https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/as-measles-takes-toll-on-kids-anti-vaxxers-have-change-of-heart/ar-AA21iL9p

Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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It was a tipping point for the 40-year-old stay-at-home mom who had grown up in a staunchly anti-vaccine, fundamentalist Christian community. "What are we doing? Why are we doing this?" she remembers thinking. "I wanted to protect my kids."

She took all six of them to get the measles, mumps and rubella shot. Then she posted an emotional TikTok aimed at the anti-vax crowd she used to be a part of: "You can change your mind," she said in the video that's been watched more than 422,000 times.

Osodecentx said:

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/as-measles-takes-toll-on-kids-anti-vaxxers-have-change-of-heart/ar-AA21iL9p

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It was a tipping point for the 40-year-old stay-at-home mom who had grown up in a staunchly anti-vaccine, fundamentalist Christian community. "What are we doing? Why are we doing this?" she remembers thinking. "I wanted to protect my kids."

She took all six of them to get the measles, mumps and rubella shot. Then she posted an emotional TikTok aimed at the anti-vax crowd she used to be a part of: "You can change your mind," she said in the video that's been watched more than 422,000 times.

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*** are these fathers doing? *****, we vaccinate our kids. See how easy that is?

Osodecentx said:

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/as-measles-takes-toll-on-kids-anti-vaxxers-have-change-of-heart/ar-AA21iL9p

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It was a tipping point for the 40-year-old stay-at-home mom who had grown up in a staunchly anti-vaccine, fundamentalist Christian community. "What are we doing? Why are we doing this?" she remembers thinking. "I wanted to protect my kids."

She took all six of them to get the measles, mumps and rubella shot. Then she posted an emotional TikTok aimed at the anti-vax crowd she used to be a part of: "You can change your mind," she said in the video that's been watched more than 422,000 times.

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It's good her children weren't injured by the vaccine. She is one of the lucky ones.

Some, such as my family, aren't so lucky.

Mothra said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/as-measles-takes-toll-on-kids-anti-vaxxers-have-change-of-heart/ar-AA21iL9p

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It was a tipping point for the 40-year-old stay-at-home mom who had grown up in a staunchly anti-vaccine, fundamentalist Christian community. "What are we doing? Why are we doing this?" she remembers thinking. "I wanted to protect my kids."

She took all six of them to get the measles, mumps and rubella shot. Then she posted an emotional TikTok aimed at the anti-vax crowd she used to be a part of: "You can change your mind," she said in the video that's been watched more than 422,000 times.

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It's good her children weren't injured by the vaccine. She is one of the lucky ones.

Some, such as my family, aren't so lucky.

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The MMR vaccine (measles, mumps, and rubella) is considered safe for the vast majority of children. Serious side effects are very rare. According to research and data from sources like the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the World Health Organization (WHO), the likelihood of a child being harmed by the MMR vaccine is extremely low.
Here are some key points based on the available evidence:
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Common side effects: Mild reactions like fever, a rash, or temporary joint pain may occur, but these are typically short-lived and are not considered harmful in the long term.

Serious side effects: The risk of more serious side effects like an allergic reaction, seizures from fever, or a temporary drop in platelet count is very low. For example, the risk of having a severe allergic reaction is about 1 in 1 million doses.

Link to autism: Extensive studies have shown no connection between the MMR vaccine and autism. This myth originated from a now-discredited study published in 1998 by Andrew Wakefield, who was later found guilty of ethical violations. Multiple large-scale studies have confirmed that the MMR vaccine does not cause autism.

Risk vs. benefit: The benefits of the MMR vaccine in preventing measles, mumps, and rubella far outweigh the very small risk of side effects. These diseases can cause severe complications, including brain damage, hearing loss, and even death.

[/ol]
In summary, the percentage of kids harmed by the MMR vaccine is incredibly low. The vaccine's benefits in preventing serious diseases far exceed the risks of side effects.

Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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Mothra said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/as-measles-takes-toll-on-kids-anti-vaxxers-have-change-of-heart/ar-AA21iL9p

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It was a tipping point for the 40-year-old stay-at-home mom who had grown up in a staunchly anti-vaccine, fundamentalist Christian community. "What are we doing? Why are we doing this?" she remembers thinking. "I wanted to protect my kids."

She took all six of them to get the measles, mumps and rubella shot. Then she posted an emotional TikTok aimed at the anti-vax crowd she used to be a part of: "You can change your mind," she said in the video that's been watched more than 422,000 times.

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It's good her children weren't injured by the vaccine. She is one of the lucky ones.

Some, such as my family, aren't so lucky.

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The MMR vaccine (measles, mumps, and rubella) is considered safe for the vast majority of children. Serious side effects are very rare. According to research and data from sources like the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the World Health Organization (WHO), the likelihood of a child being harmed by the MMR vaccine is extremely low.
Here are some key points based on the available evidence:
[ol]

Common side effects: Mild reactions like fever, a rash, or temporary joint pain may occur, but these are typically short-lived and are not considered harmful in the long term.

Serious side effects: The risk of more serious side effects like an allergic reaction, seizures from fever, or a temporary drop in platelet count is very low. For example, the risk of having a severe allergic reaction is about 1 in 1 million doses.

Link to autism: Extensive studies have shown no connection between the MMR vaccine and autism. This myth originated from a now-discredited study published in 1998 by Andrew Wakefield, who was later found guilty of ethical violations. Multiple large-scale studies have confirmed that the MMR vaccine does not cause autism.

Risk vs. benefit: The benefits of the MMR vaccine in preventing measles, mumps, and rubella far outweigh the very small risk of side effects. These diseases can cause severe complications, including brain damage, hearing loss, and even death.

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In summary, the percentage of kids harmed by the MMR vaccine is incredibly low. The vaccine's benefits in preventing serious diseases far exceed the risks of side effects.

