BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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There really isn't any credible evidence that Israel controls the Federal Reserve, either. Again, these are the sorts of claims that tend to come from conspiracy narratives rather than verifiable facts. It's totally fair to debate how the Fed operates or whether it has too much power, but tying it to control by another nation, whether that be Israel or anyone else, doesn't hold up when you look at how the institution is actually structured and governed

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Oof, I actually agree with you. The Fed is an independent institution and a force for good, but maybe I'm bias

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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There really isn't any credible evidence that Israel controls the Federal Reserve, either. Again, these are the sorts of claims that tend to come from conspiracy narratives rather than verifiable facts. It's totally fair to debate how the Fed operates or whether it has too much power, but tying it to control by another nation, whether that be Israel or anyone else, doesn't hold up when you look at how the institution is actually structured and governed

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Oof, I actually agree with you. The Fed is an independent institution and a force for good, but maybe I'm bias

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Careful, now, agreeing with the old GenXer.

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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There really isn't any credible evidence that Israel controls the Federal Reserve, either. Again, these are the sorts of claims that tend to come from conspiracy narratives rather than verifiable facts. It's totally fair to debate how the Fed operates or whether it has too much power, but tying it to control by another nation, whether that be Israel or anyone else, doesn't hold up when you look at how the institution is actually structured and governed

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Oof, I actually agree with you. The Fed is an independent institution and a force for good, but maybe I'm bias

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Careful, now, agreeing with the old GenXer.

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Independent from taxpayer and Congress, pretty much yes.
Banking run and aligned, for sure.
Never run by anyone outside of one small percentage heritage, yep.

Force for good? Harder to say. It is the primary driver of inflation and provides a means for the government to continually overspend with zero accountability and passing the debt to our kids.

Some of you all need to study the Fed. It primarily is looking out for the financier class.

I am not anti Fed, but force for good is hardly a given.
But It has been a force for the West to influence other countries policies... sometimes on the backs of the US taxpayers.

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Mothra said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Mothra said:

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muddybrazos said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Thomas Massie in his concession speech: "While gas is almost $5 a gallon and diesel is almost $6, they're talking about this big ballroom...It looks like the Roman Empire. I see a few analogies there..."

— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) May 20, 2026

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I get he's upset, but this is just typical from a guy who fought just to be known as a fighter, he needs to ask his voters why they voted him out. They clearly had their reasons, and I don't believe it was just because there was another guy with more money.

And the ballroom is a democrat talking point, completely irrelevant to most red voters, in fact most people were likely surprised that we didn't have a ballroom at the white house already. It's obviously not a bad idea.

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He lost because Boomers would sacrifice their own children for Israel - a country of surreptitous scammers.

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Guarantee he didn't lose because of that, at least not directly. Their money helped but no boomer went to the poll thinking it's a referendum on Israel.

He lost because he voted wrong (according to his voters) too many times. Plus he became the leading clown in the Epstien files, something he was relatively quiet on for a decade before 2025.

I'm not even saying he was wrong to pursue it, but it looked opportunic and put him on the same team as the dems who don't care at all about Epstien but played it up to work against Trump. Massie was effectively killing the Repubs momentum constantly on big issues.

That's my take anyway, I think well just need to just listen to the voters over the coming days to get their take.

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All the boomers that went to the polls only knew what fox news and Trump told them. Trump had a beef with Massie bc of the epstein files and he didnt vote for the BBB. Israeli donors (Adelson and Singer) had a beef with Massie bc he went on Tucker and said he was the only person in congress that didnt have an AIPAC handler. At the end of the day if you dont take the AIPAC money your career in poliitics wont last long. Maybe that will change one day but for now thats what it is.

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All of the rationalizations from our resident, antisemites are amusing.

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I'm not an antisemite, and frequently support Israel. But Americans should absolutely be concerned about the level of influence Israel and any foreign nation has. The very fact that we wrongly let congressmen have dual citizenship is because of Israel. Not sure we should allow any PACS that lobby for foreign countries and fund our congressmen. AIPAC and similar should be a concern to anyone not playing make believe about excess outside influences.

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I think it's fair, and healthy, for Americans to be mindful of foreign influence in our politics across the board. Transparency and accountability matter. That said, some of these points get oversimplified. For example, Congress allowing dual citizenship isn't something created "because of Israel." The Constitution doesn't prohibit it, and lawmakers' ties to other countries have existed in many forms for decades. You and I may not agree with that policy, but that's not "because of Israel."

On the question of Israel's influence specifically, it's important to keep that in perspective. The U.S. and Israel relationship has always been strong, but it's shaped by a mix of strategic and cultural factors, not just lobbying. Israel isn't unique in having aligned interests or active advocacy groups; many other countries and causes have significant influence in Washington as well. So while it's reasonable to push for stronger transparency and campaign finance rules, the issue isn't unique to Israel, and I don't see verifiable evidence that any one country has outsized control over U.S. policy.

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Mothra said:

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muddybrazos said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Thomas Massie in his concession speech: "While gas is almost $5 a gallon and diesel is almost $6, they're talking about this big ballroom...It looks like the Roman Empire. I see a few analogies there..."

— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) May 20, 2026

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I get he's upset, but this is just typical from a guy who fought just to be known as a fighter, he needs to ask his voters why they voted him out. They clearly had their reasons, and I don't believe it was just because there was another guy with more money.

And the ballroom is a democrat talking point, completely irrelevant to most red voters, in fact most people were likely surprised that we didn't have a ballroom at the white house already. It's obviously not a bad idea.

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He lost because Boomers would sacrifice their own children for Israel - a country of surreptitous scammers.

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Guarantee he didn't lose because of that, at least not directly. Their money helped but no boomer went to the poll thinking it's a referendum on Israel.

He lost because he voted wrong (according to his voters) too many times. Plus he became the leading clown in the Epstien files, something he was relatively quiet on for a decade before 2025.

I'm not even saying he was wrong to pursue it, but it looked opportunic and put him on the same team as the dems who don't care at all about Epstien but played it up to work against Trump. Massie was effectively killing the Repubs momentum constantly on big issues.

That's my take anyway, I think well just need to just listen to the voters over the coming days to get their take.

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All the boomers that went to the polls only knew what fox news and Trump told them. Trump had a beef with Massie bc of the epstein files and he didnt vote for the BBB. Israeli donors (Adelson and Singer) had a beef with Massie bc he went on Tucker and said he was the only person in congress that didnt have an AIPAC handler. At the end of the day if you dont take the AIPAC money your career in poliitics wont last long. Maybe that will change one day but for now thats what it is.

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All of the rationalizations from our resident, antisemites are amusing.

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I'm not an antisemite, and frequently support Israel. But Americans should absolutely be concerned about the level of influence Israel and any foreign nation has. The very fact that we wrongly let congressmen have dual citizenship is because of Israel. Not sure we should allow any PACS that lobby for foreign countries and fund our congressmen. AIPAC and similar should be a concern to anyone not playing make believe about excess outside influences.

---

I think it's fair, and healthy, for Americans to be mindful of foreign influence in our politics across the board. Transparency and accountability matter. That said, some of these points get oversimplified. For example, Congress allowing dual citizenship isn't something created "because of Israel." The Constitution doesn't prohibit it, and lawmakers' ties to other countries have existed in many forms for decades. You and I may not agree with that policy, but that's not "because of Israel."

On the question of Israel's influence specifically, it's important to keep that in perspective. The U.S. and Israel relationship has always been strong, but it's shaped by a mix of strategic and cultural factors, not just lobbying. Israel isn't unique in having aligned interests or active advocacy groups; many other countries and causes have significant influence in Washington as well. So while it's reasonable to push for stronger transparency and campaign finance rules, the issue isn't unique to Israel, and I don't see verifiable evidence that any one country has outsized control over U.S. policy.

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Look at foreign aid.

All the money we give to Egypt and Jordan is also just bribes on behalf of Israel at the expense of the American tax payer.

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Mothra said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Mothra said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Mothra said:

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muddybrazos said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Thomas Massie in his concession speech: "While gas is almost $5 a gallon and diesel is almost $6, they're talking about this big ballroom...It looks like the Roman Empire. I see a few analogies there..."

— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) May 20, 2026

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I get he's upset, but this is just typical from a guy who fought just to be known as a fighter, he needs to ask his voters why they voted him out. They clearly had their reasons, and I don't believe it was just because there was another guy with more money.

And the ballroom is a democrat talking point, completely irrelevant to most red voters, in fact most people were likely surprised that we didn't have a ballroom at the white house already. It's obviously not a bad idea.

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He lost because Boomers would sacrifice their own children for Israel - a country of surreptitous scammers.

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Guarantee he didn't lose because of that, at least not directly. Their money helped but no boomer went to the poll thinking it's a referendum on Israel.

He lost because he voted wrong (according to his voters) too many times. Plus he became the leading clown in the Epstien files, something he was relatively quiet on for a decade before 2025.

I'm not even saying he was wrong to pursue it, but it looked opportunic and put him on the same team as the dems who don't care at all about Epstien but played it up to work against Trump. Massie was effectively killing the Repubs momentum constantly on big issues.

That's my take anyway, I think well just need to just listen to the voters over the coming days to get their take.

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All the boomers that went to the polls only knew what fox news and Trump told them. Trump had a beef with Massie bc of the epstein files and he didnt vote for the BBB. Israeli donors (Adelson and Singer) had a beef with Massie bc he went on Tucker and said he was the only person in congress that didnt have an AIPAC handler. At the end of the day if you dont take the AIPAC money your career in poliitics wont last long. Maybe that will change one day but for now thats what it is.

---

All of the rationalizations from our resident, antisemites are amusing.

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I'm not an antisemite, and frequently support Israel. But Americans should absolutely be concerned about the level of influence Israel and any foreign nation has. The very fact that we wrongly let congressmen have dual citizenship is because of Israel. Not sure we should allow any PACS that lobby for foreign countries and fund our congressmen. AIPAC and similar should be a concern to anyone not playing make believe about excess outside influences.

