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What time is JR getting there?

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No march here in Bangkok . very zen and peaceful unlike Merca. Wouldn't have attended if in US as not my thing, but I commend the 8M Plus who marched to actively voice their displeasure with Trump and what he has done to ur country. I have asked you repeatedly what it is you do or did that makes you such a freaking expert on most everything. You have yet to address because like many here, you are an effing coward! Keep your head down playing video games in your parents basement, Brah!

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Most had no idea why they were out there. Or worse were out there to spread other ideas (like communism)

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a little basic world understanding would be helpful. Thailand is further away from communism than the US is there fella. This ain't Ghina. Commie countries do not have the world most visited city (Bangkok) 35M per year. Thailand is the only country in SE that hasn't been ruled by a foreign power, hence it its own magnificent culture.

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You are so hateful and spiteful that you don't even understand what people are talking about.

I was NOT talking about Thailand or Bangkok.

I was talking about the marches here in the US which you were also talking about.

And what do you mean Bangkok has never been ruled by a foreign power? Japan ruled them for several years during WW2.

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so you not ok with marches there MAGA. I think I. may know the history of my home country, there pal.

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Lol. MAGA??? You clearly don't pay attention if you think I am maga. I criticize Trump all the time. Just today I was talking about how he will lose the midterms for the Republican Party for example.

Again, I was pointing out how the marches here in the US were not just no kings but full of people from lots of other groups. You even talked about it in one of your posts. I responded to that post where you mentioned the marches here in the US.

Then you come back with something about no marches in Thailand and no commies. In a thread about the marches in the US.

As to the history of your country go look it up. Japan invaded and conquered Thailand in 1941. They invaded just hours before the attack on Pearl Harbor but because of the date line it was December 8 there.

Thailand (or at least the puppet government) then joined with the Japanese and were a member of the axis for the rest of the war, declaring war against the US and UK.

During this time Japanese troops were in Thailand and Bangkok.

So please explain how Thailand was not ruled by a foreign power???

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Impressive

You are the first individual I have ever known who realizes Thailand declared war against the United States in World War 2.

Due to severe duress inflicted by the Japanese army.

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If I could have made money being a history professor or writing books on WW2 I would have done so. WW2 is my passion and I would still like to write a book someday on it.

There are several countries that through puppet governments aligned with the axis and even declared war on the US (or other allies). Although most of them, like Thailand, never amounted to much in terms of their troops actually fighting the allies.

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I believe thousands of Indians fought with the Japanese against the British during WW2. They wanted an end of British rule of India.

Same with the Dutch colonies in Southeast Asia. The locals welcomed the Japanese and some fought against the Dutch.

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What time is JR getting there?

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No march here in Bangkok . very zen and peaceful unlike Merca. Wouldn't have attended if in US as not my thing, but I commend the 8M Plus who marched to actively voice their displeasure with Trump and what he has done to ur country. I have asked you repeatedly what it is you do or did that makes you such a freaking expert on most everything. You have yet to address because like many here, you are an effing coward! Keep your head down playing video games in your parents basement, Brah!

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Most had no idea why they were out there. Or worse were out there to spread other ideas (like communism)

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a little basic world understanding would be helpful. Thailand is further away from communism than the US is there fella. This ain't Ghina. Commie countries do not have the world most visited city (Bangkok) 35M per year. Thailand is the only country in SE that hasn't been ruled by a foreign power, hence it its own magnificent culture.

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You are so hateful and spiteful that you don't even understand what people are talking about.

I was NOT talking about Thailand or Bangkok.

I was talking about the marches here in the US which you were also talking about.

And what do you mean Bangkok has never been ruled by a foreign power? Japan ruled them for several years during WW2.

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so you not ok with marches there MAGA. I think I. may know the history of my home country, there pal.

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Lol. MAGA??? You clearly don't pay attention if you think I am maga. I criticize Trump all the time. Just today I was talking about how he will lose the midterms for the Republican Party for example.

