QUITE A YEAR FOR ISRAEL

-Buy TikTok & censor
-Buy CBS & censor
-Buy CNN & censor
-Buy Influencers
-Charlie Kirk gets killed
-TPUSA becomes more Israel
-Geo-Fence churches
-1000 pastors become Israel Ambassadors
-Replace MTG with Pro-Israel
-Replace Massie with Pro-Israel pic.twitter.com/FIFssTX8AO

— GenXGirl (@GenXGirl1994) May 20, 2026

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You really believe there is nothing in the Epstein files and Trump is clean?

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That's not how I would say it

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Then nothing else you said means anything. You're just annoyed with Massie for harping on it.

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When did you stop beating your wife?

I appreciate how you rebut opportunities for people to conclude that you might be a tad smarter than the right wing dumb ****s that you deride.

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That makes even less sense. Either you believe Trump is clean, or you don't.

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Oh …
So you're THAT stupid?

Thanks, I overestimated you again.

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Sorry if I struck a nerve.

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No, you're just a ****ing idiot. This board is an excellent example of how democracy is the worst form of government ever except for all the others.

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Actually Trump populism is.

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Trump populism is what?

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"An excellent example of how democracy is the worst form of government ever except for all others."

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Ah yes

Indeed

{ sipping Mossad coffee }

{ eating IDF tasty cakes }

- el UF

Adios, Tomas......

D!

Viva Trumpata!!

Go Bears!!!

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You really believe there is nothing in the Epstein files and Trump is clean?

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That's not how I would say it

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Then nothing else you said means anything. You're just annoyed with Massie for harping on it.

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When did you stop beating your wife?

I appreciate how you rebut opportunities for people to conclude that you might be a tad smarter than the right wing dumb ****s that you deride.

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That makes even less sense. Either you believe Trump is clean, or you don't.

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Oh …
So you're THAT stupid?

Thanks, I overestimated you again.

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Sorry if I struck a nerve.

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No, you're just a ****ing idiot. This board is an excellent example of how democracy is the worst form of government ever except for all the others.

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One more time for the record. You really believe there is nothing in the Epstein files and Trump is clean?

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I believe you have an IQ of 97.

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Then make the answer as simple as possible. I'll settle for a yes or a no.

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It's no wonder Massie is hated. Conservatism is kryptonite to RINOs and MAGAs alike.

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Nah, just illegals and significant immigration reform are towards the top of the issues breaking our county.

He's not solid on the that issue.

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If by "not solid" you mean he's not a raging xenophobe who would sacrifice our civil liberties in a fanatical quest for racial purity, you're probably right. But he is restrictive on immigration by any reasonable standard.

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Lol, drama queen much? All the lefty talk points seething out.

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I'm just going by what I see posted here. Some of y'all desperately need a reality check when it comes to this issue.

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And never having your tax return examined … forever

The United States...is hereby FOREVER BARRED and PRECLUDED from prosecuting or pursuing...examinations or similar or related reviews" against Trump "or related or affiliated individuals," including family members or related companies and trusts.

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QUITE A YEAR FOR ISRAEL

-Buy TikTok & censor
-Buy CBS & censor
-Buy CNN & censor
-Buy Influencers
-Charlie Kirk gets killed
-TPUSA becomes more Israel
-Geo-Fence churches
-1000 pastors become Israel Ambassadors
-Replace MTG with Pro-Israel
-Replace Massie with Pro-Israel pic.twitter.com/FIFssTX8AO

— GenXGirl (@GenXGirl1994) May 20, 2026

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Someone who nobody has ever heard of, declined 8 debates, and took $20 million in donations from Israel “won” a primary from an 8 year constituent.

We’re cooked.

— Hawkeye Enjoyer 🐤 (@HawkGuyEnjoyer) May 20, 2026

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Millennials. Oi vey.

What's really weird about it is you kept telling everyone how popular Massie was, and how the groypers are no longer a small minority.

Weird.

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Thomas Massie:

"Just in case I lose, they gave me the number to call to concede but the area code is Tel Aviv.” 😂 pic.twitter.com/5vmfh7ww0M

— GenXGirl (@GenXGirl1994) May 19, 2026

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That in a nutshell is why he lost.

It's all about the Jews for him.

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Do you think the $35 million spent against him also had an impact?

