It's time to start playing cowboys and muslims

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ShooterTX
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Texas is trying to create a pilot program for Texas families to get funding for private school and homeschool. Now the freakin Muslims are trying to sue so they can get the money to raise up more terrorists.

TEFA program application deadline extended following lawsuits https://share.google/DucHvC75q3dNQP9O5


To hell with the goat f-ers! Kick them all out of Texas before they destroy everything.


ron.reagan
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ShooterTX said:

Texas is trying to create a pilot program for Texas families to get funding for private school and homeschool. Now the freakin Muslims are trying to sue so they can get the money to raise up more terrorists.

TEFA program application deadline extended following lawsuits https://share.google/DucHvC75q3dNQP9O5


To hell with the goat f-ers! Kick them all out of Texas before they destroy everything.




If you hate them why do you talk the same way as they do?
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ShooterTX said:

Now the freakin Muslims are trying to sue so they can get the money to raise up more terrorists.

TEFA program application deadline extended following lawsuits https://share.google/DucHvC75q3dNQP9O5







Kids today. They just blow up so fast!
Call it a tax, the people are outraged! Call it a tariff, the people get out their checkbooks and wave their American flags!!!
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This will be a very interesting battle. As none of us want Muslims having any sort of influence. But, we also want religious freedom.

At some point we'll want a clarified rule across the western world that Islam is a threat to freedom everywhere.
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ShooterTX said:

Texas is trying to create a pilot program for Texas families to get funding for private school and homeschool. Now the freakin Muslims are trying to sue so they can get the money to raise up more terrorists.

TEFA program application deadline extended following lawsuits https://share.google/DucHvC75q3dNQP9O5


To hell with the goat f-ers! Kick them all out of Texas before they destroy everything.




another splendid example of the good christiandom coming from here. WWJD?
Oldbear83
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Having known some Muslims, I suggest an alternative.

Islam has a long history since its founder received his visions and set about putting sword and torch to the landscape of his birth. Over the many centuries since, the followers of Mohammed range from bloodthirsty berserk fanatics to the inventors of Algebra, from stubborn religious fundamentalists to fantastic authors of poetry and prose. It is therefore unreasonable to cast Muslims only in one light.

Having read the Quran a few times, I am familiar with its main premises, and certainly therefore also its heresies against Christianity. As I said, I also have made acquaintance with some people who are Muslim by either custom, faith, or both, and there is a broader spectrum of opinion among the practices of those people. I attribute this to the fact that speaking with someone from a different culture gives you a more complex idea of their values and ethics. My father worked for decades as a project engineer in the Middle East, and he came to know many Muslims who were impressed with his mind and his ethics. Common ground makes for many bridges.

Regarding Muslims who live in Texas, therefore, I suggest that where their children's education is the topic, that same common ground should lead to common sense guidelines. Just as a school is not qualified for state money simply for being Catholic or a Charter school, so too a Masjid must meet certain clear standards to qualify for state funds. Putting those standards in statutes would be a good thing for all parties concerned, and if a school, no matter its founders, cannot meet that standard, then it would be rejected for appropriate cause with no worry of bigotry to worry about.

And if a Muslim school should meet reasonable standards, and put the education and welfare of the children first, then there is every reason to support such a school.

ShooterTX
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Oldbear83 said:

Having known some Muslims, I suggest an alternative.

Islam has a long history since its founder received his visions and set about putting sword and torch to the landscape of his birth. Over the many centuries since, the followers of Mohammed range from bloodthirsty berserk fanatics to the inventors of Algebra, from stubborn religious fundamentalists to fantastic authors of poetry and prose. It is therefore unreasonable to cast Muslims only in one light.

Having read the Quran a few times, I am familiar with its main premises, and certainly therefore also its heresies against Christianity. As I said, I also have made acquaintance with some people who are Muslim by either custom, faith, or both, and there is a broader spectrum of opinion among the practices of those people. I attribute this to the fact that speaking with someone from a different culture gives you a more complex idea of their values and ethics. My father worked for decades as a project engineer in the Middle East, and he came to know many Muslims who were impressed with his mind and his ethics. Common ground makes for many bridges.

Regarding Muslims who live in Texas, therefore, I suggest that where their children's education is the topic, that same common ground should lead to common sense guidelines. Just as a school is not qualified for state money simply for being Catholic or a Charter school, so too a Masjid must meet certain clear standards to qualify for state funds. Putting those standards in statutes would be a good thing for all parties concerned, and if a school, no matter its founders, cannot meet that standard, then it would be rejected for appropriate cause with no worry of bigotry to worry about.

And if a Muslim school should meet reasonable standards, and put the education and welfare of the children first, then there is every reason to support such a school.