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Like I said, some families, like my own, aren't so lucky. Some are harmed, permanently.

I had measles and it took zero toll on me. Same for all my younger 5 siblings. Of course, that was back when people didn't go around afraid of their own shadow.

Mothra said:

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Mothra said:

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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Mothra said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/as-measles-takes-toll-on-kids-anti-vaxxers-have-change-of-heart/ar-AA21iL9p

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It was a tipping point for the 40-year-old stay-at-home mom who had grown up in a staunchly anti-vaccine, fundamentalist Christian community. "What are we doing? Why are we doing this?" she remembers thinking. "I wanted to protect my kids."

She took all six of them to get the measles, mumps and rubella shot. Then she posted an emotional TikTok aimed at the anti-vax crowd she used to be a part of: "You can change your mind," she said in the video that's been watched more than 422,000 times.

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It's good her children weren't injured by the vaccine. She is one of the lucky ones.

Some, such as my family, aren't so lucky.

---

The MMR vaccine (measles, mumps, and rubella) is considered safe for the vast majority of children. Serious side effects are very rare. According to research and data from sources like the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the World Health Organization (WHO), the likelihood of a child being harmed by the MMR vaccine is extremely low.
Here are some key points based on the available evidence:
[ol]

Common side effects: Mild reactions like fever, a rash, or temporary joint pain may occur, but these are typically short-lived and are not considered harmful in the long term.

Serious side effects: The risk of more serious side effects like an allergic reaction, seizures from fever, or a temporary drop in platelet count is very low. For example, the risk of having a severe allergic reaction is about 1 in 1 million doses.

Link to autism: Extensive studies have shown no connection between the MMR vaccine and autism. This myth originated from a now-discredited study published in 1998 by Andrew Wakefield, who was later found guilty of ethical violations. Multiple large-scale studies have confirmed that the MMR vaccine does not cause autism.

Risk vs. benefit: The benefits of the MMR vaccine in preventing measles, mumps, and rubella far outweigh the very small risk of side effects. These diseases can cause severe complications, including brain damage, hearing loss, and even death.

[/ol]
In summary, the percentage of kids harmed by the MMR vaccine is incredibly low. The vaccine's benefits in preventing serious diseases far exceed the risks of side effects.

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Like I said, some families, like my own, aren't so lucky. Some are harmed, permanently.

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but ya'll are so rare, you can be disregarded - Big Pharma

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Yeah, let's just get rid of all vaccines since one person might be harmed. Who gives a damn about the other millions that could suffer. Your logic is about as brain dead as you are.

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This is what you would call a straw man argument.

Speaking of being brain dead, nobody has said "let's just get rid of all vaccines." Nobody. So let's dispense with that silly straw man argument.

What I have suggested, Kennedy has suggested, and a lot of doctors have suggested, is let's take a look at our vaccine schedule to make sure it's not overdoing it. Let's make sure that the vaccines are as safe as they can be, fully tested. Let's make sure the exponential increase in vaccines since the mid-80s (and the exponential rise in childhood conditions) is not harming our children. Let's make sure all children are safe from the negative repercussions of vaccines. Let's make sure their bodies can take them.

Had that been done, my oldest child's compromised immune system and genetic mutation would have been found, and he would not have contracted encephalitis and the resulting brain damage. If that had happened, he would not have gotten autism. He and many others like him.

It's not just one child, but thousands that are injured like my son every year. So let's also stop pretending only one child suffered negative repercussions. While my son's was way worse than most, there are numerous documented vaccine injuries. These are undisputed facts.

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Are you recommending that children not receive the measles vaccine?

Osodecentx said:

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Mothra said:

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Mothra said:

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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Mothra said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/as-measles-takes-toll-on-kids-anti-vaxxers-have-change-of-heart/ar-AA21iL9p

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It was a tipping point for the 40-year-old stay-at-home mom who had grown up in a staunchly anti-vaccine, fundamentalist Christian community. "What are we doing? Why are we doing this?" she remembers thinking. "I wanted to protect my kids."

She took all six of them to get the measles, mumps and rubella shot. Then she posted an emotional TikTok aimed at the anti-vax crowd she used to be a part of: "You can change your mind," she said in the video that's been watched more than 422,000 times.

---

It's good her children weren't injured by the vaccine. She is one of the lucky ones.

Some, such as my family, aren't so lucky.

---

The MMR vaccine (measles, mumps, and rubella) is considered safe for the vast majority of children. Serious side effects are very rare. According to research and data from sources like the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the World Health Organization (WHO), the likelihood of a child being harmed by the MMR vaccine is extremely low.
Here are some key points based on the available evidence:
[ol]

Common side effects: Mild reactions like fever, a rash, or temporary joint pain may occur, but these are typically short-lived and are not considered harmful in the long term.

Serious side effects: The risk of more serious side effects like an allergic reaction, seizures from fever, or a temporary drop in platelet count is very low. For example, the risk of having a severe allergic reaction is about 1 in 1 million doses.

Link to autism: Extensive studies have shown no connection between the MMR vaccine and autism. This myth originated from a now-discredited study published in 1998 by Andrew Wakefield, who was later found guilty of ethical violations. Multiple large-scale studies have confirmed that the MMR vaccine does not cause autism.

Risk vs. benefit: The benefits of the MMR vaccine in preventing measles, mumps, and rubella far outweigh the very small risk of side effects. These diseases can cause severe complications, including brain damage, hearing loss, and even death.

[/ol]
In summary, the percentage of kids harmed by the MMR vaccine is incredibly low. The vaccine's benefits in preventing serious diseases far exceed the risks of side effects.

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Like I said, some families, like my own, aren't so lucky. Some are harmed, permanently.