Again, I was pointing out how the marches here in the US were not just no kings but full of people from lots of other groups. You even talked about it in one of your posts. I responded to that post where you mentioned the marches here in the US.

Then you come back with something about no marches in Thailand and no commies. In a thread about the marches in the US.

As to the history of your country go look it up. Japan invaded and conquered Thailand in 1941. They invaded just hours before the attack on Pearl Harbor but because of the date line it was December 8 there.

Thailand (or at least the puppet government) then joined with the Japanese and were a member of the axis for the rest of the war, declaring war against the US and UK.

During this time Japanese troops were in Thailand and Bangkok.

So please explain how Thailand was not ruled by a foreign power???

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Impressive

You are the first individual I have ever known who realizes Thailand declared war against the United States in World War 2.

Due to severe duress inflicted by the Japanese army.

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If I could have made money being a history professor or writing books on WW2 I would have done so. WW2 is my passion and I would still like to write a book someday on it.

There are several countries that through puppet governments aligned with the axis and even declared war on the US (or other allies). Although most of them, like Thailand, never amounted to much in terms of their troops actually fighting the allies.

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I believe thousands of Indians fought with the Japanese against the British during WW2. They wanted an end of British rule of India.

Same with the Dutch colonies in Southeast Asia. The locals welcomed the Japanese and some fought against the Dutch.

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Correct.

Same thing happened in Europe with lots of people in basically every country siding with the Nazis, helping and even fighting with them. Especially if you look at ethnic groups in both theaters of the war and not just name of the country.

But that is true of every war. It is not as simple as X fighting Y. There are people in each country that side with the other country, mercenaries, those looking to gain power, or various other reasons to align with the other side.

BUDOS, please.

You have usually been courteous and honest. You certainly know how debate works, especially when you are presenting a counter-intuitive opinion.

This recent set of posts from you is below your usual standard.

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Odd that these people are protesting kings while happily living in a city that confiscates more than half of their income in taxes.

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Anti oligarchy....... yet they support politicians in office for decades, their wives who decide to run, their children, etc.

That is the definition of an oligarchy. And yes the Republicans do this at times as well but I would bet there are more Democratic party "families" then there are Republican.

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With as many personal, psychological and political issues he has the polls prove he is pretty much an embarrassment to the majority of the country and apparently the majority of the world.

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Eats you up that your party is so devoid of ideas that he beats them repeatedly.

Sorry he turned his head.

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I despise the Dems but..... Trump's winning is done. The economy is crashing and he/Republicans will get creamed in the midterms.

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Lotta time between now and the midterms for things to change and improve (possibly dramatically). Pushing the panic button at this juncture is seriously premature at best.

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Not enough time for people to forget him starting a war, the price of gas, the fact that they economy has sucked for his first year plus in office (despite his entire administration saying otherwise), and inflation not going away.

Unless the war stops right now, gas drops and stays low until election day, prices drop quickly and far, and massive pay increases happen then yeah the Repubs are done.

Nothing will change between now and election day in a big enough way for the people to notice.

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Sure there is time between now and when most of the voters even start realizing the midterms are this year for the war to end, for oil to drop back into the $70's or even lower, and for the impact of the BBB to positively impact the economy. Seven months is a long time - politically speaking. And it's not true that at least certain major aspects of inflation weren't brought under control (obviously energy as one example) during Trump's first year before the action in Iran that will likely be ending within the next weeks at most. And let's not forget other major accomplishments like the border being shut down and international respect and strength being restored from the utter disasters those were under dementia's Joe and his clown show.

Hang in there. At a minimum there IS still time - at least as things stand today.

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LOL. Keep telling yourself that.

There is not enough time. People will not forget how expensive stuff is right now. They will not care about the minimal price changes that happened in his first year. Because that is what it was. Minimal price changes on a few items.