I understand the reasons for these thoughts.
The problem with Muslims is that they only oppose the radical Muslims when it helps them. Current example: UAE, Saudi Arabia, and other gulf states are now opposing Iran because Iran had attacked them and Iran had been an economic problem for them.
The radicals want to overthrow Texas and force us under Islamic rule. This will benefit the non-radicals, so they will not oppose it and will quietly support it.
This is the problem with Islam. They cannot be trusted. I have lived in Muslim nations and have helped many Muslims convert to Christianity. I have seen the persecution and vile actions of the radical and non-radical Muslims. Every night I heard the screams & crying of women being beaten by their husbands or fathers.
I never lived in the wealthy parts of the cities. I dealt with the common man.
There is not a single Muslim country on this planet where I would prefer to live. Some of them are very beautiful but the satanic oppression of Islam is absolutely horrific.
I will die before I allow the Muslims to do that to our nation.
Get rid of them all, even the "good" ones. So long as they are worshipping Satan via Islam, they cannot be trusted. They will never fully accept the constitution or the bill of rights. They will never integrate. They will always support the Islamic conquering of our nation.
Send them back to their homes, and then send brave missionaries to convert the very few who are rational enough to recognize the truth.
ron.reagan
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ShooterTX said:

Oldbear83 said:

Having known some Muslims, I suggest an alternative.

Islam has a long history since its founder received his visions and set about putting sword and torch to the landscape of his birth. Over the many centuries since, the followers of Mohammed range from bloodthirsty berserk fanatics to the inventors of Algebra, from stubborn religious fundamentalists to fantastic authors of poetry and prose. It is therefore unreasonable to cast Muslims only in one light.

Having read the Quran a few times, I am familiar with its main premises, and certainly therefore also its heresies against Christianity. As I said, I also have made acquaintance with some people who are Muslim by either custom, faith, or both, and there is a broader spectrum of opinion among the practices of those people. I attribute this to the fact that speaking with someone from a different culture gives you a more complex idea of their values and ethics. My father worked for decades as a project engineer in the Middle East, and he came to know many Muslims who were impressed with his mind and his ethics. Common ground makes for many bridges.

Regarding Muslims who live in Texas, therefore, I suggest that where their children's education is the topic, that same common ground should lead to common sense guidelines. Just as a school is not qualified for state money simply for being Catholic or a Charter school, so too a Masjid must meet certain clear standards to qualify for state funds. Putting those standards in statutes would be a good thing for all parties concerned, and if a school, no matter its founders, cannot meet that standard, then it would be rejected for appropriate cause with no worry of bigotry to worry about.

And if a Muslim school should meet reasonable standards, and put the education and welfare of the children first, then there is every reason to support such a school.




I will die before I allow the Muslims to do that to our nation.


I doubt you'd even give up cheeseburgers to prevent this
ShooterTX
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ron.reagan said:

ShooterTX said:

Oldbear83 said:

Having known some Muslims, I suggest an alternative.

Islam has a long history since its founder received his visions and set about putting sword and torch to the landscape of his birth. Over the many centuries since, the followers of Mohammed range from bloodthirsty berserk fanatics to the inventors of Algebra, from stubborn religious fundamentalists to fantastic authors of poetry and prose. It is therefore unreasonable to cast Muslims only in one light.

Having read the Quran a few times, I am familiar with its main premises, and certainly therefore also its heresies against Christianity. As I said, I also have made acquaintance with some people who are Muslim by either custom, faith, or both, and there is a broader spectrum of opinion among the practices of those people. I attribute this to the fact that speaking with someone from a different culture gives you a more complex idea of their values and ethics. My father worked for decades as a project engineer in the Middle East, and he came to know many Muslims who were impressed with his mind and his ethics. Common ground makes for many bridges.

Regarding Muslims who live in Texas, therefore, I suggest that where their children's education is the topic, that same common ground should lead to common sense guidelines. Just as a school is not qualified for state money simply for being Catholic or a Charter school, so too a Masjid must meet certain clear standards to qualify for state funds. Putting those standards in statutes would be a good thing for all parties concerned, and if a school, no matter its founders, cannot meet that standard, then it would be rejected for appropriate cause with no worry of bigotry to worry about.

And if a Muslim school should meet reasonable standards, and put the education and welfare of the children first, then there is every reason to support such a school.




I will die before I allow the Muslims to do that to our nation.


I doubt you'd even give up cheeseburgers to prevent this

Oh look.... the troll came out from under his bridge to make another worthless post!

I'm sure you will be happy to dress up in a goat costume so you can finally get some action from your Muslim overlords.

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ShooterTX said:

Oldbear83 said:

Having known some Muslims, I suggest an alternative.

Islam has a long history since its founder received his visions and set about putting sword and torch to the landscape of his birth. Over the many centuries since, the followers of Mohammed range from bloodthirsty berserk fanatics to the inventors of Algebra, from stubborn religious fundamentalists to fantastic authors of poetry and prose. It is therefore unreasonable to cast Muslims only in one light.