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but ya'll are so rare, you can be disregarded - Big Pharma

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Yeah, let's just get rid of all vaccines since one person might be harmed. Who gives a damn about the other millions that could suffer. Your logic is about as brain dead as you are.

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This is what you would call a straw man argument.

Speaking of being brain dead, nobody has said "let's just get rid of all vaccines." Nobody. So let's dispense with that silly straw man argument.

What I have suggested, Kennedy has suggested, and a lot of doctors have suggested, is let's take a look at our vaccine schedule to make sure it's not overdoing it. Let's make sure that the vaccines are as safe as they can be, fully tested. Let's make sure the exponential increase in vaccines since the mid-80s (and the exponential rise in childhood conditions) is not harming our children. Let's make sure all children are safe from the negative repercussions of vaccines. Let's make sure their bodies can take them.

Had that been done, my oldest child's compromised immune system and genetic mutation would have been found, and he would not have contracted encephalitis and the resulting brain damage. If that had happened, he would not have gotten autism. He and many others like him.

It's not just one child, but thousands that are injured like my son every year. So let's also stop pretending only one child suffered negative repercussions. While my son's was way worse than most, there are numerous documented vaccine injuries. These are undisputed facts.

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Are you recommending that children not receive the measles vaccine?

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No. I am recommending what I said in my previous post. That may result in some children not taking the vaccine (like my son). But my recommendations are above.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who has sought to roll back longstanding vaccine policy, testified that the measles vaccine is safe and effective "for most people" and agreed it was safer than getting measles.

Osodecentx said:

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Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who has sought to roll back longstanding vaccine policy, testified that the measles vaccine is safe and effective "for most people" and agreed it was safer than getting measles.

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Most people is not all people. That's my point, and his.

Mothra said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who has sought to roll back longstanding vaccine policy, testified that the measles vaccine is safe and effective "for most people" and agreed it was safer than getting measles.

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Most people is not all people. That's my point, and his.

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In regard to vaccines, what is all people? Isn't the ridk of not taking the vaccine greater than the risk of taking it?

Osodecentx said:

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Mothra said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who has sought to roll back longstanding vaccine policy, testified that the measles vaccine is safe and effective "for most people" and agreed it was safer than getting measles.

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Most people is not all people. That's my point, and his.

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In regard to vaccines, what is all people?

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I am not sure what you mean. I think I expressed my thoughts very succinctly and consistently. Vaccines are not for all children, like my son.

Not sure what else there is to say or why further clarification is required.

Mothra said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Mothra said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who has sought to roll back longstanding vaccine policy, testified that the measles vaccine is safe and effective "for most people" and agreed it was safer than getting measles.

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Most people is not all people. That's my point, and his.

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In regard to vaccines, what is all people?

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I am not sure what you mean. I think I expressed my thoughts very succinctly and consistently. Vaccines are not for all children, like my son.

Not sure what else there is to say or why further clarification is required.

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My post wasn't clear, I just clarified it.
Isn't the risk of not taking the measles vaccine greater than not taking it. Nothing is 100%

Measles deaths in the U.S. are rare due to high vaccination rates, but resurged in 20252026 with 3 reported deaths in 2025 and new fatalities in Texas and New Mexico in early 2026.

Mothra said:

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Mothra said:

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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Mothra said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/as-measles-takes-toll-on-kids-anti-vaxxers-have-change-of-heart/ar-AA21iL9p

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It was a tipping point for the 40-year-old stay-at-home mom who had grown up in a staunchly anti-vaccine, fundamentalist Christian community. "What are we doing? Why are we doing this?" she remembers thinking. "I wanted to protect my kids."

She took all six of them to get the measles, mumps and rubella shot. Then she posted an emotional TikTok aimed at the anti-vax crowd she used to be a part of: "You can change your mind," she said in the video that's been watched more than 422,000 times.

---

It's good her children weren't injured by the vaccine. She is one of the lucky ones.

Some, such as my family, aren't so lucky.

---

The MMR vaccine (measles, mumps, and rubella) is considered safe for the vast majority of children. Serious side effects are very rare. According to research and data from sources like the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the World Health Organization (WHO), the likelihood of a child being harmed by the MMR vaccine is extremely low.
Here are some key points based on the available evidence:
[ol]

Common side effects: Mild reactions like fever, a rash, or temporary joint pain may occur, but these are typically short-lived and are not considered harmful in the long term.

Serious side effects: The risk of more serious side effects like an allergic reaction, seizures from fever, or a temporary drop in platelet count is very low. For example, the risk of having a severe allergic reaction is about 1 in 1 million doses.

Link to autism: Extensive studies have shown no connection between the MMR vaccine and autism. This myth originated from a now-discredited study published in 1998 by Andrew Wakefield, who was later found guilty of ethical violations. Multiple large-scale studies have confirmed that the MMR vaccine does not cause autism.

Risk vs. benefit: The benefits of the MMR vaccine in preventing measles, mumps, and rubella far outweigh the very small risk of side effects. These diseases can cause severe complications, including brain damage, hearing loss, and even death.

[/ol]
In summary, the percentage of kids harmed by the MMR vaccine is incredibly low. The vaccine's benefits in preventing serious diseases far exceed the risks of side effects.

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Like I said, some families, like my own, aren't so lucky. Some are harmed, permanently.

---

but ya'll are so rare, you can be disregarded - Big Pharma

---

Yeah, let's just get rid of all vaccines since one person might be harmed. Who gives a damn about the other millions that could suffer. Your logic is about as brain dead as you are.

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This is what you would call a straw man argument.

Speaking of being brain dead, nobody has said "let's just get rid of all vaccines." Nobody. So let's dispense with that silly straw man argument.