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The point has been missed. If Massie wasn't promoting Jewish conspiracies, it's likely the $35 million wouldn't have been spent.

The real shame of it is I like Massie's fiscal conservatism. Not a fan of his isolationist policies in general, as I don't think isolationism is a viable solution in today's world; however, dissent is often times a good thing, especially in foreign policy matters, and I could've lived with that.

But he's taken a real turn to the left in parroting many of the leftist conspiracies regarding Israel. When hard Democrats and liberals are supporting your candidacy, that is a real problem. And then, of course he promoted the Epstein conspiracy, which ended up being nothing but a big fat nothing burger.

This version of Thomas Massie is much different than the one who was elected. He embodies all of the worst qualities of the conspiracy-minded, low-IQ MTG America First crowd.

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Someone who nobody has ever heard of, declined 8 debates, and took $20 million in donations from Israel “won” a primary from an 8 year constituent.

We’re cooked.

— Hawkeye Enjoyer 🐤 (@HawkGuyEnjoyer) May 20, 2026

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Millennials. Oi vey.

What's really weird about it is you kept telling everyone how popular Massie was, and how the groypers are no longer a small minority.

Weird.

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Massie was overwhelmingly popular among Gen Z and Millennial voters, which is what Groypers are. If there is a bit of optimism to take away from this it's that America's support for Israel will fade out with the boomers

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Someone who nobody has ever heard of, declined 8 debates, and took $20 million in donations from Israel “won” a primary from an 8 year constituent.

We’re cooked.

— Hawkeye Enjoyer 🐤 (@HawkGuyEnjoyer) May 20, 2026

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Millennials. Oi vey.

What's really weird about it is you kept telling everyone how popular Massie was, and how the groypers are no longer a small minority.

Weird.

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Massie was overwhelmingly popular among Gen Z and Millennial voters, which is what Groypers are. If there is a bit of optimism to take away from this it's that America's support for Israel will fade out with the boomers

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But I was told that that support is already here. I guess just not enough to get elected. The candidate he ran against, wasn't very strong.

I guess we can wishfully think that America will turn it back on Gods chosen. Perhaps one day you will be right. Most Gen Z and Millennial voters aren't Christian. I just hope we still exist at that point

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Thomas Massie in his concession speech: "While gas is almost $5 a gallon and diesel is almost $6, they're talking about this big ballroom...It looks like the Roman Empire. I see a few analogies there..."

— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) May 20, 2026

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I get he's upset, but this is just typical from a guy who fought just to be known as a fighter, he needs to ask his voters why they voted him out. They clearly had their reasons, and I don't believe it was just because there was another guy with more money.

And the ballroom is a democrat talking point, completely irrelevant to most red voters, in fact most people were likely surprised that we didn't have a ballroom at the white house already. It's obviously not a bad idea.

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It's funny how everything you don't agree with is a "democrat talking point." Doesn't make much sense, but I guess it makes a good talking point!

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Bad logic as usual. TDS has broken your brain. It's quite simple - when I call something a democrat talking point, it's because it is in fact that.

My point was spot on. Nobody cares much about the ballroom being built, it'd be a smallish to non-event if any other president was doing it.

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It's no wonder Massie is hated. Conservatism is kryptonite to RINOs and MAGAs alike.

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Nah, just illegals and significant immigration reform are towards the top of the issues breaking our county.

He's not solid on the that issue.

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If by "not solid" you mean he's not a raging xenophobe who would sacrifice our civil liberties in a fanatical quest for racial purity, you're probably right. But he is restrictive on immigration by any reasonable standard.

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Lol, drama queen much? All the lefty talk points seething out.

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I'm just going by what I see posted here. Some of y'all desperately need a reality check when it comes to this issue.

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And never having your tax return examined … forever

The United States...is hereby FOREVER BARRED and PRECLUDED from prosecuting or pursuing...examinations or similar or related reviews" against Trump "or related or affiliated individuals," including family members or related companies and trusts.

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Interesting topic, should make a good thread.

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Thomas Massie in his concession speech: "While gas is almost $5 a gallon and diesel is almost $6, they're talking about this big ballroom...It looks like the Roman Empire. I see a few analogies there..."

— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) May 20, 2026

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I get he's upset, but this is just typical from a guy who fought just to be known as a fighter, he needs to ask his voters why they voted him out. They clearly had their reasons, and I don't believe it was just because there was another guy with more money.