---

I think it's fair, and healthy, for Americans to be mindful of foreign influence in our politics across the board. Transparency and accountability matter. That said, some of these points get oversimplified. For example, Congress allowing dual citizenship isn't something created "because of Israel." The Constitution doesn't prohibit it, and lawmakers' ties to other countries have existed in many forms for decades. You and I may not agree with that policy, but that's not "because of Israel."

On the question of Israel's influence specifically, it's important to keep that in perspective. The U.S. and Israel relationship has always been strong, but it's shaped by a mix of strategic and cultural factors, not just lobbying. Israel isn't unique in having aligned interests or active advocacy groups; many other countries and causes have significant influence in Washington as well. So while it's reasonable to push for stronger transparency and campaign finance rules, the issue isn't unique to Israel, and I don't see verifiable evidence that any one country has outsized control over U.S. policy.

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Dual citizenship in congress and similar is a complete farce. Should have been addressed long ago. But ending dual citizenship service in congress and dual citizenship disclosure acts will never gain ground because of the influence AIPAC holds. That should bother every American.

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I don't disagree with your first sentence. I was responding to your suggestion that the reason for such policy is "because of Israel."

As also pointed out, I also think some of you significantly overstate the amount of control Israel has over our country.

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🚨 PRESIDENT TRUMP "I'm right now at 99% in Israel."

"I could run for prime minister! So maybe after I do this, I'll go to Israel, run for prime minister.

I had poll this morning. I'm at 99%!" pic.twitter.com/WIxNeDm1Eh

— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) May 20, 2026

The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Mothra said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Mothra said:

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muddybrazos said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Thomas Massie in his concession speech: "While gas is almost $5 a gallon and diesel is almost $6, they're talking about this big ballroom...It looks like the Roman Empire. I see a few analogies there..."

— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) May 20, 2026

---

I get he's upset, but this is just typical from a guy who fought just to be known as a fighter, he needs to ask his voters why they voted him out. They clearly had their reasons, and I don't believe it was just because there was another guy with more money.

And the ballroom is a democrat talking point, completely irrelevant to most red voters, in fact most people were likely surprised that we didn't have a ballroom at the white house already. It's obviously not a bad idea.

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He lost because Boomers would sacrifice their own children for Israel - a country of surreptitous scammers.

---

Guarantee he didn't lose because of that, at least not directly. Their money helped but no boomer went to the poll thinking it's a referendum on Israel.

He lost because he voted wrong (according to his voters) too many times. Plus he became the leading clown in the Epstien files, something he was relatively quiet on for a decade before 2025.

I'm not even saying he was wrong to pursue it, but it looked opportunic and put him on the same team as the dems who don't care at all about Epstien but played it up to work against Trump. Massie was effectively killing the Repubs momentum constantly on big issues.

That's my take anyway, I think well just need to just listen to the voters over the coming days to get their take.

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All the boomers that went to the polls only knew what fox news and Trump told them. Trump had a beef with Massie bc of the epstein files and he didnt vote for the BBB. Israeli donors (Adelson and Singer) had a beef with Massie bc he went on Tucker and said he was the only person in congress that didnt have an AIPAC handler. At the end of the day if you dont take the AIPAC money your career in poliitics wont last long. Maybe that will change one day but for now thats what it is.

---

All of the rationalizations from our resident, antisemites are amusing.

---

I'm not an antisemite, and frequently support Israel. But Americans should absolutely be concerned about the level of influence Israel and any foreign nation has. The very fact that we wrongly let congressmen have dual citizenship is because of Israel. Not sure we should allow any PACS that lobby for foreign countries and fund our congressmen. AIPAC and similar should be a concern to anyone not playing make believe about excess outside influences.

---

I think it's fair, and healthy, for Americans to be mindful of foreign influence in our politics across the board. Transparency and accountability matter. That said, some of these points get oversimplified. For example, Congress allowing dual citizenship isn't something created "because of Israel." The Constitution doesn't prohibit it, and lawmakers' ties to other countries have existed in many forms for decades. You and I may not agree with that policy, but that's not "because of Israel."

On the question of Israel's influence specifically, it's important to keep that in perspective. The U.S. and Israel relationship has always been strong, but it's shaped by a mix of strategic and cultural factors, not just lobbying. Israel isn't unique in having aligned interests or active advocacy groups; many other countries and causes have significant influence in Washington as well. So while it's reasonable to push for stronger transparency and campaign finance rules, the issue isn't unique to Israel, and I don't see verifiable evidence that any one country has outsized control over U.S. policy.

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Dual citizenship in congress and similar is a complete farce. Should have been addressed long ago. But ending dual citizenship service in congress and dual citizenship disclosure acts will never gain ground because of the influence AIPAC holds. That should bother every American.

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I don't disagree with your first sentence. I was responding to your suggestion that the reason for such policy is "because of Israel."

As also pointed out, I also think some of you significantly overstate the amount of control Israel has over our country.

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🚨 PRESIDENT TRUMP "I'm right now at 99% in Israel."

"I could run for prime minister! So maybe after I do this, I'll go to Israel, run for prime minister.

I had poll this morning. I'm at 99%!" pic.twitter.com/WIxNeDm1Eh

— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) May 20, 2026

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Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Mothra said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Mothra said:

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muddybrazos said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Thomas Massie in his concession speech: "While gas is almost $5 a gallon and diesel is almost $6, they're talking about this big ballroom...It looks like the Roman Empire. I see a few analogies there..."

— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) May 20, 2026

---

I get he's upset, but this is just typical from a guy who fought just to be known as a fighter, he needs to ask his voters why they voted him out. They clearly had their reasons, and I don't believe it was just because there was another guy with more money.

And the ballroom is a democrat talking point, completely irrelevant to most red voters, in fact most people were likely surprised that we didn't have a ballroom at the white house already. It's obviously not a bad idea.

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He lost because Boomers would sacrifice their own children for Israel - a country of surreptitous scammers.

---

Guarantee he didn't lose because of that, at least not directly. Their money helped but no boomer went to the poll thinking it's a referendum on Israel.

He lost because he voted wrong (according to his voters) too many times. Plus he became the leading clown in the Epstien files, something he was relatively quiet on for a decade before 2025.

I'm not even saying he was wrong to pursue it, but it looked opportunic and put him on the same team as the dems who don't care at all about Epstien but played it up to work against Trump. Massie was effectively killing the Repubs momentum constantly on big issues.

That's my take anyway, I think well just need to just listen to the voters over the coming days to get their take.

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All the boomers that went to the polls only knew what fox news and Trump told them. Trump had a beef with Massie bc of the epstein files and he didnt vote for the BBB. Israeli donors (Adelson and Singer) had a beef with Massie bc he went on Tucker and said he was the only person in congress that didnt have an AIPAC handler. At the end of the day if you dont take the AIPAC money your career in poliitics wont last long. Maybe that will change one day but for now thats what it is.

---

All of the rationalizations from our resident, antisemites are amusing.

---

I'm not an antisemite, and frequently support Israel. But Americans should absolutely be concerned about the level of influence Israel and any foreign nation has. The very fact that we wrongly let congressmen have dual citizenship is because of Israel. Not sure we should allow any PACS that lobby for foreign countries and fund our congressmen. AIPAC and similar should be a concern to anyone not playing make believe about excess outside influences.

---

I think it's fair, and healthy, for Americans to be mindful of foreign influence in our politics across the board. Transparency and accountability matter. That said, some of these points get oversimplified. For example, Congress allowing dual citizenship isn't something created "because of Israel." The Constitution doesn't prohibit it, and lawmakers' ties to other countries have existed in many forms for decades. You and I may not agree with that policy, but that's not "because of Israel."

On the question of Israel's influence specifically, it's important to keep that in perspective. The U.S. and Israel relationship has always been strong, but it's shaped by a mix of strategic and cultural factors, not just lobbying. Israel isn't unique in having aligned interests or active advocacy groups; many other countries and causes have significant influence in Washington as well. So while it's reasonable to push for stronger transparency and campaign finance rules, the issue isn't unique to Israel, and I don't see verifiable evidence that any one country has outsized control over U.S. policy.

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Dual citizenship in congress and similar is a complete farce. Should have been addressed long ago. But ending dual citizenship service in congress and dual citizenship disclosure acts will never gain ground because of the influence AIPAC holds. That should bother every American.

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I don't disagree with your first sentence. I was responding to your suggestion that the reason for such policy is "because of Israel."

As also pointed out, I also think some of you significantly overstate the amount of control Israel has over our country.

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🚨 PRESIDENT TRUMP "I'm right now at 99% in Israel."

"I could run for prime minister! So maybe after I do this, I'll go to Israel, run for prime minister.

I had poll this morning. I'm at 99%!" pic.twitter.com/WIxNeDm1Eh

— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) May 20, 2026

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And?

You need to look up the meaning of "non sequitur." You post more of them than any poster on this board.

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Mothra said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Mothra said:

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muddybrazos said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Thomas Massie in his concession speech: "While gas is almost $5 a gallon and diesel is almost $6, they're talking about this big ballroom...It looks like the Roman Empire. I see a few analogies there..."

— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) May 20, 2026

---

I get he's upset, but this is just typical from a guy who fought just to be known as a fighter, he needs to ask his voters why they voted him out. They clearly had their reasons, and I don't believe it was just because there was another guy with more money.

And the ballroom is a democrat talking point, completely irrelevant to most red voters, in fact most people were likely surprised that we didn't have a ballroom at the white house already. It's obviously not a bad idea.

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He lost because Boomers would sacrifice their own children for Israel - a country of surreptitous scammers.

---

Guarantee he didn't lose because of that, at least not directly. Their money helped but no boomer went to the poll thinking it's a referendum on Israel.