What I have suggested, Kennedy has suggested, and a lot of doctors have suggested, is let's take a look at our vaccine schedule to make sure it's not overdoing it. Let's make sure that the vaccines are as safe as they can be, fully tested. Let's make sure the exponential increase in vaccines since the mid-80s (and the exponential rise in childhood conditions) is not harming our children. Let's make sure all children are safe from the negative repercussions of vaccines. Let's make sure their bodies can take them.

Had that been done, my oldest child's compromised immune system and genetic mutation would have been found, and he would not have contracted encephalitis and the resulting brain damage. If that had happened, he would not have gotten autism. He and many others like him.

It's not just one child, but thousands that are injured like my son every year. So let's also stop pretending only one child suffered negative repercussions. While my son's was way worse than most, there are numerous documented vaccine injuries. These are undisputed facts.

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This is what I call a straw man argument. Thousands are not injured every year. That is a complete lie. The studies have been done over and over again and the vaccines are safe except in very rare circumstances and the benefits of vaccines far outweigh any potential negatives. Any decent scientist agrees with this too.

What I find interesting is how you completely gloss over the fact what would have happened if your child caught MMR in the wild? You completely disregard how he might have reacted if he actually caught any of those diseases. It's possible his injuries could have been worse, but you discount that completely.

Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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Mothra said:

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Mothra said:

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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Mothra said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/as-measles-takes-toll-on-kids-anti-vaxxers-have-change-of-heart/ar-AA21iL9p

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It was a tipping point for the 40-year-old stay-at-home mom who had grown up in a staunchly anti-vaccine, fundamentalist Christian community. "What are we doing? Why are we doing this?" she remembers thinking. "I wanted to protect my kids."

She took all six of them to get the measles, mumps and rubella shot. Then she posted an emotional TikTok aimed at the anti-vax crowd she used to be a part of: "You can change your mind," she said in the video that's been watched more than 422,000 times.

---

It's good her children weren't injured by the vaccine. She is one of the lucky ones.

Some, such as my family, aren't so lucky.

---

The MMR vaccine (measles, mumps, and rubella) is considered safe for the vast majority of children. Serious side effects are very rare. According to research and data from sources like the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the World Health Organization (WHO), the likelihood of a child being harmed by the MMR vaccine is extremely low.
Here are some key points based on the available evidence:
[ol]

Common side effects: Mild reactions like fever, a rash, or temporary joint pain may occur, but these are typically short-lived and are not considered harmful in the long term.

Serious side effects: The risk of more serious side effects like an allergic reaction, seizures from fever, or a temporary drop in platelet count is very low. For example, the risk of having a severe allergic reaction is about 1 in 1 million doses.

Link to autism: Extensive studies have shown no connection between the MMR vaccine and autism. This myth originated from a now-discredited study published in 1998 by Andrew Wakefield, who was later found guilty of ethical violations. Multiple large-scale studies have confirmed that the MMR vaccine does not cause autism.

Risk vs. benefit: The benefits of the MMR vaccine in preventing measles, mumps, and rubella far outweigh the very small risk of side effects. These diseases can cause severe complications, including brain damage, hearing loss, and even death.

[/ol]
In summary, the percentage of kids harmed by the MMR vaccine is incredibly low. The vaccine's benefits in preventing serious diseases far exceed the risks of side effects.

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Like I said, some families, like my own, aren't so lucky. Some are harmed, permanently.

---

but ya'll are so rare, you can be disregarded - Big Pharma

---

Yeah, let's just get rid of all vaccines since one person might be harmed. Who gives a damn about the other millions that could suffer. Your logic is about as brain dead as you are.

---

This is what you would call a straw man argument.

Speaking of being brain dead, nobody has said "let's just get rid of all vaccines." Nobody. So let's dispense with that silly straw man argument.

What I have suggested, Kennedy has suggested, and a lot of doctors have suggested, is let's take a look at our vaccine schedule to make sure it's not overdoing it. Let's make sure that the vaccines are as safe as they can be, fully tested. Let's make sure the exponential increase in vaccines since the mid-80s (and the exponential rise in childhood conditions) is not harming our children. Let's make sure all children are safe from the negative repercussions of vaccines. Let's make sure their bodies can take them.

Had that been done, my oldest child's compromised immune system and genetic mutation would have been found, and he would not have contracted encephalitis and the resulting brain damage. If that had happened, he would not have gotten autism. He and many others like him.

It's not just one child, but thousands that are injured like my son every year. So let's also stop pretending only one child suffered negative repercussions. While my son's was way worse than most, there are numerous documented vaccine injuries. These are undisputed facts.

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This is what I call a straw man argument. Thousands are not injured every year. That is a complete lie. The studies have been done over and over again and the vaccines are safe except in very rare circumstances and the benefits of vaccines far outweigh any potential negatives. Any decent scientist agrees with this too.

What I find interesting is how you completely gloss over the fact what would have happened if your child caught MMR in the wild? You completely disregard how he might have reacted if he actually caught any of those diseases. It's possible his injuries could have been worse, but you discount that completely.

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It's actually called a fact. NIH says 3,152 vaccine injuries from 2003 to 2013 related to the MMR vaccine. That's just a ten year period. So, yes, it's in the thousands, like I said.

If my child had caught measles, he probably would have been perfectly fine - just like the vast majority of children who catch it. What I do know is he likely would not have had permanent brain damage, and would not have to have foregone a normal life. Because of the MMR vaccine, he will never marry, and he will live with my wife and I until we die, at which point his brothers will hopefully take him in.

Between the two, I would have taken my chances with measles any day of the week.

Osodecentx said:

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Mothra said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Mothra said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who has sought to roll back longstanding vaccine policy, testified that the measles vaccine is safe and effective "for most people" and agreed it was safer than getting measles.

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Most people is not all people. That's my point, and his.