The voters won't care about the border being shut (which I like) but they will remember the idiot protesters that were shot by ICE. They will not care about the international strength and respect because that doesn't put money in their pocket.

They care about money in their pocket. And right now Trump has done NOTHING to change that.

Where are the DOGE checks he promised?

Where is the elimination of income tax like he talked about?

Where are the tariff checks like he promised?

You can hold on to hope but after the elections don't cry too much when I come back and say told you so.

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So people are going to blame Trump for not fixing the problems created by the Democrats and, as such, are going to put the Democrats back in charge to fix the problems they created?

I fully expect the dems to win the house, as only once in history has the party not in power during a mid-term not gained seats. That being said, get ready for a full summer of dems being dems during our 250th celebrations.

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LOL.

Yes the common voter is dumb. So they will not look at the deep down issues and who created them. They will just blame the person who said he was going to fix it all starting day one and a year plus in they aren't fixed and in some cases getting worse.

The common voter is not smart enough to realize this is on Biden/the Dems though. That is why they vote for decades in some cities for the same party even as the city literally crumbles around them and gets more violent than third world countries.

So I was in Nashville and got to see one of these. It was peaceful and > 90 percent white folks. Over half were over 45 by my estimates.

As they matched by us, there was probably a thousand or 2 thousand people. Most people were walking by with their signage. A group came by of younger folks who were representing the communist party. about every 200 people, there was a loud person leading chants....some with an amplifier of some sort. Scattered through the crowd were people passing out paperwork to anyone on the sidelines cheering their efforts.

Overall, I can't complain. They did their thing and were only minimally disruptive. I'll admit some of their signs were creative and got a good chuckle from me. I particularly liked one calling Trump the "mango Mussolini". A lot of slogans based on misinfomation. Some still were calling trump an agent of russia.

I think in the end it's a giant therapy session for those that are brought to tears when seeing an image of trump or when hearing his name. It's helpful to those people to know they aren't going through it alone. Part of their therapy to let the world know they are unhappy. As long as there is no destruction or significant disruption, I'm ok with it.

I'm wondering if there is anything on the right that compares. I mean we had to put up with 8 years of obama and 4 years of biden. Maybe a no clowns rally?

If those middle-aged women at the rallies didn't all have abortions, they'd be spending their weekends with their grandkids instead of looking like an idiot on a sidewalk.

It is counter-intuitive for many. However, this topic was related to my thesis decades ago, so, as a moderate conservative who has occasionally been tracking such facets of the research I have been aware of my side of the spectrum's tendency to violence, for awhile. In addition to its strong protection of the constitution, although I fear we have recently veered off it a bit, which we do from time to time. Our system of checks and balances is currently pretty tenuous.

Here are a few resources for what it is worth. Let's see what little results we get from anyone out there.

Analysis: What data shows about political extremist violence | PBS News

Left-Wing Terrorism and Political Violence in the United States: What the Data Tells Us

Does the far right or far left commit more political v...

Right-wing extremist violence is more frequent and more deadly than left-wing violence what the data shows

Study: Left-wing terrorism outpaces far-right attacks for first time in 30 years

A report claims left-wing terrorism is rising. The data paints a complicated picture : NPR

Michael H. Becker, Ph.D. - A comparison of political violence by

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With as many personal, psychological and political issues he has the polls prove he is pretty much an embarrassment to the majority of the country and apparently the majority of the world.

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Eats you up that your party is so devoid of ideas that he beats them repeatedly.

Sorry he turned his head.

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I despise the Dems but..... Trump's winning is done. The economy is crashing and he/Republicans will get creamed in the midterms.

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Lotta time between now and the midterms for things to change and improve (possibly dramatically). Pushing the panic button at this juncture is seriously premature at best.

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Not enough time for people to forget him starting a war, the price of gas, the fact that they economy has sucked for his first year plus in office (despite his entire administration saying otherwise), and inflation not going away.