Having read the Quran a few times, I am familiar with its main premises, and certainly therefore also its heresies against Christianity. As I said, I also have made acquaintance with some people who are Muslim by either custom, faith, or both, and there is a broader spectrum of opinion among the practices of those people. I attribute this to the fact that speaking with someone from a different culture gives you a more complex idea of their values and ethics. My father worked for decades as a project engineer in the Middle East, and he came to know many Muslims who were impressed with his mind and his ethics. Common ground makes for many bridges.

Regarding Muslims who live in Texas, therefore, I suggest that where their children's education is the topic, that same common ground should lead to common sense guidelines. Just as a school is not qualified for state money simply for being Catholic or a Charter school, so too a Masjid must meet certain clear standards to qualify for state funds. Putting those standards in statutes would be a good thing for all parties concerned, and if a school, no matter its founders, cannot meet that standard, then it would be rejected for appropriate cause with no worry of bigotry to worry about.

And if a Muslim school should meet reasonable standards, and put the education and welfare of the children first, then there is every reason to support such a school.



I understand the reasons for these thoughts.
The problem with Muslims is that they only oppose the radical Muslims when it helps them. Current example: UAE, Saudi Arabia, and other gulf states are now opposing Iran because Iran had attacked them and Iran had been an economic problem for them.
The radicals want to overthrow Texas and force us under Islamic rule. This will benefit the non-radicals, so they will not oppose it and will quietly support it.
This is the problem with Islam. They cannot be trusted. I have lived in Muslim nations and have helped many Muslims convert to Christianity. I have seen the persecution and vile actions of the radical and non-radical Muslims. Every night I heard the screams & crying of women being beaten by their husbands or fathers.
I never lived in the wealthy parts of the cities. I dealt with the common man.
There is not a single Muslim country on this planet where I would prefer to live. Some of them are very beautiful but the satanic oppression of Islam is absolutely horrific.
I will die before I allow the Muslims to do that to our nation.
Get rid of them all, even the "good" ones. So long as they are worshipping Satan via Islam, they cannot be trusted. They will never fully accept the constitution or the bill of rights. They will never integrate. They will always support the Islamic conquering of our nation.
Send them back to their homes, and then send brave missionaries to convert the very few who are rational enough to recognize the truth.


100% correct
ron.reagan
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ShooterTX said:

ron.reagan said:

ShooterTX said:

Oldbear83 said:

Having known some Muslims, I suggest an alternative.

Islam has a long history since its founder received his visions and set about putting sword and torch to the landscape of his birth. Over the many centuries since, the followers of Mohammed range from bloodthirsty berserk fanatics to the inventors of Algebra, from stubborn religious fundamentalists to fantastic authors of poetry and prose. It is therefore unreasonable to cast Muslims only in one light.

Having read the Quran a few times, I am familiar with its main premises, and certainly therefore also its heresies against Christianity. As I said, I also have made acquaintance with some people who are Muslim by either custom, faith, or both, and there is a broader spectrum of opinion among the practices of those people. I attribute this to the fact that speaking with someone from a different culture gives you a more complex idea of their values and ethics. My father worked for decades as a project engineer in the Middle East, and he came to know many Muslims who were impressed with his mind and his ethics. Common ground makes for many bridges.

Regarding Muslims who live in Texas, therefore, I suggest that where their children's education is the topic, that same common ground should lead to common sense guidelines. Just as a school is not qualified for state money simply for being Catholic or a Charter school, so too a Masjid must meet certain clear standards to qualify for state funds. Putting those standards in statutes would be a good thing for all parties concerned, and if a school, no matter its founders, cannot meet that standard, then it would be rejected for appropriate cause with no worry of bigotry to worry about.

And if a Muslim school should meet reasonable standards, and put the education and welfare of the children first, then there is every reason to support such a school.




I will die before I allow the Muslims to do that to our nation.


I doubt you'd even give up cheeseburgers to prevent this

Oh look.... the troll came out from under his bridge to make another worthless post!

I'm sure you will be happy to dress up in a goat costume so you can finally get some action from your Muslim overlords.



When two groups of idiots fight with each other I prefer to just stand back and make fun
ShooterTX
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ron.reagan said:

ShooterTX said:

ron.reagan said:

ShooterTX said:

Oldbear83 said:

Having known some Muslims, I suggest an alternative.

Islam has a long history since its founder received his visions and set about putting sword and torch to the landscape of his birth. Over the many centuries since, the followers of Mohammed range from bloodthirsty berserk fanatics to the inventors of Algebra, from stubborn religious fundamentalists to fantastic authors of poetry and prose. It is therefore unreasonable to cast Muslims only in one light.