He lost because he voted wrong (according to his voters) too many times. Plus he became the leading clown in the Epstien files, something he was relatively quiet on for a decade before 2025.

I'm not even saying he was wrong to pursue it, but it looked opportunic and put him on the same team as the dems who don't care at all about Epstien but played it up to work against Trump. Massie was effectively killing the Repubs momentum constantly on big issues.

That's my take anyway, I think well just need to just listen to the voters over the coming days to get their take.

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All the boomers that went to the polls only knew what fox news and Trump told them. Trump had a beef with Massie bc of the epstein files and he didnt vote for the BBB. Israeli donors (Adelson and Singer) had a beef with Massie bc he went on Tucker and said he was the only person in congress that didnt have an AIPAC handler. At the end of the day if you dont take the AIPAC money your career in poliitics wont last long. Maybe that will change one day but for now thats what it is.

---

All of the rationalizations from our resident, antisemites are amusing.

---

I'm not an antisemite, and frequently support Israel. But Americans should absolutely be concerned about the level of influence Israel and any foreign nation has. The very fact that we wrongly let congressmen have dual citizenship is because of Israel. Not sure we should allow any PACS that lobby for foreign countries and fund our congressmen. AIPAC and similar should be a concern to anyone not playing make believe about excess outside influences.

---

I think it's fair, and healthy, for Americans to be mindful of foreign influence in our politics across the board. Transparency and accountability matter. That said, some of these points get oversimplified. For example, Congress allowing dual citizenship isn't something created "because of Israel." The Constitution doesn't prohibit it, and lawmakers' ties to other countries have existed in many forms for decades. You and I may not agree with that policy, but that's not "because of Israel."

On the question of Israel's influence specifically, it's important to keep that in perspective. The U.S. and Israel relationship has always been strong, but it's shaped by a mix of strategic and cultural factors, not just lobbying. Israel isn't unique in having aligned interests or active advocacy groups; many other countries and causes have significant influence in Washington as well. So while it's reasonable to push for stronger transparency and campaign finance rules, the issue isn't unique to Israel, and I don't see verifiable evidence that any one country has outsized control over U.S. policy.

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Dual citizenship in congress and similar is a complete farce. Should have been addressed long ago. But ending dual citizenship service in congress and dual citizenship disclosure acts will never gain ground because of the influence AIPAC holds. That should bother every American.

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I don't disagree with your first sentence. I was responding to your suggestion that the reason for such policy is "because of Israel."

As also pointed out, I also think some of you significantly overstate the amount of control Israel has over our country.

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🚨 PRESIDENT TRUMP "I'm right now at 99% in Israel."

"I could run for prime minister! So maybe after I do this, I'll go to Israel, run for prime minister.

I had poll this morning. I'm at 99%!" pic.twitter.com/WIxNeDm1Eh

— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) May 20, 2026

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And?

You need to look up the meaning of "non sequitur." You post more of them than any poster on this board.

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A US President bragging about his approval rating in another country would suggest that country has an inordinate amount of influence/control and policy decisions are being made for their best interest rather than our own. This challenges your previous post claiming anyone suspicious of Israeli collusion with American politicians is peddling conspiracies.

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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BluesBear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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This is feeling like a very consequential primary race. Trump and AIPAC are pushing all their chips to the middle of the table.

If Massie wins this I think it will be significant.

Trump: “I’m in the Oval Office and we’re in a fight against the worst congressman in the history of our country. His name is Thomas Massie.

I hope you’re gonna put him out of business tomorrow. He is so bad…Get rid of Thomas Massie!” pic.twitter.com/hgCuV6pCax

— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) May 18, 2026

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Trump can go to Hell....Fake Christian...Anyone who knowingly is hiding information (Ep Files) related to all the Pedo's in DC and beyond is one themselves...

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So that would include both Obama and Biden, correct?

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Duh? You people love playing whataboutism when it comes to your precious DJT

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GrowlTowel said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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BluesBear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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This is feeling like a very consequential primary race. Trump and AIPAC are pushing all their chips to the middle of the table.

If Massie wins this I think it will be significant.

Trump: “I’m in the Oval Office and we’re in a fight against the worst congressman in the history of our country. His name is Thomas Massie.

I hope you’re gonna put him out of business tomorrow. He is so bad…Get rid of Thomas Massie!” pic.twitter.com/hgCuV6pCax

— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) May 18, 2026

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Trump can go to Hell....Fake Christian...Anyone who knowingly is hiding information (Ep Files) related to all the Pedo's in DC and beyond is one themselves...

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So that would include both Obama and Biden, correct?

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Duh? You people love playing whataboutism when it comes to your precious DJT

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So that is a yes to my question?

And I object to the nonresponsive portion of your answer.

Now, do you care to offer an opinion as to why Obama, Biden, and Trump did not release the full Epstein files?

We can assume that Obama or Biden are not soiled by what is in those files because Trump did not release them to tarnish their reputations. Trump loves a grudge and certainly would release them if they were to hurt either Obama or Biden.

We can also assume that Trump is not soiled by the files because neither Biden nor Obama released them. In fact both *******ized and weaponized the DOJ to sink Trump through other avenues. Certainly if the Epstein files were of consequence, they would have been leaked by now.

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This is feeling like a very consequential primary race. Trump and AIPAC are pushing all their chips to the middle of the table.

If Massie wins this I think it will be significant.

Trump: “I’m in the Oval Office and we’re in a fight against the worst congressman in the history of our country. His name is Thomas Massie.

I hope you’re gonna put him out of business tomorrow. He is so bad…Get rid of Thomas Massie!” pic.twitter.com/hgCuV6pCax

— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) May 18, 2026

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Trump can go to Hell....Fake Christian...Anyone who knowingly is hiding information (Ep Files) related to all the Pedo's in DC and beyond is one themselves...

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So that would include both Obama and Biden, correct?

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Duh? You people love playing whataboutism when it comes to your precious DJT

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So that is a yes to my question?

And I object to the nonresponsive portion of your answer.

Now, do you care to offer an opinion as to why Obama, Biden, and Trump did not release the full Epstein files?

We can assume that Obama or Biden are not soiled by what is in those files because Trump did not release them to tarnish their reputations. Trump loves a grudge and certainly would release them if they were to hurt either Obama or Biden.

We can also assume that Trump is not soiled by the files because neither Biden nor Obama released them. In fact both *******ized and weaponized the DOJ to sink Trump through other avenues. Certainly if the Epstein files were of consequence, they would have been leaked by now.

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Simple answer. They all worked for the same group of people and American politics is kayfabe.

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Mothra said:

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Thomas Massie in his concession speech: "While gas is almost $5 a gallon and diesel is almost $6, they're talking about this big ballroom...It looks like the Roman Empire. I see a few analogies there..."

— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) May 20, 2026

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I get he's upset, but this is just typical from a guy who fought just to be known as a fighter, he needs to ask his voters why they voted him out. They clearly had their reasons, and I don't believe it was just because there was another guy with more money.

And the ballroom is a democrat talking point, completely irrelevant to most red voters, in fact most people were likely surprised that we didn't have a ballroom at the white house already. It's obviously not a bad idea.

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He lost because Boomers would sacrifice their own children for Israel - a country of surreptitous scammers.

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Guarantee he didn't lose because of that, at least not directly. Their money helped but no boomer went to the poll thinking it's a referendum on Israel.

He lost because he voted wrong (according to his voters) too many times. Plus he became the leading clown in the Epstien files, something he was relatively quiet on for a decade before 2025.

I'm not even saying he was wrong to pursue it, but it looked opportunic and put him on the same team as the dems who don't care at all about Epstien but played it up to work against Trump. Massie was effectively killing the Repubs momentum constantly on big issues.

That's my take anyway, I think well just need to just listen to the voters over the coming days to get their take.

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All the boomers that went to the polls only knew what fox news and Trump told them. Trump had a beef with Massie bc of the epstein files and he didnt vote for the BBB. Israeli donors (Adelson and Singer) had a beef with Massie bc he went on Tucker and said he was the only person in congress that didnt have an AIPAC handler. At the end of the day if you dont take the AIPAC money your career in poliitics wont last long. Maybe that will change one day but for now thats what it is.

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All of the rationalizations from our resident, antisemites are amusing.

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I'm not an antisemite, and frequently support Israel. But Americans should absolutely be concerned about the level of influence Israel and any foreign nation has. The very fact that we wrongly let congressmen have dual citizenship is because of Israel. Not sure we should allow any PACS that lobby for foreign countries and fund our congressmen. AIPAC and similar should be a concern to anyone not playing make believe about excess outside influences.

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I think it's fair, and healthy, for Americans to be mindful of foreign influence in our politics across the board. Transparency and accountability matter. That said, some of these points get oversimplified. For example, Congress allowing dual citizenship isn't something created "because of Israel." The Constitution doesn't prohibit it, and lawmakers' ties to other countries have existed in many forms for decades. You and I may not agree with that policy, but that's not "because of Israel."

On the question of Israel's influence specifically, it's important to keep that in perspective. The U.S. and Israel relationship has always been strong, but it's shaped by a mix of strategic and cultural factors, not just lobbying. Israel isn't unique in having aligned interests or active advocacy groups; many other countries and causes have significant influence in Washington as well. So while it's reasonable to push for stronger transparency and campaign finance rules, the issue isn't unique to Israel, and I don't see verifiable evidence that any one country has outsized control over U.S. policy.

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Look at foreign aid.

All the money we give to Egypt and Jordan is also just bribes on behalf of Israel at the expense of the American tax payer.

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What do you believe would be the result in the middle east if we totally cut this aid?
I'm asking because no matter which party is in power, we continue to do it; so is there some advantage to us?

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The result would be lower inflation, lower national debt, and a strong USD.