Unless the war stops right now, gas drops and stays low until election day, prices drop quickly and far, and massive pay increases happen then yeah the Repubs are done.

Nothing will change between now and election day in a big enough way for the people to notice.

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Sure there is time between now and when most of the voters even start realizing the midterms are this year for the war to end, for oil to drop back into the $70's or even lower, and for the impact of the BBB to positively impact the economy. Seven months is a long time - politically speaking. And it's not true that at least certain major aspects of inflation weren't brought under control (obviously energy as one example) during Trump's first year before the action in Iran that will likely be ending within the next weeks at most. And let's not forget other major accomplishments like the border being shut down and international respect and strength being restored from the utter disasters those were under dementia's Joe and his clown show.

Hang in there. At a minimum there IS still time - at least as things stand today.

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LOL. Keep telling yourself that.

There is not enough time. People will not forget how expensive stuff is right now. They will not care about the minimal price changes that happened in his first year. Because that is what it was. Minimal price changes on a few items.

The voters won't care about the border being shut (which I like) but they will remember the idiot protesters that were shot by ICE. They will not care about the international strength and respect because that doesn't put money in their pocket.

They care about money in their pocket. And right now Trump has done NOTHING to change that.

Where are the DOGE checks he promised?

Where is the elimination of income tax like he talked about?

Where are the tariff checks like he promised?

You can hold on to hope but after the elections don't cry too much when I come back and say told you so.

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So people are going to blame Trump for not fixing the problems created by the Democrats and, as such, are going to put the Democrats back in charge to fix the problems they created?

I fully expect the dems to win the house, as only once in history has the party not in power during a mid-term not gained seats. That being said, get ready for a full summer of dems being dems during our 250th celebrations.

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LOL.

Yes the common voter is dumb. So they will not look at the deep down issues and who created them. They will just blame the person who said he was going to fix it all starting day one and a year plus in they aren't fixed and in some cases getting worse.

The common voter is not smart enough to realize this is on Biden/the Dems though. That is why they vote for decades in some cities for the same party even as the city literally crumbles around them and gets more violent than third world countries.

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While as expressed, I disagree that time is up - at least presently - I do agree there are an incredible number of seriously dumb ignorant voters out there incapable of critical thinking skills and their numbers keep growing. My biggest fear is they will ultimately be our undoing as a country. I hope and pray not, but it's sadly and tragically a future possibility.

I sadly agree with much of your comment. The Founding Fathers were counting on an active, informed electorate. Research indicates we are failing miserably. However, there is time as you say. We may disagree on some other issues but not this time.

Thank you. You at least scanned some of the information, and you make two more than I expected. Your summations were what I expected.

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With as many personal, psychological and political issues he has the polls prove he is pretty much an embarrassment to the majority of the country and apparently the majority of the world.

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Eats you up that your party is so devoid of ideas that he beats them repeatedly.

Sorry he turned his head.

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I despise the Dems but..... Trump's winning is done. The economy is crashing and he/Republicans will get creamed in the midterms.

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Lotta time between now and the midterms for things to change and improve (possibly dramatically). Pushing the panic button at this juncture is seriously premature at best.

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Not enough time for people to forget him starting a war, the price of gas, the fact that they economy has sucked for his first year plus in office (despite his entire administration saying otherwise), and inflation not going away.

Unless the war stops right now, gas drops and stays low until election day, prices drop quickly and far, and massive pay increases happen then yeah the Repubs are done.

Nothing will change between now and election day in a big enough way for the people to notice.

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Sure there is time between now and when most of the voters even start realizing the midterms are this year for the war to end, for oil to drop back into the $70's or even lower, and for the impact of the BBB to positively impact the economy. Seven months is a long time - politically speaking. And it's not true that at least certain major aspects of inflation weren't brought under control (obviously energy as one example) during Trump's first year before the action in Iran that will likely be ending within the next weeks at most. And let's not forget other major accomplishments like the border being shut down and international respect and strength being restored from the utter disasters those were under dementia's Joe and his clown show.

