Woods (@KeithWoodsYT) March 24, 2026

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— TheRealNetTechNerd (@RealNetTechNerd) March 24, 2026

Well...well...well...

Here’s a 35-minute compilation of FAKE antisemitic hate crimes reported and verified by mainstream media.

False flags are their go-to strategy…pic.twitter.com/9jV0RPuqyV

— ADAM (@AdameMedia) March 24, 2026

Adolf is enjoying the gossip today.

He hasn't been this happy since they opened up Dachau.

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Adolf is enjoying the gossip today.

He hasn't been this happy since they opened up Dachau.

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This is how you choose to spend the last days of your life...

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Adolf is enjoying the gossip today.

He hasn't been this happy since they opened up Dachau.

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Nah, those days I will be watching reruns of our football bowl wins, maybe the 2012 game where we beat Kansas State when they were #1, and of course the 2021 Natty run.

You, most likely, will be trying to make Mein Kampf into a romcom.

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Catholics will soon surpass evangelicals in number in the United States, becoming the largest Christian denomination, according to a new report.

Info: COPE pic.twitter.com/ydMEAU4biM

— Sachin Jose (@Sachinettiyil) March 24, 2026

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A bit surprised by this. I thought Catholics already surpassed Evangelicals.

Makes no difference. I suspect the vast majority in both Catholics and Evangelical Churches (a very broad, undefined term) aren't Christian anyway.

As Christ said, the gate is narrow.

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Adolf is enjoying the gossip today.

He hasn't been this happy since they opened up Dachau.

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These could be your last days. You never know.

Single, childless men die earlier than men who have families. And if you are in your mid to late 30's, and with your bitterness, Atheism, and hateful persona, that ship may have already sailed. The white, conservative women you desire are simply not going to be interested in someone like you.

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Catholics will soon surpass evangelicals in number in the United States, becoming the largest Christian denomination, according to a new report.

Info: COPE pic.twitter.com/ydMEAU4biM

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People are hungry for tradition and uniformity

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Young men need accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority.

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Just because a church has leaders that wear costumes, have long bears, worship paintings and statutes, and have a list of criteria necessary for salvation doesn't mean there isn't accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority outside of Catholicism and Orthodoxy.

Your silly assumptions are a real crutch for you.

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BREAKING: White smoke in Tel Aviv indicates that Israel has chosen a new OnlyFans CEO pic.twitter.com/nvxSUCFyp2

— Orvo ☭☰ (@MechaOrvo) March 23, 2026

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Actually, a white, anglo-saxon woman has been the CEO of Onlyfans for years.

It definitely means all white people are evil.

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Catholics will soon surpass evangelicals in number in the United States, becoming the largest Christian denomination, according to a new report.

Info: COPE pic.twitter.com/ydMEAU4biM

— Sachin Jose (@Sachinettiyil) March 24, 2026

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People are hungry for tradition and uniformity

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Young men need accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority.

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Just because a church has leaders that wear costumes, have long bears, worship paintings and statutes, and have a list of criteria necessary for salvation doesn't mean there isn't accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority outside of Catholicism and Orthodoxy.

Your silly assumptions are a real crutch for you.

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Cope. Once Protestantism dies in America it will cease to exist throughout the entire world as Europe isn't looking so hot these days. I give it another 80 years

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Catholics will soon surpass evangelicals in number in the United States, becoming the largest Christian denomination, according to a new report.

Info: COPE pic.twitter.com/ydMEAU4biM

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People are hungry for tradition and uniformity

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Indeed.

Young men need accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority.

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Just because a church has leaders that wear costumes, have long bears, worship paintings and statutes, and have a list of criteria necessary for salvation doesn't mean there isn't accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority outside of Catholicism and Orthodoxy.

Your silly assumptions are a real crutch for you.

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Cope. Once Protestantism dies in America it will cease to exist throughout the entire world as Europe isn't looking so hot these days. I give it another 80 years

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The sooner this **** ends, the better.....

the protestant reformation and its consequences https://t.co/CcizfRxMLf pic.twitter.com/J6mPBlGatM

— Melian Refugee (@escapefrommelos) March 25, 2026

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Catholics will soon surpass evangelicals in number in the United States, becoming the largest Christian denomination, according to a new report.