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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There really isn't any credible evidence that Israel controls the Federal Reserve, either. Again, these are the sorts of claims that tend to come from conspiracy narratives rather than verifiable facts. It's totally fair to debate how the Fed operates or whether it has too much power, but tying it to control by another nation, whether that be Israel or anyone else, doesn't hold up when you look at how the institution is actually structured and governed

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Oof, I actually agree with you. The Fed is an independent institution and a force for good, but maybe I'm bias

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Careful, now, agreeing with the old GenXer.

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Independent from taxpayer and Congress, pretty much yes.
Banking run and aligned, for sure.
Never run by anyone outside of one small percentage heritage, yep.

Force for good? Harder to say. It is the primary driver of inflation and provides a means for the government to continually overspend with zero accountability and passing the debt to our kids.

Some of you all need to study the Fed. It primarily is looking out for the financier class.

I am not anti Fed, but force for good is hardly a given.
But It has been a force for the West to influence other countries policies... sometimes on the backs of the US taxpayers.

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I'll keep my reasoning on this short so we don't derail the thread too badly but…

The average American household became far wealthier after the Federal Reserve was established. While it wasn't the only factor, the Fed helped facilitate a more stable financial system that allowed modern industry and global trade to flourish. I feel People also tend to forget just how common financial crises were before the Federal Reserve Act.

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Lol, the boom to bust is a hallmark of Fed intervention. Wealthier? OK Sure, but that's hardly the Fed's doing necessarily. The Fed has diluted families' income, made the US taxpayer the guarantor for foreign loans and grifts, and made it so that it takes two people to afford to live in a house for the average person, that's if they can even afford a house.

The Fed is an inflationary institution. It is designed to do exactly that. The benefits to an inflationary system all flow to the upper class. As for the financial failures you speak of, they are nearly always due to bankers and not having a central bank system that regulates itself.

As I said, I actually don't hate the Fed, but I am not convinced it's made things better. A stable gold backed money supply may have very well been better for the average person. The idea that we have to inflate our money prices is just financier economist propaganda. There is an alternative.

Trusting the Morgan's and the Rothschilds to form the Fed at Jekyll Island, and now practically under Goldman Sach's rule to run our country's finances guarantees that they will always look out for their own class and not us.

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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There really isn't any credible evidence that Israel controls the Federal Reserve, either. Again, these are the sorts of claims that tend to come from conspiracy narratives rather than verifiable facts. It's totally fair to debate how the Fed operates or whether it has too much power, but tying it to control by another nation, whether that be Israel or anyone else, doesn't hold up when you look at how the institution is actually structured and governed

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Oof, I actually agree with you. The Fed is an independent institution and a force for good, but maybe I'm bias

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Careful, now, agreeing with the old GenXer.

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Independent from taxpayer and Congress, pretty much yes.
Banking run and aligned, for sure.
Never run by anyone outside of one small percentage heritage, yep.

Force for good? Harder to say. It is the primary driver of inflation and provides a means for the government to continually overspend with zero accountability and passing the debt to our kids.

Some of you all need to study the Fed. It primarily is looking out for the financier class.

I am not anti Fed, but force for good is hardly a given.
But It has been a force for the West to influence other countries policies... sometimes on the backs of the US taxpayers.

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I'll keep my reasoning on this short so we don't derail the thread too badly but…

The average American household became far wealthier after the Federal Reserve was established. While it wasn't the only factor, the Fed helped facilitate a more stable financial system that allowed modern industry and global trade to flourish. I feel People also tend to forget just how common financial crises were before the Federal Reserve Act.

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Lol, the boom to bust is a hallmark of Fed intervention. Wealthier? OK Sure, but that's hardly the Fed's doing necessarily. The Fed has diluted families' income, made the US taxpayer the guarantor for foreign loans and grifts, and made it so that it takes two people to afford to live in a house for the average person, that's if they can even afford a house.

The Fed is an inflationary institution. It is designed to do exactly that. The benefits to an inflationary system all flow to the upper class. As for the financial failures you speak of, they are nearly always due to bankers and not having a central bank system that regulates itself.

As I said, I actually don't hate the Fed, but I am not convinced it's made things better. A stable gold backed money supply may have very well been better for the average person. The idea that we have to inflate our money prices is just financier economist propaganda. There is an alternative.

Trusting the Morgan's and the Rothschilds to form the Fed at Jekyll Island, and now practically under Goldman Sach's rule to run our country's finances guarantees that they will always look out for their own class and not us.

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Banks failed because they didn't have a lender of last resort. And yup, the Fed is inflationary by design, a moderate inflation rate of 2% is healthy for growth and investments.

The 19th century had less inflation but far worse recessions, frequent bank runs, and a wider wealth gap. Also access to credit was far more limited for ordinary people.

Additionally, It's a fact that gold financial crises are worse under a gold standard as they constrain a governments growth.

Call me a groyper, but calling the Fed a Jewish institution is an example of low-IQ antisemitism.

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Truth via Humor https://t.co/MkVmWwaBZ7

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 19, 2026

BigGameBaylorBear said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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There really isn't any credible evidence that Israel controls the Federal Reserve, either. Again, these are the sorts of claims that tend to come from conspiracy narratives rather than verifiable facts. It's totally fair to debate how the Fed operates or whether it has too much power, but tying it to control by another nation, whether that be Israel or anyone else, doesn't hold up when you look at how the institution is actually structured and governed

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Oof, I actually agree with you. The Fed is an independent institution and a force for good, but maybe I'm bias

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Careful, now, agreeing with the old GenXer.

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Independent from taxpayer and Congress, pretty much yes.
Banking run and aligned, for sure.
Never run by anyone outside of one small percentage heritage, yep.

Force for good? Harder to say. It is the primary driver of inflation and provides a means for the government to continually overspend with zero accountability and passing the debt to our kids.

Some of you all need to study the Fed. It primarily is looking out for the financier class.

I am not anti Fed, but force for good is hardly a given.
But It has been a force for the West to influence other countries policies... sometimes on the backs of the US taxpayers.

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I'll keep my reasoning on this short so we don't derail the thread too badly but…

The average American household became far wealthier after the Federal Reserve was established. While it wasn't the only factor, the Fed helped facilitate a more stable financial system that allowed modern industry and global trade to flourish. I feel People also tend to forget just how common financial crises were before the Federal Reserve Act.

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Lol, the boom to bust is a hallmark of Fed intervention. Wealthier? OK Sure, but that's hardly the Fed's doing necessarily. The Fed has diluted families' income, made the US taxpayer the guarantor for foreign loans and grifts, and made it so that it takes two people to afford to live in a house for the average person, that's if they can even afford a house.

The Fed is an inflationary institution. It is designed to do exactly that. The benefits to an inflationary system all flow to the upper class. As for the financial failures you speak of, they are nearly always due to bankers and not having a central bank system that regulates itself.

As I said, I actually don't hate the Fed, but I am not convinced it's made things better. A stable gold backed money supply may have very well been better for the average person. The idea that we have to inflate our money prices is just financier economist propaganda. There is an alternative.

Trusting the Morgan's and the Rothschilds to form the Fed at Jekyll Island, and now practically under Goldman Sach's rule to run our country's finances guarantees that they will always look out for their own class and not us.

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Banks failed because they didn't have a lender of last resort. And yup, the Fed is inflationary by design, a moderate inflation rate of 2% is healthy for growth and investments.

The 19th century had less inflation but far worse recessions, frequent bank runs, and a wider wealth gap. Also access to credit was far more limited for ordinary people.

Additionally, It's a fact that gold financial crises are worse under a gold standard as they constrain a governments growth.

Call me a groyper, but calling the Fed a Jewish institution is an example of low-IQ antisemitism.

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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There really isn't any credible evidence that Israel controls the Federal Reserve, either. Again, these are the sorts of claims that tend to come from conspiracy narratives rather than verifiable facts. It's totally fair to debate how the Fed operates or whether it has too much power, but tying it to control by another nation, whether that be Israel or anyone else, doesn't hold up when you look at how the institution is actually structured and governed

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Oof, I actually agree with you. The Fed is an independent institution and a force for good, but maybe I'm bias

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Careful, now, agreeing with the old GenXer.

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Independent from taxpayer and Congress, pretty much yes.
Banking run and aligned, for sure.
Never run by anyone outside of one small percentage heritage, yep.

Force for good? Harder to say. It is the primary driver of inflation and provides a means for the government to continually overspend with zero accountability and passing the debt to our kids.

Some of you all need to study the Fed. It primarily is looking out for the financier class.

I am not anti Fed, but force for good is hardly a given.
But It has been a force for the West to influence other countries policies... sometimes on the backs of the US taxpayers.

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I'll keep my reasoning on this short so we don't derail the thread too badly but…

The average American household became far wealthier after the Federal Reserve was established. While it wasn't the only factor, the Fed helped facilitate a more stable financial system that allowed modern industry and global trade to flourish. I feel People also tend to forget just how common financial crises were before the Federal Reserve Act.

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Lol, the boom to bust is a hallmark of Fed intervention. Wealthier? OK Sure, but that's hardly the Fed's doing necessarily. The Fed has diluted families' income, made the US taxpayer the guarantor for foreign loans and grifts, and made it so that it takes two people to afford to live in a house for the average person, that's if they can even afford a house.

The Fed is an inflationary institution. It is designed to do exactly that. The benefits to an inflationary system all flow to the upper class. As for the financial failures you speak of, they are nearly always due to bankers and not having a central bank system that regulates itself.

As I said, I actually don't hate the Fed, but I am not convinced it's made things better. A stable gold backed money supply may have very well been better for the average person. The idea that we have to inflate our money prices is just financier economist propaganda. There is an alternative.

Trusting the Morgan's and the Rothschilds to form the Fed at Jekyll Island, and now practically under Goldman Sach's rule to run our country's finances guarantees that they will always look out for their own class and not us.