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In regard to vaccines, what is all people?

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I am not sure what you mean. I think I expressed my thoughts very succinctly and consistently. Vaccines are not for all children, like my son.

Not sure what else there is to say or why further clarification is required.

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My post wasn't clear, I just clarified it.
Isn't the risk of not taking the measles vaccine greater than not taking it. Nothing is 100%

Measles deaths in the U.S. are rare due to high vaccination rates, but resurged in 20252026 with 3 reported deaths in 2025 and new fatalities in Texas and New Mexico in early 2026.

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Again, it depends on the child. For normal kids, yes. For someone who has my son's compromised immune system and genetic mutation, it was a disaster.

Mothra said:

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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Mothra said:

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Mothra said:

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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Mothra said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/as-measles-takes-toll-on-kids-anti-vaxxers-have-change-of-heart/ar-AA21iL9p

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It was a tipping point for the 40-year-old stay-at-home mom who had grown up in a staunchly anti-vaccine, fundamentalist Christian community. "What are we doing? Why are we doing this?" she remembers thinking. "I wanted to protect my kids."

She took all six of them to get the measles, mumps and rubella shot. Then she posted an emotional TikTok aimed at the anti-vax crowd she used to be a part of: "You can change your mind," she said in the video that's been watched more than 422,000 times.

---

It's good her children weren't injured by the vaccine. She is one of the lucky ones.

Some, such as my family, aren't so lucky.

---

The MMR vaccine (measles, mumps, and rubella) is considered safe for the vast majority of children. Serious side effects are very rare. According to research and data from sources like the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the World Health Organization (WHO), the likelihood of a child being harmed by the MMR vaccine is extremely low.
Here are some key points based on the available evidence:
[ol]

Common side effects: Mild reactions like fever, a rash, or temporary joint pain may occur, but these are typically short-lived and are not considered harmful in the long term.

Serious side effects: The risk of more serious side effects like an allergic reaction, seizures from fever, or a temporary drop in platelet count is very low. For example, the risk of having a severe allergic reaction is about 1 in 1 million doses.

Link to autism: Extensive studies have shown no connection between the MMR vaccine and autism. This myth originated from a now-discredited study published in 1998 by Andrew Wakefield, who was later found guilty of ethical violations. Multiple large-scale studies have confirmed that the MMR vaccine does not cause autism.

Risk vs. benefit: The benefits of the MMR vaccine in preventing measles, mumps, and rubella far outweigh the very small risk of side effects. These diseases can cause severe complications, including brain damage, hearing loss, and even death.

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In summary, the percentage of kids harmed by the MMR vaccine is incredibly low. The vaccine's benefits in preventing serious diseases far exceed the risks of side effects.

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Like I said, some families, like my own, aren't so lucky. Some are harmed, permanently.

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but ya'll are so rare, you can be disregarded - Big Pharma

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Yeah, let's just get rid of all vaccines since one person might be harmed. Who gives a damn about the other millions that could suffer. Your logic is about as brain dead as you are.

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This is what you would call a straw man argument.

Speaking of being brain dead, nobody has said "let's just get rid of all vaccines." Nobody. So let's dispense with that silly straw man argument.

What I have suggested, Kennedy has suggested, and a lot of doctors have suggested, is let's take a look at our vaccine schedule to make sure it's not overdoing it. Let's make sure that the vaccines are as safe as they can be, fully tested. Let's make sure the exponential increase in vaccines since the mid-80s (and the exponential rise in childhood conditions) is not harming our children. Let's make sure all children are safe from the negative repercussions of vaccines. Let's make sure their bodies can take them.

Had that been done, my oldest child's compromised immune system and genetic mutation would have been found, and he would not have contracted encephalitis and the resulting brain damage. If that had happened, he would not have gotten autism. He and many others like him.

It's not just one child, but thousands that are injured like my son every year. So let's also stop pretending only one child suffered negative repercussions. While my son's was way worse than most, there are numerous documented vaccine injuries. These are undisputed facts.

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This is what I call a straw man argument. Thousands are not injured every year. That is a complete lie. The studies have been done over and over again and the vaccines are safe except in very rare circumstances and the benefits of vaccines far outweigh any potential negatives. Any decent scientist agrees with this too.

What I find interesting is how you completely gloss over the fact what would have happened if your child caught MMR in the wild? You completely disregard how he might have reacted if he actually caught any of those diseases. It's possible his injuries could have been worse, but you discount that completely.

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It's actually called a fact. NIH says 3,152 vaccine injuries from 2003 to 2013 related to the MMR vaccine. That's just a ten year period. So, yes, it's in the thousands, like I said.

If my child had caught measles, he probably would have been perfectly fine - just like the vast majority of children who catch it. What I do know is he likely would not have had permanent brain damage, and would not have to have foregone a normal life. Because of the MMR vaccine, he will never marry, and he will live with my wife and I until we die, at which point his brothers will hopefully take him in.

Between the two, I would have taken my chances with measles any day of the week.

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Probably fine? Highly doubtful and not based in fact at all.

And why do you keep lying about the numbers without telling the full story? I get it you want to blame someone but you are leaving out extremely relevant facts to bolster your argument. Stop doing that and give the full story.

Here's what's actually going on:
1) The number itself is (roughly) real
There is a published paper (often hosted on NIH/PMC) analyzing reports to the VAERS system from 20032013. It found:

• 3,175 reports of adverse events after the MMR vaccine in adults

So your quoted figure of "~3,152" is basically in the same ballpark.

2) But these are reports, not confirmed injuries
This is the crucial part the statement gets wrong.
The database used is VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System), which:

• Accepts any report after vaccination, whether or not the vaccine caused it
• Includes unverified, coincidental, or unrelated events
• Is explicitly designed as a signal detection system, not proof of causation

In other words, a VAERS report means:

Quote:

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"Something happened after vaccination,"
not
"The vaccine caused it."