And the ballroom is a democrat talking point, completely irrelevant to most red voters, in fact most people were likely surprised that we didn't have a ballroom at the white house already. It's obviously not a bad idea.

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It's funny how everything you don't agree with is a "democrat talking point." Doesn't make much sense, but I guess it makes a good talking point!

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Bad logic as usual. TDS has broken your brain. It's quite simple - when I call something a democrat talking point, it's because it is in fact that.

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It's a lazy ad hominem, and a particularly meaningless one since anything the other side talks about can easily be labeled a "talking point."

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Thomas Massie in his concession speech: "While gas is almost $5 a gallon and diesel is almost $6, they're talking about this big ballroom...It looks like the Roman Empire. I see a few analogies there..."

— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) May 20, 2026

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I get he's upset, but this is just typical from a guy who fought just to be known as a fighter, he needs to ask his voters why they voted him out. They clearly had their reasons, and I don't believe it was just because there was another guy with more money.

And the ballroom is a democrat talking point, completely irrelevant to most red voters, in fact most people were likely surprised that we didn't have a ballroom at the white house already. It's obviously not a bad idea.

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He lost because Boomers would sacrifice their own children for Israel - a country of surreptitous scammers.

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Guarantee he didn't lose because of that, at least not directly. Their money helped but no boomer went to the poll thinking it's a referendum on Israel.

He lost because he voted wrong (according to his voters) too many times. Plus he became the leading clown in the Epstien files, something he was relatively quiet on for a decade before 2025.

I'm not even saying he was wrong to pursue it, but it looked opportunic and put him on the same team as the dems who don't care at all about Epstien but played it up to work against Trump. Massie was effectively killing the Repubs momentum constantly on big issues.

That's my take anyway, I think well just need to just listen to the voters over the coming days to get their take.

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All the boomers that went to the polls only knew what fox news and Trump told them. Trump had a beef with Massie bc of the epstein files and he didnt vote for the BBB. Israeli donors (Adelson and Singer) had a beef with Massie bc he went on Tucker and said he was the only person in congress that didnt have an AIPAC handler. At the end of the day if you dont take the AIPAC money your career in poliitics wont last long. Maybe that will change one day but for now thats what it is.

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All of the rationalizations from our resident, antisemites are amusing.

Sam Lowry said:

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Thomas Massie in his concession speech: "While gas is almost $5 a gallon and diesel is almost $6, they're talking about this big ballroom...It looks like the Roman Empire. I see a few analogies there..."

— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) May 20, 2026

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I get he's upset, but this is just typical from a guy who fought just to be known as a fighter, he needs to ask his voters why they voted him out. They clearly had their reasons, and I don't believe it was just because there was another guy with more money.

And the ballroom is a democrat talking point, completely irrelevant to most red voters, in fact most people were likely surprised that we didn't have a ballroom at the white house already. It's obviously not a bad idea.

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It's funny how everything you don't agree with is a "democrat talking point." Doesn't make much sense, but I guess it makes a good talking point!

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Bad logic as usual. TDS has broken your brain. It's quite simple - when I call something a democrat talking point, it's because it is in fact that.

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It's a lazy ad hominem, and a particularly meaningless one since anything the other side talks about can easily be labeled a "talking point."

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Nope, generally it's about frequency and volume before it's labeled.

Broke brains can heal, good luck to you sir.

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This is feeling like a very consequential primary race. Trump and AIPAC are pushing all their chips to the middle of the table.

If Massie wins this I think it will be significant.

Trump: “I’m in the Oval Office and we’re in a fight against the worst congressman in the history of our country. His name is Thomas Massie.

I hope you’re gonna put him out of business tomorrow. He is so bad…Get rid of Thomas Massie!” pic.twitter.com/hgCuV6pCax

— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) May 18, 2026

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Trump can go to Hell....Fake Christian...Anyone who knowingly is hiding information (Ep Files) related to all the Pedo's in DC and beyond is one themselves...

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What evidence do you have that evidence of some massive conspiracy is being hidden?

muddybrazos said:

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Mothra said:

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Thomas Massie in his concession speech: "While gas is almost $5 a gallon and diesel is almost $6, they're talking about this big ballroom...It looks like the Roman Empire. I see a few analogies there..."

— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) May 20, 2026

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I get he's upset, but this is just typical from a guy who fought just to be known as a fighter, he needs to ask his voters why they voted him out. They clearly had their reasons, and I don't believe it was just because there was another guy with more money.

And the ballroom is a democrat talking point, completely irrelevant to most red voters, in fact most people were likely surprised that we didn't have a ballroom at the white house already. It's obviously not a bad idea.

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He lost because Boomers would sacrifice their own children for Israel - a country of surreptitous scammers.

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Guarantee he didn't lose because of that, at least not directly. Their money helped but no boomer went to the poll thinking it's a referendum on Israel.

He lost because he voted wrong (according to his voters) too many times. Plus he became the leading clown in the Epstien files, something he was relatively quiet on for a decade before 2025.

I'm not even saying he was wrong to pursue it, but it looked opportunic and put him on the same team as the dems who don't care at all about Epstien but played it up to work against Trump. Massie was effectively killing the Repubs momentum constantly on big issues.

That's my take anyway, I think well just need to just listen to the voters over the coming days to get their take.

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All the boomers that went to the polls only knew what fox news and Trump told them. Trump had a beef with Massie bc of the epstein files and he didnt vote for the BBB. Israeli donors (Adelson and Singer) had a beef with Massie bc he went on Tucker and said he was the only person in congress that didnt have an AIPAC handler. At the end of the day if you dont take the AIPAC money your career in poliitics wont last long. Maybe that will change one day but for now thats what it is.

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All of the rationalizations from our resident, antisemites are amusing.

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AIPAC spent $9 million to take out Rep. Thomas Massie.

Trump megadonors spent another $7 million.

It was the most ever spent on a House primary race—all because he defied Trump on Gaza and Epstein.

NO, billionaire super PACs should not buy our elections. One person, one vote.

— Bernie Sanders (@BernieSanders) May 20, 2026

so Bernie must be antisemitci now

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Bernie loved him some Thomas Massie, as did a lot of other liberals.

That's one of the primary reasons the guy lost.

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Thomas Massie in his concession speech: "While gas is almost $5 a gallon and diesel is almost $6, they're talking about this big ballroom...It looks like the Roman Empire. I see a few analogies there..."

— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) May 20, 2026

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I get he's upset, but this is just typical from a guy who fought just to be known as a fighter, he needs to ask his voters why they voted him out. They clearly had their reasons, and I don't believe it was just because there was another guy with more money.

And the ballroom is a democrat talking point, completely irrelevant to most red voters, in fact most people were likely surprised that we didn't have a ballroom at the white house already. It's obviously not a bad idea.

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It's funny how everything you don't agree with is a "democrat talking point." Doesn't make much sense, but I guess it makes a good talking point!

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Bad logic as usual. TDS has broken your brain. It's quite simple - when I call something a democrat talking point, it's because it is in fact that.

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It's a lazy ad hominem, and a particularly meaningless one since anything the other side talks about can easily be labeled a "talking point."

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Nope, generally it's about frequency and volume before it's labeled.

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I've been the target enough times to know better than that.

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Mothra said:

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Thomas Massie in his concession speech: "While gas is almost $5 a gallon and diesel is almost $6, they're talking about this big ballroom...It looks like the Roman Empire. I see a few analogies there..."

— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) May 20, 2026

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I get he's upset, but this is just typical from a guy who fought just to be known as a fighter, he needs to ask his voters why they voted him out. They clearly had their reasons, and I don't believe it was just because there was another guy with more money.

And the ballroom is a democrat talking point, completely irrelevant to most red voters, in fact most people were likely surprised that we didn't have a ballroom at the white house already. It's obviously not a bad idea.

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He lost because Boomers would sacrifice their own children for Israel - a country of surreptitous scammers.

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Guarantee he didn't lose because of that, at least not directly. Their money helped but no boomer went to the poll thinking it's a referendum on Israel.

He lost because he voted wrong (according to his voters) too many times. Plus he became the leading clown in the Epstien files, something he was relatively quiet on for a decade before 2025.

I'm not even saying he was wrong to pursue it, but it looked opportunic and put him on the same team as the dems who don't care at all about Epstien but played it up to work against Trump. Massie was effectively killing the Repubs momentum constantly on big issues.

That's my take anyway, I think well just need to just listen to the voters over the coming days to get their take.