Hang in there. At a minimum there IS still time - at least as things stand today.

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LOL. Keep telling yourself that.

There is not enough time. People will not forget how expensive stuff is right now. They will not care about the minimal price changes that happened in his first year. Because that is what it was. Minimal price changes on a few items.

The voters won't care about the border being shut (which I like) but they will remember the idiot protesters that were shot by ICE. They will not care about the international strength and respect because that doesn't put money in their pocket.

They care about money in their pocket. And right now Trump has done NOTHING to change that.

Where are the DOGE checks he promised?

Where is the elimination of income tax like he talked about?

Where are the tariff checks like he promised?

You can hold on to hope but after the elections don't cry too much when I come back and say told you so.

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So people are going to blame Trump for not fixing the problems created by the Democrats and, as such, are going to put the Democrats back in charge to fix the problems they created?

I fully expect the dems to win the house, as only once in history has the party not in power during a mid-term not gained seats. That being said, get ready for a full summer of dems being dems during our 250th celebrations.

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LOL.

Yes the common voter is dumb. So they will not look at the deep down issues and who created them. They will just blame the person who said he was going to fix it all starting day one and a year plus in they aren't fixed and in some cases getting worse.

The common voter is not smart enough to realize this is on Biden/the Dems though. That is why they vote for decades in some cities for the same party even as the city literally crumbles around them and gets more violent than third world countries.

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MAGA people give anyone a run for their money relative to intelligence. MAGA is dumber than a box of hair in most cases.

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With as many personal, psychological and political issues he has the polls prove he is pretty much an embarrassment to the majority of the country and apparently the majority of the world.

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Eats you up that your party is so devoid of ideas that he beats them repeatedly.

Sorry he turned his head.

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I despise the Dems but..... Trump's winning is done. The economy is crashing and he/Republicans will get creamed in the midterms.

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Lotta time between now and the midterms for things to change and improve (possibly dramatically). Pushing the panic button at this juncture is seriously premature at best.

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Not enough time for people to forget him starting a war, the price of gas, the fact that they economy has sucked for his first year plus in office (despite his entire administration saying otherwise), and inflation not going away.

Unless the war stops right now, gas drops and stays low until election day, prices drop quickly and far, and massive pay increases happen then yeah the Repubs are done.

Nothing will change between now and election day in a big enough way for the people to notice.

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Sure there is time between now and when most of the voters even start realizing the midterms are this year for the war to end, for oil to drop back into the $70's or even lower, and for the impact of the BBB to positively impact the economy. Seven months is a long time - politically speaking. And it's not true that at least certain major aspects of inflation weren't brought under control (obviously energy as one example) during Trump's first year before the action in Iran that will likely be ending within the next weeks at most. And let's not forget other major accomplishments like the border being shut down and international respect and strength being restored from the utter disasters those were under dementia's Joe and his clown show.

Hang in there. At a minimum there IS still time - at least as things stand today.

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LOL. Keep telling yourself that.

There is not enough time. People will not forget how expensive stuff is right now. They will not care about the minimal price changes that happened in his first year. Because that is what it was. Minimal price changes on a few items.

The voters won't care about the border being shut (which I like) but they will remember the idiot protesters that were shot by ICE. They will not care about the international strength and respect because that doesn't put money in their pocket.

They care about money in their pocket. And right now Trump has done NOTHING to change that.

Where are the DOGE checks he promised?

Where is the elimination of income tax like he talked about?

Where are the tariff checks like he promised?

You can hold on to hope but after the elections don't cry too much when I come back and say told you so.

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So people are going to blame Trump for not fixing the problems created by the Democrats and, as such, are going to put the Democrats back in charge to fix the problems they created?

I fully expect the dems to win the house, as only once in history has the party not in power during a mid-term not gained seats. That being said, get ready for a full summer of dems being dems during our 250th celebrations.