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3) Most reported events were minor
From the same study:

• Only about 5% were classified as serious
• Common reports were things like:
  
  • fever
  • rash
  • pain

Those are expected, generally mild reactions.

4) The study's actual conclusion contradicts the claim
The researchers explicitly concluded:

• They "did not detect any new or unexpected safety concerns"

That's the opposite of implying widespread harm.

Bottom line

• Factually correct: There were a few thousand reports in that time period.
• Misleading claim: Calling them "vaccine injuries" implies confirmed causation, which is not what the data shows.

A more accurate version would be:

Quote:

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"There were ~3,000 reported adverse events in VAERS over 10 years, most of which were non-serious and not proven to be caused by the vaccine."

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Mothra said:

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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Mothra said:

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Mothra said:

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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Mothra said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/as-measles-takes-toll-on-kids-anti-vaxxers-have-change-of-heart/ar-AA21iL9p

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It was a tipping point for the 40-year-old stay-at-home mom who had grown up in a staunchly anti-vaccine, fundamentalist Christian community. "What are we doing? Why are we doing this?" she remembers thinking. "I wanted to protect my kids."

She took all six of them to get the measles, mumps and rubella shot. Then she posted an emotional TikTok aimed at the anti-vax crowd she used to be a part of: "You can change your mind," she said in the video that's been watched more than 422,000 times.

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It's good her children weren't injured by the vaccine. She is one of the lucky ones.

Some, such as my family, aren't so lucky.

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The MMR vaccine (measles, mumps, and rubella) is considered safe for the vast majority of children. Serious side effects are very rare. According to research and data from sources like the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the World Health Organization (WHO), the likelihood of a child being harmed by the MMR vaccine is extremely low.
Here are some key points based on the available evidence:
[ol]

Common side effects: Mild reactions like fever, a rash, or temporary joint pain may occur, but these are typically short-lived and are not considered harmful in the long term.

Serious side effects: The risk of more serious side effects like an allergic reaction, seizures from fever, or a temporary drop in platelet count is very low. For example, the risk of having a severe allergic reaction is about 1 in 1 million doses.

Link to autism: Extensive studies have shown no connection between the MMR vaccine and autism. This myth originated from a now-discredited study published in 1998 by Andrew Wakefield, who was later found guilty of ethical violations. Multiple large-scale studies have confirmed that the MMR vaccine does not cause autism.

Risk vs. benefit: The benefits of the MMR vaccine in preventing measles, mumps, and rubella far outweigh the very small risk of side effects. These diseases can cause severe complications, including brain damage, hearing loss, and even death.

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In summary, the percentage of kids harmed by the MMR vaccine is incredibly low. The vaccine's benefits in preventing serious diseases far exceed the risks of side effects.

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Like I said, some families, like my own, aren't so lucky. Some are harmed, permanently.

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but ya'll are so rare, you can be disregarded - Big Pharma

---

Yeah, let's just get rid of all vaccines since one person might be harmed. Who gives a damn about the other millions that could suffer. Your logic is about as brain dead as you are.

---

This is what you would call a straw man argument.

Speaking of being brain dead, nobody has said "let's just get rid of all vaccines." Nobody. So let's dispense with that silly straw man argument.

What I have suggested, Kennedy has suggested, and a lot of doctors have suggested, is let's take a look at our vaccine schedule to make sure it's not overdoing it. Let's make sure that the vaccines are as safe as they can be, fully tested. Let's make sure the exponential increase in vaccines since the mid-80s (and the exponential rise in childhood conditions) is not harming our children. Let's make sure all children are safe from the negative repercussions of vaccines. Let's make sure their bodies can take them.

Had that been done, my oldest child's compromised immune system and genetic mutation would have been found, and he would not have contracted encephalitis and the resulting brain damage. If that had happened, he would not have gotten autism. He and many others like him.

It's not just one child, but thousands that are injured like my son every year. So let's also stop pretending only one child suffered negative repercussions. While my son's was way worse than most, there are numerous documented vaccine injuries. These are undisputed facts.

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This is what I call a straw man argument. Thousands are not injured every year. That is a complete lie. The studies have been done over and over again and the vaccines are safe except in very rare circumstances and the benefits of vaccines far outweigh any potential negatives. Any decent scientist agrees with this too.

What I find interesting is how you completely gloss over the fact what would have happened if your child caught MMR in the wild? You completely disregard how he might have reacted if he actually caught any of those diseases. It's possible his injuries could have been worse, but you discount that completely.

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It's actually called a fact. NIH says 3,152 vaccine injuries from 2003 to 2013 related to the MMR vaccine. That's just a ten year period. So, yes, it's in the thousands, like I said.

If my child had caught measles, he probably would have been perfectly fine - just like the vast majority of children who catch it. What I do know is he likely would not have had permanent brain damage, and would not have to have foregone a normal life. Because of the MMR vaccine, he will never marry, and he will live with my wife and I until we die, at which point his brothers will hopefully take him in.

Between the two, I would have taken my chances with measles any day of the week.

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Probably fine? Highly doubtful and not based in fact at all.

And why do you keep lying about the numbers without telling the full story? I get it you want to blame someone but you are leaving out extremely relevant facts to bolster your argument. Stop doing that and give the full story.

Here's what's actually going on:
1) The number itself is (roughly) real
There is a published paper (often hosted on NIH/PMC) analyzing reports to the VAERS system from 20032013. It found:

• 3,175 reports of adverse events after the MMR vaccine in adults

So your quoted figure of "~3,152" is basically in the same ballpark.