Having read the Quran a few times, I am familiar with its main premises, and certainly therefore also its heresies against Christianity. As I said, I also have made acquaintance with some people who are Muslim by either custom, faith, or both, and there is a broader spectrum of opinion among the practices of those people. I attribute this to the fact that speaking with someone from a different culture gives you a more complex idea of their values and ethics. My father worked for decades as a project engineer in the Middle East, and he came to know many Muslims who were impressed with his mind and his ethics. Common ground makes for many bridges.

Regarding Muslims who live in Texas, therefore, I suggest that where their children's education is the topic, that same common ground should lead to common sense guidelines. Just as a school is not qualified for state money simply for being Catholic or a Charter school, so too a Masjid must meet certain clear standards to qualify for state funds. Putting those standards in statutes would be a good thing for all parties concerned, and if a school, no matter its founders, cannot meet that standard, then it would be rejected for appropriate cause with no worry of bigotry to worry about.

And if a Muslim school should meet reasonable standards, and put the education and welfare of the children first, then there is every reason to support such a school.




I will die before I allow the Muslims to do that to our nation.


I doubt you'd even give up cheeseburgers to prevent this

Oh look.... the troll came out from under his bridge to make another worthless post!

I'm sure you will be happy to dress up in a goat costume so you can finally get some action from your Muslim overlords.



When two groups of idiots fight with each other I prefer to just stand back and make fun

Why are you telling us about your family gatherings?

ron.reagan
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ShooterTX said:

ron.reagan said:

ShooterTX said:

ron.reagan said:

ShooterTX said:

Oldbear83 said:

Having known some Muslims, I suggest an alternative.

Islam has a long history since its founder received his visions and set about putting sword and torch to the landscape of his birth. Over the many centuries since, the followers of Mohammed range from bloodthirsty berserk fanatics to the inventors of Algebra, from stubborn religious fundamentalists to fantastic authors of poetry and prose. It is therefore unreasonable to cast Muslims only in one light.

Having read the Quran a few times, I am familiar with its main premises, and certainly therefore also its heresies against Christianity. As I said, I also have made acquaintance with some people who are Muslim by either custom, faith, or both, and there is a broader spectrum of opinion among the practices of those people. I attribute this to the fact that speaking with someone from a different culture gives you a more complex idea of their values and ethics. My father worked for decades as a project engineer in the Middle East, and he came to know many Muslims who were impressed with his mind and his ethics. Common ground makes for many bridges.

Regarding Muslims who live in Texas, therefore, I suggest that where their children's education is the topic, that same common ground should lead to common sense guidelines. Just as a school is not qualified for state money simply for being Catholic or a Charter school, so too a Masjid must meet certain clear standards to qualify for state funds. Putting those standards in statutes would be a good thing for all parties concerned, and if a school, no matter its founders, cannot meet that standard, then it would be rejected for appropriate cause with no worry of bigotry to worry about.

And if a Muslim school should meet reasonable standards, and put the education and welfare of the children first, then there is every reason to support such a school.




I will die before I allow the Muslims to do that to our nation.


I doubt you'd even give up cheeseburgers to prevent this

Oh look.... the troll came out from under his bridge to make another worthless post!

I'm sure you will be happy to dress up in a goat costume so you can finally get some action from your Muslim overlords.



When two groups of idiots fight with each other I prefer to just stand back and make fun

Why are you telling us about your family gatherings?



Don't you just call that homeschool?
Realitybites
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Oldbear83 said:

Having known some Muslims, I suggest an alternative.

Islam has a long history since its founder received his visions and set about putting sword and torch to the landscape of his birth. Over the many centuries since, the followers of Mohammed range from bloodthirsty berserk fanatics to the inventors of Algebra, from stubborn religious fundamentalists to fantastic authors of poetry and prose. It is therefore unreasonable to cast Muslims only in one light.

Having read the Quran a few times, I am familiar with its main premises, and certainly therefore also its heresies against Christianity. As I said, I also have made acquaintance with some people who are Muslim by either custom, faith, or both, and there is a broader spectrum of opinion among the practices of those people. I attribute this to the fact that speaking with someone from a different culture gives you a more complex idea of their values and ethics. My father worked for decades as a project engineer in the Middle East, and he came to know many Muslims who were impressed with his mind and his ethics. Common ground makes for many bridges.

Regarding Muslims who live in Texas, therefore, I suggest that where their children's education is the topic, that same common ground should lead to common sense guidelines. Just as a school is not qualified for state money simply for being Catholic or a Charter school, so too a Masjid must meet certain clear standards to qualify for state funds. Putting those standards in statutes would be a good thing for all parties concerned, and if a school, no matter its founders, cannot meet that standard, then it would be rejected for appropriate cause with no worry of bigotry to worry about.

And if a Muslim school should meet reasonable standards, and put the education and welfare of the children first, then there is every reason to support such a school.




I'd also say this, having traveled around the world a couple of times and visited more countries than I can count with my fingers and toes.