Info: COPE pic.twitter.com/ydMEAU4biM

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People are hungry for tradition and uniformity

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Young men need accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority.

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Just because a church has leaders that wear costumes, have long bears, worship paintings and statutes, and have a list of criteria necessary for salvation doesn't mean there isn't accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority outside of Catholicism and Orthodoxy.

Your silly assumptions are a real crutch for you.

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Cope. Once Protestantism dies in America it will cease to exist throughout the entire world as Europe isn't looking so hot these days. I give it another 80 years

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Said every Catholic since the 1500's.

LOL.

And I thought God had already been punishing England enough

— Karma’s Shade (@Rememberingpets) March 25, 2026

You must paint houses, using such a broad brush.

The former CIA Officer @JohnKiriakou has a friend who is a close confidant of President Trump who told him there are 10,000 JFK files that will never be released because they point to Israel.

JFK was trying to block Israel from acquiring a nuclear weapon so they took him out. pic.twitter.com/dw5s0n9z3Z

— Wolf 🐺 (@WorldByWolf) March 25, 2026

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Catholics will soon surpass evangelicals in number in the United States, becoming the largest Christian denomination, according to a new report.

Info: COPE pic.twitter.com/ydMEAU4biM

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Just because a church has leaders that wear costumes, have long bears, worship paintings and statutes, and have a list of criteria necessary for salvation doesn't mean there isn't accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority outside of Catholicism and Orthodoxy.

Your silly assumptions are a real crutch for you.

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Cope. Once Protestantism dies in America it will cease to exist throughout the entire world as Europe isn't looking so hot these days. I give it another 80 years

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Said every Catholic since the 1500's.

LOL.

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Protestant trends come and go, but the Apostolic Churches remain unmoved. Presbyterians, Methodists, Southern Bapists… They're a dying breed

Right now the current fad is the mega churches. In time they will be gone too

I don't recall seeing this for our groomed girls https://t.co/KvT94yr83G

— The Aureus Press (@Trad_West_Art) March 24, 2026

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Catholics will soon surpass evangelicals in number in the United States, becoming the largest Christian denomination, according to a new report.

Info: COPE pic.twitter.com/ydMEAU4biM

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Just because a church has leaders that wear costumes, have long bears, worship paintings and statutes, and have a list of criteria necessary for salvation doesn't mean there isn't accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority outside of Catholicism and Orthodoxy.

Your silly assumptions are a real crutch for you.

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Just because a church has leaders that wear $5k suits, drive g wagons, kneel before worship bands, worship reformers and practice neo-Gnosticism, doesn't mean there isn't accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority outside of calvinist evangelicalism.

See how dumb that sounds?

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My roommates went to Harris Creek while I was a student at Baylor. I tagged along a few times… it's exactly what you described

JP (the pastor) frequently wore designer clothing with luxury watches. I can count at least three times where he incorporated the construction of his second home into sermons. I'm not saying he's a bad guy, but I can't get an honest read on him.

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Catholics will soon surpass evangelicals in number in the United States, becoming the largest Christian denomination, according to a new report.

Info: COPE pic.twitter.com/ydMEAU4biM

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Young men need accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority.

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Just because a church has leaders that wear costumes, have long bears, worship paintings and statutes, and have a list of criteria necessary for salvation doesn't mean there isn't accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority outside of Catholicism and Orthodoxy.

Your silly assumptions are a real crutch for you.

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Cope. Once Protestantism dies in America it will cease to exist throughout the entire world as Europe isn't looking so hot these days. I give it another 80 years

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It is growing rapidly in Africa and Asia.

As long as Christ is preached and churches grow from christians gathering in Christ's name, it won't matter what the name of the church is. It only matters that the gospel of Christ is believed and is represented by faith and trust in God by those in the church.

I'm not the only one noticing this. As I said, Zionism is splitting America's Christian alliance right down the middle, along the old Catholic-Protestant divide, with some Protestants getting downright anti-Catholic. and nasty. A whole lot of work was done to bring Catholics into… pic.twitter.com/bjnNbOIkbK

— Shane Schaetzel †☧ (@ShaneSchaetzel) March 25, 2026

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It's already happening. It's baked into the structure which means it's inevitable.

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Oh please. We already have a surfeit of drama queens, there is really no need for more.