---

Banks failed because they didn't have a lender of last resort. And yup, the Fed is inflationary by design, a moderate inflation rate of 2% is healthy for growth and investments.

The 19th century had less inflation but far worse recessions, frequent bank runs, and a wider wealth gap. Also access to credit was far more limited for ordinary people.

Additionally, It's a fact that gold financial crises are worse under a gold standard as they constrain a governments growth.

Call me a groyper, but calling the Fed a Jewish institution is an example of low-IQ antisemitism.

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I didn't call it a Jewish institution. And I am very much in support of Israel the majority of the time, especially when it comes to defending it's homeland. I also think Jews are highly intelligent people. So I'm no anti-semite. The Fed's control is lead by Jews, there has never been a non Jew heading it. Ever.

Pretending the world isn't the way you think it is, doesn't change things. The Fed is heavily influenced by Jews, as is the entire finance/banking industry. It's as if you have never worked near finance at all. It's not a secret. Every Jew in American knows it to be the case, as does everyone working in top finance. A non-Jew cannot be appointed to Fed chair, it has never and will never happen.

You're just a google educated "Fed fan". The truth is the Fed has been very instrumental in the boom and bust cycle. And the Fed is hardly merely a lender of last resort. Maybe take a year and start studying the good and the bad stories that go on by the financiers and the Fed. Then maybe you can actually sound educated.

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muddybrazos said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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There really isn't any credible evidence that Israel controls the Federal Reserve, either. Again, these are the sorts of claims that tend to come from conspiracy narratives rather than verifiable facts. It's totally fair to debate how the Fed operates or whether it has too much power, but tying it to control by another nation, whether that be Israel or anyone else, doesn't hold up when you look at how the institution is actually structured and governed

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Oof, I actually agree with you. The Fed is an independent institution and a force for good, but maybe I'm bias

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Careful, now, agreeing with the old GenXer.

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Independent from taxpayer and Congress, pretty much yes.
Banking run and aligned, for sure.
Never run by anyone outside of one small percentage heritage, yep.

Force for good? Harder to say. It is the primary driver of inflation and provides a means for the government to continually overspend with zero accountability and passing the debt to our kids.

Some of you all need to study the Fed. It primarily is looking out for the financier class.

I am not anti Fed, but force for good is hardly a given.
But It has been a force for the West to influence other countries policies... sometimes on the backs of the US taxpayers.

---

I'll keep my reasoning on this short so we don't derail the thread too badly but…

The average American household became far wealthier after the Federal Reserve was established. While it wasn't the only factor, the Fed helped facilitate a more stable financial system that allowed modern industry and global trade to flourish. I feel People also tend to forget just how common financial crises were before the Federal Reserve Act.

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Lol, the boom to bust is a hallmark of Fed intervention. Wealthier? OK Sure, but that's hardly the Fed's doing necessarily. The Fed has diluted families' income, made the US taxpayer the guarantor for foreign loans and grifts, and made it so that it takes two people to afford to live in a house for the average person, that's if they can even afford a house.

The Fed is an inflationary institution. It is designed to do exactly that. The benefits to an inflationary system all flow to the upper class. As for the financial failures you speak of, they are nearly always due to bankers and not having a central bank system that regulates itself.

As I said, I actually don't hate the Fed, but I am not convinced it's made things better. A stable gold backed money supply may have very well been better for the average person. The idea that we have to inflate our money prices is just financier economist propaganda. There is an alternative.

Trusting the Morgan's and the Rothschilds to form the Fed at Jekyll Island, and now practically under Goldman Sach's rule to run our country's finances guarantees that they will always look out for their own class and not us.

---

Banks failed because they didn't have a lender of last resort. And yup, the Fed is inflationary by design, a moderate inflation rate of 2% is healthy for growth and investments.

The 19th century had less inflation but far worse recessions, frequent bank runs, and a wider wealth gap. Also access to credit was far more limited for ordinary people.

Additionally, It's a fact that gold financial crises are worse under a gold standard as they constrain a governments growth.

Call me a groyper, but calling the Fed a Jewish institution is an example of low-IQ antisemitism.

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I didn't call it a Jewish institution. And I am very much in support of Israel the majority of the time, especially when it comes to defending it's homeland. I also think Jews are highly intelligent people. So I'm no anti-semite. The Fed's control is lead by Jews, there has never been a non Jew heading it. Ever.

Pretending the world isn't the way you think it is, doesn't change things. The Fed is heavily influenced by Jews, as is the entire finance/banking industry. It's as if you have never worked near finance at all. It's not a secret. Every Jew in American knows it to be the case, as does everyone working in top finance. A non-Jew cannot be appointed to Fed chair, it has never and will never happen.

You're just a google educated "Fed fan". The truth is the Fed has been very instrumental in the boom and bust cycle. And the Fed is hardly merely a lender of last resort. Maybe take a year and start studying the good and the bad stories that go on by the financiers and the Fed. Then maybe you can actually sound educated.

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Jerome Powell is catholic

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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There really isn't any credible evidence that Israel controls the Federal Reserve, either. Again, these are the sorts of claims that tend to come from conspiracy narratives rather than verifiable facts. It's totally fair to debate how the Fed operates or whether it has too much power, but tying it to control by another nation, whether that be Israel or anyone else, doesn't hold up when you look at how the institution is actually structured and governed

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Oof, I actually agree with you. The Fed is an independent institution and a force for good, but maybe I'm bias

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Careful, now, agreeing with the old GenXer.

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Independent from taxpayer and Congress, pretty much yes.
Banking run and aligned, for sure.
Never run by anyone outside of one small percentage heritage, yep.

Force for good? Harder to say. It is the primary driver of inflation and provides a means for the government to continually overspend with zero accountability and passing the debt to our kids.

Some of you all need to study the Fed. It primarily is looking out for the financier class.

I am not anti Fed, but force for good is hardly a given.
But It has been a force for the West to influence other countries policies... sometimes on the backs of the US taxpayers.

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I'll keep my reasoning on this short so we don't derail the thread too badly but…

The average American household became far wealthier after the Federal Reserve was established. While it wasn't the only factor, the Fed helped facilitate a more stable financial system that allowed modern industry and global trade to flourish. I feel People also tend to forget just how common financial crises were before the Federal Reserve Act.

---

Lol, the boom to bust is a hallmark of Fed intervention. Wealthier? OK Sure, but that's hardly the Fed's doing necessarily. The Fed has diluted families' income, made the US taxpayer the guarantor for foreign loans and grifts, and made it so that it takes two people to afford to live in a house for the average person, that's if they can even afford a house.

The Fed is an inflationary institution. It is designed to do exactly that. The benefits to an inflationary system all flow to the upper class. As for the financial failures you speak of, they are nearly always due to bankers and not having a central bank system that regulates itself.

As I said, I actually don't hate the Fed, but I am not convinced it's made things better. A stable gold backed money supply may have very well been better for the average person. The idea that we have to inflate our money prices is just financier economist propaganda. There is an alternative.

Trusting the Morgan's and the Rothschilds to form the Fed at Jekyll Island, and now practically under Goldman Sach's rule to run our country's finances guarantees that they will always look out for their own class and not us.

---

Banks failed because they didn't have a lender of last resort. And yup, the Fed is inflationary by design, a moderate inflation rate of 2% is healthy for growth and investments.

The 19th century had less inflation but far worse recessions, frequent bank runs, and a wider wealth gap. Also access to credit was far more limited for ordinary people.

Additionally, It's a fact that gold financial crises are worse under a gold standard as they constrain a governments growth.

Call me a groyper, but calling the Fed a Jewish institution is an example of low-IQ antisemitism.

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I didn't call it a Jewish institution. And I am very much in support of Israel the majority of the time, especially when it comes to defending it's homeland. I also think Jews are highly intelligent people. So I'm no anti-semite. The Fed's control is lead by Jews, there has never been a non Jew heading it. Ever.

Pretending the world isn't the way you think it is, doesn't change things. The Fed is heavily influenced by Jews, as is the entire finance/banking industry. It's as if you have never worked near finance at all. It's not a secret. Every Jew in American knows it to be the case, as does everyone working in top finance. A non-Jew cannot be appointed to Fed chair, it has never and will never happen.

You're just a google educated "Fed fan". The truth is the Fed has been very instrumental in the boom and bust cycle. And the Fed is hardly merely a lender of last resort. Maybe take a year and start studying the good and the bad stories that go on by the financiers and the Fed. Then maybe you can actually sound educated.

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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There really isn't any credible evidence that Israel controls the Federal Reserve, either. Again, these are the sorts of claims that tend to come from conspiracy narratives rather than verifiable facts. It's totally fair to debate how the Fed operates or whether it has too much power, but tying it to control by another nation, whether that be Israel or anyone else, doesn't hold up when you look at how the institution is actually structured and governed

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Oof, I actually agree with you. The Fed is an independent institution and a force for good, but maybe I'm bias

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Careful, now, agreeing with the old GenXer.

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Independent from taxpayer and Congress, pretty much yes.
Banking run and aligned, for sure.
Never run by anyone outside of one small percentage heritage, yep.

Force for good? Harder to say. It is the primary driver of inflation and provides a means for the government to continually overspend with zero accountability and passing the debt to our kids.

Some of you all need to study the Fed. It primarily is looking out for the financier class.

I am not anti Fed, but force for good is hardly a given.
But It has been a force for the West to influence other countries policies... sometimes on the backs of the US taxpayers.

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I'll keep my reasoning on this short so we don't derail the thread too badly but…

The average American household became far wealthier after the Federal Reserve was established. While it wasn't the only factor, the Fed helped facilitate a more stable financial system that allowed modern industry and global trade to flourish. I feel People also tend to forget just how common financial crises were before the Federal Reserve Act.