For some reason, immigrant populations in the United States tend to be a little different - and not necessarily better - than the same populations in their own countries. I haven't really nailed down the reason for this discrepancy, but it is an observation.
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Realitybites said:

Oldbear83 said:

Having known some Muslims, I suggest an alternative.

Islam has a long history since its founder received his visions and set about putting sword and torch to the landscape of his birth. Over the many centuries since, the followers of Mohammed range from bloodthirsty berserk fanatics to the inventors of Algebra, from stubborn religious fundamentalists to fantastic authors of poetry and prose. It is therefore unreasonable to cast Muslims only in one light.

Having read the Quran a few times, I am familiar with its main premises, and certainly therefore also its heresies against Christianity. As I said, I also have made acquaintance with some people who are Muslim by either custom, faith, or both, and there is a broader spectrum of opinion among the practices of those people. I attribute this to the fact that speaking with someone from a different culture gives you a more complex idea of their values and ethics. My father worked for decades as a project engineer in the Middle East, and he came to know many Muslims who were impressed with his mind and his ethics. Common ground makes for many bridges.

Regarding Muslims who live in Texas, therefore, I suggest that where their children's education is the topic, that same common ground should lead to common sense guidelines. Just as a school is not qualified for state money simply for being Catholic or a Charter school, so too a Masjid must meet certain clear standards to qualify for state funds. Putting those standards in statutes would be a good thing for all parties concerned, and if a school, no matter its founders, cannot meet that standard, then it would be rejected for appropriate cause with no worry of bigotry to worry about.

And if a Muslim school should meet reasonable standards, and put the education and welfare of the children first, then there is every reason to support such a school.




I'd also say this, having traveled around the world a couple of times and visited more countries than I can count with my fingers and toes.

For some reason, immigrant populations in the United States tend to be a little different - and not necessarily better - than the same populations in their own countries. I haven't really nailed down the reason for this discrepancy, but it is an observation.

I too have been all over (45 countries) and I tend to agree relative to immigrant population. Very complicated. Here in Thailand, Immigrants from Burma, Loa, Cambodia as here , but considered lesser, hence worker types. My housekeeper is Burmese and I have seen it straight away.
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The amount of fear that the Sharia law bogeyman is creating in Texas boggles my mind. Candidates are whipping the sheep into a full throated bleat.

Muslims make up 1.4% of the population of Texas.

If a mosque or a halal grocery store give you the bloody freakout willies just follow The Drag Show Rule: don't go in.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
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ShooterTX said:

Oldbear83 said:

Having known some Muslims, I suggest an alternative.

Islam has a long history since its founder received his visions and set about putting sword and torch to the landscape of his birth. Over the many centuries since, the followers of Mohammed range from bloodthirsty berserk fanatics to the inventors of Algebra, from stubborn religious fundamentalists to fantastic authors of poetry and prose. It is therefore unreasonable to cast Muslims only in one light.

Having read the Quran a few times, I am familiar with its main premises, and certainly therefore also its heresies against Christianity. As I said, I also have made acquaintance with some people who are Muslim by either custom, faith, or both, and there is a broader spectrum of opinion among the practices of those people. I attribute this to the fact that speaking with someone from a different culture gives you a more complex idea of their values and ethics. My father worked for decades as a project engineer in the Middle East, and he came to know many Muslims who were impressed with his mind and his ethics. Common ground makes for many bridges.

Regarding Muslims who live in Texas, therefore, I suggest that where their children's education is the topic, that same common ground should lead to common sense guidelines. Just as a school is not qualified for state money simply for being Catholic or a Charter school, so too a Masjid must meet certain clear standards to qualify for state funds. Putting those standards in statutes would be a good thing for all parties concerned, and if a school, no matter its founders, cannot meet that standard, then it would be rejected for appropriate cause with no worry of bigotry to worry about.

And if a Muslim school should meet reasonable standards, and put the education and welfare of the children first, then there is every reason to support such a school.



I understand the reasons for these thoughts.
The problem with Muslims is that they only oppose the radical Muslims when it helps them. Current example: UAE, Saudi Arabia, and other gulf states are now opposing Iran because Iran had attacked them and Iran had been an economic problem for them.
The radicals want to overthrow Texas and force us under Islamic rule. This will benefit the non-radicals, so they will not oppose it and will quietly support it.
This is the problem with Islam. They cannot be trusted. I have lived in Muslim nations and have helped many Muslims convert to Christianity. I have seen the persecution and vile actions of the radical and non-radical Muslims. Every night I heard the screams & crying of women being beaten by their husbands or fathers.
I never lived in the wealthy parts of the cities. I dealt with the common man.
There is not a single Muslim country on this planet where I would prefer to live. Some of them are very beautiful but the satanic oppression of Islam is absolutely horrific.
I will die before I allow the Muslims to do that to our nation.
Get rid of them all, even the "good" ones. So long as they are worshipping Satan via Islam, they cannot be trusted. They will never fully accept the constitution or the bill of rights. They will never integrate. They will always support the Islamic conquering of our nation.
Send them back to their homes, and then send brave missionaries to convert the very few who are rational enough to recognize the truth.