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LOL.

Yes the common voter is dumb. So they will not look at the deep down issues and who created them. They will just blame the person who said he was going to fix it all starting day one and a year plus in they aren't fixed and in some cases getting worse.

The common voter is not smart enough to realize this is on Biden/the Dems though. That is why they vote for decades in some cities for the same party even as the city literally crumbles around them and gets more violent than third world countries.

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While as expressed, I disagree that time is up - at least presently - I do agree there are an incredible number of seriously dumb ignorant voters out there incapable of critical thinking skills and their numbers keep growing. My biggest fear is they will ultimately be our undoing as a country. I hope and pray not, but it's sadly and tragically a future possibility.

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Agreed.

Years ago one of the late shows used to do a bit where they sent a guy and camera out to record random people answering questions and they would get basic ones wrong like "Name a country in Europe?" And they would answer random countries all over the world or say things like isn't it a country.

Now on social media you see people post hundreds of such videos, sometimes total setups and fake but sometimes real.

Like one I think is real where someone asked one of the protesters this weekend if it was wrong to focus on the Straights of Hormuz and exclude the gays of Hormuz. She answered something like absolutely. It is 100% wrong and we need to be inclusive of them as well and not forget they are a marginalized people.

And that is the type of voter we have. The ones who would stand in line for a free $7K but ignore the line for a free 7 million Pennie's not understanding that is more.

Stereotyping is often a sign of a closed mind or at least a lazy one. A MAGA voter may have certain tendencies, but rarely fits every characteristic of what one might term a MAGA.

MAGA (Make America Great Again) voters are primarily characterized by intense personal loyalty to Donald Trump, a preference for strong authority, and a desire to reverse perceived national decline. They tend to be white, male, older, rural or small-town based, and conservative, often prioritizing issues like immigration, gun rights, and cultural conservatism.

Key Characteristics and Beliefs:

Demographics:
Majority are white, male, over 65, and frequently retired or working-class, with many lacking a college degree.

Political Ideology:
They are highly conservative, often aligning with Christian nationalism, and show high levels of support for traditional, patriarchal values.

Leader Loyalty:
Their allegiance is intensely personal to Donald Trump rather than to the Republican party institution.

Core Issues:
Key priorities include strict immigration control, gun rights, anti-abortion policies, and protectionist trade policies.

Psychological/Attitudinal Traits:
Research indicates high levels of authoritarianism (submission to authority), social dominance orientation (wanting their group on top), and a strong sense of grievance regarding social change.

Beliefs/Values:
They often believe the 2020 election was stolen, believe the Jan. 6 Capitol riot was carried out by opponents, and feel that cultural changes are harming the country.

Combative Stance:
The movement is known for high-intensity partisanship and a combative approach to politics.MAGA voters are not a monolithic group but are often categorized into sub-groups ranging from "Hardliners" (deeply loyal and religious) to "Anti-Woke Conservatives" (focused on cultural issues). They are generally defined by a "us vs. them" mindset and a strong desire to preserve traditional social hierarchies.

MAGA voters are not a monolithic group but are often categorized into sub-groups ranging from "Hardliners" (deeply loyal and religious) to "Anti-Woke Conservatives" (focused on cultural issues). They are generally defined by a "us vs. them" mindset and a strong desire to preserve traditional social hierarchies.

It's an intentional copy and paste, and it's neither the first nor the last, and I don't mean to sound rude or harsh.
As a hypocrite who tries to shy away from stereotyping, one of my efforts was to show that it's done too often and is too often at least partially wrong, in my opinion.

I am waiting for the game to start. Hopefully we will have the opportunity to play Oklahoma next. Curious how the off season, the portal and player development plays out as Coach prepares for next season.

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Stereotyping is often a sign of a closed mind or at least a lazy one. A MAGA voter may have certain tendencies, but rarely fits every characteristic of what one might term a MAGA.