---

Lol, the boom to bust is a hallmark of Fed intervention. Wealthier? OK Sure, but that's hardly the Fed's doing necessarily. The Fed has diluted families' income, made the US taxpayer the guarantor for foreign loans and grifts, and made it so that it takes two people to afford to live in a house for the average person, that's if they can even afford a house.

The Fed is an inflationary institution. It is designed to do exactly that. The benefits to an inflationary system all flow to the upper class. As for the financial failures you speak of, they are nearly always due to bankers and not having a central bank system that regulates itself.

As I said, I actually don't hate the Fed, but I am not convinced it's made things better. A stable gold backed money supply may have very well been better for the average person. The idea that we have to inflate our money prices is just financier economist propaganda. There is an alternative.

Trusting the Morgan's and the Rothschilds to form the Fed at Jekyll Island, and now practically under Goldman Sach's rule to run our country's finances guarantees that they will always look out for their own class and not us.

---

Banks failed because they didn't have a lender of last resort. And yup, the Fed is inflationary by design, a moderate inflation rate of 2% is healthy for growth and investments.

The 19th century had less inflation but far worse recessions, frequent bank runs, and a wider wealth gap. Also access to credit was far more limited for ordinary people.

Additionally, It's a fact that gold financial crises are worse under a gold standard as they constrain a governments growth.

Call me a groyper, but calling the Fed a Jewish institution is an example of low-IQ antisemitism.

---

I didn't call it a Jewish institution. And I am very much in support of Israel the majority of the time, especially when it comes to defending it's homeland. I also think Jews are highly intelligent people. So I'm no anti-semite. The Fed's control is lead by Jews, there has never been a non Jew heading it. Ever.

Pretending the world isn't the way you think it is, doesn't change things. The Fed is heavily influenced by Jews, as is the entire finance/banking industry. It's as if you have never worked near finance at all. It's not a secret. Every Jew in American knows it to be the case, as does everyone working in top finance. A non-Jew cannot be appointed to Fed chair, it has never and will never happen.

You're just a google educated "Fed fan". The truth is the Fed has been very instrumental in the boom and bust cycle. And the Fed is hardly merely a lender of last resort. Maybe take a year and start studying the good and the bad stories that go on by the financiers and the Fed. Then maybe you can actually sound educated.

---

Lmao, that's your response? You can't refute what I said so you start personal insults? Nope, I am very familiar with the Fed, inside and out as they are my employer. Just because you read "The Creature from Jekyll Island" doesn't mean you are a subject expert. So please quit larping as a Finance bro and get to bed so you can wake up nice and early for your Northwestern Mutual sales job.

Like MuddyBrazos said, Powell is a practicing Catholic. Many "non-Jews" have led it? *** are you even saying? This is what happens when you get your conspiracies from Reddit. Not even Fuentes believes in that stupid *****

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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There really isn't any credible evidence that Israel controls the Federal Reserve, either. Again, these are the sorts of claims that tend to come from conspiracy narratives rather than verifiable facts. It's totally fair to debate how the Fed operates or whether it has too much power, but tying it to control by another nation, whether that be Israel or anyone else, doesn't hold up when you look at how the institution is actually structured and governed

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Oof, I actually agree with you. The Fed is an independent institution and a force for good, but maybe I'm bias

---

Careful, now, agreeing with the old GenXer.

---

Independent from taxpayer and Congress, pretty much yes.
Banking run and aligned, for sure.
Never run by anyone outside of one small percentage heritage, yep.

Force for good? Harder to say. It is the primary driver of inflation and provides a means for the government to continually overspend with zero accountability and passing the debt to our kids.

Some of you all need to study the Fed. It primarily is looking out for the financier class.

I am not anti Fed, but force for good is hardly a given.
But It has been a force for the West to influence other countries policies... sometimes on the backs of the US taxpayers.

---

I'll keep my reasoning on this short so we don't derail the thread too badly but…

The average American household became far wealthier after the Federal Reserve was established. While it wasn't the only factor, the Fed helped facilitate a more stable financial system that allowed modern industry and global trade to flourish. I feel People also tend to forget just how common financial crises were before the Federal Reserve Act.

---

Lol, the boom to bust is a hallmark of Fed intervention. Wealthier? OK Sure, but that's hardly the Fed's doing necessarily. The Fed has diluted families' income, made the US taxpayer the guarantor for foreign loans and grifts, and made it so that it takes two people to afford to live in a house for the average person, that's if they can even afford a house.

The Fed is an inflationary institution. It is designed to do exactly that. The benefits to an inflationary system all flow to the upper class. As for the financial failures you speak of, they are nearly always due to bankers and not having a central bank system that regulates itself.

As I said, I actually don't hate the Fed, but I am not convinced it's made things better. A stable gold backed money supply may have very well been better for the average person. The idea that we have to inflate our money prices is just financier economist propaganda. There is an alternative.

Trusting the Morgan's and the Rothschilds to form the Fed at Jekyll Island, and now practically under Goldman Sach's rule to run our country's finances guarantees that they will always look out for their own class and not us.

---

Banks failed because they didn't have a lender of last resort. And yup, the Fed is inflationary by design, a moderate inflation rate of 2% is healthy for growth and investments.

The 19th century had less inflation but far worse recessions, frequent bank runs, and a wider wealth gap. Also access to credit was far more limited for ordinary people.

Additionally, It's a fact that gold financial crises are worse under a gold standard as they constrain a governments growth.

Call me a groyper, but calling the Fed a Jewish institution is an example of low-IQ antisemitism.

---

I didn't call it a Jewish institution. And I am very much in support of Israel the majority of the time, especially when it comes to defending it's homeland. I also think Jews are highly intelligent people. So I'm no anti-semite. The Fed's control is lead by Jews, there has never been a non Jew heading it. Ever.

Pretending the world isn't the way you think it is, doesn't change things. The Fed is heavily influenced by Jews, as is the entire finance/banking industry. It's as if you have never worked near finance at all. It's not a secret. Every Jew in American knows it to be the case, as does everyone working in top finance. A non-Jew cannot be appointed to Fed chair, it has never and will never happen.

You're just a google educated "Fed fan". The truth is the Fed has been very instrumental in the boom and bust cycle. And the Fed is hardly merely a lender of last resort. Maybe take a year and start studying the good and the bad stories that go on by the financiers and the Fed. Then maybe you can actually sound educated.

---

Lmao, that's your response? You can't refute what I said so you start personal insults? Nope, I am very familiar with the Fed, inside and out as they are my employer. Just because you read "The Creature from Jekyll Island" doesn't mean you are a subject expert. So please quit larping as a Finance bro and get to bed so you can wake up nice and early for your Northwestern Mutual sales job.

Like MuddyBrazos said, Powell is a practicing Catholic. Many "non-Jews" have led it? *** are you even saying? This is what happens when you get your conspiracies from Reddit. Not even Fuentes believes in that stupid *****

---

Sure, name those without Jewish heritage? We're up to 1 - if even that.

Nah, you pretending that Jews don't heavily lead Finance tells me you are making up stories - or have a vested interest in misleading people. I've been around financiers along with hedge funds, and nobody pretends that Jews aren't heavily over-represented at the leadership and controlling levels. Why are you saying otherwise when you know it to be true? Nobody talks about it exactly, but it's known.

As for the creature from Jekyll Island, it may be sensationalized, but has truth that you won't be able to dispute.

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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There really isn't any credible evidence that Israel controls the Federal Reserve, either. Again, these are the sorts of claims that tend to come from conspiracy narratives rather than verifiable facts. It's totally fair to debate how the Fed operates or whether it has too much power, but tying it to control by another nation, whether that be Israel or anyone else, doesn't hold up when you look at how the institution is actually structured and governed

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Oof, I actually agree with you. The Fed is an independent institution and a force for good, but maybe I'm bias

---

Careful, now, agreeing with the old GenXer.

---

Independent from taxpayer and Congress, pretty much yes.
Banking run and aligned, for sure.
Never run by anyone outside of one small percentage heritage, yep.

Force for good? Harder to say. It is the primary driver of inflation and provides a means for the government to continually overspend with zero accountability and passing the debt to our kids.

Some of you all need to study the Fed. It primarily is looking out for the financier class.

I am not anti Fed, but force for good is hardly a given.
But It has been a force for the West to influence other countries policies... sometimes on the backs of the US taxpayers.

---

I'll keep my reasoning on this short so we don't derail the thread too badly but…

The average American household became far wealthier after the Federal Reserve was established. While it wasn't the only factor, the Fed helped facilitate a more stable financial system that allowed modern industry and global trade to flourish. I feel People also tend to forget just how common financial crises were before the Federal Reserve Act.

---

Lol, the boom to bust is a hallmark of Fed intervention. Wealthier? OK Sure, but that's hardly the Fed's doing necessarily. The Fed has diluted families' income, made the US taxpayer the guarantor for foreign loans and grifts, and made it so that it takes two people to afford to live in a house for the average person, that's if they can even afford a house.

The Fed is an inflationary institution. It is designed to do exactly that. The benefits to an inflationary system all flow to the upper class. As for the financial failures you speak of, they are nearly always due to bankers and not having a central bank system that regulates itself.

As I said, I actually don't hate the Fed, but I am not convinced it's made things better. A stable gold backed money supply may have very well been better for the average person. The idea that we have to inflate our money prices is just financier economist propaganda. There is an alternative.

Trusting the Morgan's and the Rothschilds to form the Fed at Jekyll Island, and now practically under Goldman Sach's rule to run our country's finances guarantees that they will always look out for their own class and not us.

---

Banks failed because they didn't have a lender of last resort. And yup, the Fed is inflationary by design, a moderate inflation rate of 2% is healthy for growth and investments.

The 19th century had less inflation but far worse recessions, frequent bank runs, and a wider wealth gap. Also access to credit was far more limited for ordinary people.

Additionally, It's a fact that gold financial crises are worse under a gold standard as they constrain a governments growth.