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Send them back to their homes, and then send brave missionaries to convert the very few who are rational enough to recognize the truth.

Sort of like we did with Native American children?

Another good example of what is wrong with Islam, Christianity, and religion in general.
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the moderate Muslim / tyrannical death cult schism is a good thing.....

one we need to support.

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ShooterTX
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For those of you who still cannot understand just how evil and dangerous Islam is...



This isn't a school in Gaza... this is in America. The enemy is within our borders. We must purge them if we are to survive.

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J.R. said:

Realitybites said:

Oldbear83 said:

Having known some Muslims, I suggest an alternative.

Islam has a long history since its founder received his visions and set about putting sword and torch to the landscape of his birth. Over the many centuries since, the followers of Mohammed range from bloodthirsty berserk fanatics to the inventors of Algebra, from stubborn religious fundamentalists to fantastic authors of poetry and prose. It is therefore unreasonable to cast Muslims only in one light.

Having read the Quran a few times, I am familiar with its main premises, and certainly therefore also its heresies against Christianity. As I said, I also have made acquaintance with some people who are Muslim by either custom, faith, or both, and there is a broader spectrum of opinion among the practices of those people. I attribute this to the fact that speaking with someone from a different culture gives you a more complex idea of their values and ethics. My father worked for decades as a project engineer in the Middle East, and he came to know many Muslims who were impressed with his mind and his ethics. Common ground makes for many bridges.

Regarding Muslims who live in Texas, therefore, I suggest that where their children's education is the topic, that same common ground should lead to common sense guidelines. Just as a school is not qualified for state money simply for being Catholic or a Charter school, so too a Masjid must meet certain clear standards to qualify for state funds. Putting those standards in statutes would be a good thing for all parties concerned, and if a school, no matter its founders, cannot meet that standard, then it would be rejected for appropriate cause with no worry of bigotry to worry about.

And if a Muslim school should meet reasonable standards, and put the education and welfare of the children first, then there is every reason to support such a school.




I'd also say this, having traveled around the world a couple of times and visited more countries than I can count with my fingers and toes.

For some reason, immigrant populations in the United States tend to be a little different - and not necessarily better - than the same populations in their own countries. I haven't really nailed down the reason for this discrepancy, but it is an observation.

I too have been all over (45 countries) and I tend to agree relative to immigrant population. Very complicated. Here in Thailand, Immigrants from Burma, Loa, Cambodia as here , but considered lesser, hence worker types. My housekeeper is Burmese and I have seen it straight away.

Middle East is similar. When I was in Dharan, guy was out waxing his Porsche everytime I had to go to the Airbase. One day, walked over to ask about the car, have a weakness for Porsche the last true German car. Found out he was a Bangledeshi servant. Owner never even drove it... What a waste of a great car.
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ShooterTX said:

For those of you who still cannot understand just how evil and dangerous Islam is...



This isn't a school in Gaza... this is in America. The enemy is within our borders. We must purge them if we are to survive.



Sec. Hegseth, is that you?
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
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quash said:

ShooterTX said:

For those of you who still cannot understand just how evil and dangerous Islam is...



This isn't a school in Gaza... this is in America. The enemy is within our borders. We must purge them if we are to survive.



Sec. Hegseth, is that you?


So a snarky comment about Hegseth makes the realities of imported Muslim hate disappear ?
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"That is racist"

Left wing nut jobs lol
Oldbear83
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KaiBear said:

quash said:

ShooterTX said:

For those of you who still cannot understand just how evil and dangerous Islam is...



This isn't a school in Gaza... this is in America. The enemy is within our borders. We must purge them if we are to survive.



Sec. Hegseth, is that you?


So a snarky comment about Hegseth makes the realities of imported Muslim hate disappear ?

He was hoping you would not notice his effort, Insh'Allah.
Porteroso
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Extremist rhetoric like that does need to be dealt with. It is threatening. But American Muslins are just not like that for the most part.

I know one family of Muslims, and they are very kind. They would get eaten alive by the zealots in the Middle East.
Johnny Bear
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A common misnomer about Islam is that it's just another world religion like Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc., which it isn't. While there is obviously a religious element, it is intertwined with highly intolerant political and social ideologies that among other things view women at best as second class citizens and virtually like the "property" of men. It is fundamentally antithetical to the Constitution of the USA from the standpoint of separation of Church and State - and is therefore a highly practical threat from at least that standpoint if it ever reaches a place of dominance in America.
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quash said:

The amount of fear that the Sharia law bogeyman is creating in Texas boggles my mind. Candidates are whipping the sheep into a full throated bleat.