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All the boomers that went to the polls only knew what fox news and Trump told them. Trump had a beef with Massie bc of the epstein files and he didnt vote for the BBB. Israeli donors (Adelson and Singer) had a beef with Massie bc he went on Tucker and said he was the only person in congress that didnt have an AIPAC handler. At the end of the day if you dont take the AIPAC money your career in poliitics wont last long. Maybe that will change one day but for now thats what it is.

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All of the rationalizations from our resident, antisemites are amusing.

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I'm not an antisemite, and frequently support Israel. But Americans should absolutely be concerned about the level of influence Israel and any foreign nation has. The very fact that we wrongly let congressmen have dual citizenship is because of Israel. Not sure we should allow any PACS that lobby for foreign countries and fund our congressmen. AIPAC and similar should be a concern to anyone not playing make believe about excess outside influences.

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I think it's fair, and healthy, for Americans to be mindful of foreign influence in our politics across the board. Transparency and accountability matter. That said, some of these points get oversimplified. For example, Congress allowing dual citizenship isn't something created "because of Israel." The Constitution doesn't prohibit it, and lawmakers' ties to other countries have existed in many forms for decades. You and I may not agree with that policy, but that's not "because of Israel."

On the question of Israel's influence specifically, it's important to keep that in perspective. The U.S. and Israel relationship has always been strong, but it's shaped by a mix of strategic and cultural factors, not just lobbying. Israel isn't unique in having aligned interests or active advocacy groups; many other countries and causes have significant influence in Washington as well. So while it's reasonable to push for stronger transparency and campaign finance rules, the issue isn't unique to Israel, and I don't see verifiable evidence that any one country has outsized control over U.S. policy.

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Mothra said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Thomas Massie in his concession speech: "While gas is almost $5 a gallon and diesel is almost $6, they're talking about this big ballroom...It looks like the Roman Empire. I see a few analogies there..."

— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) May 20, 2026

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I get he's upset, but this is just typical from a guy who fought just to be known as a fighter, he needs to ask his voters why they voted him out. They clearly had their reasons, and I don't believe it was just because there was another guy with more money.

And the ballroom is a democrat talking point, completely irrelevant to most red voters, in fact most people were likely surprised that we didn't have a ballroom at the white house already. It's obviously not a bad idea.

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He lost because Boomers would sacrifice their own children for Israel - a country of surreptitous scammers.

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Guarantee he didn't lose because of that, at least not directly. Their money helped but no boomer went to the poll thinking it's a referendum on Israel.

He lost because he voted wrong (according to his voters) too many times. Plus he became the leading clown in the Epstien files, something he was relatively quiet on for a decade before 2025.

I'm not even saying he was wrong to pursue it, but it looked opportunic and put him on the same team as the dems who don't care at all about Epstien but played it up to work against Trump. Massie was effectively killing the Repubs momentum constantly on big issues.

That's my take anyway, I think well just need to just listen to the voters over the coming days to get their take.

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All the boomers that went to the polls only knew what fox news and Trump told them. Trump had a beef with Massie bc of the epstein files and he didnt vote for the BBB. Israeli donors (Adelson and Singer) had a beef with Massie bc he went on Tucker and said he was the only person in congress that didnt have an AIPAC handler. At the end of the day if you dont take the AIPAC money your career in poliitics wont last long. Maybe that will change one day but for now thats what it is.

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All of the rationalizations from our resident, antisemites are amusing.

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I'm not an antisemite, and frequently support Israel. But Americans should absolutely be concerned about the level of influence Israel and any foreign nation has. The very fact that we wrongly let congressmen have dual citizenship is because of Israel. Not sure we should allow any PACS that lobby for foreign countries and fund our congressmen. AIPAC and similar should be a concern to anyone not playing make believe about excess outside influences.

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I think it's fair, and healthy, for Americans to be mindful of foreign influence in our politics across the board. Transparency and accountability matter. That said, some of these points get oversimplified. For example, Congress allowing dual citizenship isn't something created "because of Israel." The Constitution doesn't prohibit it, and lawmakers' ties to other countries have existed in many forms for decades. You and I may not agree with that policy, but that's not "because of Israel."

On the question of Israel's influence specifically, it's important to keep that in perspective. The U.S. and Israel relationship has always been strong, but it's shaped by a mix of strategic and cultural factors, not just lobbying. Israel isn't unique in having aligned interests or active advocacy groups; many other countries and causes have significant influence in Washington as well. So while it's reasonable to push for stronger transparency and campaign finance rules, the issue isn't unique to Israel, and I don't see verifiable evidence that any one country has outsized control over U.S. policy.