MAGA (Make America Great Again) voters are primarily characterized by intense personal loyalty to Donald Trump, a preference for strong authority, and a desire to reverse perceived national decline. They tend to be white, male, older, rural or small-town based, and conservative, often prioritizing issues like immigration, gun rights, and cultural conservatism.

Key Characteristics and Beliefs:

Demographics:
Majority are white, male, over 65, and frequently retired or working-class, with many lacking a college degree.

Political Ideology:
They are highly conservative, often aligning with Christian nationalism, and show high levels of support for traditional, patriarchal values.

Leader Loyalty:
Their allegiance is intensely personal to Donald Trump rather than to the Republican party institution.

Core Issues:
Key priorities include strict immigration control, gun rights, anti-abortion policies, and protectionist trade policies.

Psychological/Attitudinal Traits:
Research indicates high levels of authoritarianism (submission to authority), social dominance orientation (wanting their group on top), and a strong sense of grievance regarding social change.

Beliefs/Values:
They often believe the 2020 election was stolen, believe the Jan. 6 Capitol riot was carried out by opponents, and feel that cultural changes are harming the country.

Combative Stance:
The movement is known for high-intensity partisanship and a combative approach to politics.MAGA voters are not a monolithic group but are often categorized into sub-groups ranging from "Hardliners" (deeply loyal and religious) to "Anti-Woke Conservatives" (focused on cultural issues). They are generally defined by a "us vs. them" mindset and a strong desire to preserve traditional social hierarchies.

MAGA voters are not a monolithic group but are often categorized into sub-groups ranging from "Hardliners" (deeply loyal and religious) to "Anti-Woke Conservatives" (focused on cultural issues). They are generally defined by a "us vs. them" mindset and a strong desire to preserve traditional social hierarchies.

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Ummm ok. No clue why you are giving me this as I was not the one that called maga voters anything.

My bad. I just hit reply as I was trying to locate the MBB and made the mistake.

Point taken.
Perhaps it matters who kisses "it."

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GrowlTowel said:

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cowboycwr said:

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Johnny Bear said:

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cowboycwr said:

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Johnny Bear said:

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cowboycwr said:

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BUDOS said:

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With as many personal, psychological and political issues he has the polls prove he is pretty much an embarrassment to the majority of the country and apparently the majority of the world.

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Eats you up that your party is so devoid of ideas that he beats them repeatedly.

Sorry he turned his head.

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I despise the Dems but..... Trump's winning is done. The economy is crashing and he/Republicans will get creamed in the midterms.

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Lotta time between now and the midterms for things to change and improve (possibly dramatically). Pushing the panic button at this juncture is seriously premature at best.

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Not enough time for people to forget him starting a war, the price of gas, the fact that they economy has sucked for his first year plus in office (despite his entire administration saying otherwise), and inflation not going away.

Unless the war stops right now, gas drops and stays low until election day, prices drop quickly and far, and massive pay increases happen then yeah the Repubs are done.

Nothing will change between now and election day in a big enough way for the people to notice.

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Sure there is time between now and when most of the voters even start realizing the midterms are this year for the war to end, for oil to drop back into the $70's or even lower, and for the impact of the BBB to positively impact the economy. Seven months is a long time - politically speaking. And it's not true that at least certain major aspects of inflation weren't brought under control (obviously energy as one example) during Trump's first year before the action in Iran that will likely be ending within the next weeks at most. And let's not forget other major accomplishments like the border being shut down and international respect and strength being restored from the utter disasters those were under dementia's Joe and his clown show.

Hang in there. At a minimum there IS still time - at least as things stand today.

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LOL. Keep telling yourself that.

There is not enough time. People will not forget how expensive stuff is right now. They will not care about the minimal price changes that happened in his first year. Because that is what it was. Minimal price changes on a few items.

The voters won't care about the border being shut (which I like) but they will remember the idiot protesters that were shot by ICE. They will not care about the international strength and respect because that doesn't put money in their pocket.