Muslims make up 1.4% of the population of Texas.

If a mosque or a halal grocery store give you the bloody freakout willies just follow The Drag Show Rule: don't go in.

All you have to do is look at Europe to know what it looks like in 25 years. We almost let the drag queens take over, but Trump's victory let the nation know it had swung too far. A victory like that needs to happen on the Islam front, to let them know we're not letting them take over either.

It is in their nature to take over. If you do nothing, they will take over. This isn't really up for debate, as we have hundreds of years of history saying the same thing.
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Porteroso said:

Extremist rhetoric like that does need to be dealt with. It is threatening. But American Muslins are just not like that for the most part.

I know one family of Muslims, and they are very kind. They would get eaten alive by the zealots in the Middle East.

They are probably more agnostic than Muslim then.

And I don't know how you can speak for American Muslims by just knowing 1 family.

All you need is a very small, but vocal, and violent, minority of radical Muslims and they will rule over everyone else.
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hodedofome said:

Porteroso said:

Extremist rhetoric like that does need to be dealt with. It is threatening. But American Muslins are just not like that for the most part.

I know one family of Muslims, and they are very kind. They would get eaten alive by the zealots in the Middle East.

They are probably more agnostic than Muslim then.

And I don't know how you can speak for American Muslims by just knowing 1 family.

All you need is a very small, but vocal, and violent, minority of radical Muslims and they will rule over everyone else.


Exactly.
If you have 100 people in the room and 80 of them are "just nice people," it doesn't matter. It's the 20 who will take control of the situation.
And truth be told, it wouldn't surprise if a good number of those 80 "nice people " don't quietly support and believe in what those 20 are saying and doing.
But to be generous, let's say as many as 50 or 60 don't agree. Well we've seen what happens to them.
In the meantime you have a bunch of white guilt, or America guilt, or whatever guilt liberals here in the USA saying there's nothing to see here. Or 'these conservatives are so dramatic. ' Or, 'most of them are such peaceful people.'
And then suddenly you have England. Or Germany. Or France. Who are kowtowing to it. And paying the price.
My bro's best friend is from London. A smart and intuitive guy. He was seeing the writing on the wall years ago and was saddened by it. He said the same thing will happen to the USA if it's not careful.
And now we see liberals at the forefront, leading the way to making sure such things do happen. Be it out of ignorance, or the need to just be antagonistic.
And we've seen plenty of the latter already.
Antagonism towards the police. Antagonism towards ICE, and yes, antagonism towards Christians.
All while they will defend a "religion" that treats women like second class citizens, or is okay with a gay person being thrown off the top of a building.
And consequences equally worse for great numbers of other people. As we have seen happening in Iran.
With all their faux bravado in "standing up for humanity, and what's humane," it's unbelievable what these liberals look the other way on. (You could bring up abortion here, but that easily falls into its own discussion thread).
And what's so ridiculous is here in America guess who will be the first to whine, complain or pee their pants when a LEO is needed and doesn't get there in time. Or if one of their loved ones is, God forbid, harmed because of an illegal criminal, or (in the case of this topic), some "religious" fanatic.
It will be the liberals. Who will be looking for anyone to blame but themselves. Even though they were the ones to facilitate it. Like my brother's friend said, Europe looked the other way on it. Then they actually kowtowed to it. And now there's a problem.
They almost seem to be doubling down on it too, out of fear, or whatever, as they choose inaction over supporting the USA in its attempt to reduce the evils of an evil regime. A regime run by those aforementioned "20 people." And supported, quietly or not, by even more. Including many across Europe, and in the USA.
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quash said:

The amount of fear that the Sharia law bogeyman is creating in Texas boggles my mind. Candidates are whipping the sheep into a full throated bleat.

Muslims make up 1.4% of the population of Texas.

If a mosque or a halal grocery store give you the bloody freakout willies just follow The Drag Show Rule: don't go in.


If I recall correctly, quash belittled the "slippery slope fear" of same-sex unions. His same heroes that were not to be feared continue to be arrested for sexual assault on their adopted children.

The dude has a lousy track record.
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hodedofome said:

Porteroso said:

Extremist rhetoric like that does need to be dealt with. It is threatening. But American Muslins are just not like that for the most part.

I know one family of Muslims, and they are very kind. They would get eaten alive by the zealots in the Middle East.

They are probably more agnostic than Muslim then.

And I don't know how you can speak for American Muslims by just knowing 1 family.

All you need is a very small, but vocal, and violent, minority of radical Muslims and they will rule over everyone else.