Call me a groyper, but calling the Fed a Jewish institution is an example of low-IQ antisemitism.

---

I didn't call it a Jewish institution. And I am very much in support of Israel the majority of the time, especially when it comes to defending it's homeland. I also think Jews are highly intelligent people. So I'm no anti-semite. The Fed's control is lead by Jews, there has never been a non Jew heading it. Ever.

Pretending the world isn't the way you think it is, doesn't change things. The Fed is heavily influenced by Jews, as is the entire finance/banking industry. It's as if you have never worked near finance at all. It's not a secret. Every Jew in American knows it to be the case, as does everyone working in top finance. A non-Jew cannot be appointed to Fed chair, it has never and will never happen.

You're just a google educated "Fed fan". The truth is the Fed has been very instrumental in the boom and bust cycle. And the Fed is hardly merely a lender of last resort. Maybe take a year and start studying the good and the bad stories that go on by the financiers and the Fed. Then maybe you can actually sound educated.

---

Lmao, that's your response? You can't refute what I said so you start personal insults? Nope, I am very familiar with the Fed, inside and out as they are my employer. Just because you read "The Creature from Jekyll Island" doesn't mean you are a subject expert. So please quit larping as a Finance bro and get to bed so you can wake up nice and early for your Northwestern Mutual sales job.

Like MuddyBrazos said, Powell is a practicing Catholic. Many "non-Jews" have led it? *** are you even saying? This is what happens when you get your conspiracies from Reddit. Not even Fuentes believes in that stupid *****

---

Sure, name those without Jewish heritage? We're up to 1 - if even that.

Nah, you pretending that Jews don't heavily lead Finance tells me you are making up stories - or have a vested interest in misleading people. I've been around financiers along with hedge funds, and nobody pretends that Jews aren't heavily over-represented at the leadership and controlling levels. Why are you saying otherwise when you know it to be true? Nobody talks about it exactly, but it's known.

As for the creature from Jekyll Island, it may be sensationalized, but has truth that you won't be able to dispute.

---

I started from the beginning and stopped after four:

Charles Hamlin- Irish, most likely Catholic
William PG Harding- Not sure on the heritage but practicing Christian
Daniel Crissinger- German
Roy Young- Irish

Jews are prevalent in banking but that doesn't mean they control everything. I've met many CEOs, Presidents, and CFOs across the country. The majority were Anglo Saxons.

Some big names: Jamie Dimon (JPM) is Greek. Brian Moynihan (BoA) Irish Catholic, Charles Schwab was Roman Catholic, Jane Fraser (Citi) is English and Christian

I will be the first to criticize AIPAC, Israel, and the usual suspects but I wont engage in every conspiracy theory under the sun.

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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There really isn't any credible evidence that Israel controls the Federal Reserve, either. Again, these are the sorts of claims that tend to come from conspiracy narratives rather than verifiable facts. It's totally fair to debate how the Fed operates or whether it has too much power, but tying it to control by another nation, whether that be Israel or anyone else, doesn't hold up when you look at how the institution is actually structured and governed

---

Oof, I actually agree with you. The Fed is an independent institution and a force for good, but maybe I'm bias

---

Careful, now, agreeing with the old GenXer.

---

Independent from taxpayer and Congress, pretty much yes.
Banking run and aligned, for sure.
Never run by anyone outside of one small percentage heritage, yep.

Force for good? Harder to say. It is the primary driver of inflation and provides a means for the government to continually overspend with zero accountability and passing the debt to our kids.

Some of you all need to study the Fed. It primarily is looking out for the financier class.

I am not anti Fed, but force for good is hardly a given.
But It has been a force for the West to influence other countries policies... sometimes on the backs of the US taxpayers.

---

I'll keep my reasoning on this short so we don't derail the thread too badly but…

The average American household became far wealthier after the Federal Reserve was established. While it wasn't the only factor, the Fed helped facilitate a more stable financial system that allowed modern industry and global trade to flourish. I feel People also tend to forget just how common financial crises were before the Federal Reserve Act.

---

Lol, the boom to bust is a hallmark of Fed intervention. Wealthier? OK Sure, but that's hardly the Fed's doing necessarily. The Fed has diluted families' income, made the US taxpayer the guarantor for foreign loans and grifts, and made it so that it takes two people to afford to live in a house for the average person, that's if they can even afford a house.

The Fed is an inflationary institution. It is designed to do exactly that. The benefits to an inflationary system all flow to the upper class. As for the financial failures you speak of, they are nearly always due to bankers and not having a central bank system that regulates itself.

As I said, I actually don't hate the Fed, but I am not convinced it's made things better. A stable gold backed money supply may have very well been better for the average person. The idea that we have to inflate our money prices is just financier economist propaganda. There is an alternative.

Trusting the Morgan's and the Rothschilds to form the Fed at Jekyll Island, and now practically under Goldman Sach's rule to run our country's finances guarantees that they will always look out for their own class and not us.

---

Banks failed because they didn't have a lender of last resort. And yup, the Fed is inflationary by design, a moderate inflation rate of 2% is healthy for growth and investments.

The 19th century had less inflation but far worse recessions, frequent bank runs, and a wider wealth gap. Also access to credit was far more limited for ordinary people.

Additionally, It's a fact that gold financial crises are worse under a gold standard as they constrain a governments growth.

Call me a groyper, but calling the Fed a Jewish institution is an example of low-IQ antisemitism.

---

I didn't call it a Jewish institution. And I am very much in support of Israel the majority of the time, especially when it comes to defending it's homeland. I also think Jews are highly intelligent people. So I'm no anti-semite. The Fed's control is lead by Jews, there has never been a non Jew heading it. Ever.

Pretending the world isn't the way you think it is, doesn't change things. The Fed is heavily influenced by Jews, as is the entire finance/banking industry. It's as if you have never worked near finance at all. It's not a secret. Every Jew in American knows it to be the case, as does everyone working in top finance. A non-Jew cannot be appointed to Fed chair, it has never and will never happen.

You're just a google educated "Fed fan". The truth is the Fed has been very instrumental in the boom and bust cycle. And the Fed is hardly merely a lender of last resort. Maybe take a year and start studying the good and the bad stories that go on by the financiers and the Fed. Then maybe you can actually sound educated.

---

Lmao, that's your response? You can't refute what I said so you start personal insults? Nope, I am very familiar with the Fed, inside and out as they are my employer. Just because you read "The Creature from Jekyll Island" doesn't mean you are a subject expert. So please quit larping as a Finance bro and get to bed so you can wake up nice and early for your Northwestern Mutual sales job.

Like MuddyBrazos said, Powell is a practicing Catholic. Many "non-Jews" have led it? *** are you even saying? This is what happens when you get your conspiracies from Reddit. Not even Fuentes believes in that stupid *****

---

Sure, name those without Jewish heritage? We're up to 1 - if even that.

Nah, you pretending that Jews don't heavily lead Finance tells me you are making up stories - or have a vested interest in misleading people. I've been around financiers along with hedge funds, and nobody pretends that Jews aren't heavily over-represented at the leadership and controlling levels. Why are you saying otherwise when you know it to be true? Nobody talks about it exactly, but it's known.

As for the creature from Jekyll Island, it may be sensationalized, but has truth that you won't be able to dispute.

---

I started from the beginning and stopped after four:

Charles Hamlin- Irish, most likely Catholic
William PG Harding- Not sure on the heritage but practicing Christian
Daniel Crissinger- German
Roy Young- Irish

Jews are prevalent in banking but that doesn't mean they control everything. I've met many CEOs, Presidents, and CFOs across the country. The majority were Anglo Saxons.

Some big names: Jamie Dimon (JPM) is Greek. Brian Moynihan (BoA) Irish Catholic, Charles Schwab was Roman Catholic, Jane Fraser (Citi) is English and Christian

I will be the first to criticize AIPAC, Israel, and the usual suspects but I wont engage in every conspiracy theory under the sun.

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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There really isn't any credible evidence that Israel controls the Federal Reserve, either. Again, these are the sorts of claims that tend to come from conspiracy narratives rather than verifiable facts. It's totally fair to debate how the Fed operates or whether it has too much power, but tying it to control by another nation, whether that be Israel or anyone else, doesn't hold up when you look at how the institution is actually structured and governed

---

Oof, I actually agree with you. The Fed is an independent institution and a force for good, but maybe I'm bias

---

Careful, now, agreeing with the old GenXer.

---

Independent from taxpayer and Congress, pretty much yes.
Banking run and aligned, for sure.
Never run by anyone outside of one small percentage heritage, yep.

Force for good? Harder to say. It is the primary driver of inflation and provides a means for the government to continually overspend with zero accountability and passing the debt to our kids.

Some of you all need to study the Fed. It primarily is looking out for the financier class.

I am not anti Fed, but force for good is hardly a given.
But It has been a force for the West to influence other countries policies... sometimes on the backs of the US taxpayers.

---

I'll keep my reasoning on this short so we don't derail the thread too badly but…

The average American household became far wealthier after the Federal Reserve was established. While it wasn't the only factor, the Fed helped facilitate a more stable financial system that allowed modern industry and global trade to flourish. I feel People also tend to forget just how common financial crises were before the Federal Reserve Act.

---

Lol, the boom to bust is a hallmark of Fed intervention. Wealthier? OK Sure, but that's hardly the Fed's doing necessarily. The Fed has diluted families' income, made the US taxpayer the guarantor for foreign loans and grifts, and made it so that it takes two people to afford to live in a house for the average person, that's if they can even afford a house.

The Fed is an inflationary institution. It is designed to do exactly that. The benefits to an inflationary system all flow to the upper class. As for the financial failures you speak of, they are nearly always due to bankers and not having a central bank system that regulates itself.

As I said, I actually don't hate the Fed, but I am not convinced it's made things better. A stable gold backed money supply may have very well been better for the average person. The idea that we have to inflate our money prices is just financier economist propaganda. There is an alternative.