They care about money in their pocket. And right now Trump has done NOTHING to change that.

Where are the DOGE checks he promised?

Where is the elimination of income tax like he talked about?

Where are the tariff checks like he promised?

You can hold on to hope but after the elections don't cry too much when I come back and say told you so.

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So people are going to blame Trump for not fixing the problems created by the Democrats and, as such, are going to put the Democrats back in charge to fix the problems they created?

I fully expect the dems to win the house, as only once in history has the party not in power during a mid-term not gained seats. That being said, get ready for a full summer of dems being dems during our 250th celebrations.

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LOL.

Yes the common voter is dumb. So they will not look at the deep down issues and who created them. They will just blame the person who said he was going to fix it all starting day one and a year plus in they aren't fixed and in some cases getting worse.

The common voter is not smart enough to realize this is on Biden/the Dems though. That is why they vote for decades in some cities for the same party even as the city literally crumbles around them and gets more violent than third world countries.

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MAGA people give anyone a run for their money relative to intelligence. MAGA is dumber than a box of hair in most cases.

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Lol. Says the guy that claims to know history, gets schooled on it and now ignores it.

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I don't ignore anything, clown. If I'm incorrect, I admit it. Don't have all the answers. My history is today getting the Trumpian O&G own goal. You wouldn't know anything about starting and running a company. Go Donnie. keep blowing chit up. You good for biz , you Orange fat *****.

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Stereotyping is often a sign of a closed mind or at least a lazy one. A MAGA voter may have certain tendencies, but rarely fits every characteristic of what one might term a MAGA.

MAGA (Make America Great Again) voters are primarily characterized by intense personal loyalty to Donald Trump, a preference for strong authority, and a desire to reverse perceived national decline. They tend to be white, male, older, rural or small-town based, and conservative, often prioritizing issues like immigration, gun rights, and cultural conservatism.

Key Characteristics and Beliefs:

Demographics:
Majority are white, male, over 65, and frequently retired or working-class, with many lacking a college degree.

Political Ideology:
They are highly conservative, often aligning with Christian nationalism, and show high levels of support for traditional, patriarchal values.

Leader Loyalty:
Their allegiance is intensely personal to Donald Trump rather than to the Republican party institution.

Core Issues:
Key priorities include strict immigration control, gun rights, anti-abortion policies, and protectionist trade policies.

Psychological/Attitudinal Traits:
Research indicates high levels of authoritarianism (submission to authority), social dominance orientation (wanting their group on top), and a strong sense of grievance regarding social change.

Beliefs/Values:
They often believe the 2020 election was stolen, believe the Jan. 6 Capitol riot was carried out by opponents, and feel that cultural changes are harming the country.

Combative Stance:
The movement is known for high-intensity partisanship and a combative approach to politics.MAGA voters are not a monolithic group but are often categorized into sub-groups ranging from "Hardliners" (deeply loyal and religious) to "Anti-Woke Conservatives" (focused on cultural issues). They are generally defined by a "us vs. them" mindset and a strong desire to preserve traditional social hierarchies.

MAGA voters are not a monolithic group but are often categorized into sub-groups ranging from "Hardliners" (deeply loyal and religious) to "Anti-Woke Conservatives" (focused on cultural issues). They are generally defined by a "us vs. them" mindset and a strong desire to preserve traditional social hierarchies.

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I'm sorry, but we disagree on MAGGOTs. I said, generally, not all are just not bright, worldly, or cognizant . I'm just glad maga is going the way of the Tea Party. Trump ain't right, even for Trump. keep blowing chit up , Donnie. you good for biz, donnie

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Waco1947 said:

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Of course, we have not had a king over the USA, but Trump acts like he is a king. Hence, No Kings.

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" Trump acts like he is a king March"

Just doesnt have the same ring, eh?

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Did you ever get a job, Assman or you still living on us taxpayers?