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Maybe look to the Fed then.

There really isn't any credible evidence that Israel controls the Federal Reserve, either. Again, these are the sorts of claims that tend to come from conspiracy narratives rather than verifiable facts. It's totally fair to debate how the Fed operates or whether it has too much power, but tying it to control by another nation, whether that be Israel or anyone else, doesn't hold up when you look at how the institution is actually structured and governed

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There really isn't any credible evidence that Israel controls the Federal Reserve, either. Again, these are the sorts of claims that tend to come from conspiracy narratives rather than verifiable facts. It's totally fair to debate how the Fed operates or whether it has too much power, but tying it to control by another nation, whether that be Israel or anyone else, doesn't hold up when you look at how the institution is actually structured and governed

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Oof, I actually agree with you. The Fed is an independent institution and a force for good, but maybe I'm bias

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Thomas Massie in his concession speech: "While gas is almost $5 a gallon and diesel is almost $6, they're talking about this big ballroom...It looks like the Roman Empire. I see a few analogies there..."

— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) May 20, 2026

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I get he's upset, but this is just typical from a guy who fought just to be known as a fighter, he needs to ask his voters why they voted him out. They clearly had their reasons, and I don't believe it was just because there was another guy with more money.

And the ballroom is a democrat talking point, completely irrelevant to most red voters, in fact most people were likely surprised that we didn't have a ballroom at the white house already. It's obviously not a bad idea.

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He lost because Boomers would sacrifice their own children for Israel - a country of surreptitous scammers.

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Guarantee he didn't lose because of that, at least not directly. Their money helped but no boomer went to the poll thinking it's a referendum on Israel.

He lost because he voted wrong (according to his voters) too many times. Plus he became the leading clown in the Epstien files, something he was relatively quiet on for a decade before 2025.

I'm not even saying he was wrong to pursue it, but it looked opportunic and put him on the same team as the dems who don't care at all about Epstien but played it up to work against Trump. Massie was effectively killing the Repubs momentum constantly on big issues.

That's my take anyway, I think well just need to just listen to the voters over the coming days to get their take.

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All the boomers that went to the polls only knew what fox news and Trump told them. Trump had a beef with Massie bc of the epstein files and he didnt vote for the BBB. Israeli donors (Adelson and Singer) had a beef with Massie bc he went on Tucker and said he was the only person in congress that didnt have an AIPAC handler. At the end of the day if you dont take the AIPAC money your career in poliitics wont last long. Maybe that will change one day but for now thats what it is.

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All of the rationalizations from our resident, antisemites are amusing.

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I'm not an antisemite, and frequently support Israel. But Americans should absolutely be concerned about the level of influence Israel and any foreign nation has. The very fact that we wrongly let congressmen have dual citizenship is because of Israel. Not sure we should allow any PACS that lobby for foreign countries and fund our congressmen. AIPAC and similar should be a concern to anyone not playing make believe about excess outside influences.

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I think it's fair, and healthy, for Americans to be mindful of foreign influence in our politics across the board. Transparency and accountability matter. That said, some of these points get oversimplified. For example, Congress allowing dual citizenship isn't something created "because of Israel." The Constitution doesn't prohibit it, and lawmakers' ties to other countries have existed in many forms for decades. You and I may not agree with that policy, but that's not "because of Israel."

On the question of Israel's influence specifically, it's important to keep that in perspective. The U.S. and Israel relationship has always been strong, but it's shaped by a mix of strategic and cultural factors, not just lobbying. Israel isn't unique in having aligned interests or active advocacy groups; many other countries and causes have significant influence in Washington as well. So while it's reasonable to push for stronger transparency and campaign finance rules, the issue isn't unique to Israel, and I don't see verifiable evidence that any one country has outsized control over U.S. policy.

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Dual citizenship in congress and similar is a complete farce. Should have been addressed long ago. But ending dual citizenship service in congress and dual citizenship disclosure acts will never gain ground because of the influence AIPAC holds. That should bother every American.

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I don't disagree with your first sentence. I was responding to your suggestion that the reason for such policy is "because of Israel."

As also pointed out, I also think some of you significantly overstate the amount of control Israel has over our country.