Trusting the Morgan's and the Rothschilds to form the Fed at Jekyll Island, and now practically under Goldman Sach's rule to run our country's finances guarantees that they will always look out for their own class and not us.

---

Banks failed because they didn't have a lender of last resort. And yup, the Fed is inflationary by design, a moderate inflation rate of 2% is healthy for growth and investments.

The 19th century had less inflation but far worse recessions, frequent bank runs, and a wider wealth gap. Also access to credit was far more limited for ordinary people.

Additionally, It's a fact that gold financial crises are worse under a gold standard as they constrain a governments growth.

Call me a groyper, but calling the Fed a Jewish institution is an example of low-IQ antisemitism.

---

I didn't call it a Jewish institution. And I am very much in support of Israel the majority of the time, especially when it comes to defending it's homeland. I also think Jews are highly intelligent people. So I'm no anti-semite. The Fed's control is lead by Jews, there has never been a non Jew heading it. Ever.

Pretending the world isn't the way you think it is, doesn't change things. The Fed is heavily influenced by Jews, as is the entire finance/banking industry. It's as if you have never worked near finance at all. It's not a secret. Every Jew in American knows it to be the case, as does everyone working in top finance. A non-Jew cannot be appointed to Fed chair, it has never and will never happen.

You're just a google educated "Fed fan". The truth is the Fed has been very instrumental in the boom and bust cycle. And the Fed is hardly merely a lender of last resort. Maybe take a year and start studying the good and the bad stories that go on by the financiers and the Fed. Then maybe you can actually sound educated.

---

Lmao, that's your response? You can't refute what I said so you start personal insults? Nope, I am very familiar with the Fed, inside and out as they are my employer. Just because you read "The Creature from Jekyll Island" doesn't mean you are a subject expert. So please quit larping as a Finance bro and get to bed so you can wake up nice and early for your Northwestern Mutual sales job.

Like MuddyBrazos said, Powell is a practicing Catholic. Many "non-Jews" have led it? *** are you even saying? This is what happens when you get your conspiracies from Reddit. Not even Fuentes believes in that stupid *****

---

Sure, name those without Jewish heritage? We're up to 1 - if even that.

Nah, you pretending that Jews don't heavily lead Finance tells me you are making up stories - or have a vested interest in misleading people. I've been around financiers along with hedge funds, and nobody pretends that Jews aren't heavily over-represented at the leadership and controlling levels. Why are you saying otherwise when you know it to be true? Nobody talks about it exactly, but it's known.

As for the creature from Jekyll Island, it may be sensationalized, but has truth that you won't be able to dispute.

---

I started from the beginning and stopped after four:

Charles Hamlin- Irish, most likely Catholic
William PG Harding- Not sure on the heritage but practicing Christian
Daniel Crissinger- German
Roy Young- Irish

Jews are prevalent in banking but that doesn't mean they control everything. I've met many CEOs, Presidents, and CFOs across the country. The majority were Anglo Saxons.

Some big names: Jamie Dimon (JPM) is Greek. Brian Moynihan (BoA) Irish Catholic, Charles Schwab was Roman Catholic, Jane Fraser (Citi) is English and Christian

I will be the first to criticize AIPAC, Israel, and the usual suspects but I wont engage in every conspiracy theory under the sun.

---

So what we're supposed to believe is that a guy who only had 75 donations from Kentucky, an empty victory party, and nobody at his rallies, managed to double turnout from 2024 plus get all 10k mail in ballots

KY-4 may have been outright fraud

These numbers don't make sense pic.twitter.com/VW2AG25xXY

— 🏴‍☠️ (@calvinfroedge) May 20, 2026

Gallrein nearly put up Putin numbers. pic.twitter.com/SWQq6C1Sh8

— BMore Fella. 🇺🇸 🫎 🏴‍☠️ (@EffIrsay) May 21, 2026

boognish_bear said:

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Thomas Massie has the highest lifetime career score on the Freedom Index...
A 99!
The Freedom Index measures voting records against the Constitution...
And the GOP did everything to get rid of him..

Really think about that..

— Anti NWO 🇺🇸🇮🇹🇺🇸 (@Anti__NWO) May 20, 2026

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The_barBEARian said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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There really isn't any credible evidence that Israel controls the Federal Reserve, either. Again, these are the sorts of claims that tend to come from conspiracy narratives rather than verifiable facts. It's totally fair to debate how the Fed operates or whether it has too much power, but tying it to control by another nation, whether that be Israel or anyone else, doesn't hold up when you look at how the institution is actually structured and governed

---

Oof, I actually agree with you. The Fed is an independent institution and a force for good, but maybe I'm bias

---

Careful, now, agreeing with the old GenXer.

---

Independent from taxpayer and Congress, pretty much yes.
Banking run and aligned, for sure.
Never run by anyone outside of one small percentage heritage, yep.

Force for good? Harder to say. It is the primary driver of inflation and provides a means for the government to continually overspend with zero accountability and passing the debt to our kids.

Some of you all need to study the Fed. It primarily is looking out for the financier class.

I am not anti Fed, but force for good is hardly a given.
But It has been a force for the West to influence other countries policies... sometimes on the backs of the US taxpayers.

---

I'll keep my reasoning on this short so we don't derail the thread too badly but…

The average American household became far wealthier after the Federal Reserve was established. While it wasn't the only factor, the Fed helped facilitate a more stable financial system that allowed modern industry and global trade to flourish. I feel People also tend to forget just how common financial crises were before the Federal Reserve Act.

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Lol, the boom to bust is a hallmark of Fed intervention. Wealthier? OK Sure, but that's hardly the Fed's doing necessarily. The Fed has diluted families' income, made the US taxpayer the guarantor for foreign loans and grifts, and made it so that it takes two people to afford to live in a house for the average person, that's if they can even afford a house.

The Fed is an inflationary institution. It is designed to do exactly that. The benefits to an inflationary system all flow to the upper class. As for the financial failures you speak of, they are nearly always due to bankers and not having a central bank system that regulates itself.

As I said, I actually don't hate the Fed, but I am not convinced it's made things better. A stable gold backed money supply may have very well been better for the average person. The idea that we have to inflate our money prices is just financier economist propaganda. There is an alternative.

Trusting the Morgan's and the Rothschilds to form the Fed at Jekyll Island, and now practically under Goldman Sach's rule to run our country's finances guarantees that they will always look out for their own class and not us.

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Banks failed because they didn't have a lender of last resort. And yup, the Fed is inflationary by design, a moderate inflation rate of 2% is healthy for growth and investments.

The 19th century had less inflation but far worse recessions, frequent bank runs, and a wider wealth gap. Also access to credit was far more limited for ordinary people.

Additionally, It's a fact that gold financial crises are worse under a gold standard as they constrain a governments growth.

Call me a groyper, but calling the Fed a Jewish institution is an example of low-IQ antisemitism.

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I didn't call it a Jewish institution. And I am very much in support of Israel the majority of the time, especially when it comes to defending it's homeland. I also think Jews are highly intelligent people. So I'm no anti-semite. The Fed's control is lead by Jews, there has never been a non Jew heading it. Ever.

Pretending the world isn't the way you think it is, doesn't change things. The Fed is heavily influenced by Jews, as is the entire finance/banking industry. It's as if you have never worked near finance at all. It's not a secret. Every Jew in American knows it to be the case, as does everyone working in top finance. A non-Jew cannot be appointed to Fed chair, it has never and will never happen.

You're just a google educated "Fed fan". The truth is the Fed has been very instrumental in the boom and bust cycle. And the Fed is hardly merely a lender of last resort. Maybe take a year and start studying the good and the bad stories that go on by the financiers and the Fed. Then maybe you can actually sound educated.

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Lmao, that's your response? You can't refute what I said so you start personal insults? Nope, I am very familiar with the Fed, inside and out as they are my employer. Just because you read "The Creature from Jekyll Island" doesn't mean you are a subject expert. So please quit larping as a Finance bro and get to bed so you can wake up nice and early for your Northwestern Mutual sales job.

Like MuddyBrazos said, Powell is a practicing Catholic. Many "non-Jews" have led it? *** are you even saying? This is what happens when you get your conspiracies from Reddit. Not even Fuentes believes in that stupid *****

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Sure, name those without Jewish heritage? We're up to 1 - if even that.

Nah, you pretending that Jews don't heavily lead Finance tells me you are making up stories - or have a vested interest in misleading people. I've been around financiers along with hedge funds, and nobody pretends that Jews aren't heavily over-represented at the leadership and controlling levels. Why are you saying otherwise when you know it to be true? Nobody talks about it exactly, but it's known.

As for the creature from Jekyll Island, it may be sensationalized, but has truth that you won't be able to dispute.

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I started from the beginning and stopped after four:

Charles Hamlin- Irish, most likely Catholic
William PG Harding- Not sure on the heritage but practicing Christian
Daniel Crissinger- German
Roy Young- Irish

Jews are prevalent in banking but that doesn't mean they control everything. I've met many CEOs, Presidents, and CFOs across the country. The majority were Anglo Saxons.

Some big names: Jamie Dimon (JPM) is Greek. Brian Moynihan (BoA) Irish Catholic, Charles Schwab was Roman Catholic, Jane Fraser (Citi) is English and Christian

I will be the first to criticize AIPAC, Israel, and the usual suspects but I wont engage in every conspiracy theory under the sun.

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I will carry that burden for you brother...

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Mothra said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Thomas Massie has the highest lifetime career score on the Freedom Index...
A 99!
The Freedom Index measures voting records against the Constitution...
And the GOP did everything to get rid of him..

Really think about that..

— Anti NWO 🇺🇸🇮🇹🇺🇸 (@Anti__NWO) May 20, 2026

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The Jew blame game, and the Epstein conspiracy nothing burger doomed him.

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