2) But these are reports, not confirmed injuries
This is the crucial part the statement gets wrong.
The database used is VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System), which:

• Accepts any report after vaccination, whether or not the vaccine caused it
• Includes unverified, coincidental, or unrelated events
• Is explicitly designed as a signal detection system, not proof of causation

In other words, a VAERS report means:

Quote:

---

"Something happened after vaccination,"
not
"The vaccine caused it."

---

3) Most reported events were minor
From the same study:

• Only about 5% were classified as serious
• Common reports were things like:
  
  • fever
  • rash
  • pain

Those are expected, generally mild reactions.

4) The study's actual conclusion contradicts the claim
The researchers explicitly concluded:

• They "did not detect any new or unexpected safety concerns"

That's the opposite of implying widespread harm.

Bottom line

• Factually correct: There were a few thousand reports in that time period.
• Misleading claim: Calling them "vaccine injuries" implies confirmed causation, which is not what the data shows.

A more accurate version would be:

Quote:

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"There were ~3,000 reported adverse events in VAERS over 10 years, most of which were non-serious and not proven to be caused by the vaccine."

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Not interested in your AI garbage.

From WaPo:

The resurgence of measles a terrible disease that can swell the brain and cause permanent disabilities or death is alarming enough on its own. There have been more than 1,700 cases reported in the United States already this year, up from about 70 per year in the early 2000s. Three children died last year.

The rise of measles may also be a harbinger of something even worse, public officials say. "Measles is basically a canary in the coal mine for our entire system," says Dr. Scott Harris, the state health officer in Alabama's Department of Public Health. "When it surges like this, it signals that our vaccination programs are starting to fail, and that other diseases won't be far behind." Already, cases of whooping cough have surged, too. And after two Florida children died of Hib, a bacterial infection, epidemiologists worry that disease is resurgent.

The most maddening aspect of this situation is that it was almost certainly avoidable. It stems in large part from a yearslong scare campaign by vaccine conspiracists including Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who now serves as President Trump's secretary of health and human services. Since taking office, Mr. Kennedy has turned his damaging ideas into federal policy. He has downplayed the seriousness of measles outbreaks; promoted dubious treatments and prevention strategies; replaced an expert panel that shaped federal vaccine recommendations with people who share his views but, for the most part, lack relevant experience or expertise; and made substantial changes to the childhood vaccine schedule without even convening that same group.

Childhood Vaccines...

1962 = 5 vaccines
1983 = 10 vaccines
2013 = 32 vaccines
2019 = 72 vaccines
2025 = up to 96 vaccine doses

Autism Rates

1983 = 1 in 10,000
2013 = 1 in 88
2022 = 1 in 36
2025= 1 in 31
2026 = 1 in 20 boys pic.twitter.com/hChhYG1kTl

— Valerie Anne Smith (@ValerieAnne1970) April 25, 2026

LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Childhood Vaccines...

1962 = 5 vaccines
1983 = 10 vaccines
2013 = 32 vaccines
2019 = 72 vaccines
2025 = up to 96 vaccine doses

Autism Rates

1983 = 1 in 10,000
2013 = 1 in 88
2022 = 1 in 36
2025= 1 in 31
2026 = 1 in 20 boys pic.twitter.com/hChhYG1kTl

— Valerie Anne Smith (@ValerieAnne1970) April 25, 2026

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Yup. And before someone tries to claim the rise is merely attributable to "better diagnosis," that theory has been roundly debunked.

And it's interesting to look at the incidence of autism, ADD, ADHD and allergies since the passage of the 1986 vaccine immunity act, when the number of vaccines we give infants and children skyrocketed. Coincidentally, or not so coincidentally, the incidence of each of these disorders shot through the roof. And pharmaceutical companies became the most lucrative in the world - and the biggest lobbiers of Congress.

But of course Big Pharma will engage in the scare tactics. They'll point to 3 deaths as evidence that our system is in disarray, when the truth is they could care less unless it impacts their bottom lines.

Mothra said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Childhood Vaccines...

1962 = 5 vaccines
1983 = 10 vaccines
2013 = 32 vaccines
2019 = 72 vaccines
2025 = up to 96 vaccine doses

Autism Rates

1983 = 1 in 10,000
2013 = 1 in 88
2022 = 1 in 36
2025= 1 in 31
2026 = 1 in 20 boys pic.twitter.com/hChhYG1kTl

— Valerie Anne Smith (@ValerieAnne1970) April 25, 2026

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Yup. And before someone tries to claim the rise is merely attributable to "better diagnosis," that theory has been roundly debunked.

And it's interesting to look at the incidence of autism, ADD, ADHD and allergies since the passage of the 1986 vaccine immunity act, when the number of vaccines we give infants and children skyrocketed. Coincidentally, or not so coincidentally, the incidence of each of these disorders shot through the roof. And pharmaceutical companies became the most lucrative in the world - and the biggest lobbiers of Congress.

But of course Big Pharma will engage in the scare tactics. They'll point to 3 deaths as evidence that our system is in disarray, when the truth is they could care less unless it impacts their bottom lines.

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The love of money is the root of all evil …

and it goes on to talk about many sorrows.

Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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Mothra said:

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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Mothra said:

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Mothra said:

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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Mothra said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/as-measles-takes-toll-on-kids-anti-vaxxers-have-change-of-heart/ar-AA21iL9p

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It was a tipping point for the 40-year-old stay-at-home mom who had grown up in a staunchly anti-vaccine, fundamentalist Christian community. "What are we doing? Why are we doing this?" she remembers thinking. "I wanted to protect my kids."

She took all six of them to get the measles, mumps and rubella shot. Then she posted an emotional TikTok aimed at the anti-vax crowd she used to be a part of: "You can change your mind," she said in the video that's been watched more than 422,000 times.

---

It's good her children weren't injured by the vaccine. She is one of the lucky ones.