We can only speak from our own experiences . One of my best friends is Muslim (Muslim Lite as she says) is of Pakistani decent, but was raised in Calgary and Singapore. Came to Dallas to SMU for MBA. Undergrad McGill. She ended up being a c-suite executive a a little cosmetics company based in Dallas. All that to say is that she is one of the finest humans I know, irrespective of religion.
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TrojanMoondoggie said:

hodedofome said:

Porteroso said:

Extremist rhetoric like that does need to be dealt with. It is threatening. But American Muslins are just not like that for the most part.

I know one family of Muslims, and they are very kind. They would get eaten alive by the zealots in the Middle East.

They are probably more agnostic than Muslim then.

And I don't know how you can speak for American Muslims by just knowing 1 family.

All you need is a very small, but vocal, and violent, minority of radical Muslims and they will rule over everyone else.


Exactly.
If you have 100 people in the room and 80 of them are "just nice people," it doesn't matter. It's the 20 who will take control of the situation.
And truth be told, it wouldn't surprise if a good number of those 80 "nice people " don't quietly support and believe in what those 20 are saying and doing.
But to be generous, let's say as many as 50 or 60 don't agree. Well we've seen what happens to them.
In the meantime you have a bunch of white guilt, or America guilt, or whatever guilt liberals here in the USA saying there's nothing to see here. Or 'these conservatives are so dramatic. ' Or, 'most of them are such peaceful people.'
And then suddenly you have England. Or Germany. Or France. Who are kowtowing to it. And paying the price.
My bro's best friend is from London. A smart and intuitive guy. He was seeing the writing on the wall years ago and was saddened by it. He said the same thing will happen to the USA if it's not careful.
And now we see liberals at the forefront, leading the way to making sure such things do happen. Be it out of ignorance, or the need to just be antagonistic.
And we've seen plenty of the latter already.
Antagonism towards the police. Antagonism towards ICE, and yes, antagonism towards Christians.
All while they will defend a "religion" that treats women like second class citizens, or is okay with a gay person being thrown off the top of a building.
And consequences equally worse for great numbers of other people. As we have seen happening in Iran.
With all their faux bravado in "standing up for humanity, and what's humane," it's unbelievable what these liberals look the other way on. (You could bring up abortion here, but that easily falls into its own discussion thread).
And what's so ridiculous is here in America guess who will be the first to whine, complain or pee their pants when a LEO is needed and doesn't get there in time. Or if one of their loved ones is, God forbid, harmed because of an illegal criminal, or (in the case of this topic), some "religious" fanatic.
It will be the liberals. Who will be looking for anyone to blame but themselves. Even though they were the ones to facilitate it. Like my brother's friend said, Europe looked the other way on it. Then they actually kowtowed to it. And now there's a problem.
They almost seem to be doubling down on it too, out of fear, or whatever, as they choose inaction over supporting the USA in its attempt to reduce the evils of an evil regime. A regime run by those aforementioned "20 people." And supported, quietly or not, by even more. Including many across Europe, and in the USA.

so would it be fair to say you are a Trumpian? Maga?
hodedofome
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J.R. said:

hodedofome said:

Porteroso said:

Extremist rhetoric like that does need to be dealt with. It is threatening. But American Muslins are just not like that for the most part.

I know one family of Muslims, and they are very kind. They would get eaten alive by the zealots in the Middle East.

They are probably more agnostic than Muslim then.

And I don't know how you can speak for American Muslims by just knowing 1 family.

All you need is a very small, but vocal, and violent, minority of radical Muslims and they will rule over everyone else.

We can only speak from our own experiences . One of my best friends is Muslim (Muslim Lite as she says) is of Pakistani decent, but was raised in Calgary and Singapore. Came to Dallas to SMU for MBA. Undergrad McGill. She ended up being a c-suite executive a a little cosmetics company based in Dallas. All that to say is that she is one of the finest humans I know, irrespective of religion.

So let's give all the power to some crazy people following Satan into the end times because you know a nice lady.
Danielsjackson114
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It's Junior. What do you expect? He doesn't even live in the country lol
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hodedofome said:

J.R. said:

hodedofome said:

Porteroso said:

Extremist rhetoric like that does need to be dealt with. It is threatening. But American Muslins are just not like that for the most part.

I know one family of Muslims, and they are very kind. They would get eaten alive by the zealots in the Middle East.

They are probably more agnostic than Muslim then.

And I don't know how you can speak for American Muslims by just knowing 1 family.

All you need is a very small, but vocal, and violent, minority of radical Muslims and they will rule over everyone else.

We can only speak from our own experiences . One of my best friends is Muslim (Muslim Lite as she says) is of Pakistani decent, but was raised in Calgary and Singapore. Came to Dallas to SMU for MBA. Undergrad McGill. She ended up being a c-suite executive a a little cosmetics company based in Dallas. All that to say is that she is one of the finest humans I know, irrespective of religion.

So let's give all the power to some crazy people following Satan into the end times because you know a nice lady.

Follow Satan????
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