Some, such as my family, aren't so lucky.

---

The MMR vaccine (measles, mumps, and rubella) is considered safe for the vast majority of children. Serious side effects are very rare. According to research and data from sources like the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the World Health Organization (WHO), the likelihood of a child being harmed by the MMR vaccine is extremely low.
Here are some key points based on the available evidence:
[ol]

Common side effects: Mild reactions like fever, a rash, or temporary joint pain may occur, but these are typically short-lived and are not considered harmful in the long term.

Serious side effects: The risk of more serious side effects like an allergic reaction, seizures from fever, or a temporary drop in platelet count is very low. For example, the risk of having a severe allergic reaction is about 1 in 1 million doses.

Link to autism: Extensive studies have shown no connection between the MMR vaccine and autism. This myth originated from a now-discredited study published in 1998 by Andrew Wakefield, who was later found guilty of ethical violations. Multiple large-scale studies have confirmed that the MMR vaccine does not cause autism.

Risk vs. benefit: The benefits of the MMR vaccine in preventing measles, mumps, and rubella far outweigh the very small risk of side effects. These diseases can cause severe complications, including brain damage, hearing loss, and even death.

[/ol]
In summary, the percentage of kids harmed by the MMR vaccine is incredibly low. The vaccine's benefits in preventing serious diseases far exceed the risks of side effects.

---

Like I said, some families, like my own, aren't so lucky. Some are harmed, permanently.

---

but ya'll are so rare, you can be disregarded - Big Pharma

---

Yeah, let's just get rid of all vaccines since one person might be harmed. Who gives a damn about the other millions that could suffer. Your logic is about as brain dead as you are.

---

This is what you would call a straw man argument.

Speaking of being brain dead, nobody has said "let's just get rid of all vaccines." Nobody. So let's dispense with that silly straw man argument.

What I have suggested, Kennedy has suggested, and a lot of doctors have suggested, is let's take a look at our vaccine schedule to make sure it's not overdoing it. Let's make sure that the vaccines are as safe as they can be, fully tested. Let's make sure the exponential increase in vaccines since the mid-80s (and the exponential rise in childhood conditions) is not harming our children. Let's make sure all children are safe from the negative repercussions of vaccines. Let's make sure their bodies can take them.

Had that been done, my oldest child's compromised immune system and genetic mutation would have been found, and he would not have contracted encephalitis and the resulting brain damage. If that had happened, he would not have gotten autism. He and many others like him.

It's not just one child, but thousands that are injured like my son every year. So let's also stop pretending only one child suffered negative repercussions. While my son's was way worse than most, there are numerous documented vaccine injuries. These are undisputed facts.

---

This is what I call a straw man argument. Thousands are not injured every year. That is a complete lie. The studies have been done over and over again and the vaccines are safe except in very rare circumstances and the benefits of vaccines far outweigh any potential negatives. Any decent scientist agrees with this too.

What I find interesting is how you completely gloss over the fact what would have happened if your child caught MMR in the wild? You completely disregard how he might have reacted if he actually caught any of those diseases. It's possible his injuries could have been worse, but you discount that completely.

---

It's actually called a fact. NIH says 3,152 vaccine injuries from 2003 to 2013 related to the MMR vaccine. That's just a ten year period. So, yes, it's in the thousands, like I said.

If my child had caught measles, he probably would have been perfectly fine - just like the vast majority of children who catch it. What I do know is he likely would not have had permanent brain damage, and would not have to have foregone a normal life. Because of the MMR vaccine, he will never marry, and he will live with my wife and I until we die, at which point his brothers will hopefully take him in.

Between the two, I would have taken my chances with measles any day of the week.

---

Probably fine? Highly doubtful and not based in fact at all.

And why do you keep lying about the numbers without telling the full story? I get it you want to blame someone but you are leaving out extremely relevant facts to bolster your argument. Stop doing that and give the full story.

Here's what's actually going on:
1) The number itself is (roughly) real
There is a published paper (often hosted on NIH/PMC) analyzing reports to the VAERS system from 20032013. It found:

• 3,175 reports of adverse events after the MMR vaccine in adults

So your quoted figure of "~3,152" is basically in the same ballpark.

2) But these are reports, not confirmed injuries
This is the crucial part the statement gets wrong.
The database used is VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System), which:

• Accepts any report after vaccination, whether or not the vaccine caused it
• Includes unverified, coincidental, or unrelated events
• Is explicitly designed as a signal detection system, not proof of causation

In other words, a VAERS report means:

Quote:

---

"Something happened after vaccination,"
not
"The vaccine caused it."

---

3) Most reported events were minor
From the same study:

• Only about 5% were classified as serious
• Common reports were things like:
  
  • fever
  • rash
  • pain

Those are expected, generally mild reactions.

4) The study's actual conclusion contradicts the claim
The researchers explicitly concluded:

• They "did not detect any new or unexpected safety concerns"

That's the opposite of implying widespread harm.

Bottom line

• Factually correct: There were a few thousand reports in that time period.
• Misleading claim: Calling them "vaccine injuries" implies confirmed causation, which is not what the data shows.

A more accurate version would be:

Quote:

---

"There were ~3,000 reported adverse events in VAERS over 10 years, most of which were non-serious and not proven to be caused by the vaccine."

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Reported by whom or what organization, of whatever sort?

It is against the user agreement of Sic'em to put a ow user.

I feel confident in saying this is not Tempus

I spent 5 years in undergrad (biology and chemistry, magna cum laude), 5 years in grad school/med school (neuroscience/physiology and medicine, summa cum laude and cum laude, respectively), and almost 3 years in residency.

When I arrived, all they wanted me to to was force COVID…

— Andrew Zywiec, M.D. (@AndrewZywiecMD) April 25, 2026